Japan's Ridiculous Weatherwoman Fiasco
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11 ай бұрынHiyama Saya experienced massive blowback last month after a major revelation. Find out why.
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@Japanalysis 11 ай бұрын
I love Hiyama Saya kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pMp5o65n0czGp58.html
@2137awuh 11 ай бұрын
omg i love her too!!!
@Lavi-Aemilia-Astori 11 ай бұрын
I love you
@sykroneeeee 11 ай бұрын
same
@ilikefact 11 ай бұрын
yay
@dwade03marion07 11 ай бұрын
Saya Hiyama 🤝 Japanalysis Loving them both
@satorudo 11 ай бұрын
Note when Fukuyama Masaharu announced he was getting married, this was literally front page news for like a week. The stock of the talent company he was in tanked like 20%. The news was literally middle age women weeping on the streets about it. Many people said they left his fan club. He was 46
@DanteCrowlley 11 ай бұрын
Japan is cursed by the conflict between Bushido n modern society, almost half the population are elders
@raidenthekat2444 11 ай бұрын
My goodness. Imagine being 46, still not married and not because you dont have options, but because you have a fan-club of desprate lonely women who are so selfish, they would rather see someone potentially suffer, just so they can keep their fantasy. Japan is a very backwards country at times.
@Maryalisha_ 11 ай бұрын
Japan definitely has a problem
@DoctorTauri 11 ай бұрын
Bruh 💀
@anonisnoone6125 11 ай бұрын
Japanese fans toxicity is fucking retarded. To those retards think they own the people? It's so fucking dumb.
@standbyDtH 2 ай бұрын
another irony to this, is that she was 29 and people simped for her hoping that she's single, yet it is the same country that stereotypically calls women expired christmas cakes if they are 25+ and not married
@raphk9599 Ай бұрын
They're not meant to win
@redcherry8137 Ай бұрын
Cx dang ya cant win
@user-ef5ug6jx5n 24 күн бұрын
That's the problem with having your career revolve around creating parasocial relationships with millions of socially malajusted men (or women, for what it's worth). I guess a good tactic to avoid this would be to not have a career that revolves around creating parasocial relationships with millions of socially malajusted men? Try being a school teacher, or nurse, or secretary. No fame or big payouts there, though. So I guess it's a bit of a trade off. It's just a shame that this weathergirl is the first ever... I dunno what we are going to call her. Maybe "idol?" I guess that fits.... So this weathergirl is the first ever "idol," which is unfortunate beacuse if there had been other "idols" she could have learned from them the lesson that it's a bit tricky when your career is creating parasocial relationships with millions of socially malajusted men. But she was the first, ever! So it's not like she could have even learned from the example of others... Poor girl never had a chance.
@fraskf6765 23 күн бұрын
@@user-ef5ug6jx5n😂
@LuckfortRosenqueen 20 күн бұрын
Thats china.. not japan
@GravyTheAwesome 3 ай бұрын
She retired from the channel yesterday. Good for her, I hope she's doing fine.
@McShag420 3 ай бұрын
Soon to be a millionaire OF model.
@PeamaSxh 3 ай бұрын
@@McShag420what
@xkarasu9705 2 ай бұрын
@@McShag420 Even IF she decided to, why do you care? 😂
@wellthisisinteresting4912 2 ай бұрын
@@McShag420 found the incel
@fukunaga-kane 2 ай бұрын
@@xkarasu9705nah you’re pathetic on this part
@MaidenLoaf 5 ай бұрын
Lived in Japan for a year. It's a really cool place to visit but so much about the culture is messed up and it's like nobody (domestic or foreign) wants to even talk about it.
@princessdollgf 5 ай бұрын
Spill the tea, ruin my rose-tinted glasses
@emanggitulah4319 3 ай бұрын
You will get sued if you talk about it
@sumirunihon 3 ай бұрын
@@emanggitulah4319dude what are you talking about no you won't
@pietrocastelli3599 3 ай бұрын
@@sumirunihonUnder Article 230-1 of the Criminal Code of Japan: “(1) A person who defames another by alleging facts in public shall, regardless of whether such facts are true or false, be punished by imprisonment with or without work for not more than three (3) years or a fine of not more than 500,000 yen.” cit google
@fauxbugnl9968 3 ай бұрын
@@sumirunihon defamation laws in Japan allow you to sue someone for defamation even though the statement is wrong.
@procrastinates 11 ай бұрын
I genuinely don't understand how anyone can be so obsessive over one Japanese woman that has a zero chance of ever going out with you.
@arvinsim 11 ай бұрын
It's just the same phenomenon as OF simping
@chinesefo0d811 11 ай бұрын
@@arvinsim this right here is facts ^
@mozzarellamaniac6300 11 ай бұрын
That's how simping works
@3dreamsequence 11 ай бұрын
Idols are an entire subculture in Japan. It's a big thing.
@_sandy_ 11 ай бұрын
@@arvinsim i don't get that either though. it all just feels weird and is sad :(
@trame5264 9 ай бұрын
The car guy is like a mythological figure: - He was there when Saya got popular - He came when the news broke out and helped - And he still comes to the meet up after all that happened Trully, a dedicated man
@ConanOG 9 ай бұрын
Simps
@OMFGcatakid 9 ай бұрын
That’s a truer fan than i’ve ever seen before.
@manusiabumi7673 9 ай бұрын
He's a fan, not a simp
@Leto_0 9 ай бұрын
@@manusiabumi7673 lol he's the definition of simp
@DiegoTan66 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like a genuinely sweet guy (while it's still a bit weird he obsesses about that girl so much for such a long time). Oh well, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.
@eyesofthecervino3366 7 ай бұрын
Nothing makes me lose sympathy for these "vulnerable men" faster than them saying, "This seems like a deliberately exploitative business model. _Let's take it out on this random employee!"_
@zehaoli330 5 ай бұрын
i mean women do the same with male idols in asia. There is reason why there are policies where idols need to remain single and are not allowed to be in a relationship. It is because the companies are monetizing their image as a perfect partner to make money. Nothing to do with being man or women. And i also don't feel bad for people who blame the company for themselves paying thousands of pounds on a parasocial relationship and then blame other people for their own actions. If you want to be in a parasocial relatonship then okay but don't blame someone else if the other person don't like you back.
@1337Shockwav3 5 ай бұрын
And that's why the problem is likely gonna stick around. Not like "sex sells" isn't a thing in the rest of the world. Not like their actions should be anywhere near accepted.
@IdontusemyName 5 ай бұрын
@@1337Shockwav3 That's basically the gist of it. If you marry/get a girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever. When your job has a target audience of Simps, you cannot say that the views shouldn't go down or they do not get mad. Simply, its best she just quit her career here or go to a news website that doesn't cover this. The reason people watched the news was cuz she was single and cute. Not because she is good at doing the weather. For example, why do u think almost no one watches the news as someone who is single? Its because they have no reason to. No one is good really targeting them. Japan knows this and are targeting them but it also means that their views could plummet if something like this happens.
@hibidittschmid-schmididdit2387 4 ай бұрын
They're mentally vulnerable and are easily sprung into destructive action because of it. They feel lonely, hated, shunned and abandoned and take it out on themselves and others which imo is what makes them pitiable because that ain't no way to live and I wouldn't trade my life for theirs any day of the week. Victims can be dangerous and make others victims of them because of it, it is important to adress both the hurt that they cause others and the hurt they themselves have endured to make them act in such a way.
@Jamietheroadrunner 4 ай бұрын
Japanese Incels make American Incels look like Chads
@kessibabanee7776 6 ай бұрын
I was stalked and the person who stalked me also loved watching saya short videos. After realized I already had boyfriend, he acted differently and with so much hatred towards me. Now I understand! Thank you. It was horrific like he told me he was my fanboy and wants to support me as a creator. I was devastated that I believed he supported me because of content i was going to publish😢
@user-cv2vo5wn9m 4 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry you had to go through that. That must have been horrible :( I hope that never happens again!
@leethal59 4 ай бұрын
You probably led the stalker on
@awesomeirlable 2 ай бұрын
That’s awful! I’m sorry to hear that you’ve been going through that. As a female content creator myself, it’s super disheartening hearing about the harassment a lot of us face simply for existing
@emerson4140 2 ай бұрын
@@leethal59excuse me?? People don’t ’lead their stalkers on’. People who have stalkers are VICTIMS of unwanted attention!
@alexxC37 11 ай бұрын
Saya is almost 30. Is she never supposed to get married and have children? She’s just supposed to grow old alone? It’s ridiculous.
@TextboxGp 11 ай бұрын
wait she's 30, i guess being a sunshine has benefits
@poweroffriendship2.0 11 ай бұрын
Well, it looks like she never get the Christmas Cake for that.
@ImCurrentlyNaked 11 ай бұрын
Misery loves company after all.
@Carlosgsan 11 ай бұрын
I agree.
@welkingunther6930 11 ай бұрын
MEOW
@user-kx7eu9lt3n 11 ай бұрын
I think this is just another symptom of the loneliness epidemic in Japan and around the world. Without close, real life relationships people fall (or increasingly are lured) into these parasocial obsessions. Not surprisingly, when the illusion breaks, they feel betrayed and lash out with the intensity of a wounded lover.
@ddwkc 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it feels like wounded lover, but it's more like a wounded customers. They just lash out like Karens and jump ship. The sadder part is the "idol" losing income because of that and/or company forcing them to apologize/save face for the company.
@zoroasper9759 11 ай бұрын
Yes the west has this issue too, and quite a lot, it's just that it's generally confined to internet celebrities like streamers or Only Fans girls The amount of guys who will send tens of thousands of dollars to streamers thinking they are actually together romantically is astonishing
@fattiger6957 11 ай бұрын
And it is only helping along the population crisis in Japan. Japanese culture really needs to figure out how to convince people to start having real relationships again. Hell, the whole world does.
@098saw 11 ай бұрын
there was a poll on the weather news show, where people were asked what they wore for their coming of age ceremony- a suit, a kimono, etc. I think half the respondents didn't even go to the ceremony. the coming of age ceremony is similar to a high school graduation in vibes and atmosphere. so the weather news watchers are especially on the nerdy side.
@faenethlorhalien 11 ай бұрын
Japan's population is plummeting and it's of their own making. Women have WEIRD as fuck expectations: they want a hot, skinny, "manly" (to the, it means he looks like a K-Pop singer) young and rich (at the very least 6 million yen a month) man, or they won't even entertain the idea to marry one. There are statistics that show that 33% of Japanese young women won't even date you if you don't make at least that much. And then men, well, I mean, they're mostly herbivores, because their society puts "keeping the peace" above everything, but in order to find a woman you have to be a bit of a dick at times, as many women, even if they tell you they don't, they LOVE a bad boy. And Japan is not a society of bad boys. It's a super conservative society (in terms of relationships and sex) in which no one knows what they're doing themselves, have weird expectations of what a man or a woman should be because of media (and not just anime or idol culture, most of what they suffer from is what they learned watching hollywood movies with happy endings with rich handsome actors). And, as with EVERYTHING, here, in Japan, as long as the system has not totally collapsed, no one will do jack shit (and by the time they do something, it will be too late), so nothing changes. Maybe instead of treating women as second class citizens, as a trophy for successful men, maybe they should encourage them to be independent and have a career, and show them that they can be in positions of power in companies and governments as a rule, not as an exception. Maybe instead of treating men as automatically guilty until proven innocent when a woman yells "PERVERT!" on the train believing she has been groped, or because she's feeling like destroying the life of some poor sod, maybe instead of that, have a society in which it's taught from VERY EARLY that women should be treated as people, and that it's OK TO BE A MAN too. Fucking hell...
@prithvirajsrinivasan1077 Ай бұрын
Karina from the K-pop girl group Aespa also faced same kind of backlash when she confirmed a rumour about dating an actor. Although some supported, the fans had issues over age difference. She was 24 and he was 26. They broke up a week later due to the hate online.
@TOTN17 6 ай бұрын
The whole Idol thing in Japan is fucking creepy.
@omusubibi 9 күн бұрын
idk if you've seen the movie 'perfect blue' but it'll definitely validate that for you lol
@crackgoat9780 11 ай бұрын
The idea that the guy who put Saya on his car had to tell other people to be more rational and less fanatical is hilarious. Not to be mean to the car guy because besides the car thing being a bit weird he seemed respectful enough.
@Tine_of_Nice_Dreams 11 ай бұрын
A fan who goes to extremes and makes a spectacle but knows it's wrong to think anyone owns her is a good guy. I would take 100 fans like that over a single fan who seems normal but feels like she owes him her life.
@ZerdsJames 11 ай бұрын
Honestly the crazy car people are usually fairly chill. I've met a couple of them at anime cons and they have hardcore idgaf attitudes. Guess you have to have that attitude if you're gonna wrap your car in half naked anime girls.
@ltb1345 11 ай бұрын
@@Tine_of_Nice_Dreams True.
@ArlindoBuriti 11 ай бұрын
And people wonder... how the fuck the kamikaze was a thing? this bro... this dudes, if they were in WW2, they will fucking die for the cause.
@mfaizsyahmi 11 ай бұрын
@@ZerdsJames They're married to their cars first and foremost. The wrap is literally that; just the exterior.
@yukiyama87 11 ай бұрын
I'm surprised and happy to see that her company actually backed her up. I figured they would drop her as soon as they saw their share prices drop. There must've been a lot of pressure to fire her, but they didn't, and they handled it tactfully.
@FalconWindblader 11 ай бұрын
Any company who's into idol creation business would have to face shit like this sooner or later. the more you cash in on such a business model, the more severe the flak when things do go south. but then again, given the entertainment scene in Japan has been fraught with shit like that for decades, such companies would usually be more than ready to handle shit like that. the way the event actually memed the shit outta her for shits & giggles, shows that the company sending a very clear message to her haters: "We don't give a shit about what you losers think. our girl here is far more precious & valuable to us than any of you shitheads would ever be."
@skilletpan5674 11 ай бұрын
I think the share price would have tanked more if they got rid of her. The initial tanking was due to the perceived loss of followers. Not all of her followers left.
@gordons-alive4940 11 ай бұрын
Hopefully this is the beginning of a change in the culture. Media shouldn't be pandering to such an unhealthy attitude in fans.
@johnnymcblaze 11 ай бұрын
@@gordons-alive4940Lol, you have no idea about the media if you think they are a positive in ANY regard.
@theobserver9849 11 ай бұрын
If they didn't it would have sent a bad signal to the other ladies.
@VGLounge 7 ай бұрын
6:49 So that's how you say "simp" in Japanese
@Seiji857 7 ай бұрын
Perfect Blue
@jaythatguyyouknow5135 9 ай бұрын
So let me get this straight, the simps in Japan have so much power that a female “Idol” shaved her head and apologized after spending the night at her BF’s place? That’s crazy AF dude.
@Tomoesong 9 ай бұрын
It's japanese social responsility and honor or something like that. Weird yeah. For example in Japan if crooked politicians caught or accused for crime they quickly ask apology and resign from their high positions and prepare for judicary fight. So stupid because in my country politicians eat everything and it's like normal behaviour. "Oh they divided another million among themselves? Oh well they are politicians after all".
@jaythatguyyouknow5135 9 ай бұрын
@@Tomoesong yea, that all sounds pretty wild. I guess craziness manifests differently depending on where in the world you are. Makes me wonder what other kinda weird stuff like that goes on we don’t know about.
@ayanned 9 ай бұрын
As it should be going to dabble in this industry either you graduate as a whore or become nun in a monastery.
@baddie1shoe 9 ай бұрын
It’s really nauseating, right?
@MollyHJohns 9 ай бұрын
These no-lifers obsessed over their idols as if they own them (because they spent their life and time and paid for their popularity or career). It's creepy but that's how they do it.
@DrBreyn 11 ай бұрын
I've never seen someone or a company in Japan handle a dating controversy so so well! My goodness. Big respect for them! They are not ashamed of her, support her, do not force an apology
@KY-ki1vt 10 ай бұрын
I was like yeah!! but then i was like wait is it because the entire weather company is of females or..?
@mohammadbilal4860 10 ай бұрын
@@KY-ki1vt I think only the cast is full of women, but I'm pretty sure there are men involved in the executive body of the company.
@Kokudou_Risa 10 ай бұрын
Hololive
@CrizzyEyes 10 ай бұрын
@@Kokudou_Risa HoloLive doesn't have to deal with this because their talent's identities are supposed to be a secret.
@hikashia.halfiah3582 10 ай бұрын
Hopefully it continues for the trend for companies to side with the idol side a bit more like this.
@kahoonatownadventures7529 7 ай бұрын
10:39 man on the bottom right full recording the whole event to rewatch it at home later.
@glencoconut 28 күн бұрын
'I don't want to be a fan of an idol with a boyfriend' i can't imagine only enjoying artists because I find them attractive and saying they can't fall in love with anyone. like what do you expect them to fall in love with you specifically? fandoms dont want people that creepy anyway
@deadtonk5527 10 ай бұрын
The man who wrote "it's not about not dating but hiding it" is a piece of work. Idols/celebs do hide, but people DIG EVERYTHING they can to satisfy their parasociality. Where is the line ???? They can date but can't go anywhere and do anything outside ? How is that a relationship ?
@Berrybamboo112 10 ай бұрын
That’s just so dehumanizing and manipulative. Suggesting that someone can date as they please *as long as* it follows strict rules set by a third party.
@hikashia.halfiah3582 10 ай бұрын
Just don't get caught. The only rule is, if you get caught you are done. People digging around or not, just don't get caught. Sure eventually you are going to be found out, but it should be feasible to hide it long enough until the time you feel like "retiring", for idols that mean probably 30ish at max, which is the age people these days marry anyway. Just treat it as a win if you can hide it until you are 27 or 30. So it's not a losing game.
@Viewer13128 10 ай бұрын
The key thing is don't get caught after trying to trick your fans (based on info in this video) by saying you have no experience with men because men are scary. it's fine to keep a low profile, but lying about your fear of men while dating a racket smashing violent man? Best is to be open about the dating. Second best is to be private but admit it when it's not possible. Worst is to try to hook in your vulnerable fans by lying and acting in a way that you know works at deceiving them. All those cute acting have a different meaning once you know she was tricking them on purpose with that innocent sounding lie. If the things shown in this video are all true, then it's quite disturbing that she lied to them and acted all cute with the intention of seducing these vulnerable fans.
@TheBigExclusive 10 ай бұрын
I'm not saying Saya doesn't have a choice to date, but isn't this what Saya signed up for? When she auditioned, she knew the "rules of the game" in a manner of speaking. She wasn't ignorant of what was expected of her. 1. Act cute and portray a persona publicly. 2. Cultivate a fan following. 3. Reap the financial rewards of gaining a ultra devoted fanbase while maintaining her image. The video pokes fun at "lonely fans", but these fans play a huge financial role. Let's not forget. The stock price is largely because of them. I don't make the rules of the Japanese idol industry. But it seems like Saya wanted the best of both worlds. Streaming fan support and being able to date. I think it would have made more sense if Saya retired from her role first, then announced she was dating someone. That way Japanese Saya fans wouldn't feel so Betrayed. Also, don't act like the no dating rule doesn't apply to the West. Many female streamers avoid talking about or discussing if they have a boyfriend on stream. They hide it. The moment they announce they have a boyfriend, they follower count falls to rock bottom. It's happened to many Western female steamers.
@sellingacoerwa8318 10 ай бұрын
Japan sounds like it sucks in alot of ways, weebs be damned. The combo of ultracringe parasocial sick guys and thier creepy sense of entitlement is just unbelievable
@hondai 11 ай бұрын
The fan meet handled her situation so well. Glad to see that they are supporting her. She doesn't need anymore stress added on.
@NestlaysChaulkolateChips 11 ай бұрын
It's great that they didn't force her to apologize as if she'd done something wrong. Really cool that they could just make jokes and diffuse it. The outrage is essentially a part of cancel culture, and that kind of stuff needs to stop.
@DJ_POOP_IT_OUT_FEAT_LIL_WiiWii 11 ай бұрын
I thought she was off because impregnated and ballooned up
@zznug2837 11 ай бұрын
@@NestlaysChaulkolateChips No bro, what needs to stop is these massive corporations preying on emotionally vulnerable people men or women and then pretending that they are not doing that.
@ricksanchez6766 11 ай бұрын
@@zznug2837 Oh so harassment is cool if a girl has a boyfriend? Get out of here with your incel take.
@narusawa74 11 ай бұрын
Japanese culture and morals are very different from western culture. The local audience expect professionalism, not goofing around. Its how they see it in Japan and we should respect it. Maybe she should move away to another country where it'll be seen as cute and funy? Also I Japan, 30 and not married is also a bad label, like she failed to attract a good husband so she must not be a good woman and potential wife. She should emigrate elsewhere otherwise shell be shuned
@xmlthegreat 6 ай бұрын
Phew at least it didn't go as bad as the last time we heard about this. And the Ikura-don : Wimble-don pun was fantastic. Incredible work from that guy.
@archaeopteryx981 6 ай бұрын
“This whole situation is obviously completely foreign to people unfamiliar with East Asian Idol culture. Western celebrities are free to have romantic partners.” This isn't entirely true-certainly not historically. John Lennon’s first marriage and son was kept a secret because it was feared that Beatles fans would turn against them. During the Golden Age of Hollywood, actors had clauses in their contracts that would penalize them for getting married or having children for the same reason. This led many female stars to have abortions for the sake of their career. There are still celebrities today-particularly ones with a young fanbase-who have been encouraged to keep their relationships secret. It’s also a known thing among popular women in the streaming community that they will lose followers if it comes out that they are in a relationship.
@andy2641 4 күн бұрын
Eh. It’s really just streamers but Twitch viewers are a very small portion of the population and an outlier. Even then, there’s not that much backlash when they do get a bf. But usually relationships make them more popular. Think taylor swift and travis kelce. They can even cheat and no one cares (ariana grande and taylor again)
@usgovernment182 11 ай бұрын
The actual true definition of SIMP. This is insane to me. Imagine having no hope or joy in life anymore because a weather girl that you never had a chance with got a boyfriend.
@alukuhito 11 ай бұрын
And it's natural. People, male and female, idolize others and want them to be perfect. Being an idol is a dangerous thing. You're famous and making money off of people who literally idolize you. You're dependent on that craziness.
@Ecan26 11 ай бұрын
@@alukuhitotrue.. thats basically explain us the human.
@user-ip1hs6ki7x 11 ай бұрын
This happens on other platforms as well (Twitch, YT), without a doubt happens more to girls- but guys cop it as well. Para-social relationships are a real thing, and it's on the edge of "I like this person's work" towards "I wanna date this person". Imagine watching someone, and thinking you KNOW them! Fuck me dead..
@MrWolfy08 11 ай бұрын
i was tnking that...this is simping
@OrbitalVibes 11 ай бұрын
You can't say her fans didn't have a chance, just look at her boyfriend! He's below average in looks and even lower in everything else! That small penis game won't pay his bills for long and one day she'll leave him for someone else. Cuz that's the nature of women!
@dailyminimo8867 10 ай бұрын
Im happy her company managed the situation properly, without blaming her for having a life. And the real fans were at the event, that's amazing. Better than having a bunch of delusional stalkers hanging around these poor girls.😊
@InAHollowTree 10 ай бұрын
The situation with the girl that was forced to shave her head and “repent” made me so sad and sick. So awful that her agency would do that to her over strangers whining about her personal choices. incels need to get a life.
@aquaseahorselove3939 9 ай бұрын
@@InAHollowTreeIt's as though instead of them getting a woman in real life and controlling her, the incels sit in the shadows and control the women from afar.
@lifeline_ 9 ай бұрын
... I find these comments and replies to be fascinating... Order of protective insticts: 1. Protect the girl (makes sense unless she was intentionally exploiting these men) 2. Protect the corporation/business that created a business model of exploiting those men at the expense of the stars and the men. Screw the men who are seen as outcasts and get addicted to parasocial relationships, which just reinforces their inability to socially adapt but makes the businesses money. Glad that we see men that fall behind (albeit who also do scummy things as a result) as less human than exploitative businesses...
@JustAStranger2840 9 ай бұрын
@@lifeline_ Yeah. At this point I think if they don't take this as a reality check to get help, I don't think there's anything that can help them be human again. Like the old saying goes, you can bring a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
@rasurin 9 ай бұрын
@@lifeline_ There's nothing making these men inherently do this shit... gtfo
@reillyd.4753 5 ай бұрын
Did not expect to see Adam Friedland pop up at 5:47
@Daniel-ln1lz 7 ай бұрын
This weather woman Saya has her way of reporting the weather. Fun and creative.
@Gogito4 11 ай бұрын
The fact that this ended with her still having a job and people letting it fo is weirdly wholesome compared to what usually happens. Baby steps!
@shyviekay449 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, while this probably won't be the new norm overnight. It's great to see the negativity stayed online and the real world situation just handled it with some banter. Hope her keeping her job and the weathershow hopefully being fine can lead as an example to the industry.
@Redmanticore 10 ай бұрын
didnt even have bomb threats, trying to burn down the building. pretty mature response, relatively speaking, in japan.
@ayanned 9 ай бұрын
She will be gradually phased out. Fast. Never underestimate a disgruntled fan's scorn or apathy.
@zulucruz664 11 ай бұрын
“unlike the previous caster who likes ikura-don, her favourite meal is wimble-don.” Someone please gives this man a raise.
@madisonevans7950 11 ай бұрын
god I laughed way harder at that than I should have
@franck-oq4jv 11 ай бұрын
BARS
@flatlander3963 11 ай бұрын
yeah i was like, am i losing my mind or is this actually a good joke?
@monkeydgoofy8074 11 ай бұрын
fr that was savage 🤣
@Inn0IWNL 11 ай бұрын
Guy needs to be promoted
@xraptor94x 6 ай бұрын
I do not know much about japan. I just knew that the work or also culture in general was quite different from the culture in my country (Germany) and to hear that is horrible to me. Not being able to live a normal life and not being allowed to make basic decisions without life changing consequences as a punishment must be hell of its own kind. At least it went relatively well in the end. That is a good outcome despite this weird circumstance. I hope that this kind of cultural attitude towards other people changes as soon as possible. (Though it may take a while in that case...) And thanks to this channel for making this video and giving a bis deeper glimpse into the Japanese work/ entertainment culture. And to say something nice: Have a good time Saya and live how you want to live
@Zimtanbau 6 ай бұрын
That "Itasha" Stagea looks really nice.
@GamingDad 10 ай бұрын
They handled the fan meet-up so well with the jokes, I'm so happy that she's still working for them and that they stood their ground as best as they could within their culture.
@fresh_dood 9 ай бұрын
Honestly the most wholesome part of this. Jokes are really good at disarming tensions and it's cool to see her company stood up for her.
@sodathejunker 11 ай бұрын
This is tragic and people are ridiculous to treat her that way… …but the tennis ball spamming during her stream is peak comedy.
@superninja252 10 ай бұрын
Its usual fans spam WN with emojis related to the caster in the moment One of the caster get a cow spam for some reason
@psychedelicyeti6053 10 ай бұрын
I can't believe you can comment on a weather channel. Imagine the beehive spamming bees 💀 or whatever other "stan" community that exists
@Fircasice 10 ай бұрын
It IS ridiculous BUT at the same time she could have been more honest beforehand. She deliberately hid the truth because she knew it would damage her popularity. She does bear at least a bit of responsibility for that mess.
@Jay9966 10 ай бұрын
@@Fircasice that's generally how idols work. They hide their personal relationships because it would impact their careers. Korean, Japanese and Chinese idol types all do that.
@valhatan3907 10 ай бұрын
@@Jay9966 but she isn't idol, she is weather reporter
@apersonlikeanyother6895 5 ай бұрын
While watching this I saw my first ever tennis ad. That's what KZfaq thinks is the important part of this video.
@jstiggs2002 7 ай бұрын
One of my favorite sayings is "you can do anything you want in life as long as you can live with the concequences of your actions".
@AJDraws 10 ай бұрын
This is creepy. Anyone who is that obsessed with someone should be kept as far away from them as possible
@hikashia.halfiah3582 10 ай бұрын
I think Japanese idols have pretty good security. They already know how rabid fans can be. Even something like handshake event seem strictly controlled.
@TheBigExclusive 10 ай бұрын
I'm not saying Saya doesn't have a choice to date, but isn't this what Saya signed up for? When she auditioned, she knew the "rules of the game" in a manner of speaking. She wasn't ignorant of what was expected of her. 1. Act cute and portray a persona publicly. 2. Cultivate a fan following. 3. Reap the financial rewards of gaining a ultra devoted fanbase while maintaining her image. The video pokes fun at "lonely fans", but these fans play a huge financial role. Let's not forget. The stock price is largely because of them. I don't make the rules of the Japanese idol industry. But it seems like Saya wanted the best of both worlds. Streaming fan support and being able to date. I think it would have made more sense if Saya retired from her role first, then announced she was dating someone. That way Japanese Saya fans wouldn't feel so Betrayed. Also, don't act like the no dating rule doesn't apply to the West. Many female streamers avoid talking about or discussing if they have a boyfriend on stream. They hide it. The moment they announce they have a boyfriend, they follower count falls to rock bottom. It's happened to many Western female steamers.
@hikashia.halfiah3582 10 ай бұрын
@@TheBigExclusive She being open about relationship after the leak is the way she retired probably. Plus she's already 30, so she already won the game.
@gristen 10 ай бұрын
@@TheBigExclusive honestly if i was a streamer id be glad if my numbers dropped from announcing i was in a relationship. id be absolutely thrilled to weed out any incels following me. i dont care if it my following drops, id much rather that people follow for my content then because they want to sleep with me. now that i think about it, i already kind of try to "thin the herd" in this sort of way. i run a social media account with a decently large following and one of my favorite things to do is posting something that i know will make at least one internet pilled idiot upset and watching my follower count drop. its very satisfying lol
@niallk9336 10 ай бұрын
The whole industry is creepy. Are you that desperate for fame and attention to sell yourself to an army of simps? That's what idols are. She can live a normal life any day she chooses to - and leave the idol business. This is the cost for being a talentless "idol" desperate to be the center of attention. Who is more pathetic here? The beta guys or the narcissistic girls? They deserve each other imo. I wish the whole idol business was destroyed. It's gross.
@PlanetYokoshima 11 ай бұрын
So happy for her that this ended peacefully. I don’t see how her successful life should stop because of a relationship because she deserves more, just her being herself is what’s unique I think.
@southcoastinventors6583 11 ай бұрын
Internet trolls are the same everywhere they are afraid of the light
@cinnahayat_2011 11 ай бұрын
@@Ggggggfefdff would you rather we call them disgusting incels? case we can call them that too
@user-xl5kd6il6c 11 ай бұрын
She's a weather caster, her popularity came from appealing to male fans Ppl can't really complain when she loses fans for getting married. You aren't entitled to having fans
@Person4649Person 7 ай бұрын
Dedication, omotenashi, cuteness, etc. has its drawbacks.
@MichaelJones-gh4lq 4 ай бұрын
thank you for giving saya's perspective, the "from your shoes"
@FatGuyInSpace 11 ай бұрын
SO WHOLESOME the event went really well, the guys that turned up are the real ones. So glad people understood and supported her
@DX-d 11 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 “understood “ understood what? That she as a human being has relationships with the opposite sex? 😂
@FatGuyInSpace 11 ай бұрын
@@DX-d Yes.
@znerrevned7715 11 ай бұрын
@@DX-dyes.
@RobotTechHead 11 ай бұрын
@@DX-d That she's a human being and has a life that doesn't need to be invaded. People are weird as fuck about celebrities/idols. Including westerners who gotta know all the details about an idol's personal life and relationships.
@nathanbarnhart7823 11 ай бұрын
I could see why you wouldn’t want to show up, if your goal was to shoot your shot. I wouldn’t have bullied her though. Quite beyond the pale
@luxshokk 10 ай бұрын
I never understood why you would want this no-dating rule. If an idol is not allowed to date, then she is single but still unavailable, because she's also not allowed to date YOU.
@nawa73 10 ай бұрын
Exactly
@ricex2 10 ай бұрын
hense the explaination of 弱者男性 (jakushadansei), with due repect, this is a term similar to incels, peeps who spent too much time on /r/redpill , so there is no point to make sense of them with "normal standard". tragically, there is a centain industy who prey on these incels, with commercialized idols, products that targets their pocket, one may say its just business, i say its dirty scam. nevertheless, this is a phenomenon of this era, when men rather spend their money on intangible stuff like anime/vtuber/onlyfans/porn, than actually go out and meet someone. just to be clear, I myself also dont touch much grass and have no prejudice or ill will on people mentioned above, its just sad reality, complicated time.
@bigbenhgy 10 ай бұрын
Crab bucket mentality. They now they will never get her or (most likely convinced they wouldn't get anyone else), so they want her to be in the same situation
@dominic667 10 ай бұрын
Same reason why woman think chad will keep them around instead of rail them and move on. Dellusion at its finest
@amayra2010 10 ай бұрын
dont use logic agaisnt me reeeeeeeeeeeeee
@r00tsrockreggae1 8 ай бұрын
I am not even particularly interested in these topics but your videos are so funny and well put together I can't stop watching. Keep up the great work!
@clemenx 6 ай бұрын
Oh god why am I seeing this video now. I used to watch the Weathernews stream A LOT a couple of years ago when it got viral in English sites. It really helped with the language. Shame about wotas being crazy as usual. Hope Saya does well in her relationship.
@epicdjyoshi648 11 ай бұрын
Bit confused about why people are mad she "made it public" she went to a public event with her boyfriend and was caught on camera. She didn't announce it, or make it public. Shame that so many people's lives seem to hinge on that of celebrities. What a sad state of affairs.
@abeidiot 11 ай бұрын
hopefully this marks a change because it seems to be a norm in east asia
@WookieWarriorz 11 ай бұрын
i think the whole thing is ridiculous too but going to an event with your bf is kinda showing you have a bf. Again nothing wrong with her having a relationship literally nothing at all.
@chinito77 10 ай бұрын
It's just Japan and it's stupid fetishes that nobody addresses yet produces a country full of mentally messed up folks. I constantly run into Japanese guys with no social skills. I tried talking to them but they are beyond help. Most of it starts with how much they get babied as children. Zero back bone, look at women as objects, and turn to odd fetishes to give them joy.
@tinklenipples9103 10 ай бұрын
Going to a public place or event and showing publicly that you have a boyfriend I believe qualifies as making it public, don't you think?
@mansnothot1284 10 ай бұрын
Agree. The 20% "fans" should just marry Hatsune Mikus and stay in their bubble than watch and worship weather girls. Seriously, she's already 29 and still they think she's not allowed to have a relationship. What sad lives those people live. At least the true fans still show support to her event even after all that crying from the other so called "fans". I know some japanese are weird but Jesus Christ! some of them needs to seriously get a life than worshipping a weather girl to the point they don't want her to have a happy life of herself.
@fynnfish 11 ай бұрын
With all of this I’m so surprised that Yuzuru Hanyu‘a wedding announcement didn’t experience bigger backlash. Even I was kind of shocked because he had such a „married only to his work“ image. I can’t believe he managed to keep his partner a secret for years, and now he didn’t make it public who his partner is….
@cottonclouds 11 ай бұрын
idk i saw some crazy takes from fans who said they were "disappointed" and that "the announcement didn't sound like him". maybe it feels like more people to me because i'm inside of the fanyu bubble
@hypnosismicrophone 11 ай бұрын
Mostly because people were shocked at how vague it was. Everyone was memeing it and saying it sounds like he got married to figure skating. All the jokes probably distracted people from getting mad. But recently a singer and seiyuu Soma Saito announced his marriage and insane fans posted about how betrayed they feel, so it'll never stop probably.
@liandoaethend2403 11 ай бұрын
My friend was like "NOOOOO" but then moves on, shes a big fan of this dud, even im whos not a fan is shocked as well "?! Holy sht no way"🤣
@_m_ishere.3555 11 ай бұрын
I find it funny that this Saya situation happened almost at the same time there was another big dating news between 2 real celebrities, Yuki Yamada and former Nogizaka46 ace Nanase Nishino. The latter seemed to get tamer reactions because Nanase isn't an Idol anymore and Nogi wotas like Yuki because he is already an acquaintance of Asuka Saito.
@espeon871 11 ай бұрын
Ngl i think the fanbase attachment is diff and maybe gender cldve played a part cuz in some idol spaces like its very psychotic regardless of gender but yuzuru's is like normal sports fanbase while hers is like idols' fanbase and at least in jp theres more cases of female idols being hurt more and not being able to survive after a dating thing more cuz of societal like fans' entitlement/industry mindsets like in terms of reported cases of insane fans it targets mostly women idols it seems so that might play into it like diff contexts and fan environment and culture
@jamesmarrel8087 2 ай бұрын
I'm French and I really like Hiyama Saya's weather program, very useful and fun. She does her job.
@iyasugames 2 ай бұрын
I used to watch Weather News Live during Covid lockdown. I had no idea it was such a popular thing. So bizarre that people would treat Saya this way
@jesustyronechrist2330 11 ай бұрын
We really need to start a massive campaign to help people deal with parasocial relationships. I swear, it will ruin our goddamn society.
@anna84259 11 ай бұрын
@@jash21222no, not really. Real relationships aren't going to fix people's psyche, it's not magic. Having a support system is important, but that's not everything. If having no real relationships causes someone to become obsessed with a public person, it's a mental health problem of theirs, not a relationship problem. And they probably gotta fix it first because there's no way you'll be able to build any healthy relationships, whether platonic or romantic, if you're unstable to this point. It's not normal for a relatively stable person with or without relationships.
@fastcow7013 11 ай бұрын
Already has
@i-never-look-at-replies-lol 11 ай бұрын
no the problem here is "simps"
@MadPutz 11 ай бұрын
Seriously - if too many people are wasting their romantic and reproductive potential on online delusions society will literally shrink and get worse as there are fewer people working, paying into benefits, developing new technologies, etc.
@CanalTremocos 11 ай бұрын
@@i-never-look-at-replies-lol In The same way we have structures to help alcoholics, which were a huge problem, we should set something up to bring simps into society.
@silverwave010 11 ай бұрын
Parasocial relationships are so unhealthy. These idols, celebrities, etc, are regular people at the end of the day. The thought of “having” a news anchor to yourself, who knows NOTHING of your existence, is frightening. It is literally the plot of the anime movie “Perfect Blue”. It’s ludicrous to think that Saya can’t date or marry anyone because of her occupation. Same goes for KPop stars, because I’ve seen stans lose their minds at the hint of their idol dating.
@gravyz2cute4u 11 ай бұрын
Exactly! No wonder there's such a high suicide rate. Pressure from your work life and also unable to have a normal private life is just too much :( Like, how could you date someone without getting caught in this day and age where everyone's got their phones on them? People still somehow recognise you even when you've got your entire body covered.
@sumukhgupta8481 11 ай бұрын
Sure the fans are lonely and messed up but how is everyone so oblivious to the fact that these news agencies and idol stars specifically target these kinds of fans to make money? Why is it only the fans' fault when they're been strung along by this level of malicious marketing? I get it, but people forget that it takes two to tango and that saya and her team are complicit in this lunacy by playing with the emotions of emotionally vulnerable and unstable fans.
@laughaway7955 11 ай бұрын
@sumukhgupta8481 you got a point there, it's especially true in Kpop, intentional or not, the idol business breeds parasocials. And once in a while, some incident or something will happen that gonna trigger the shįt out of the worst of them, and voila.
@proadlekopy 11 ай бұрын
let us just say they are stressed
@gladewings1192 11 ай бұрын
Dont you guys even realized that these kind of videos only emphasized the bad apple of like 10-20% of the fans to create a buzz of a topic. He shows the massive fall of the stock but its really just 7%(he even said 10%), he shows a massive drop of followers but its only merely 8k+ from a almost 400k followers its like yeah those 8k really fkng important thats not even 5%.
@SeungNam 5 ай бұрын
Okay, that Ikura-don and Wimble-don joke was amazing.
@E_M_O_Lizzie 11 ай бұрын
The fact there isn’t a no-dating rule, but they have to keep it hidden reminds me of the cheating issue in Japan 🤔
@THEBLACKGUY926 11 ай бұрын
THANK YOU!! someone knows that japan has a huge cheating problem
@kurogane2x 11 ай бұрын
I've heard there was a cheating scandalnthat involves orgies or something years ago.
@bingobongo1615 11 ай бұрын
The no-dating rules for idols arent great but lets not pretend this doesnt happen in the West. Remember how people lost their minds when Britney and Justin were rumored to date?
@azumishimizu1880 11 ай бұрын
Incels shooting everybody in America and Japan with a cheating issue. The world will never be perfect.
@adriankowalski5492 11 ай бұрын
@@bingobongo1615 Even better example: Remember that "Ok boomer" Latina girl in Bernie shirt? what happened when soy boys find out she had a bf?
@user-ih4ux8ch5x 10 ай бұрын
I am Japanese. Regardless of our cultural differences or respect, I can speak out directly against this exploitative and stupid society. In other words, I can't deny the idol business itself, but idols have their own way of life and stance, and I think it's too much to measure everything by fixed rules. They can choose what they want and what they want to do. However, the so-called "good-looking celebrities" that exist in the world are defined as idols regardless of occupation, and have blind and enthusiastic fans, and companies actively participate in their fans' business. There are many cases where By the way, did she want to be an idol? This is partly because idols are no longer recognized as a systematic profession. During the idol boom of the 1980s, it was a profession. Seiko Matsuda...Akina Nakamori...they were admired by almost everyone, and they would have been bashed ferociously depending on their behavioral principles. But that is within their expectations. Today's idol groups are in the fan-based business. That is not as common as it used to be. What is surprising is that she is not an idol, nor does she exist in the group. Despite this, she is criticized in the same way that idols were 40 years ago. This is ridiculous. Our society is good at protecting collective interests, but not so good at protecting individual dignity. 私は日本人だ。文化の違いやリスペクトは関係なく、私はこの搾取的で愚かな社会に対して真っ向から物申すことができる。つまり、アイドルビジネスそのものは否定できないけど、アイドルにはアイドルの生き方やスタンスがあるわけで、すべてを決まったルールで測るのは行き過ぎだと思う。彼女たちは自分の好きなこと、やりたいことを選べばいい。しかし、世の中に存在するいわゆる "顔のいい芸能人 "は、職業に関係なくアイドルと定義され、盲目的で熱狂的なファンを持ち、企業も積極的にファンのビジネスに参加している。というケースも少なくない。 ところで、彼女はアイドルになりたかったのだろうか？これは、アイドルが体系的な職業として認識されなくなったことも一因だ。1980年代のアイドルブームの頃は、職業として成り立っていた。松田聖子......中森明菜......彼らはほとんど誰からも憧れられたし、行動原理によっては猛烈なバッシングを受けただろう。しかし、それは彼女たちの想定の範囲内だ。今のアイドルグループはファンあっての商売なのだ。それは昔のように一般的ではない。驚くべきは、彼女がアイドルでもなければ、グループの中に存在しているわけでもないことだ。にもかかわらず、彼女は40年前のアイドルと同じように批判される。これは馬鹿げている。私たちの社会は、集団の利益を守ることには長けているが、個人の尊厳を守ることには長けていない。
@mjjjermaine 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your insights. I hope things can change for the sake of people’s autonomy
@Par-Crom 10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@giovanniprovost 10 ай бұрын
I truly believe that some of these people that lash out against idols such as the one in this video do not want her to be happy. They want her in the way that a child wants a doll, and that isn't healthy for anyone.
@HateMachinist 10 ай бұрын
It is not a trait unique to Japan though. In the west, we call them "simps", and we see on regular basis how well they take it every time it turns out that some internet-celebrity actually is not as singe and available as these sad people imagined. And the "idols" themselves are adults. They spent time and effort setting up these pseudo-relationships so that they can milk lonely people for money. Sooner or later the character is broken, and the simps never learn...
@Parker-- 10 ай бұрын
I think it's important to recognize the original meaning of the term idol, which is to mean, "a person or thing that is greatly admired, loved, or revered." While she may not be a part of a jpop group, she is idolized by her obsessive fans and people who idolize others are wildly irrational by default. Idolization is always going to be a possibility when chasing celebrity status. I would say a fair portion of celebrities actively chase the gratification of idolization from others. None of it is healthy, but it shouldn't be surprising either. Her career and success, whether it was her original intent or not, was always going to be based on her celebrity status. She would bring in donations and get a nicer paycheck, etc. based on her value to simps. That's not to say she doesn't have real value, not saying that at all, but her monetary value to that audience was always going to be her TV/internet girlfriend status. Once that dream is shattered, her value to her fanatics vanished leaving them bitter and empty. To be clear, this is not a defense of the behavior, this is merely stating facts about how and why. It's a cultural problem that can happen worldwide (though I do think the targets of idolization is primarily Japanese and Korean women above most other groups).
@totalpartykill999 7 ай бұрын
just trying to imagine what a weatherwoman fan convention would look like here in America, if it existed.
@bruh666 2 ай бұрын
I know the bar is very low but I have some relative respect for Weather News for committing to her and keeping her and letting her join the event. At least there's no public shaming from their part.
@MiguelThinks 11 ай бұрын
Even as someone who's happily single I empathize with anyone who lacks the freedom to make life decisions just because of "industry norms". NOBODY deserves that.
@darth3261 11 ай бұрын
Who are you trying to convince being "happily single", others or yourself?
@JeromeProductions 11 ай бұрын
@@darth3261so what. Saying that doesn’t change much
@lee.as.in.l.e.e.7394 11 ай бұрын
@@darth3261 There's nothing wrong with being single
@kilbert666 11 ай бұрын
Who forced her to enter the field? Nobody. Not having a relationship becuase it'll inpact your viewership is just showbiz over there.
@anna84259 11 ай бұрын
@@kilbert666yes, and it shouldn't be that way. That's the point.
@dunetiger 11 ай бұрын
I feel like that fan meeting really defused the situation and put some humor on it. Kind of perfectly timed and well-handled. I'm really happy that the host company didn't punish her for being an adult woman. Never understood how poorly the idol industry treats its moneymakers.
@Nothing_serious 11 ай бұрын
Because it's overblown and is somehow only specific to Sayaka because she's popular. They already have a couple of weather reporters that are already married for example Ayaka Matsuyuki just returned from maternity leave last March or something and there was no controversy surrounding her.
@arsnakehert 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, well, Saya isn't "formally" an idol
@areareare9953 11 ай бұрын
The "Wimble-don" joke was pretty good.
@victor-oh 11 ай бұрын
It seems Weather News is in a unique position to exploit the "idol" image all while they're not actually idols, so those "rules" don't apply.
@xiiir838 11 ай бұрын
There's always more money makers. Japanese idol groups are not about the talented people, they can hired really bad singers, dancers and overall performers and that's the charm of the group, watching them becoming better with time and supporting them throughout the journey
@iuopunderstandyourjokes9914 3 күн бұрын
I love how "the car guy" plays a fairly big role in this story even though he's just a dude that ruined a perfectly good nissan stagea
@gaijinhakase1575 8 ай бұрын
The Wimbledon pun was pretty good lol
@C45p3r 10 ай бұрын
To get so mad over someone you don't know having a partner, is not only sad, but freaking creepy.
@SherLock55 9 ай бұрын
Simps, what are you gonna do? Fucking weirdos.
@aihina 9 ай бұрын
And this is what Japan touts as 'normal', but shit like this gets overlooked by everything else people adore about the country
@chettone8080 9 ай бұрын
It all depends if she faked her status all along. One thing is saying openly "im single"or "thats a mystery" and a whole different story is saying "i dont want to talk about my relationship status". Lies in Japan are not welcome at all (despite being a quite hipocritical society).
@ElainaMaruyama 9 ай бұрын
@@aihina Delusion weebs will be weebs. If Japan was so perfect then Aokigahara wouldn't exist for a start...
@ayanned 9 ай бұрын
continue to live in a blue pill world.
@steamgearxu2516 11 ай бұрын
To those who think her image was inconsistent, Saya's Weather News official profile literally introduced one of her hobby is tennis for years. Because of her mother was the manager of the tennis club in college. And the tennis player who is also like anime and manga very much, they met for the first time at an otaku place. See? Stereotype suck.
@EduardoHernandez-jl5qt 11 ай бұрын
That's true, those irrational people who claim that she never showed inclination to tennis, to men, and so on, never paid any attention to what Saya has actually said. I see people in the comments sympathizing with the creepy men, blaming Saya or the company for supposedly “selling an image”, but the truth is that Saya has been honest and the Weather News Inc. is not an idol enterprise (many of the weather casters are married and some even have children).
@kubli365 11 ай бұрын
She likes tennis? She's literally perfect bros 😭 Finna need to find a way to ruin her life for this transgression
@Novice9241 11 ай бұрын
Aaahh. As someone who just clicked on this out of boredom, I did wonder how that relationship came about. That sounds kind of cute actually. Shame that some people can’t accept her happiness.
@DiscoInferno 11 ай бұрын
@@EduardoHernandez-jl5qt 1:08 in this very video disproves your point. Source was somewhere in this stream from March 2023 - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b7mIdrSBp9i2pIU.html
@steamgearxu2516 11 ай бұрын
@@DiscoInferno 《檜山沙耶「オタク現場で知り合いました」交際発表後初の公の場 テニス西岡との出会い告白》 Saya said it herself and was reported by Japanese network news as well. People shouldn't miss this message if they don't just focus on the negative news
@milk_chemistry 5 ай бұрын
The normal thing to do when a idol wants to leave and having a boyfriend all that is to make a false claim that he or she is sick or something and will have to leave but may come back in the future, and it gives the fans some hope that he or she will come back even tho they never will, for the first few years the idol will have to walk around incognito because otherwise they'll be questioned so they have to wait until they have been forgotten which takes around 2 years
@byttercandy 3 ай бұрын
1:43 i am in tears 😂
@Bhethar 9 ай бұрын
I’m so happy she’s doing alright, I was worried she ended up having to shave her head too. Fans should be happy for her, if you admire someone you want them happy, not miserable.
@ConfuzzledOwO 9 ай бұрын
Logically you're right but it's not that these men 'admire' her per sey... they're just creepy and developed the selfish mindset of "unless it's me, no one can have her" on a mass scale. They dont actually care about her wellbeing
@anicjan4654 9 ай бұрын
@@ConfuzzledOwO It goes both ways. The entire cultivation is so they can predate on the loneliness and specific poor mental well being of those men - the guy ones doe it too to women - People want to be loved and they want to be loved by someone who will prove to them that they aren't low value internally. This is true all over the world.
@ConfuzzledOwO 9 ай бұрын
@@anicjan4654 sorry I dont think I understand what you're saying. But needing a public figure to not have a life in order to give you a sense of self worth is very unhealthy and unfair to the public figure who at the end of the day is just a human being. While Jealousy for another persons happiness is a common emotion (and rather uncomfortable), it's not justifiable or appropriate ever to act out on those feelings.
@testacals 8 ай бұрын
@@anicjan4654 the fact a good looking dude or gal reacting to your comments would make you have a parasocial relationship with them is absurd in the first place
@sansukanaka 6 ай бұрын
they are frustrated because they can't get action, so they expect their fantasy idols to not get it either.
@han__nya 11 ай бұрын
Imagine living in a world were having your own private life is considered rude or disrecpetful to anyone. At this point this is just plain and simply bullying. Japan needs to put a stop to this attitude, being a fan doesn't give you the right to control the life of a person.
@karistartnotenough6358 11 ай бұрын
Why everyone think rude if we have own private life while they had their own problemo This era we are individual, we can do anything free for itself. We do what we love and not force anyone since everyone had different opinions
@cgeorge3785 11 ай бұрын
Who said that having a private life is considered 'rude' or 'direspectful' to anyone? I have no idea what you are talking about, and you are simply conflating things to heap on the negative stereotypes about Japan. What happened here was that Saya and the news channel made a concerted effort to promote her and all the other attractive newscasters to the general public as beautiful, single women. This is the fantasy all involved knew darned well would sell to the general public, full of lonely guys around the world. How many newscasters do you know of in the world where the station promotes their newscasters with a calendar and public meet and greets? There's a reason why Saya felt compelled to make a statement on the news channel program itself about her relationship. She knew she couldn't keep up the jig any longer. Say what you want about her obsessed fans (and I can assure you there were plenty of non-Japanese obsessed fans as well), but simply characterizing this as random bullying for the sake of bullying, or for having a private life, is totally false.
@vlad5042 11 ай бұрын
@@cgeorge3785i think bullying for having a private life is a fair assessment. doesn't it kinda come from a place of resentment for a lot of people, that they don't get to have and control her life, that attractive people of the opposite sex don't behave the way they want them to and they take it out on some celebrity theyve been objectifying when she/he "betrays" them by revealing she/he does things in their private life that they don't approve of or conflict with their fantasies? like idk its not random or for bullying's sake but i think it is bullying, deep down these people have to know that these people's relationships have nothing to do with them it seems more like taking out your frustrations on someone which is what bullying is a lot of the time, imo. it is annoying to make it out to be a japanese thing tho idk why people are obsessed with psychoanalyzing the japanese as a monolith when toxic parasocial relationships are obviously a super common thing pretty much anywhere that has celebrities and/or access to the internet.
@wiru48 11 ай бұрын
"oh no, Japan again so bad! they tell me it's bad so I'll believe on that!" grow up westerner, stop forcing YOUR culture in other culture and stop lying around.
@iandavidvillaloboswong5180 11 ай бұрын
@@cgeorge3785 I dont think theyve been promoted as single. When have you ever heard of single women working in the news? Normally theyre all mothers by the age shes in. Its not a surprise she is in a relationship, maybe the terminally online people forgot what normal television is like?
@thomassmith8140 Ай бұрын
"you're suppose to hide him from us!" she literally did this, she did everything she was suppose to, but the stalkers had to dig harder. Then got mad that they found exactly what she was hiding.
@hms3057 5 ай бұрын
Almost forgot this was about a weather news channel
@133col 11 ай бұрын
"Vulnerable men" - what a nice euphemism. We just call them simps in the west
@user-wy7mc6km7v 11 ай бұрын
Hardly a euphemism. The kanji of 弱者男性 literally spell out "weak person man". Can't get any more direct than that.
@karistartnotenough6358 11 ай бұрын
Or some perverted Otaku ?
@vulnerableguy1964 11 ай бұрын
It's used almost the same way as "incel" in Japan.
@UhOhUmm 11 ай бұрын
Japan is just further ahead, lonely men epidemic is only just starting in the west.
@kyle__dotme 11 ай бұрын
it's kinda cringe how "simp" became derogatory just bc western dudes who have toxic masculinity made it that way. just like how the word "sigma" also became cringe for me bc i notice a lot of incels using it. like if you openly show your support to a woman you get called a simp, but if you disrespect a woman you get called a sigma? aight-- no thanks. im from asia but not from jpn but vulnerable/insecure/lonely man sounds more fitting.
@johnbonjov1491 11 ай бұрын
The car guy coming in to defend her and the spamming of the tennis balls made me laugh so hard 💀
@tunsaree 6 ай бұрын
"...slept over at a man's house, the blowback was honestly insane." got me dying ngl
@ICantSplel 5 ай бұрын
Lmao, that Wimble-don pun was actually really good.
@ch4dix 11 ай бұрын
This isn't just for Saya but to every idol out there. You have made your careers making fans happy. I think you deserve to make yourselves happy in your own ways as well.
@kazedcat 11 ай бұрын
That is why idols graduate. They quit to pursue a quiet and happy married life. Fame and family don't mix just see the disaster of holywood families.
@ch4dix 11 ай бұрын
@@iridium8341 and don't be so sanctimonious about gatekeeping what makes people happy.
@Thesavagesouls 11 ай бұрын
@@iridium8341 wtf with that corporate bullshit
@andricisntreal5357 11 ай бұрын
@@iridium8341 dont be so narrow minded and think happiness is immature, u sound like u actually need it
@aldyzero6676 11 ай бұрын
@@andricisntreal5357 🤡
@steveknows_420 10 ай бұрын
These obsessed men are neither fans nor supporters, they are merely creepy stalkers. These ladies deserve to live their lives privately even if they work with public networks. And even if they hid the truth about their lovers, it's just them protecting themselves from these hateful entitled creeps.
@LevisH21 10 ай бұрын
people seriously take being a fanboy too far sometimes. and worshiping a celebrity is so ridiculous to begin with. I mean, I myself can like a celebrity for let's say acting or music but I could care less about their personal private lives. I'm not a damn creep or desperate to know more about somebody famous. and tbh, most of the time, idols or "heroes" are maybe a completely different person behind red curtains or off camera. basically extremely disgusting or complete assholes. in the US for example, that celebrity Ellen DeGeneres was exposed for being a complete assholes in the media because she treated her workers horribly.
@cyrax78 10 ай бұрын
I used think the same way you do but the reality is that this is how the idol economy works in Japan (and other parts of Asia). Unlike other types of celebrities, who earn income from movies, music etc. Idols are dependent on fans for income. Idol fans usually pay large sums of money for brief interaction with their idols (I think it was something like 10 seconds of interaction for each copy of a CD bought for AKB48). Those idols can make a living because they have individual fans paying for 100s or 1000s of copies of the same cd. Even the most obsessed fans of other celebrities (even Taylor Swift) would not do that. In other words in the idol economy the idols ARE the product (their talents in the performing arts are often very limited) and this "personal interaction/relationship" is what the companies are selling. The idols would be the last ones who want this behavior to cease.
@steveknows_420 10 ай бұрын
@@cyrax78 regardless of the income this sick industry can generate, one shouldn't just accept the fact that these women are being abused and objectified. And for you to say that idols wouldn't want this behaviour to cease, sounds like you're merely defending these creeps. Also, Saya Himaya is a weathercaster not just an idol. True supporters shouldn't order these women around just because they're paying. This creepy behaviour is not reality, it's madness. You used to have good sense, now you don't.
@cyrax78 10 ай бұрын
@@steveknows_420 1. I think you know people don’t watch that program for weather information. You can be the best weather caster in the world and they wouldn’t hire you. There is a reason she kept her relationship a secret while some other cast member of that program are open about their partners/kids. She doesn’t want to lose fans and the associated income. No one can “order” the idols to do anything. They can always just do whatever they please if they do not care about the income from “the creeps” 2. Lots of girls (and guys) want desperately to be idols but most don’t make it. Watch an idol production program like Produce Camp and you’ll understand. The “sick industry” as you call it is based on fan generated income and the idols are well aware if it and do their best to attract more fans to themselves (unlike artists who attract fans to their works). I think you are pushing your own values on these idols and their fans. No one forces anyone to be an idol, it’s their chosen line of work. 3. I replied regarding the topic while you replied with personal attacks which, again, reinforces your view that other people must conform to your values. To be clear, I think any type of celebrity worship is stupid, but that’s my opinion and I won’t judge others for how they spend their time/money. If this bothers you I wonder what your thoughts are on things like maid cafe’s in Japan.
@steveknows_420 10 ай бұрын
@@cyrax78 nah. You just showed us that you're one of the creepy stalkers I'm talking about. At least I have values, while you have a sick obsession. Count all you want, you're not gonna change the fact that you're a creep.
@prasheel_ashok_shetty 8 ай бұрын
The Weather News Company and the girl, both handled it quite professionally 👍
@meh23p 2 ай бұрын
3:21 “I thought she’d be at home gaming during her summer break” 😭😭😭
@RetroGamer99999 11 ай бұрын
I think this is the most disgusting thing about the idol industry. How can people be so obsessed that they expect them to be single forever? If I admire a person I also want them to be happy and being able to make their own life choices
@moonshineonsunflowers 11 ай бұрын
It's also the fault of the companies who feed on to that mentality and make profit off of it. So the fans think their insane beliefs are valid.
@FilHadi 11 ай бұрын
Also expecting them to be single forever is one of the causes of population declining.
@Sirciel 11 ай бұрын
@@FilHadiShe can only marry me not others!!!!!
@vintage_hart6392 11 ай бұрын
Same. If I have an Idol crush. I wouldnt have any problem if they're in a relationship. I want them to be happy and not lonely forever and kill themselves
@s4dm3t4l 11 ай бұрын
she aint even an idol tho😭
@noni4315 11 ай бұрын
I'm so glad that Saya got support at the fanmeeting! And i think the jokes probably helped to lighten the mood a lot.
@pinkyspark 11 ай бұрын
That was definitely a conscious move by the staff to try to de-stigmatize, I love it
@iHaveTheDocuments 11 ай бұрын
@@pinkysparkyeah the staff did it right by making light of it instead of trying to ignore it
@Chunkieta 7 ай бұрын
7:08 a nice touch
@galx3788 6 ай бұрын
Does anyone remember weather girl "Chika-chan" who always said "O-Hana Puresento Desu!" I think she worked for Odaiba Terebi?
@MaggieKeizai 11 ай бұрын
I'm a bit reminded of the weather girl on TV5 in France in the late 90s. She had a cult following, too, and apparently got the most marriage proposals by mail of anyone in France, ever. I don't think anyone got pissed at her for having a life, though.
@aw2584 11 ай бұрын
No surprise here, I mean compare historical and current additude towards sex, sexuality and relationships in France vs Japan...
@MrOverfloater 11 ай бұрын
oh they got pissed, i assure u. They just didn't have a public platform.
@IronFreee 11 ай бұрын
@@MrOverfloater It's harder to find virgin adultescents in France... and people have other things to do than being mad at someone for having a life.
@edwinhuang9244 11 ай бұрын
@@aw2584 In China(From my experience with my family at least), calling a male not a male is considered an insult. I could be wrong though.
@LinuxIsNotAnOperatingSystem 11 ай бұрын
@@edwinhuang9244 I don't get how your comment relate to the rest of the thread
@203rahman 11 ай бұрын
This is just so unjustifiably cruel. How can anyone make their public life their only reality. It already takes a huge toll on such celebrities when they lead double lives and now the same fans want them to not even have a personal life. It is just ridiculous.
@EmeraldAshesAudio 11 ай бұрын
The popularity of "Just don't get caught" in that poll was so depressing.
@Durzza 11 ай бұрын
I feel no sympathy for pedophiles celebrities sorry. But this is typical asian community herd mentality. Not a unique situation
@calfagra 11 ай бұрын
They should never have double life from the first place anyway. But they might not be gaining more fans. Because some are greedy to get more fans they start to lie and put fake personas. This kind of behavior from the idol side needs to be as ridiculed as fans behavior who don't know personal space. In the end it needs two to tango.
@starman275 11 ай бұрын
@@EmeraldAshesAudio thats just how it is, thats the main reason no matter how much money and fame they give you, its not worthy to my pov having to give up part of your life for that, also its not like idols(especially womans) are unware of that, they know how is this industry most of them and still choose it.
@sidjtd 11 ай бұрын
I hate the supporting audience that are like this, but idols are not entitled to other peoples money so if that is the audience they are catering to, then sadly what else is there to say about it? It’s not even a chicken and egg situation. The idol industry only exists because of the support base, so as much as I hate the support base and how they are, the idols wouldn’t even exist without them. Case in point is that they don’t have a career outside of “being cute”. Plenty female woman stars but they have actual other skills. And there are plenty skills to employ and learn.
@Hnter2200 2 ай бұрын
I really hope their stock went back to normal as well… I’m happy for Saya! Sad for Publicly Traded Japanese Companies that rely on Idols tho…. Talk about volatile! 😅
@ayumikamukura1041 6 ай бұрын
I Wish all the best in this woman's life
@CatsMeowPaw 11 ай бұрын
Hey, she's amazingly cute. We can all agree on that. But she cannot be in a relationship with a million men, and has her own life and happiness to achieve. Be happy for her that she's possibly found someone to settle down with. Please don't be obsessive about anyone.
@ireallycantthinkofaname4726 11 ай бұрын
Agreed
@matheussanthiago9685 11 ай бұрын
''what if we recreate Perfect Blue beat by beat, but in real life'' - Japanese men, for some reason
@ZerdsJames 11 ай бұрын
I cant believe people care this much about her personal life. I couldn't even make it through the whole video (no shade to the creator. Content is well made, I just don't care hat much about some weather girl lol)
@rodryguezzz 11 ай бұрын
"But she cannot be in a relationship with a million men" "No, not with a million. But with me though..." - Idol fans
@ilkat06 11 ай бұрын
Exactly, it’s super immature to be mad at her for this
@alexvig2369 10 ай бұрын
I remember Saya well. Even I was exposed to her through the KZfaq algorithm. This is so utterly ridiculous, but Japan's reactions to their celebrities being in romantic relationships is utterly insane. When I was in Japan, I stumbled upon a small local livestreamer I used to watch and asked to get a selfie with her, and she refused because she didn't want her fans to think I'm her boyfriend lol...
@hikashia.halfiah3582 10 ай бұрын
It's not really that ridiculous if you know the rule of the game. It's expected. And she probably already feel tired of it, and she seems ready to abandon that part of her image, especially knowing she's already 30, which is an age most idols already "retire". So she could be considered already won the game.
@TheBigExclusive 10 ай бұрын
I'm not saying Saya doesn't have a choice to date, but isn't this what Saya signed up for? When she auditioned, she knew the "rules of the game" in a manner of speaking. She wasn't ignorant of what was expected of her. 1. Act cute and portray a persona publicly. 2. Cultivate a fan following. 3. Reap the financial rewards of gaining a ultra devoted fanbase while maintaining her image. The video pokes fun at "lonely fans", but these fans play a huge financial role. Let's not forget. The stock price is largely because of them. I don't make the rules of the Japanese idol industry. But it seems like Saya wanted the best of both worlds. Streaming fan support and being able to date. I think it would have made more sense if Saya retired from her role first, then announced she was dating someone. That way Japanese Saya fans wouldn't feel so Betrayed. Also, don't act like the no dating rule doesn't apply to the West. Many female streamers avoid talking about or discussing if they have a boyfriend on stream. They hide it. The moment they announce they have a boyfriend, they follower count falls to rock bottom. It's happened to many Western female steamers.
@alexvig2369 10 ай бұрын
@@TheBigExclusive western streamers milking money from simps is a relatively new phenomenon. Those aren't traditional celebrities at all.
@niallk9336 10 ай бұрын
Not celebrities. Idols. These aren't the same thing. One earned their career, and has talent. The other trades sexuality and a fantasy for a career in the limelight. The entire idol phenomenon is built on selling a virtual relationship to simps. Everyone knows this - the simps and the idols. If your job is to sell a fake relationship to people, do you think it would harm your business to ... I don't know... be in a relationship ? This is quite obvious. Celebrities get married and such all the time. Singers, actors and actresses, tv personalities ... it's in the news and people are like "cool, Abe Hiroshi drew his fiance for the press lol"... and nobody cares. Ofc the simps are going to feel differently if they've been paying to subscribe to a fantasy being sold to them, and then find out it was all a lie. People react poorly when their fantasies and dreams, no matter how irrational, are smashed so callously.
@niallk9336 10 ай бұрын
@@alexvig2369 Saya isn't a celebrity either. Streaming took off in the 2010s. Idols took off in the 00s. So all we've learned here is a. You don't know what an "idol" is, and b. The West, as usual, lags behind The East by some decade(s).
@mrfurrutia 5 ай бұрын
Idol culture on japan can go from everyone adore you to crazy stuff like what happened to Mayu Tomita...
@toyue4201 11 ай бұрын
Whew happy to hear that nothing bad happened and that she still works for the weather reports. The fact that a big part of her fandom ignored her relationship is perhaps a sign of change of the previously toxic parasocial relationship of fans and idols.
@southcoastinventors6583 11 ай бұрын
Just goes to show that people who make mean comments on social media should always be ignored, now I just need to convince everyone else of that.
@ireallycantthinkofaname4726 11 ай бұрын
Yeah
@antimoba7778 11 ай бұрын
Vocal minority is a thing
@doualadaliso9676 11 ай бұрын
In my country there's a Anchor that beauty is amazing, recently she suffered domestic abuse by her husband. Story went viral. if u want to know, it's Zeda Salim, a Indonesian ANcHor, look her up
@HYDRAdude 11 ай бұрын
If there is no "toxic parasocial relationship" then there is zero reason for her fans to give her money, which means the entire business can't exist.
@shriramvenu 9 ай бұрын
its so unfortunate that such a sweet character like Saya be subjected to such unfair abuse and public scrutiny into what is just a humble personal life. Its sad how idol and otaku culture in Japan has developed to this excessive level that could surely have turned Saya away from continuing this career that brings joy to so many people
@frogmantoad8110 9 ай бұрын
Whhhaaaaaaaaa.
@SimSimi.ツ 9 ай бұрын
Japan's otaku and idol culture has not developed to an "excessive level" stop generalizing.
@drippinwet774 9 ай бұрын
every one of those people are individuals with opinions. some of whom paid for trashcasts. they have every right to speak their minds. after all, they are just opinions at the end of the day; not facts. Saya knows who she truly is and thats all that matters. She can easily wipe away those tears with a crisp Japanese paper Yen, I'm sure she has many a paper Yen to do so.
@siralpha6020 9 ай бұрын
@@SimSimi.ツexactly, it’s not otaku stuff, it’s the Idol industry’s norm and has been for over 40 years, as depressing as is, it’s nothing new
@ik-ki 8 ай бұрын
Dude she's dating a tennis star based on that depressing fanbase LUL
@someguy9388 5 ай бұрын
The fan meetup was a nice ending to this story
@levelupself 6 ай бұрын
What is the music used @1:57-2:35?
@rahulvishnu4426 11 ай бұрын
Saya made me realize, how important it is to know about Japanese weather everyday. Thank you, Saya. We all love you.
@Ritik_Nandan 11 ай бұрын
I thought either there are Japanese or Western men in the comments. It seems my country men are also in love with Saya.
@rahulvishnu4426 11 ай бұрын
Hamara saya apni Saya k sath hamesha rahega, mere pyare deshvasiyon!
@Shinobi33 11 ай бұрын
Cough cough simp
@Itoshimi 11 ай бұрын
@@Ritik_Nandancringe
@bob-wo3ir 11 ай бұрын
Saya saved my life back in Vietnam ..
@banjolasse6169 11 ай бұрын
This is the one aspect of asian culture/fandom that I just can't wrap my head around. How can you propose to be a fan of someone and then be mad when that person is happy? Thinking you know what's best for someone else is so disrespectful. Anyway, good of the co-hosts to make fun of the situation on stage. Better to treat it like the silly non-issue it should be rather than be silent about it.
@myonwontstfu 11 ай бұрын
It's not exclusive to them tho. Remember how simp became a popular word? There are people like that all over the world, I personally know a guy who donates big time to smaller female streamers to ask them to meet him irl, and he's otherwise a fine dude
@Theydas 11 ай бұрын
Japanese men are weak, miserable and lonely.
@kazegarasu4704 11 ай бұрын
Since when is this an Asian culture?
@meisrerboot 11 ай бұрын
Way more than just asian culture lmao, look at any twitch streamer for example. Basement dwelling losers create these parasocial relationships with women online all the time.
@brambl3014 11 ай бұрын
Me too, but I guess some people are just built different Or might be a very vocal minority
@yokai_G 7 ай бұрын
omg, i can’t stop laughing 😅😅😅🤭. As someone who lives in the UK, it’s interesting to finally find out who some of these japanese foreigners at Wimbledon really come from 🤣🤣🤣 this’s too funny 😹 ps: i’ll be waiting for that air purifier with your voice on 👀😅😅😅
@AnimeExceptionalism 5 ай бұрын
Great video! I hate that idols & K-Pop & J-Pop singers have to have that 'No relationship' rule. They should be free to date who they choose.
@vocassen 11 ай бұрын
Very glad to see that in the end, it was only the loud minority, though they are the most harmful, seeing the event go so well was heartwarming. Unfortunately, in the online sphere, I've seen a lot of good things destroyed by such loud minorities, whether it be about "no dating rule" or other matters normal people just don't care about
@jms5c8 11 ай бұрын
Japs are so weird
@valhatan3907 10 ай бұрын
It's always the goddamn loud negative people. I hope we as the majority of people with complete sense should be louder. Or, those people are loud because they're have no productive things to do, meanwhile people with sense not engage with bullshitery and prefer productivity 🤔
@Nabo42 11 ай бұрын
Hearing that Saya is in a happy relationship made my day. She seems like a nice person and I hope things work out for her.
@alukuhito 11 ай бұрын
How happy do you really think it will be with a guy with a tantrum like that? He literally has public outbursts. I'm guessing she's had little experience with boyfriends in the past, and she probably doesn't have a lot of time with him, so doesn't really understand how the relationship will go. There aren't really any happy pictures of them together. Time will tell.
@jakebourassa 11 ай бұрын
@@alukuhitoyou a beta my dude
@alukuhito 11 ай бұрын
@@jakebourassa No. You are.
@finn4kill429 11 ай бұрын
@@alukuhito have you ever had a girlfriend?
@okamisamakun 11 ай бұрын
@@alukuhitook, weirdo lmao Fucking nerd 🤓
@kazuya99ace 5 ай бұрын
Have a good day~
@dizzlebizzle8424 3 ай бұрын
fan comes from the word fanatic. these people aren't to be respected.
@FaeiryneFaun 11 ай бұрын
The end is absolutely hilarious, it shows that they don't take these rude fans so seriously and is a great to help her brush all of it off too. I'm sure it had to be difficult to cause so much trouble for the company by just living a normal life, so reassuring her through jokes that it's no big deal is great
@HenryHoe 11 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the Wimble-DON joke
@jase276 11 ай бұрын
I'd honestly say it's cathartic. It shows who are the real fans who know what it is and it rids them of the toxic fans who don't know how to treat others. Thankfully, the real fans greatly outnumber the fakes. And by toxic, I don't mean those upset, I mean, I get it, you like a woman and it sucks to see her with someone else. By toxic I mean those thinking they had ownership over her and she can't live her own life without them and harass her over it.
@fonesrphunny7242 10 ай бұрын
I'm not sure the jokes were meant for her. By turning the controversy into jokes, combined with a fun show, it "disarms" the situation for the viewers. "Look everybody, it's not a controversy, but something we can laugh at." After all, the studio wants to retain as many fans / viewers as possible. That said, she was most certainly briefed on the jokes. Either so she can play her role in the show, or at least to make sure she's okay with it. I'd like to believe it was just done for her sake, but that seems unlikely considering the culture and other major media outlets worldwide.
@j134679 10 ай бұрын
Yeah. Toxic fans are usually a minority. Even in sports. Cities would be burned to the ground if everyone started riots after every loss. It's just a very loud minority both online & offline that make things toxic.
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