Japan’s Only Pacific “Ally” - Phibun’s Thailand - WW2 Biography Special
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3 жыл бұрынThailand's prime minister and de-facto dictator Plaek Phibunsongkhram imported European fascism, nationalism and militarism to his country. But when Japan's threat to South-East Asia became imminent, Phibun didn't know what to do. His story is one of utter indecisiveness and opportunism.
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Hosted by: Indy Neidell
Written by: Joram Appel
Director: Astrid Deinhard
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@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
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@QuizmasterLaw 3 жыл бұрын
I was shocked when I saw Indy's shirt, because it looks all too similar to the uniform worn by inmates of a concentration camp. I am surprised no one else seemed to notice. I must be mistaken, right?
@SirWhiskersThe3rd 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry BUT Germany WAS socialist Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP National Socialist German Workers Party) NOT Fascist.
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
@Diamond Dino kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j65xgZCDtbC4mXk.html&t
@QuizmasterLaw 3 жыл бұрын
TIK versus WW2! Cage fight! two go in! one comes out! two go in! one comes out!
@SirWhiskersThe3rd 3 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo Well sir I tip my hat to you.
@lillyie 3 жыл бұрын
1940: Go Japan! 1945: I have never heard of this man in my entire life
@sidnyt 3 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert!!
@rmcl7583 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@alisonlaw8768 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@nad40 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@StrideRunner68 3 жыл бұрын
1946 The Germany bloodline 🇩🇪 King dies and America 🇺🇸 bloodline King 🤴 comes to power... So The Never Heard 👂 thing works ...
@jonbaxter2254 3 жыл бұрын
Thailand really avoided the worst of both sides of the war.
@davethompson3326 3 жыл бұрын
A game they had needed to play for a Century, with assorted nations
@jabbatheslutt3603 3 жыл бұрын
@Mickey Mouse volunteer engineers or colonial conscripts (conscripted by Britain). Subjecting oneself to western empire, warrants the most inventive forms of retaliation from the east.
@johnye4433 3 жыл бұрын
@Mickey Mouse no, tell her to stop or else go back to the Indian treatment
@ajsimo2677 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure really. Some 180,000 to 250,000 South Asian civilian labourers were forced to build Thai-Burma railway for the Japanese and 90,000 of them perished under the extremely harsh conditions (compared with 60,000 Allied POW labourers and 12,000 deaths). These slave labourers included Thai civilians. I don't know what proportion of the victims were Thai, but I wouldn't say Thailand entirely escaped some of the horrors of that war.
@ajsimo2677 3 жыл бұрын
@Mickey Mouse Except the majority of the slave labourers were South Asian civilians, not British (plus Australian, Indian, etc) POWs.
@cuber5003 3 жыл бұрын
Nice no one talks about Thailand during the World wars.
@Marinealver 3 жыл бұрын
Probably because many still called it Siam even though the name was changed a few years ago.
@cuber5003 3 жыл бұрын
@@Marinealver true
@morisco56 3 жыл бұрын
Or cold war
@Erde_midget770 3 жыл бұрын
...Or befor 1918
@chocolatedumdum2 3 жыл бұрын
As a Thai American I really appreciate this video as I cannot understand my grandfather who was alive during ww2
@StickWithTrigger 3 жыл бұрын
Dude said "brb" and then logged off
@pnutz_2 3 жыл бұрын
went for a piss when everyone was readying up
@SobaYatai 3 жыл бұрын
He forgot to check his gameplay in Call of Wars
@paulphanachet 3 жыл бұрын
I’m Thai and I love it! I joined the Time Ghost army when you guys covered the Franco-Thai war last year. I was a fan since your WW1 series. This is awesome team!
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@EE-wx1ow 3 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo indy could you do video about turkey in world war 2
@highgroundgamer1435 3 жыл бұрын
Thai here as well, glad the team focused on our country as well
@jrpanoy6407 3 жыл бұрын
พี่ปปปปปป
@vladimpaler3498 3 жыл бұрын
My company has several branches in your country. Everyone we work with there is very good and super nice. I have to give Thailand triple thumbs up. 👍👍👍
@maciejkamil 3 жыл бұрын
I loved that portrait disappeared when the Phibun did.
@johnnypatrickhaus890 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I didn't twig that 😅
@anita_skye2051 3 жыл бұрын
In true that was NOT a colour picture in true it's black&white picture
@totallynotalpharius2283 3 жыл бұрын
Thailand : declare war on America Thai ambassador : suck it
@hisaspher4519 3 жыл бұрын
Thai ambassador Seni Pramoj he became Free Thai Lol
@Saipan2297 3 жыл бұрын
@@hisaspher4519 Gotta give you some warnings for that user name bro 😳
@miyamotosachiko4694 3 жыл бұрын
@Daleh LS5302372 It means Europe sucks. LOL
@North29TH 3 жыл бұрын
@@hisaspher4519 เปลี่ยนชื่อเหอะ
@SobaYatai 3 жыл бұрын
@@hisaspher4519 nice english you got there white boy
@thomasaffolter4386 3 жыл бұрын
To their credit, Thailand did a good diplomatic balancing act that kept foreign powers out for years.
@BangFarang1 3 жыл бұрын
The Thai did nothing. They were just in between French and British territories. If the French had moved in, they would have been at war with Britain. If the British had moved in, they would have been at war with France. So both parties remained still to avoid a clash between themselves.
@mabeSc 3 жыл бұрын
@@BangFarang1 Yeah , that was a good job. They did avoid getting completely conquered and avoided some of the worst that WW2 had to give.
@davidpeters6536 3 жыл бұрын
@@BangFarang1 The British had already kicked the French out of Thailand for the Thais and to keep the "buffer zone" free.
@BangFarang1 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidpeters6536 The British took over some Malaysian territory occupied by Siam and the French took over some Laotian and some Cambodian territories occupied by Siam. It was a win-win agreement, nobody has been kicked out.
@user-jf8sg1ye6p 3 жыл бұрын
@@BangFarang1 I think you forgot the part about Russo-Siamese ties.
@CUL8TR 3 жыл бұрын
Japan: Are you our ally? Thailand: Well yes, but actually no.
@vzrxn 3 жыл бұрын
Thats how they survived from being colonised.
@anita_skye2051 3 жыл бұрын
They just do that for survive(i'm Thai)
@waterz2415 3 жыл бұрын
@@anita_skye2051 Yes(i'm thai)
@nam1nam241 3 жыл бұрын
555
@e21big 3 жыл бұрын
"if you won"
@aaa00705 3 жыл бұрын
I live in southern of Thailand where those Japanese armies landed on the beach, a kilometer away from my home. I’ve heard about them from elderlies when I was a child, yet it was unclear for the whole context. Until I realized that it was a part of the world-scale warfare (technically, my home was where the operation for Malaya began, as he explained in the video)
@mint8648 3 жыл бұрын
hi
@modvangarma 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing that I didn't really like about Phibun's strategy is that he chose to deploy Junior Soldiers Regiments during the initial part of the invasion , those youths deserved to live instead of being 15 yrs old and know how to kill :(
@goodputin4324 3 жыл бұрын
You're from Sg. GOLOK
@modvangarma 3 жыл бұрын
@Hitler gaming yt Yes the fact that they are intetionally and fully volunteered to die for Siam is even more depressing I just wanna point out that kids should live their lives man 😔
@ideensamalle597 3 жыл бұрын
I come from Pattani, Thailand. Along the shores where Japanese troops landed, stories have been told about incidents before, during and after the landings by eyewitnesses, the stories that usually ended up with endless sadness, glory, humor and other feelings
@abian36 3 жыл бұрын
"A greater Thailand" Boy I got some news for you
@Marinealver 3 жыл бұрын
The capital is an English innuendo when you use puns and mispronunciation.
@rkka1989 3 жыл бұрын
Want Brian Blessed to read this line🤣
@adude8424 3 жыл бұрын
Thailand did annexed some Malaya's territory. I still wish we got to annex Songkhla, Narathiwat, Satun, Pattani back to Malaysia
@madiaw5553 3 жыл бұрын
@@adude8424 That malays?? (care to share the story)cause the pre war map shows those belong to thailand from the get go.
@adude8424 3 жыл бұрын
@@madiaw5553 Islamic Sultanate used to exists in southern thailand. Siam wanted to expand their sphere of influence so they invaded and annexed those area (Pattani Kingdom) while some surrendered (Satun sultanate) . The Siamese even tried to invade Sultanate of Kedah but failed. Anglo-Siamese treaty of 1909 was final nail in the coffin that sets the modern border of malaysia - thailand.
@Epsa_ Жыл бұрын
Thailand is one of the most underrated nations in history, survived colonisation while being surrounded by both Britain and France. Played a relatively important part in WW2 and had good relations in WW1. Their previous kingdoms, Sukhothai, Ayutthaya, Thonburi, Rattanakosin. Ayutthaya was even the biggest city in the world at one point, before it’s destruction. Great nation, great people, great culture.
@BoBoRoz1 2 ай бұрын
Thx you
@daveirwin6903 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Time Ghost covers all the countries and leaders of the war, and not just the major players. And, as a side bonus, I got to learn why we are given Western style eating utensils at Thai restaurants.
@Zen-sx5io 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Time Ghost.
@657449 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Irwin I was in Bangkok fifty years ago. The food is normally impossibly hot and they add pepper flakes. The beer is fifteen percent alcohol.
@kadecase7470 3 жыл бұрын
657449 Man, that must’ve been a trip.
@lesliefranklin1870 3 жыл бұрын
@@657449 Drink the beer first. Then the food is not so spicy until the next day.
@MandalorV7 3 жыл бұрын
Forks are fascist! 😆
@bangscutter 3 жыл бұрын
Thailand in South East Asia is like Sweden in Europe during World War 2. Surrounded on all sides by greater powers and effectively becoming a buffer state between greater powers. Both have to carefully navigate diplomacy to maintain neutrality, by playing all sides. The difference being that Thailand at that time had nationalistic expansionism agenda on top of maintaining the status quo.
@tvgerbil1984 3 жыл бұрын
Unlike Sweden, Thailand was a formal member of the Axis. The bases it provided to the Japanese were critical to the Japanese success in the Malayan Campaign of 1941.
@404Dannyboy 3 жыл бұрын
More like Norway than Sweden tbh.
@orestisbe6978 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, Finland was in a far more difficult position than Sweden. They ended up fighting both sides.
@0ldCat 3 жыл бұрын
Sure.. Navigating diplomacy carefully whilst having its own expansionist desires. Everyone tries to come out of WWII as victims, or innocent bystanders, like their shït don't smell as bad. In fact it smells of lavender and coriander 🤭 Fact is, everyone was as predatory as the circumstances and means allowed. That's the wicked nature of hoomans, no matter the nationality. Cower and snivel if you're overwhelmed, conquer and rape if you're in superiority. That's the way of the world. Has been for millenia past, continues to this day, and will continue in the future until the end of it all. Which will come. And sooner than we anticipate 🥴
@anantachonnambat6701 3 жыл бұрын
@@orestisbe6978 Yeah, there was a time Churchill addressed Thailand as "Finland of the East" just because we later exit Axis just like Finland did. Tho we didn't try to stand ground against Japan because unlike the Fins we have neither manpower nor help from anyone.
@thedreadtyger 3 жыл бұрын
Fascism With Thai Characteristics: The Thoughts of Leader Phibun
@angelusvastator1297 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo.
@davidbrennan660 3 жыл бұрын
“We eat rice with a spoon “ as I was once told by a Thai person.
@hsc894 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbrennan660 Bold of the Thai person to say that. We Filipinos also eat rice with a spoon.
@Saipan2297 3 жыл бұрын
@@hsc894 Have you ever eaten rice *with your hands?*
@hsc894 3 жыл бұрын
@@Saipan2297 I did, but eating with a spoon is also common.
@joepalooka2145 3 жыл бұрын
I've been reading and studying WWII history for over 50 years, and there are always new chapters to learn that you never discovered before. Thailand is one of those stories that is rarely discussed. Thanks for such a great educational video which expands our knowledge of WW2.
@RandomRetr0 3 жыл бұрын
Had no idea of Thailand’s role during the Pacific escalation. This is something you just don’t read in books. Thank you for this
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@elwin38 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THAILAND!! Had the opportunity to go to Pattaya Beach in March, 1987 while i was in the US Navy. One of my favorite port visits ever.
@chaling8448 3 жыл бұрын
I hope u will come to Thailand again, always welcome!
@meowmaggie277 3 жыл бұрын
Pattaya? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@majorblitz3846 3 жыл бұрын
Well shit, You might as well just lie and said you were going to Chiangmai instead, at least people will not assume it's yet another sex touring.
@FOOJFOOJIYAMA 3 жыл бұрын
The 5$ hookers are something else....
@AnarchHive 3 жыл бұрын
World: Ok Siam, time to decide! With whom would you prefer to ally? Axis or Allies? Siam: It's a thai!
@jodgo26metal 3 жыл бұрын
Haha
@gordonliu3972 Жыл бұрын
Axis and Allies is an amazing board game.
@ricardoabs15 3 жыл бұрын
Every video in this channel is wonderful to watch, so much details and great explanations. Greetings from Brasil 🇧🇷
@luxembourgishempire2826 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I think Thailand's participation in WW2 is kind of underated tbh.
@du0305 3 жыл бұрын
As well as Lëtzeburgs
@vilimivankovic6125 3 жыл бұрын
@@du0305 what's that?
@du0305 3 жыл бұрын
@@vilimivankovic6125 Luxemburg in the local language
@overlord165 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard less about Thailand during the ww2 than I've heard of Luxembourg.
@QuizmasterLaw 3 жыл бұрын
underexamined for sure, but underrated maybe not. there's not much there, and just about none of it is secret.
@noxDOTevolvedDOTgmai 3 жыл бұрын
Thailand: Let's side with the winner.
@99somerville 3 жыл бұрын
Always a good idea!
@Minkung555 3 жыл бұрын
The Italy of Asia
@yobitchcantfindme5288 3 жыл бұрын
@67schueppi 29schueppi that Monument didnt built out of Ww2 Victory but the war with the Frenchie in Vietnam.
@quadeong7453 3 жыл бұрын
@@yobitchcantfindme5288 minus the horrific casualties
@moladiver6817 3 жыл бұрын
While trying to gain something from the situation. Quite opportunistic and not something to be proud of if you ask me. Thai leaders have been lacking morale for a long time and it hasn't gotten any better. Thai people are crying for democracy but I'm afraid they'll never really get it.
@fortis3686 3 жыл бұрын
Thailand must’ve felt how Abyssinia felt before Italy conquered it
@jonbaxter2254 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but they pushed the Italians out like 3 years after. Still got some prestige for what they did
@marcobonesi6794 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonbaxter2254 well the english army pushed the italians out. After the conquest and pacification the resistance had been wiped out by 1940.
@inamacalin1 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonbaxter2254 no they didn't push the italians out. The british did it and to be precise it was the Nigerian askaris who did it. But the itiopiàns get the glory.
@juniatapark54 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcobonesi6794British, British East & West African, Indian, South African and even some Belgian Congolese.
@j.m.f5451 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonbaxter2254 Have you not been watching this series? The British and Commonwealth forces took Ethiopia.
@zolafuckass8606 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but that quick zoom on the line "that is not the case though" was pretty darned funny.
@Rickinsf 3 жыл бұрын
Odd coincidence, the other day I was wondering where and when "Siam" became known as "Thailand."
@azamshahuddin781 3 жыл бұрын
No wonder when I was living in Thailand in the early 1980s as a Malaysian Diplomat's son, Japanese Pop Culture was very popular like a lot of Anime were shown on the local tv stations and the many Japanese department stores.Many years later as an adult, I came to know the reason why-Thailand had a long friendship with Japan dating back to World War 2 when the 2 countries were Allies.
@azamshahuddin781 3 жыл бұрын
My Father also quoted what the Thais may have said to the invading Japanese Military during World War 2-Mai Pain Rai.Chern Kap(It's ok.Carry on)
@azamshahuddin781 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mrfronter Just like the Japanese investments in Malaysia started during the 1970s.
@bakabon114 3 жыл бұрын
Now, many Thais, and other Southeast Asians, grew up from those 1980's era are weebs till this day, in the same way Korean-Pop's influence in the last 2 decades
@corporalpunishment1133 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best channel's on KZfaq no doubt every episode is amazing. Thanks for all your efforts.
@JoachimLarsen101 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive how you can make something interessting even more interresting and entertaining with such high quality and empathy, and dare I say a great sense of humour! Thank you, and please keep'em coming.
@robertheisenberg6867 3 жыл бұрын
His name means “Strange”. In Thailand, the fist name is what you call the person therefore you call him Pleak or Mr.Strange. Lung Wichiwathagan is a title means “Minister of Public Relations Department” as Pleak’s title is “Lung Phibunsongkram” means ‘Knight of artillery’
@BangFarang1 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Plaek, that's probably the reason everybody in Thailand called him only by his initial *Marshall P* (Jomphon Por in Thai). He was already an adult when Siam implemented the use of family names, he probably chose his by himself then.
@wasantube 3 жыл бұрын
Real life dr. Strange!
@BangFarang1 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoeSmith-op6qf What they call today "nicknames" were the official ID given names up to the 1950-60s. Now the Thai choose sofisticated names for their birth certificates (to avoid beeing perceived as illiterate), but in daily life they still use the name their mums gave to them (the so-called nickname).
@JoeSmith-op6qf 3 жыл бұрын
@@BangFarang1Yes, that history is true, yet nicknames do not appear on any official documents, they are exactly the same as nicknames in the West and have nothing to do with your given name. In Thai we call them cheu len or ชื่อเล่น. They do not appear on any birth certificate or other official document. Lek, Noi, Jit, Gai, Daeng, Gop etc are "nicknames" real first name examples are Aphisit, Kasem, Malee, Panthep and the like.
@BangFarang1 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoeSmith-op6qf Maybe I was not clear in my explanation. Before the 1950s Lek, Noi, Jit, Gai, Daeng, Gop were the names given by the parents and they were the legal names on the birth certificate and IDs. Only aristocrats had sofisticated names. After the 1950s Lek, Noi, Jit, Gai, Daeng, Gop are STILL the names given by the parents, but for the birth certificate and IDs they choose a more "bourgeois" legal name like Aphisit, Kasem, Malee, Panthep, Orawan, Umaporn, Siriporn, Kittiporn, all the porn you want to choose. That is how the given names became called nicknames, because the *paternalistic administration* doesn't want them to be registered on any documents anymore, to show that the Thai are "civilized". But for your mom you're still Lek, Noi, Jit, Gai, Daeng, Gop, she will never call you Aphisit. In the western world, nicknames are a completely different thing.
@andyrbush 3 жыл бұрын
I live most of the year in Thailand. It is a fascinating country with wonderful people. They have a way of getting around all problems, big and small, with relative ease , calm and ingenuity. You have to live there to understand that, because from the outside a lot of things that do work well here, initially make no sense to a westerner. Good luck with the western cutlery though in the countryside. Spoons and chopsticks reign. The food is fabulous though. Excellent video thank you.
@EJ_Red 3 жыл бұрын
This video was actually very interesting, probably my favorite biography videos so far
@rexprestonstoner4612 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video. Thank you.
@matthewgriffiths5005 3 жыл бұрын
Big fan of the series, and this reminded me of the French-Thai campaign in Indochina. If I wanted to remind myself of that campaign, could you edit together all of the sections of the weekly videos on that campaign into a supercut/campaign video, and do something similar to that for say the east africa campaign, battle of france and/or similar. I followed the great war channel and now this one, thank you Indy and the team for more than 5 years of weekly entertainment.
@gravity-san9781 3 жыл бұрын
He got himself a big seat in Thailand's History though Marshall P. as we call him did many things and bring much change to Thailand some are a success but some are pretty much weird events in Thai people's eyes. It is good to have an episode about my country I love it.
@declanoleary1 3 жыл бұрын
Watching from Cambodia, yet another great episode, stay safe all at Time Ghost and all the TG army
@mahatmagamgee1831 3 жыл бұрын
brilliant episode, this is all new to me. brilliant!
@user-sm9hh9hz8j 3 жыл бұрын
The war between France and Thailand ended with the victory of Thailand and France ceded territory in favor of Thailand.
@cliffcox7643 3 жыл бұрын
Though he basically let them walk all over Thailand, this actually saved the country from destruction.. My mom who is thai, said at the time, "what can we do, we cannot fight Japan", so must do as they say.. It did save the country from destruction.
@KurtisCardwell 3 жыл бұрын
Great content guys!
@patriotadam4091 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this, made my day
@wintermanthenforcer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you greatly for covering my country! This part of our history is almost never thought in schools.
@patchanonsoontarodom3364 3 жыл бұрын
Hey you just gave me my history lesson better than any teacher in my school. That was very clear and informative, thank you very much.
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words!
@user-bz5io6ph8w 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, excellent research into an often glossed over part of WW2 history. Bravo!
@maxdurk4624 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this!!!
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@jamesevans1897 3 жыл бұрын
>When you declare war on the US and they don't declare war back Dunno if that's shade or just laughable
@gonachietomo2839 3 жыл бұрын
Another reason is that the Thai ambassador to the United States refused to deliver the declaration of war in the first place because he was pro-allies and hated Phibun for having taken part in the overthrowing of absolute monarchy years ago. (The ambassador "Seni Pramoj" was a staunch royalist)
@Marinealver 3 жыл бұрын
True story- Japan did reject a declaration of war in the early 1900s, I forgot when it was if it was during one of the world wars or before and who it was from. I think one of the S. American countries maybe Brazil or Argentina who were on the Atlantic coastline thus really couldn't threaten Japanese ambitions at the time so Japan simply sent a reply that they were "unable to accept the declaration at this time".
@kyngo550 3 жыл бұрын
@@Marinealver I know what country you’re talking about. It was Montenegro. The country declared war on Japan in 1904, as an ally of Russia. Japan did the same thing when Poland declared war on the country in 1941. Tojo said that Poland only declared war on Japan because “it was pressured to do so by the United Kingdom”.
@billh230 3 жыл бұрын
Sort of like "The Mouse That Roared".
@juniatapark54 3 жыл бұрын
How do you say in Thai? "Those bombs dropping on us are from countries we're not officially at war with."
@adude8424 3 жыл бұрын
7:06 "We can't just randomly pass through a neutral country to attack another country" Germany : *laugh in passing through belgium to avoid maginot line*
@jakapobp.8949 3 жыл бұрын
I have waited for this one for quite a while.
@Marinealver 3 жыл бұрын
Japan: Ready or Not, Here I Come! Phibun: Ight, Ima Head Out!
@TheCimbrianBull 3 жыл бұрын
Phibun in chat: brb
@rudranshu65sengupta14 3 жыл бұрын
Maldus Alver Vidkun Quisling: Allow me to introduce myself.
@prla5400 3 жыл бұрын
Aigh, gtg
@wertyuiw7264 3 жыл бұрын
Never thought this day would come. Great gob Indy team's and Indy himself, keep up the great work!. Love the shows. PS: I'm Thai
@kyawsanmin2424 3 жыл бұрын
Burmese in 1942: *laughs nervously*
@TheDirtysouthfan 3 жыл бұрын
Burma was happy at the time. Their future independence leaders were trained by Japan and helped them drive out the British. The ones who really suffered were the Rohingya and Muslim minorities.
@TheDirtysouthfan 3 жыл бұрын
@lati long Well the province they're from is Arakan, or Rakhine as it's known nowadays. It wasn't originally part of Burma/Myanmar. It suffered from depopulation due to war with the Burmese Kingdom, so when the British took it over they settled it with British Indians to repopulate it. Its history has always been one of Myanma people coming in from the East and Indians from the West. Myanma are a huge portion of the population of Myanmar, but the country is large and diverse. It's struggled ever since independence with secessionist movements.
@mtha7796 3 жыл бұрын
@DANIEL BIN OMAR - His daughter even married to a British man, hahaha.
@nestle6763 3 жыл бұрын
Great video 😊
@Doc_Tar 3 жыл бұрын
Will the Thai's fight along side the Japanese, resist the Japanese or try to stay neutral from all the colonial powers of the time? Looking forward to more history from this region of the world.
@nuttherapist2742 3 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not. All three. At the same time!
@i3oringdayz 3 жыл бұрын
Our answer to that is ... Yes?
@bodyzalone 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we did all of it like warcrime, resistance against Japanese, fighting a war alongside the Japanese, fought a Vichy French in French Indochina basically we did all of it,
@alexlo7708 3 жыл бұрын
No, there're no Thai fought in same side with Japanese but they did some counter offensive such fired anti aircraft guns when being bombed.
@SandrasSpicySpanishSalami 3 жыл бұрын
*Looking sharp Indy*
@johnlowell5905 3 жыл бұрын
The Thai are pretty good at being diplomatic. When I visited one palace, the guide showed us fire damage from a air raid by a "unknown" bomber. Happened to be the first B-29 raid of the war.
@gary1477 2 жыл бұрын
It was a raid by US B24 bomber based in Burma.
@johnlowell5905 2 жыл бұрын
@@gary1477 Maybe, the palace is pretty far from the main rail yards, which was the target for the B-29 raid.
@gary1477 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnlowell5905 In the National Library of Australia, they have WW2 USAAF maps of Bangkok. On one map, I saw Hua Lampong Railway Station (which was bombed) and a site on the opposite side of the river from the Royal Palace which was marked as a POW camp for allied servicemen (which was not bombed). In the same library, there are WW2 Thai newspapers which are not available in Thailand. In these newspapers, several now prominent Thai families were enthusiastic supporters of the Japanese war effort. B29 bombers were not introduced to the Pacific theatre until the middle of 1945. In the early part of the Pacific War, B17 bombers were withdrawn in favour of B24 bombers which had greater range. Later in the war, B17 bombers were used to bomb Japan.
@johnlowell5905 2 жыл бұрын
@@gary1477 Sounds like you have spent some time in Thailand. June 1944 was the first B-29 raid, target was rail yards in Bangkok. I would surmise the huge facility at Makkasan is the most logical target. This raid was from China. The poor results of this and early raids to the Yawata works led to the B-29's redeployment to the Marianas. BTW, I've been to Kanchanaburi numerous times and think the death railway museum is world class. I sensed a very strong Australian presence there.
@wjameszzz186 Жыл бұрын
@@gary1477 "there are WW2 Thai newspapers which are not available in Thailand" What the hell are you talking about?
@regiltube7932 3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, it's different than any other with your details, testimonials and emmersive Facts that the other channel do not relay. But I found it *LONG* lolll
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it :
@themadgamer8024 3 жыл бұрын
Great subject very interesting!
@OleLeik 3 жыл бұрын
Thailand had spent some time before being the only none colonized nation in the region by playing a careful game of one power against the other. This time was no different and given their position and situation, I think they played their cards right.
@edwardballard1333 3 жыл бұрын
I was stationed in Thailand with the US Army in Sattihip and there was an Japanese aircraft hanger from ww2 close to where I was stationed
@puvadetprommakrit8885 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for you video.
@WorldWarTwo Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching with us @Puvadet Prommakrit
@dangallagher8535 3 жыл бұрын
I know you have limited time, but a follow on into how Thailand and this guy fared at the end of the war would be interesting as part of the wrap up to the series.
@Fiberous_Pulley 3 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting I am intrigued by the Pacific war and this was great to learn about
@motorcop505 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely recommend that you watch the 4-part series on KZfaq called "Hell in the Pacific." It includes people from all sides of the conflict, including both civilian and military Japanese, British, American, Australian, people, as well as from many other nations. It also includes a number of interviews with very famous people such as: Col. Paul Tibbitts, the pilot that dropped the first A bomb, the singer Dame Vera Lynn, the actor Rod Steiger, and others. Furthermore, I encourage you to watch the related series that focuses on the experiences of Dr. Eugene B. Sledge called "With the Old Breed." Its companion book is one of the most highly acclaimed books by a regular service member (in this case a Marine), and it served as the basis for the HBO series "The Pacific."
@UnicornGamingRX03 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in Thailand, live in Kanchanaburi during my early years of the 1990's. My father who was a writer and journalist for the Bangkok post introduced me to Nagase Takeshi and Trevor Dakin who were WWII veterans. The pacific theatre is part of my hobby as a interest of where I grew up near the rail line of the Thai-Burma track. I live in Australia now as I am more Australian than Thai, yes... my Thai is worse than my Japanese or German. The video is nice in a way how my two sides were on Japan and Allies so I am neutral in between. I have delved deep into history as a hobby as a better way to apricate history in not forgetting unlike the cancel culture.
@sayit462 3 жыл бұрын
Totally unknown facts for most of us. Thank you very interesting
@mxd-1990asn 3 жыл бұрын
In Ayutthaya ,not that far from bangkok is place called ''JAPANESE VILLAGE'' i think its some type od museum ( not sure if its has anything to do with this though ) and i think ayutthaya is also one of the places with the most japanese ppl in thailand besides bangkok (my cousin is also from ayutthya and mixed with thai&japanese , her grandpa was a japanese who came to live in thailand long ago but i think the reason was just bcs he thought its easier to live in thailand, at least thats how he saw it. Anyhow she and her siblings are the only thai-japanese mixed in our family, the rest of my fam is just thai and thai-chinese which is a typical and the most common mix in thailand )
@markgarin6355 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting as the Japanese believed like Germany they were the master race and all others were considered worthy of being downtrodden... No room for Thailand at the big boy table.
@tdphonetdphone4748 Жыл бұрын
1. Thailand has been related for hundreds of years. And Thailand used to appoint Japanese people as governors in the Ayothaya period and the Thai and Japanese kings have a long relationship. 2. Thailand and Japan are nations with the same monarchy. ...from🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭❤️🎌
@Ashley_Alternative 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for telling me his story I've wanted to hear it for a long time XD
@indianajones4321 3 жыл бұрын
Glad someone is mentioning Thailand in WW2
@rsuriyop 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Thai uncle who was old enough to have served during WWII. I'm glad he didn't get caught in the middle of a possible fight with the Imperial Japanese and managed to live until his 70s. I'm happy for all my Thai family who were alive during that time actually.
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your Uncle's story, it's comments like this that really bring history to life!
@conned 8 ай бұрын
Ours died ..Sook Chin....
@porksterbob 3 жыл бұрын
Correction on this video... While there are Shans in China, the biggest concentration of Shans is in Burma... in the part known as the "Shan States." The fear of Thai attack through the Shan states was a big part of complicating allied defensive plans.
@buddhidev7877 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Aeyekay0 3 жыл бұрын
I was beginning to wonder what happened in Thailand, nice informational video
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@graysonguinn1943 3 жыл бұрын
When Thailand needed him most, he vanished
@angelusvastator1297 3 жыл бұрын
And now all of Thailand hates people like him lol.
@alexlo7708 3 жыл бұрын
He was at the end of tunnel then.
@Nolaris3 2 жыл бұрын
Because everything changed when the Fire Na- I mean Japanese attacked
@ParseeAikoku 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelusvastator1297 I didn't
@darthvitrisia1311 3 жыл бұрын
If you wants to know more about the cultural "modernization" in Thailand during Plaek's regime, There's this movie called "The Overture" (โหมโรง). It's about A traditional thai instrument player facing the changing world which won't allow him to play what he loves anymore. It's a good movie which presents the tone of that era pretty accurately.
@HootOwl513 3 жыл бұрын
Thailand was provided by the IJAAF with some Ki-43 ''Hayabusa'' OSCAR fighters. I remember building a model of one in 1/72 scale with Elephant* decals back in high school. [ * Rampant White elephant in Red rectangle.]
@Dirol359 3 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. I would love to see you guys do a biography on either Norman Bethune. The Canadian doctor performing battlefield operations in China or John Rabe, German ambassador to China, who saved countless lives during the Nanking massacre.
@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! While fascinating, our timeline is unfortunately too far along to look at these men. Rabe passed in November 1939 and and Bethune wasn't that relevant to the Second World War as a whole. We did do a whole episode on the start of the Second Sino-Japanese War if you would like to learn more about that, check it out here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lZmmg6qhxtPYdH0.html
@porksterbob 3 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo Seriously, John Rabe died in 1950 and he wasn't the German ambassador. I've bugged you guys on your China coverage, but it's hard to give the benefit of the doubt when you don't even bother to take 15 seconds to check wikipedia when correcting someone... The story of how the people of Nanjing after the war... then undergoing massive hyperinflation, raised massive amounts of money for John Rabe who was penniless in Germany, is inspiring.
@Pwich1 3 жыл бұрын
If Japan and Thailand win the war Thailand may return Laos and Shan State from European powers. And get some land from Malaysia and Cambodia
@veronicianyveronica5290 3 жыл бұрын
@Peach Peach hahaha you’re right
@gunman47 3 жыл бұрын
it's nice to see Southeast Asian (SEA) leaders and personalities being covered by Indy & team here. Often this part of the region tends to get less focus and is not very well known outside of Asia. Hopefully we might get a chance to see more SEA leaders covered too in the future, coming from a Southeast Asian myself here.
@cheeseman9481 3 жыл бұрын
Marshal P. Was a true hero of Thailand even though he wasn’t perfect but there was a lot of thing he did for Thailand like making our country civilized.
@Nolaris3 3 жыл бұрын
I wrote my Master's thesis on this guy, very fascinating period in Thai history (pronounced Pee-boon though, if you see a "ph" in front of a Thai word, pronounce it with a normal "p", not like the Vietnamese one)
@graysonguinn1943 3 жыл бұрын
Pee balloon lol
@jakapobp.8949 3 жыл бұрын
@adum50 that should be close enough.
@Dayvit78 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you :) We can't expect Indy to pronounce every language correctly, but it's nice to have a gentle correction for those who are interested. With the Thai ph, you can say the p is aspirated - it means there will be a puff of air when you say it (it the normal way English speakers say p), whereas a regular p will be much softer and without the puff of air.
@Nolaris3 3 жыл бұрын
@adum50 yeah yours is probably more accurate
@Nolaris3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dayvit78 I know about aspirations but I wasn't sure if anyone else would get it. But yeah that's what I would have meant
@gianniverschueren870 3 жыл бұрын
That tie definitely has presence! Not sure about the combination with the shirt, but the tie does enough heavy lifting for me to barely notice. 4/5
@TheCimbrianBull 3 жыл бұрын
Gianni, a tie? I think you mean to say a Thai. 😁
@DavidS_Tan 3 жыл бұрын
So, according to the Germans, Chinese were 'Aryans of the East', whilst according to the Thais, the Chinese were 'Jews of the East'.
@cass7448 3 жыл бұрын
What is it with nationalists and Jews? Even when they're not persecuting Jews they still call them Jews!
@conroypawgmail 3 жыл бұрын
Uhm, no. Hitler referred to the Japanese as the Aryans of the East, when they joined the Axis powers, not the Chinese.
@DavidS_Tan 3 жыл бұрын
@@conroypawgmail the Chinese too
@vultschlange 3 жыл бұрын
@@conroypawgmail Hitler considered both the Chinese and Japanese the aryans of the East. He was even a bit undecided as to ally with whom (in East Asia). He ultimately chose Japan over China.
@peechaichum5698 3 жыл бұрын
@@vultschlange What about the Korean?
@schepvogelk5971 3 жыл бұрын
Never know about this. Interesting!
@kadecase7470 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff.
@bratwurst1999 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this nice video which explains Thailand and Phibun in 1941. Why Phibun disappeared shortly before Japanese Army came to/invaded Thailand? If you would live in this country for several years, you could understand it easily as "a normal way of life. I have been living in this kingdom to know the people here always avoids to be responsible to anything. At crucial moments they always disappear, even though they are nice friends. By his absence from Bangkok Phibun gained pretexts to the both sides, to Japanese and to British: To Japanese he could say, he did nothing against Japanese Army, just local forces (military, boys soldiers, police and others) fought against them. To British he could say, his country resisted against Japanese but without the aid of British Army they couldn't defeat Japanese... At the end of the war they said that the war declaration against Britain and the USA in 1941 was invalid because of lack of the signatures...
@tmack11 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm playing both sides, that way I always come out on top"
@skeetrix5577 3 жыл бұрын
hi indy you're awesome!:)
@user-xe7fv8xc2k 3 жыл бұрын
2:45 fun fact Phibun himself was Thai-Chinese.
@user-vx7jm4jh4s 3 жыл бұрын
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@hs1koa 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-vx7jm4jh4s "แปลก"
@Game_Hero 3 жыл бұрын
Hitler : "We must preserve the superior race of blue-eyed blonde people which I'm definitely a part of"
@sdeitym 3 жыл бұрын
to identify that someone is Chinese or not in Thailand they must 100% Chinese but you can tell that someone being jews just have a few jews on their gene
@basedkaiser5352 3 жыл бұрын
@@Game_Hero Hitler did have blue eyes though.
@m.artotzka3404 3 жыл бұрын
As a thai, Phibulsongkram is still a controversial figure in Thailand there a lot of his policies are outright weird and nationalistic for examples, Make chicken as a Thai national symbol, planned to move capital city to Phetchabun (a small mountainous city that offers no strategic of economic values at all), etc. Anyway, great contents as always and I would love to see you guys talk about Pridi Banomyong and Free Thai Movement guerrilla warfare against Japanese troops though
@TheBard1999 3 жыл бұрын
If I may ask, why chicken?
@golf_supa 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBard1999 He was born in the Chinese zodiac year of the Rooster (Despite his anti-Chinese policy, he is of Chinese descent) So he adopted a Chicken seal as his kinda personal "Coat of Arms" intermediating the King's Guruda (Mythical eagle) seal that has been use as the National emblem for centuries.
@TheBard1999 3 жыл бұрын
@@golf_supa thanks for the answer. I found it interesting because chicken is present all over the world and doesn't seem like something specific to Thailand.
@Nolaris3 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite was his language policies where he decided to simplify Thai spelling while the war was going on, presumably to increase Thai literacy. But in the present, they just look super weird now (dis is dee eekwivalent of rahyting Inglish laik dis)
@hub6490 2 жыл бұрын
History is written by the victors. many of weird stories was result of slander from royalist side.at the time it was pivot point of competition between fascist and monarchy. Compare to Marshal Sarit (monarchy side, the winner side) who well known for absurd corruption by peoples in that time but way less in negative mentioned from domestic mainstream history .
@annescholey6546 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the scene in Bangkok Hilton when Denholm Elliott has a wartime flashback facing Japanese soldiers...
@TheCimbrianBull 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that movie.
@AstaPalladium 3 жыл бұрын
I am from Thailand and I'm really proud of it
@edwardcamp3376 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'd like to send this letter to the Prussian consulate in Siam by aeromail. Am I too late for the 4: 30 auto-gyro?
@liammcgovern2113 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact that is not well known but he was still leader of Thailand until the 50s and was back by the us
@piwat33539 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Leader Phibun invented the famous dish of Pad Thai.
@aaa00705 3 жыл бұрын
I would call it as edible nationalism
@gggbbb6841 3 жыл бұрын
@@fabianweiner1196 No it is true
@fabianweiner1196 3 жыл бұрын
Really?
@fabianweiner1196 3 жыл бұрын
It's called bami goreng in Indonesia...
@piwat33539 3 жыл бұрын
@@fabianweiner1196 I looked up couples of Thai sources and found that you're partially correct. His relative said that the Leader never said he invented the dish but rather originated from a Chinese stir fired noodle. The Thai version of the dish uses different ingredients, notably rice-based noodle instead of wheat-based noodle. Bami Goreng also originated from the Chinese dish too but it still uses wheat-based noodle, definitely not Pad Thai.
@TheEnergizer94 3 жыл бұрын
In some cases, the incredible executive power associated with dictatorship is necessary for a country's survival. I don't think Thailand would have done so well for itself during WW2 with a constitutional monarchy or a democracy. That's what even the Romans did in times of great danger. Granted, the dictator needs to be competent. Ahemmussolini
@stoneruler 3 жыл бұрын
During ww2 Thailand: Japan is our bff! After ww2 Thailand: Never heard of him.
@peechaichum5698 3 жыл бұрын
And today Thailand: I love Japan
@niceyoureadmycomment323 3 жыл бұрын
To day Thais : IM WEEB
@asiandoge2088 3 жыл бұрын
@@niceyoureadmycomment323 indeed we are pure weebs 😂
@jetthanawut5436 3 жыл бұрын
@@peechaichum5698 yes today we love japan
@ZetsubouGintama 2 жыл бұрын
@@niceyoureadmycomment323 We are proud to be weeb. At least we hide it better than western weeb.
@keatkhamjornmeekanon7616 2 жыл бұрын
This video glosses over Thailand war with the British and KMT force in Shan state in 1942. Japan asked PM Pibun to help them to invade Shan state. After capturing part of Shan State, Thailand established United States of Tai as part of Thailand from 1942-1945.
@lek1223 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly this guy sounds like one of the most competent national leaders in the ww2 era, the only real screwup it sounds like was judging the american and british out too early and acting on it. not that he is one of the good guys of course.
@Nolaris3 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, not entirely. Neutrality and diplomatic opportunism was always the standard approach of the Thai government since they knew that fighting Britain and France was a lost cause. Phibun certainly has a lot of Mussolini-style ideas for modernizing Thailand, and it can be quite bizarre. He famously mandated all citizens to wear hats to "behave" more modern and named one of the ceded Indochinese provinces after himself. Could have been worse though.
@lek1223 3 жыл бұрын
@adum50 i didnt refer to him as a 'nationalist' in the sense of political views, just in the sense of being a national leader, to distinguish it from a military or industry leader. that said, copying facist tendencies from italy definately made him a facist.
@Nolaris3 3 жыл бұрын
@adum50 Big debate on whether Phibun is a fascist, though a lot of clues point to his admiration of Fascist economic policy. As with race, while he didn't encourage violence on any particular ethnic group, he still promoted the idea of Thai superiority over its neighboring ethnic groups. The framing of 'integrating' other ethnic groups as 'helping' is quite a stretch given the condescending and forceful nature of it, destroying the Northern Kam script and disemboweling Southern Malay culture that would factor into the Southern insurgency today. 'Helping' the Chinese is also a super massive stretch. Phibun's economic and cultural policies had always been about disenfranchising the Chinese economically, closing their businesses and schools. The Chinese were seen as an obstacle to his Thai nationalist project because of their economic dominance and large neighbor to the north. Even during his Second premiership, he would insist on such policies under the front of anti-Communism. Luang Wichit was even more extreme, conflating the Chinese with Jews and hinting that Thailand should have tried similar policies to Germany. My end point is that 'race' as viewed in Thailand is not necessarily viewed as ethnic, but culture. Similar to Imperial Rome or France, making other people part of your culture is enough to make them like you to some extent. But perhaps we shouldn't fool ourselves into believing that this process was any bit compassionate or consensual.
@barney10240 3 жыл бұрын
@adum50 He has some hatred towards Chinese minority and Christian minority in siam
@kingzod8536 3 жыл бұрын
@adum50 "integrating" them into thai culture, or doing a cultural genocide by forcing thai culture into ministry groups and cultures. There is a big difference between these things.
@malaysiadentist4637 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Indy ...you should do a piece on how Thailand got away unpunished as part of the axis collaboration.
@bakabon114 3 жыл бұрын
Well...after WW2, Thailand got some requests to do from UK, Russia and France before they let Thailand joined United Nations. These requests would be count as indirect punishment from Allied countries though.
@malaysiadentist4637 4 ай бұрын
@@mirrorocean3852 what kind of help? as far as I know, there was none
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