BALTIC STATES | How Did They Win Back Independence?

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On 17 September 1991, the three Baltic Republics - Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania - joined the United Nations. It marked the end of a long battle for statehood. However, their independence didn't mark the creation of three new countries. Instead, it amounted to a process of regained independence. All three had in fact previously been sovereign states.
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There was a time when the conquest of a country would almost certainly mean the end of its existence as a sovereign state. However, modern international law no longer accepts invasion and occupation as a legitimate cause of state extinction or state death. While the territory may no longer be able to exercise effective or independent governance, it nevertheless continues to exist as state - even if nominally. Perhaps the clearest example of this in International Relations was the case of the three Baltic Republics - Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. Having become independent states after the First World War, they were occupied and annexed by the Soviet Union during the Second World War. However, this was never recognised by the United States and many other countries. But it wasn't until the USSR began to collapse that they were able to reclaim their statehood - a process that would eventually lead not only to their regained statehood, but the independence of 12 other countries.
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0:33 Conquest, Occupation and State Extinction
1:33 Baltic Republics: Geography and Demographics
2:40 History of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania
4:54 The Soviet Occupation of the Baltic Republics
7:39 The Independence of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania
10:39 The Baltic Republics and Regained Independence
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@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

The Baltic Republic are a fascinating case study in International Relations. There aren't many other similar examples. But it has set in place an important principle in international law. Of course, their independence threw up some important questions on minority rights for the Russian communities in the three countries. I hope to come back to this in a future video.

@mergen9802 2 жыл бұрын

Do you think Manchuria (Manchukuo) can one day regain its independence? Hope to see an episode on Manchuria

@willieteb7993 2 жыл бұрын

You should revisit Southern Cameroons aka Ambazonia crisis. Paul Biya of Cameroon will not win the war.

@FOLIPE 2 жыл бұрын

@@eksiarvamus They were not there illegally, and most of the ones there now were born there.

@MazzaEliLi7406 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. What significance would this have for Scottish, Irish & Welsh independence?

@Rblock777 Жыл бұрын

You should watch a movie named The Soviet Story its on youtube

@mfitzy100 2 жыл бұрын

We love the three amazing Baltic nations here in Ireland and have huge links with all three. They are to be cherished as free, democratic and independent nations integral to Europe.

@SiggiTh Жыл бұрын

Iceland, being the first country to recognize Lithuania's independence - the first recognition for a Baltic State - is, and has always been, a source of immense pride for the Icelandic people. Deemed "reckless" and "impulsive", for a nation of 250.000 people, by most of Iceland's allies and encouraged to "fall in line" by US officials - At least Iceland did something. What effect that impulsive behavior had on the Baltic States battle is of course debatable. What isn't debatable is our pride!

@vytautassulcas6494 Жыл бұрын

Lithuanians are very thankful for that. Visit Lithuania, an Iceland street in old town of Vilnius ;)

@tomasvaicius6355 Жыл бұрын

and we dont forget that. thank you Iceland

@didzisstalidzans5232 Жыл бұрын

Thanks from Latvia too, Iceland! 😉

@rupsikas1950 Жыл бұрын

It is a bit unfair to say that Iceland "was the first country to recognize them" since some countries like the US hadn't seized to recognize us throughout the Cold War.

@didzisstalidzans5232 Жыл бұрын

@@rupsikas1950 Sure, US role in Baltics indepentence has plaid mayor role then and still does now. I can be thankfull for that as well, and cross fingers for democratic stability in US and West over all.

@piiluja 11 ай бұрын

Hi, as Estonian who was born in Soviet Union and participated in Singing Revolution, I think this is exceptionally good overview of what happened.

@edgardale4501 Жыл бұрын

I’m very proud of my Latvian heritage. Both my parents were refugee children. They met as teenagers in NYC and made sure that my sister and I participated in Latvian culture, including enduring an extra day of going to Saturday Latvian school when I really wanted to watch the Jetsons on TV. But now I am so grateful that they gave me the gift of knowing the Latvian language and I can visit there and communicate fluently; although everyone I talk to in Latvian can tell I speak with an American accent!

@raivorudus1070 Жыл бұрын

Vai zini parunu par Daliņa kājām?

@edgardale4501 Жыл бұрын

@@raivorudus1070 Nezinu. Tikai zinu par "Dāliņ' soļo!"

@raivorudus1070 Жыл бұрын

@@edgardale4501 Tas pats ir :)

@MV-hx6jr Ай бұрын

Braliukai Latviai , much love from Lithuania

@theconqueringram5295 2 жыл бұрын

The size of a country doesn't always matter. While huge countries generally play a huge role in international affairs, sometimes smaller states can play an equally significant role. The Baltic States are an example. Reclaiming their independence at the end of the 20th century is a testament that now a state cannot forcibly annex another.

@FOLIPE 2 жыл бұрын

Unless the countries that annexed them remain strong

@thedarkdragon1437 2 жыл бұрын

we are used to revolting. we've been occupied for centuries. by that point, russia made the mistake trying to make us part of them. didn't work out too well, and russian people are still very much hated in our sociaty in some parts of the country. and vice versa.

@hasdagger1916 2 жыл бұрын

@@thedarkdragon1437 Some parts of our country? No. EVERYWHERE we hate them. They are not welcome. And even if they live here its only acceptable if they learn our language. Otherwise GET OUT.

@user-cx9nc4pj8w Жыл бұрын

@@FOLIPE so they're fine

@Edzhjus Жыл бұрын

+1 countryballs Lithuania independence

@johnmueter378 Жыл бұрын

I asked my Latvian aunt how the country went about re-establishing itself. She said: Latvia declared 50 years of illegal occupation and re-instated the constitution it had before the Russian invasion. She also said: we are grateful to the Russians for liberating us from the Nazis, but no one invited them to stay for 50 years!

@mawuenakodzo2419 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed "Conquest cannot lead to the end of a state." Freedom is priceless

@anuvisraa5786 Жыл бұрын

say that to livia or siria

@bobapbob5812 9 ай бұрын

Ask the city fathers of Carthage.

@ephraimbrener9143 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so very much. I was born in Soviet Estonia and witnessed its transition to a regained independence before leaving for Israel. My heart is with Estonia and I have friends there. It's an amazing country and I highly recommend visiting it.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Ephraim. I'd wanted to do this video for ages. Fortunately, I have in fact had the chance to visit Estonia. It was absolutely lovely. I'd certainly agree that it is really worth a visit. I was in Tartu, which has an excellent university. In fact, I have a long-term collaboration with a professor there. I actually landed in Riga and then caught a bus up there, which was a truly wonderful journey. There was one specific spot on the journey that I will never forget. Truly magical, in the very real sense of the word.

@IAmGlutton4Life 2 жыл бұрын

What made you leave for Israel

@ephraimbrener9143 2 жыл бұрын

I was a minor then , so I left with my family. But regardless, it was a time of strong ethnic awakening amongst Estonians, and others of the USSR. Jews were affected as well - feeling belonging to Israel and disappointment of growing antisemitism.

@IAmGlutton4Life 2 жыл бұрын

@@ephraimbrener9143 well you rarely hear about the Jewish community of Estonia and Latvia considering it's so small

@augustkasemaa3290 Жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay I'm watching the video a day before our independence day. Greetings from Tartu, hope to see you here sometime!

@MartintheMetalhead 2 жыл бұрын

I had the joy of travelling to all 3 Baltic nations in Nov 2016. I learned a lot of history in the space of a week, visiting all 3 capitals.

@bowlampar Жыл бұрын

Trying to reclaim your independence and free yourself from under the shadow of a big bully is no doubt very tough, but the sense of jubilation and joy one felt from a fully independent status is overwhelming and well worth.🤗

@siasurveillancevan8112 Жыл бұрын

We went from one union to another union. The end is the same: bring in millions of immigrants an brainwash people. This time brainwash is LGBT

@GeographyWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video! I love the Baltic states having visited all 3 of them. Their story made me think about the fact that a country doesn't always have to have a single independence date. A few years ago, the Baltic States celebrated 100 years of independence and now they're celebrating 30 years of achieving it again. Both events deserve to be recognised as the countries gaining independence. Its similar with other countries such as Ireland which went from Easter Rising to the first Dáil to the Free State, a new constitution and finally a Republic. All could be argued as the date of independence when in reality, answering a single date is misleading when all are significant. Keep up the great work!

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much GW. You are absolutely right. And I really do want to take a look at Ireland at some point, as you know. It has such an interesting history. A bit like Australia, Canada, etc. it is hard to pin down exactly what moment it really gained full independence. I hope all is well with you.

@nabilalhami1681 2 жыл бұрын

After loads of Balkan videos, we are now getting a video about Baltic countries. Quite an underrated place.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nabil. You are absolutely right. The Baltics don't get enough attention. I hope to do more on them. There are some interesting other aspects to look at.

@rigrag7876 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Would very much look forward to that. As Nabil said it's underrated, and as a Brit, I think it's possibly the one region of Europe whose history we underappreciate the most. Excellent video as usual James :)

@aureaphilos 10 ай бұрын

This episode struck a memory for me, for I was listening toRadio Vilnius on my shortwave radio, back in February 1991, when the Soviets sent their tanks into that city. I remember the announcer stating that tanks could be seen from the broadcast house, and that they would stay on the air as long as possible. I just pulled out my old QSL verification card: Radio Vilnius, 18 Feb 1991, at 23h00 UTC, on 7400 kHz frequency.

@karkeris 2 жыл бұрын

As someone whos been watching you for over a year, I just want to thank you for this video, because I'm from Lithuania.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. And warmest congratulations on the 30th anniversary of your regained independence. It is a wonderful story. Unfortunately, I’ve never been to Lithuania. (I’ve been to Latvia and Estonia.) I would love to go one day. In the meantime, thanks for the support for the channel. I really appreciate it! Best wishes from London.

@karkeris 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Thank you for everything. And when times will be better i hope you will visit Lithuania because there a lot of interesting places to see.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again. I really do hope I will be able to visit one day.

@tomtex9664 Жыл бұрын

When you said Estonia was one of the last countries to convert to Christianity you might've wanted to mention that Lithuania was THE last to do so.

@hullmees666 Жыл бұрын

i think it was mentioned in estonia's case to provide one possible reason why christianity is alien to us while lithuania doesn't have that relationship with christianity (and tbf lithuania adopted it voluntarily while estonians were forced).

@Arissef Жыл бұрын

@@hullmees666 As far as I know ordinary Lithuanians resisted the adoption and held on to their pagan practices long after the official conversion. Which is why, indeed, both in theory and practice, Lithuania was the last country in Europe to convert to Christianity.

@bt4670 Жыл бұрын

@@Arissef Yes, we still have some pagan holidays.

@valdasnetavo8746 Жыл бұрын

@@bt4670 We have a lot of pagan traditions and events it also, depends on region.

@duesen756 Жыл бұрын

@Whatever ... same in Latvia. While we weren't our own state by that time, Christianity was forced upon us. Some pagan leaders converted to get out of the Teutons radar of conquest, but in secret most of them still followed the pagan faith.

@tnorthrup1986 2 жыл бұрын

In terms of cultural survival, the Baltic states and Poland are fascinating case studies. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was for a time the most powerful state in Europe, given the weird state of play in Western Europe before the Enlightenment. but over time as the state and its successors declined, and the nations were divvied up again and again by other powers, somehow they maintained a real, concrete sense of themselves as peoples. The more I read the less I'm convinced this is unique, but it was reading about this region of the world that first got me broadly into history in late Elementary school. I'm glad any time I can see this discussed in a holistic way.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tim. It is amazing to think that Lithuania was once such a large entity. Sadly, they really don't get enough attention, and yet their history is so fascinating. I had the really good fortune to go to Latvia and Estonia a few years ago. They really are lovely. I caught Estonia in late-May, when the weather was absolutely beautiful. There is something truly special about them.

@uzstiklo7141 Жыл бұрын

Yes, you're absolutely right that the Commonwealth was powerful but Lithuania was doing quite well for itself before that time: say, in the 15th century, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania was the largest state in Europe. The way it became the largest one and the international relations Vytautas the Great fostered were quite intriguing though:) If you asked Poles to name the 'glory days' of their state, they'd probably go for the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth but we Lithuanians would mostly pick the times of the Grand Duchy:) Just because:)))))))) When it comes down to the Soviet period, most Lithuanians did not identify with the occupiers. We saw ourselves as Lithuanians -- it's the others outside the USSR that saw us as some sort of a consolidated entity of Soviets (much like proputin Russians see 'the West' now -- 'they're all the same':). Yes, there was some confusion when we heard certain propaganda things at school but we heard completely different stories at home. And you didn't need to go far having so many family members tortured, killed, and exiled by the Soviets (oops, the liberators). I still remember the first time my grandmother showed me the real flag of Lithuania which she's hidden for long years. It was wow:) We've always felt very strongly about our language, you know one of the oldest ones in the world:). Having said that, I don't think it was something unique. It just makes sense for us to be free -- we know how to do it:)))

@vytautassulcas6494 Жыл бұрын

@@uzstiklo7141 regarding language, Lithuanian isnt oldest, it is most ancient, most archaic

@nikospapageorgiou2345 Жыл бұрын

Not unique at all. There are many examples of stateless nations, less of nations that had and reachieved nationhood. In Europe you can look up for example the 400 year gap between the end of the Byzantine Empire and the reestablishment of a Greek state at 1821.

@VanaeCavae 2 жыл бұрын

The story of the reemergence of the Baltic states amid the dissolution of the Soviet Union has always been of interest to me.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Me too. They don't get much attention, but their history is fascinating.

@Briedys101 9 ай бұрын

There is one truth - you can't choose the neibhors. But we will do everything to stay independent and live by our selfs.

@mariusrutkaus Жыл бұрын

I'm really grateful for your video. I believe it's really important to have this clear and impartial view of history. As a lithuanian I thank you. Cheers!

@JamesKerLindsay Жыл бұрын

Thank you. It is an incredible story. And actually rather crucial for understanding modern international law in cases of invasion and occupation.

@ScienceMagicBoi Жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this! I'm Latvian-American, and I struggle to explain our history succinctly, so a video like yours that explains this topic so well and in such an accessible format is great! Will definitely be showing this to people in the future.

@kashiiyer5914 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic insight, James. Big fan of your videos ! I met a Lithuanian 10 yrs back and he mentioned he was born on the day of independence of Lithuania. Little did I know then that what he meant was Lithuania's reclaimed independence !

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much. :-) The Baltic Republics really are a fascinating group of countries with a history that is far more interesting than most people realise. The fact that Lithuania was once the largest state in Europe is pretty amazing.

@Asamations 2 жыл бұрын

Another excellent video James. I have always loved the Baltic States. I have actually been to all of them. And hope to go again. Keep up the great work. I think it's very disgraceful that the massive Soviet Union would take over the small Baltic states like the way they did and so it's great that you highlighted that most countries didn't recognize this forced takeover.

@FOLIPE 2 жыл бұрын

Retake, right? I mean they were made independent after WW1 due to the harsh peace terms imposed by the Germans.

@belstar1128 2 жыл бұрын

Small countries getting independence from a nuclear super power very impressive and inspiring.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

I completely agree!

@FredoRockwell 2 жыл бұрын

This is one of my favorite moments in recent history, but if never thought of it in terms of the precedent it set for conquest being an illegitimate way to change national borders. Thank you as always!

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Fredo. It really is an interesting story. This was a video I had wanted to do for a long time. Many years ago I went to the Museum of the Occupation in Riga and was really struck by the letter from George Bush reaffirming their independence. okupacijasmuzejs.lv/en/

@r.r8314 2 жыл бұрын

And how important this video is today!! Thank you

@evimba Жыл бұрын

Thank you James for such a precise and informational video! I am Latvian and I do remember barricades, shootings and the huge tension at end of the sommer 1991. I was 7 years old at the time and I thought we are all going to die when Russians tried to took back the power. My parents listened radio news and we were all very, very frightened by what happened. Luckily they didn't gain nothing!

@Zendo909 2 жыл бұрын

In 1939, Lithuania was at first assigned to Germany, unlike Latvia and Estonia. That didn't pan out though.

@wessexexplorer Жыл бұрын

These videos have a great format: setting out the basic facts and history of the countries being discussed in a succinct way which helps put the rest of the commentary into context.

@JamesKerLindsay Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Andrew. I really appreciate it. I have always liked to think that it is helpful to put current events in a wider historical and political context, rather than just jumping in.

@MrGumball_ 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the lecture, sensei!

@BK-uf6qr 2 жыл бұрын

Great job James. So economically informative!

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@leandrojazz529 11 ай бұрын

Excellent video, it is clear that the older the facts you are talking about, the more impartial your story seems.

@paulbc Жыл бұрын

Thx very much. After searching for a good video talking about the subject I found this. We are facing another war in Europe and in a few words you teach ne so much. Thanks again.

@peterkops6431 Жыл бұрын

This one is really informative. In Australia the coverage of these mechanisms was extremely limited.

@birgitnazarian8767 2 жыл бұрын

Very good. I have traveled to each one of these countries. Using your video to educate my friends and family about how democracy can win.

@siasurveillancevan8112 Жыл бұрын

To hell with democracy. I want Kārlis Ulmanis back! To hell with the EU.

@hammanbanjiram1611 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, sir!

@didzisstalidzans5232 Жыл бұрын

Top quality content 👍🏻

@dgoncalves81 2 жыл бұрын

It would be fascinating to see you talk about Finland's history of independence and the context of early independence movements 🇫🇮

@KristapsJankovskis Жыл бұрын

Im from Latvia... we are small, but strong!

@JamesKerLindsay Жыл бұрын

Indeed! A stunningly beautiful country too. I was fortunate to travel from Riga to Tartu in neighbouring Estonia about ten years ago. It was amazing.

@joelzimco5778 2 жыл бұрын

I feel well educated by this. Nice job.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@fabulouscat3911 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I would love it if you made a video exactly like this but for the Caucasus states!

@timsav 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! South Caucasus is a very interesting theme.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the excellent suggestion. I have touched a bit on their history in a couple of videos. But I should really take a more focused look.

@farhanhyder6378 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video

@anirudhparthasarathy3387 2 жыл бұрын

Always loved visiting the Baltic states (have not visited the southernmost state). It is interesting to note that conquest is no longer seen as legitimate means to incorporate an entire state into another state - and even the respective states not recognising Soviet rule, wherein they still celebrate their national days referencing dates in early 20th century rather than dates post collapse of Soviet Union. However, is conquest still seen as legitimate when it comes to incorporating portions of territory of a larger country? Taking another Soviet example, where South Sakhalin was annexed after the Second World War - where a majority of the population were Japanese, was not disputed.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Anirudh. Like you, I've been to Latvia and Estonia, but not to Lithuania. I would love to go at some point. Great question. The invasion and occupation of parts of territory is not accepted either. The principle of the territorial integrity of states is a key tenet of the UN Charter. However, the reality is of course slightly different. Annexation of territory is becoming a real concern in a number of cases - most notably Russia and Crime, but also Israel and the Palestinian territories. The invasion and annexation of entire states is, of course, relatively rare. Perhaps the most obvious recent example was Iraq's attempt to annexe Kuwait in 1990, which led to the First Gulf War.

@asirnewazkhan4172 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay very interesting. Could you perhaps do a video on this topic of annexation and occupation. Not just in the case of Israel and Russia but also perhaps; Turkish occupation of Northern Syria, Yemen crisis with Saudi Arabia. Perhaps even the issue of Unification such as Yemen and Germany in the 90s, potential of Korea or even Maldova and Romania. Just an idea

@anirudhparthasarathy3387 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay good morning! Annexation is indeed becoming an issue and in this sense and if two members of UN view the territorial integrity of a particular member differently, it causes issues like Russia and Crimea (speaking of UN, incidentally for one of my high school MUNs, I was the delegate of Latvia, my first time researching deep about the country). @Asir Newaz Khan - very interesting, yes. That many countries exercise de facto control over territories without actually claiming them like Turkey in Northern Syria.

@Ray67456 2 жыл бұрын

Happy I found your videos their great 👍

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! And a very warm welcome to the channel. :-)

@MazzaEliLi7406 Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@peterkops6431 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Prof 👍🏻👍🏻

@JamesKerLindsay Жыл бұрын

Thanks, as always, Peter.

@soundmind9772 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video on self-determination!

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! It is such an interesting and important case. It also explains why they were rather different from the other Soviet Republics.

@soundmind9772 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Definitely different because those annexed territories belonged to already recognized sovereign States that retained their rights to later liberate those annexed areas by exercising their respective rights of self-determination, irrespective of usurpation of government, displacement of sovereignty, or whether the situation was colonial or otherwise, just like Hong Kong, Macao, Korea, Gibraltar, Morocco, Ceuta, Melilla, Somaliland, Congo Free State, Orange Free State, Hyderabad, the Hawaiian Islands, Lew Chew, and perhaps even Crimea if you consider it as part of Russia.

@Superlottery0913 2 жыл бұрын

the video reminder me the story of Sikkim, can you do a video of the possibility of the territory. Thanks and regards

@gagamba9198 Жыл бұрын

@7:42 re USSR sending in the military. There's an aspect here that is unmentioned but very important. Leading up to the invasion more and more young men were refusing to be called up for conscription. In Lithuania it was up to 90%. Officers who saw the writing on the wall began to organise to oppose the use of the army against the people to prop up the USSR. When the troops in Lithuania were ordered out of garrison to suppress the independence movement by seizing gov't buildings and the TV tower many refused. Officers disappeared, refusing to report for duty. The military was fracturing over the Baltics. This wasn't fighting an external enemy. Troops from outside Lithuania had to be brought in. The massacre of people caused revulsion amongst many in the military - active duty, reservists, and veterans. Veterans and reservists smashed their medals and impaled their military IDs in fences outside the garrisons and at the army barricades. This was mutiny. Keep in mind the population of the Baltic states was quite small. What if the same happened amongst Ukrainian and Belarusian troops, who comprised a much larger percentage of the military? The two republics also had nuclear weapons. The ICBMs were pretty well under the command and control of the Kremlin, but the same couldn't be said of nuclear bombs and battlefield tactical nukes. The military was what was keeping the USSR together, and it fracturing revealed the bonds to maintain the USSR no longer existed.

@erinbeagrie1596 2 жыл бұрын

studying cees these vids are really helpful thanks

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. So glad they are useful!

@pynzlyngdohnonglait6698 9 ай бұрын

The Baltic countries include Estonia,Latvia and Lithuania wanted break away from the Soviet Union and they gained independence to pursue their own paths...They joined NATO and their relationship with Russia is frosty...

@andrewsarantakes639 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@bobapbob5812 9 ай бұрын

The US never formally recognized the seizure of territories from Finland.

@JamesKerLindsay 9 ай бұрын

Good point. This is a topic I’ve wanted to cover for ages.

@bobapbob5812 9 ай бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Interesting that George Bush Sr, the one legally elected, met in Kiyev asking the Ukrainians not to separate from the USSR the day before they did.

@johnjackson9003 2 жыл бұрын

You should cover the Ethiopian Tigray conflict and the possible state collapse that might happen

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, John. I’ve done about three or four on Tigray. You can find them in my Africa Playlist or by scrolling through the videos. I hope to return to it soon. There are so many important angles to it.

@Linciuga Жыл бұрын

Maybe we are small but we are strong greetings from Lithuania Atmostas Baltija, atmostas Baltija Lietuva, Latvija, Igaunija! Bunda jau Baltija, bunda jau Baltija Lietuva, Latvija, Estija! Ärgake Baltimaad, ärgake Baltimaad Leedumaa, Lätimaa, Eestimaa!

@marcocolo7151 2 жыл бұрын

This case of state extinction is very interesting

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Marco. It is a really fascinating situation. I had wanted to do this video for ages. I remember going to the Museum of the Occupation in Riga a number of years ago. I was struck by the copy of President Bush’s letter to them reaffirming their independence. It really is a remarkable document. By the way, here is the link to the Museum okupacijasmuzejs.lv/en/

@rogerdarthwell5393 2 жыл бұрын

I expected you to make a video on this, given the anniversary

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Roger. I had planned to do it last week, but went with the Montenegro video instead. But this was actually a video that I had wanted to do for ages. I went to the Museum of the Occupation in Riga many years ago and was really struck by the letter from President Bush they had put on display reaffirming their regained independence. okupacijasmuzejs.lv/en/

@rogerdarthwell5393 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Thank you very much, to be fair, I think it's better that you released it today, because it's a day after the anniversary, and I personally think it's better

@readisgooddewaterkant7890 2 жыл бұрын

My recomendation. You should try do topics that no youtuber has done a video about

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'd make a couple of points. First, I realise that many topics have been done, but I try to take a different perspective on things and put them in a wider International Relations context. Also, I don't want to be another current affairs channel just chasing after news. There are too many of those, many of rather poor quality. I certainly cover newsworthy topics, but I like to think that I can also be a useful - and trusted - reference source on many historical issues.

@readisgooddewaterkant7890 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay i mean more like historical things as. Sweden norway union or the coup of 1969

@spdeweese 2 жыл бұрын

James, Your presentations are both timely and most interesting. One area that gets little attention in eastern Europe is Kaliningrad. Prussia has both an interesting history and an important one in both Europe and Germany. Going forward it will be interesting to see if this area emerges once again as an independent state. While most if not all of the Germans have been driven out post WWIi, it would be worth reviewing its current important role to Russia and its historical place in European history and its curious role as a Russian outpost in Eastern Europe. I thought you might agree. Regards…

@henrikmanitski1061 10 ай бұрын

The issue is that the ENTIRE population there has come from elsewhere (other parts of Russia) and they are essentially rootless. Prussia is for them only a historical curiosity and they do not value its cultural heritage, since it is foreign to them.

@moderatemapper9440 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I noticed that since January there has been fighting in Biafra in Nigeria. Ambazonia in Cameroon AND IPOB in Nigeria recently allied as well

@MrKuti89 Жыл бұрын

Yep as an Estonian we are none religious and thank god

@siasurveillancevan8112 Жыл бұрын

god?

@minaolenella869 11 ай бұрын

@@siasurveillancevan8112 Taara

@MrKuti89 9 ай бұрын

@@siasurveillancevan8112tänu paganale

@butterflies655 2 ай бұрын

I met a lot of christian Estonians.

@MrKuti89 2 ай бұрын

@@butterflies655 jep...and I was in church today saying goodbye to a dear neighbour...was respectful while thinking did god make this man what he was while the pastor waxed on on about Jebus. Or just a good person...with or without

@luxembourgishempire2826 2 жыл бұрын

I have only ever been to Estonian's capital when I went to Helsinki and we took a ferry there. It sure is a beautiful country Estonia. Nice video though James. I never really knew much about the Baltic States. And so it was interesting seeing you cover them.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree! I absolutely loved Estonia (and Latvia) when I went a few years ago. There was something really magical about them.

@marcomartinez1843 2 жыл бұрын

I noticed that this video is clearer than the rest of your videos. Did you have a new camera?

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Marco. I hoped someone might notice. :-) Yes, I upgraded my camera. I used to use the Canon M50. It is great to start with, and many people on KZfaq begin with it, but I was becoming more and more frustrated with its limitations. Instead, I went for a dedicated video camera: the Canon XA40. By the way, was the sound OK on this video. I am trying to work on that.

@ukilectric 2 жыл бұрын

Hey I just came to your latest video to inform you that McDonald's is useing your (old) intro music for their employment ad on KZfaq. 😂

@Hoheit34 2 жыл бұрын

This was an informative summary of the history and status of the Baltic states. I enjoyed listening to your commentary as usual. It is too bad that the Chechen, Ingush, Tuvan and Tatar Republics, all independent at one time in the past or seeking independence, even today, were not able to follow the Baltic example at the time of the breakup of the Soviet Union. They would have benefitted greatly also upon regaining their freedoms.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Jay. Someone else mentioned taking a look at the Caucasus as well. I really should try to get round to doing it. It is such a fascinating and complex picture. This particular video was one I had wanted to make for a while. I went to Latvia and Estonia a few years ago and was really taken by them. But what really stood out was my trip to the Museum of the Occupation, in Riga. It is fascinating. But there was a letter from President Bush reaffirming their statehood. It really struck me as a fascinating document. Most people just probably thought of it as a nice item on display, but I remember thinking of the profound significance of this letter, not just for Latvia but for wider the wider international system. In any case, the museum is an absolute must visit for any going to Latvia. okupacijasmuzejs.lv/en/

@FOLIPE 2 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, so many independent states in the past, like Bavaria and Pomerania and Wales and Occitania are not independent anymore.

@anuvisraa5786 Жыл бұрын

@@FOLIPE and others are colonies like Puerto Rico and Guan

@omarmohamed6701 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting.

@ShubhamMishrabro 2 жыл бұрын

A video on separation of Czechoslovakia would be great. As it happened peacefully unlike other 90s revolution affected countries

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. This is on my to do list. Two of my closest friends are Czech and Slovak. I remember that I actually had them over for lunch on the anniversary of the Velvet Divorce (quite by accident). They both found that very amusing. :-) I also find it really interesting that they also get on so well. Many people who know both countries often wonder why they split!

@ShubhamMishrabro 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay yeah both countries population are not hostile towards each other which is very nice. Hope more people get to know about these great countries

@macariomatira3234 2 жыл бұрын

We Wish to Feature about the Independence of Kazakhstan please!!!!

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I hope to do a video on the final dissolution of the Soviet Union later on. The 30th anniversary is coming up.

@leoflorida95 2 жыл бұрын

Hi James, do you have videos talking about the Khmer Rouge and the vietnamese ocupation of Cambodia?

@Fieldsetters Ай бұрын

I was born in Estonia in 1934 and escaped to the west 1n 1938 and published a book "The Estonian Spy "on Amazon in June 2023.

@yokeloonw 2 жыл бұрын

We must respect the resolve of those in these Baltic States.

@seneca983 Жыл бұрын

2:07 Wow, I didn't expect to see this channel use a page from a webcomic (Stand Still, Stay Silent).

@rrajan5476 2 жыл бұрын

Can you pls make a video on the fate of Catalunyan independence ?

@bobapbob5812 9 ай бұрын

The musical and artistic folk festivals in the Baltic countries is very much like the Welsh eisteddfod.

@NikolaHD 2 жыл бұрын

Great video that lead me to think if we reverse think (ocupation cannot lead to dissolution of a state), we'll see some examples of countries that emerged from another country because of politics while culture, language and history are the same.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Nikola. This is a really interesting point. I find the idea of kin states fascinating. Two states that should be one, but by dint of history have emerged as separate countries: Greece and Cyprus, Serbia and Montenegro, Romania and Moldova, etc. I should perhaps try to do more on this.

@mouniash 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Maybe some Arab states as well..

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

@@mouniash Thanks. Indeed. Great point!

@hkmmos659 Жыл бұрын

❤ forgot mention of Uffe Elleman Jensen, who ensured NATO membership of the Baltics.

@dd-oe8zv 6 ай бұрын

As a Lithuanian this is very accurate video, I couldn't add much to this. Thank you for informing english speaking world about our history

@JamesKerLindsay 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. It is an incredible story. By the way, I really hope to go to Lithuania at some point. It is one of only two EU members I have never been to (along with Malta).

@user-cs4fg7bh4r Жыл бұрын

Im lithuanian and i do feel as a small nation we are quite tough 💪💪💪

@JamesKerLindsay Жыл бұрын

Indeed! :-)

@Armadeus 2 жыл бұрын

i love the baltic countries, and speaking of the baltics, could kaliningrad become independent one day? and what would have to be done by the international community to make it so?

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Me too. I have been fortunate enough to have been to Latvia and Estonia, though sadly not Lithuania. Great suggestion on Kaliningrad. I will certainly give it some thought.

@Rblock777 Жыл бұрын

10:20 thats exactly the day I was born in Latvia 17.09.1991

@JamesKerLindsay Жыл бұрын

What a day to be born!

@Joseph-qd9ew 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video James. How could such a peaceful process not only work but result in the collapse the parent country? Many countries would have chosen war if a similar situation arose, why didn’t the USSR?

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Great question! That is one of the really interesting conundrums of modern history. I think it came down to a number of factors. I didn't cover it, but the failed coup in August 1991 certainly played a part. I will try to come back to this in another video.

@Joseph-qd9ew 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay I’ve heard about the coup but I don’t know much, I would love a video discussing these questions!

@RainmakerLTU Жыл бұрын

Reclaiming independence of Baltic States was not a direct reason for USSR to collapse. The USSR itself could not go on with it's plan economics, it needed the capitalism, supply and demand. Because it could not keep planning 5 years how the economy will go or what they gonna manufacture or invest in this time. They needed more flexible system. Along with that one-party politics line was changing into many parties, democracy, freedom of speech started to rise. Also another war after the recently ended Afghanistan war would be looking bad in the eyes of the rest of the world, again because of crumbling iron curtain when is impossible to hide anything.

@KrK-EST Жыл бұрын

Estonians were preparing for several years underground and in politics in top levels. It did not spread but were forced to come out a bit early to not get cought later. Generally correct but at some points some wordings sugest wrong things. Estonia(ERR the public broadcasting network) has detailed documentaries (video, audio and images) and info about planning and executing it by the main people(telling the stories) who organized the revolt and everything related. Anyone who would want to do a video about Estonia regaining the indepencence should watch them.

@pavlelazarevic5042 2 жыл бұрын

I have contravertial one. I just watched this. And then went back to your older videos and watched one about hawaii. So here is my question? Isn't the thing that Russians did to Baltics same as the thing that USA did to Hawaii? Or, as you mentioned at the end of your video on Hawaii, Puerto Rico? With only difference being that USA managed to supress native population and successfully annex (*ahm* conquer *ahm*) other country, while Russia simply failed. What are your opinions on that? I know, this may be contraversial one, but I think it is a good question for discussion

@user-cf3vz9nd4k 2 жыл бұрын

Демократия это не повод для дискуссии, а вещать он будет только то, что оплачено...

@pavlelazarevic5042 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-cf3vz9nd4k Мислим да ово није пропагандни канал и да он заиста поставља ствари које га занимају. Такође, рекао бих да је поприлично објективан у својим видеима. Као пример узећу његове клипове о Косову, где заиста није заузео ни једну страну. Ипак, интересује ме шта ће рећи на ово моје питање

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Pavle. You are absolutely right. There is no escaping the fact that the United States annexed Hawaii. It was a shameful act. And Puerto Rico, Guam, etc. are just colonies by another name. But it is also worth noting that Russia also conquered and annexed a lot of territory. It wouldn't be the huge size it is today if it hadn't! And it too has managed to suppress a lot of native movements. What this really shows is that there are many different relationships that states can have with conquered territory. In some cases, it becomes an integral part of the state - fully assimilated and integrated. In other cases, there is a looser relationship, that might become tighter with time, or else can lead to the eventual independence of the territory in question. It is a fascinating question. But certainly the United States has had its own history of conquest and colonialism - despite what many may think. (But, to be fair, it has done a better job acknowledging it than many other countries. At least it apologised to Hawaiians. It can't fix the past, but it does show understanding for how it hurt a people.)

@MadTamB 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Of course the descendants of the last queen of Hawaii could become the royal family of the whole US!

@anthonysimmons3281 2 жыл бұрын

@@MadTamB no, the Kardashians are the de-facto American royal family

@Mantvydas 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm... I'm from Lithuania, and I think the part why Russia changed its mind and agreed to recognize Baltic states in 1991 September, should have mentioned a failed August military coup in Moscow, which was the key in turning tables around.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I did wonder about putting it in, but it seemed unnecessary. The point still stood that by August 1991 the USSR had given up the fight. I will mention it in the follow up, which will look at the events after September leading up to the final collapse of the Soviet Union.

@Mantvydas 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay the thing is, during events in Lithuania on January 13, 1991, when Sovyet soldiers successfully occupied TV tower and TV studios of Lithuanian National TV, the collaborative pro-USSR programming stayed on TVs till the very aforementioned coup in Moscow. Only after the failed coup, the sovyet journalists couldn't do anything else, but pack their things and shamefully abandon TV tower and studios. Thanks to Yeltsin.

@darkoratic2339 2 жыл бұрын

@@Mantvydas Soviet Soldiers not Russian Soldiers, wasn't it like that that the RSFSR leadership and citizen weren't to happy about what the central government of the USSR tried in lithuania in 1991 and Russian citizens actually protested if I remember it correctly

@Mantvydas 2 жыл бұрын

@@darkoratic2339 thanks, you're right, I fixed Russian soldiers into Sovyet soldiers, they really were from across the union. And yes, to this day there are many supportive russians, that was my fast ignorant mistake.

@hullmees666 Жыл бұрын

@@darkoratic2339 yeah, i remember seeing stuff about yeltsin's supporters and people from baltics being very friendly. too bad how things ended up in the end between the countries.

@KrK-EST Жыл бұрын

Correct, RE-Gained

@koilyLAT 5 ай бұрын

I'm russian from Latvia, glad to have our own country called Latvia, we surely do have problems in Latvia. But I know that my kids will live in beauitiful and rich Latvia.

@subscribers151 2 жыл бұрын

Hi from Baltic states 🇪🇪🇱🇻🇱🇹👋

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Hello there!

@tommercer8595 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Sir Very informative. Would love to visit the Baltic States. I'm interested to hear from Lithuanians what their view is today of communism? Regards from Australia

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tom. I haven't been to Lithuania, but I have been to Latvia and Estonia and they are absolutely beautiful. I had the good fortune to take a 5-hour bus ride from Riga to Tartu a few years back and it was truly lovely. There was one spot on the journey that was utterly magical - in the true meaning of the word! And hopefully some Lithuanians might see this comment and answer your question. Given that anyone under 40 probably has not clear recollection of it, it would be interesting to hear what younger generations think of it having been told by their parents and grandparents.

@pppLT19 2 жыл бұрын

22 year old Lithuanian here. Our pride is pretty much built on the anti soviet resistence. Especially for younger generation. I had grown up in a family where my great granparent helped anti soviet partisans at the beggining of the occupation as most of them have been simply his friends from his and surrounding villages. What makes him pretty unique was that he had a photoaparat and has made some of the largest partisan picture collections in Lithuania, my grandpa was one of the creators of the newly established military unit in my town and worked at the border control at the time soviets still have not recognised us (border patrols were actually being killed by soviet special forces here in Lithuania) when my mum was 13 my grandpa took her to the parliament protection during January events, she saw the tanks. It is safe to say, that growing up i have not heard anything positive about USSR🤣. But it is the story of basically all young Lithuanians, our parents and grandparents like to brag about their participation in various forms of resistence or atleast the baltic way. Colloboration with occupants or family members having high positions during soviet times is somethin a young person would be ashamed of and would not talk about. Soviet symbolics are banned under the same laws as nazi ones. We have destroyed or taken to museums pretty much all soviet monuments, no Lenins here or smth like that. However to this day we have some divisions when it comes to artists, like last week we took a famous poets statue out of one of the main squares in Vionius because he wrote pro soviet poems and there were people opposing that because he was still one of our best writers realistically. But this is not the division on interpretation of soviet history, but seperation of art from politics. I wrote a lot already, but if you see me and have questions ask me anything

@pppLT19 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay 22 year old Lithuanian here. Our pride is pretty much built on the anti soviet resistence. Especially for younger generation. I had grown up in a family where my great granparent helped anti soviet partisans at the beggining of the occupation as most of them have been simply his friends from his and surrounding villages. What makes him pretty unique was that he had a camera and made some of the largest partisan picture collections in Lithuania, my grandpa was one of the creators of the newly established military unit in my town and worked at the border control at the time when soviets still have not recognised us (border patrols were actually being killed by soviet special forces here in Lithuania) (another fun fact, you needed a recomendation from your local "sąjūdis" unit and a head priest in your church to join border control at the time), when my mum was 13 my grandpa took her to the parliament protection during January events, she saw the tanks. It is safe to say, that growing up i have not heard anything positive about USSR🤣. But it is the story of basically all young Lithuanians, our parents and grandparents like to brag about their participation in various forms of resistence or atleast the baltic way. Colloboration with occupants or family members having high positions during soviet times is somethin a young person would be ashamed of and would not talk about. Soviet symbolics are banned under the same laws as nazi ones. We have destroyed or taken to museums pretty much all the soviet monuments, no Lenins here or smth like that. However to this day we have some divisions when it comes to artists, like last week we took a famous poets statue out of one of the main squares in Vilnius because he wrote pro soviet poems and there were people opposing that because he was still one of our best writers realistically. But this is not the division on the interpretation of soviet history, but seperation of art from politics. I wrote a lot already, but if you see me and have questions ask me anything

@PijusONLINE Жыл бұрын

Good riddance is what we think. The communist party was recognised as a criminal enterprise, banned immediately upon regaining independence (at the hands of its former members) and the non-reformist-minded leaders were locked up for crimes against humanity and treason. That distinction is needed because the communist party was actually pro-independence, only a small minority within it attempted a counter coup. The hammer and sickle and the five pointed red star remain strictly prohibited from public display.

@vytautassulcas6494 Жыл бұрын

Thug Rose Namajunas has said before fighting Chinese fighter - "Better dead than red" (it isnt orifginal though). Her grandparent was a millitary officer of independent Lithuania. That's what we think about communism. Lithuania accepted Taiwan and made communistic China angree on us :D

@zhee666 Жыл бұрын

Lithuania once was biggest European country, stretching from Baltic to Black sea, leaving no chance to go on land from West to East Europe, without cutting it's territory. And also Lithuania was last country to convert from paganism to chrisrianity :)

@patrickscroggin1438 11 ай бұрын

During the whole time of Soviet occupation, there were 3 Baltic embassies staffed in Washington.

@markmh835 8 ай бұрын

Yes I am curious about that. Who appointed their ambassadors? Was there "governments in exile" as during WWII? What kind of day-to-day work did the embassies do?

@patrickscroggin1438 8 ай бұрын

@@markmh835 I‘m not sure, if you find out, let me know

@makeracistsafraidagain7608 2 жыл бұрын

Hi James, can you also make a video about the west African countries and why there been a lot of coups happening in west African countries.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Great suggestion! Let me look into it.

@makeracistsafraidagain7608 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay Thanks 🙏

@papapeethehunks 2 жыл бұрын

I wish Karelia also gained recognition when it became a Union Republic before being reinstated as an Autonomous Republic. And now another attempt to annexation, Belarus...🙄

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I actually want to do a video on Karelia at some point. It is such an interesting story.

@papapeethehunks 2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKerLindsay looking forward. 🙏

@markmh835 8 ай бұрын

I don't know how the Baltic states asserted their independence during the occupation. But i remember attending a Lithuanian Festival at the Lithuanian consulate in Chicago in rhe 1980s. And I always wondered who had appointed the consul-general. Did the Baltic states have "governments-in-exile" during the occipation?

@lolikususs 6 ай бұрын

yes

@napoleonbonaparte4396 2 ай бұрын

Professor James, you messed up with the time-line. Gorbachov declared "Glasnost and Perestroika" in March 1984. That was before the Chernobyl disaster. Georgia was the most aggressive for independence. Do you remember April 9, 1989 that Soviet forces crushed peaceful protestors? Georgian dissidents pushed hard for promoting independence for the republics. Afterward, Georgia had peaceful election, ousted the Communists and declared the independence in April. 9, 1991.

@seneca983 Жыл бұрын

9:15 Was Belarus more significant than Kazakhstan?

@AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen 2 жыл бұрын

👏🙂

@soundmind9772 2 жыл бұрын

10:39 "conquest cannot lead to the end of a state." If that's the case then what happened to Hyderabad State, which gained independence in 1947 only to be annexed a year later by India? Also, even when conquest was a legitimate method of acquiring territory, there are certain instances where a state can be extinguished in fact but that the identity of the state continues and retains the ability to be revived to continue precisely from the point that the state was suppressed and its sovereignty suspended. One example is where a neutral country is acquired by conquest or conquered during a war and the territory is later liberated. Another example is where all or a portion of a country offers no resistance to conquest and the territory is later liberated. A third example is in the case of a fake revolution and establishment of a puppet government and the territory is later liberated. A fourth example is when the conquered state is liberated from the conqueror by another state (i.e. a state already at war with the conqueror). In nearly every instance, foreign nations are obligated under international law to recognize territory acquired by conquest as a being part of the conqueror's territory while possession continues. It is only after liberation that the state can be seen to resume its legal personality in continuity with its former identity. Unlike a biological entity, a state under certain circumstances can be re-animated after death with all its former rights and obligations intact. Until the point of revival, an extinct state has only limited options, one of which is the ability to reconstitute a government in-exile and attempt to re-establish diplomatic relations with states that once recognized it, as well as establishing new diplomatic relations with other states. Note that the reconstituted government, even with recognition, is not technically a state until it again satisfies the criteria for statehood, which necessarily involves approximately the same population and territory in order to successfully establish continuity of state identity. If the reconstituted government attempts to assert statehood without first recapturing most of its ancient territory (not including its former colonies or dependencies, if any) and/or recapturing some of its ancient territory while issuing a public protest against the illegal occupation as to the remainder, the state will risk permanent extinction of its original identity and permanent loss of territory. Intervening states and non-state actors can facilitate restoration provided they remain in compliance with relevant humanitarian and international law, including the laws of war.

@deivydasjuonys6487 2 жыл бұрын

Greetings, professor. Nice video. I trully appreciated your on the Baltic States. Two interesting facts: Former LSSR leader First Secretary of the Lithuanian Communist Party Central Commitee Antanas Snieckus was the longest serving Communist Leader of the Baltic States:(1903-1974). Unlike his fellow Communist Leaders from other Baltic States: Estonia's Nikolai Karotamm (1901-1969), Latvia's Augusts Voss (1919-1994). Lithuanian partisan war lasted almost for a decade, thus being one of the longest partisan war in Europe: (1944-1953). And for the conclusion Russia still refuses to acknowledge illegitimacy of the Soviet occupation and annexation of the three Baltic States. Commenting that Estonia, Latvia,Lithuania willingly joined the USSR. In fact that is a big lie.

@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. It was a week later than I had originally planned, but coincided perfectly with the 30th anniversary of their membership of the United Nations. :-) Thanks so much for the point about Russia questioning their independence. I thought to go into this, but it really seemed irrelevant - and I didn't want to take away from the main positive story by adding this footnote. But I might come back to it in a future video. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33325842