Japanese pitch-accent and pronunciation lessons: www.patreon.com/dogen

WOWOWOW I CANT BELIEVE IT!!! Thank you soooo much for reviewing my Japanese!! I don't believe I'm there quite yet but this was super motivating to hear!!! ありがとうございます！！！相変わらず凄い勉強になりました！！！

For me, a native Japanese speaker, this series is useful for learning both of Japanese and English. You teach me Japanese deeper through foreigner's eyes/ears, which is so interesting. And I thank you all here for having interests in Japan!

1:42 This is a humble nod that I hear far too rarely. To state that "I am capable of helping you improve a skill which you demonstrate better than me" is, in fact, logically coherent, although many think otherwise. Whether an expert or not, I believe it's incredibly important to constructively criticise one another not as "someone who knows better", but as someone with a complimentarily different perspective. This is the kind of comment I would be reserved to give outside the context of philosophy, but you demonstrate an enthos reinforcing level of practical communication that I myself struggle to achieve, and I hope you continue to do so more often.

A common mistake that I often recognize is using like "申します" a polite style of Japanese, then using "俺" after it. "俺" is actually only used among friends and family...

I wonder how I can compliment people's Japanese without saying 上手 when they're really really good assuming they're watching Dogen san's videos lol

3年でこのレベルは凄すぎる...

First of all, Shū-san's Japanese sounds amazing. I would have thought he must have been Japanese, if I had heard his first few lines without knowing he was a non native speaker. What makes him sound a bit off is some of his word choice as Dogen pointed it out in the video. He started with polite Japanese, but he said "おれの日本語も直して欲しいなって", which cleared up my tiny doubt that he might be a native speaker. In Japanese, how to mention yourself reflects on your personality, and as Dogen says, you have to keep the consistency. 私の日本語 or ぼくの日本語 would be better and sound more polite. However, I repeat it again, his Japanese is so good. Japanese native speakers hardly end sentences by saying です・ます. He perfectly copies that nature, which makes him sound natural.

I'm starting to think these people coming to get critiqued are actually just flexing.

Can you grade the hardest pronunciation in Japanese next episode ... Katakana English

3年でここまで上手くなるのか……凄すぎる😱

地方のなまりのある日本人でも、このくらいのアクセントの人はたくさんいるので、ほとんど気になりませんでした！ 「俺」の使い方はたしかに注意が必要ですが、しゅうさんは独り言の再現として「俺」を使い、その後のどうげんさんへのメッセージの主語は「僕」に戻っていたので、この場合は適切な使用であり、むしろその切り替えが上手だと思いました。 文脈に応じて意識してアクセントを使い分けている日本語学習者の皆さんを尊敬します！

I'm a Japanese teacher. His pronunciation is good and very casual. ``おれ``は使う場面気をつけてくださいね〜

ええ？！日本語ネイティブじゃないの？っていうくらいうまいですね。びっくり！ 私も言語学習がんばります。励みになりました。

He's been studying for only 3 years?? He's so good! I need to speak more :(

正直日本に何年も住んでる外国出身の方より全然上手 ちょっと日本語忘れかけてる日本人みたいな感じ。His Japanese is excellent!!

子供の頃少年ジャンプの新刊号が出る日を楽しみにしていた気持ちでこのチャンネルを見ている

More common exceptions to the rule: 両親 (りょうしん) - 頭高 (1) 人生 (じんせい) - 頭高 (1) 半分 (はんぶん) - 中高 (3) 靴下 (くつした) - 中高 (2) 海外 (かいがい) - 頭高 (1)

日本語うますぎてびっくり、友達と話してる感じがする！

あとはしゅうさん、nihongoの発音もDogenさんが初めに例に出している学校、銀行などと同じピッチ？だと更に上手に感じます！日本人としてはこんなに細かい規則があるなんて知らずに話していたので外国人の方が日本語を学ぶのって本当に難しいんだなと思います。皆さん頑張って下さい！ そしてこう言う動画の英語版も見てみたいなーなんて。ここは日本語を学ぶ方のチャンネルだからか難しいですね💦

Sensei, you’re so humble. Thank you for sharing this!

I think it's one of the best advice I ever heard through my learning. I like the way you teach and how passionate you are to share your knowledge. I'll gladly subscribe to your channel, thanks for your work.

最初の人日本語上手すぎやろ、すげえな。

So much value in this video. Thank you for sharing!

This is so helpful thanks Dogen.

I can't thank you enough Dogen San, this series is so helpful and fun to watch

ur videos are so aesthetically pleasing

Even better lighting; congratulations on the continuous improvement!

Hellotalk is actually absolutely the best thing for beginners. I've learned most of my vocabulary and also pronunciations from it.

Dōgen, I love the colouring (or is it colouration? Colourisation?) of this series! The quality of the production, and of course the content, makes me very happy. I don't know Japanese, but if I do end up studying it I'll already know so much about pitch accent 😄

I’ve used HelloTalk before and I think i’ll use them again. Very helpful advice on there. Also, thanks for the education, Dogen!

I wouldn’t believe it’s really you, if I see you on HelloTalk😏 Like the one saying “本物？lol” at 10:40

Wonderful Japanese, goes to show how helpful it is to immerse yourself in native speakers' speech! Also thanks for the free tip, Dōgen-sensei! I can't believe how many words, so many of which are important and common, fall under that rule. SO helpful.

this was extremely useful, thanks!!!!!

DOGENさん、するどいです。 出だしが「申します」でしたね。 「謙譲語を使いこなすんだ。すごい」と引き込まれたところに、 「おれ」とかの表現で「おやおや」と、不思議な感じがして 注意がそちらに移りましたね

めちゃめちゃ上手いです。

Who else doesn’t or barely know japanese but is very interested in these videos? Always been a fan of japanese culture, language and history. Currently reading The Taiheiki: A Chronicle of Medieval Japan and I love it. Keep up the videos!

This video had the most relevant and probably the most useful sponsors segment in the history of KZfaq. Couldn't skip even 1 second of the video.

Hi Dogen, i only discovered your channel a few weeks ago, you have really enjoyable content! Regarding pitch accents, I've lived in Japan for 3 and a half years and had no idea that was a thing! From the words you used as examples, luckily it feels like I somewhat picked up the correct pitch accents unintentionally. It really great to know that's a thing so i can be conscious of it, thank you for your service! :)

this is next level advice thanks man.

It's so hard for me to imagine saying a word with no accent having grown up with a language with as strong a stress-accent as English

I am so glad to have this level of insight whilst beginning my solo study of Japanese. It is helping me avoid bad habits from occurring.

逆に日本語上手いですねと言われないレベル

VERY HELPFUL!

As a Japanese speaker, the most distinctive part from native speaker in his perfect Japanese is the very first thing that dogen sensei says, mixed polite way and casual way. Sasuga sensei...!

Me hearing this, wait どうげん is also four 🤔 Dogen can be added to the list

0:30 He ends the sentence with この動画を録音しています。録音 means recording but mainly for audio. Technically he is recording his voice, but he's referring the video that is being recorded so 録画 should probably be used instead. If you know the kanji, this shouldn't be too hard to remember.

自動字幕をつけて英語の勉強に使わせていただいております。

Thank you!

I don't even study Japanese lol but your videos are hecka entertaining and you inspire me to do a deep dive on Spanish phonetics, it being my second language. Keep it up, from a fan back in Seattle

Wow! The first video I found where you speak English! 😁 great video!

Dogen, you’ve got the best language channel on KZfaq, by far!

日本語のアクセントは外国の方からすると難しいかも知れませんね。　 日本人同士でも出身地や世代によって違う場合もありますし、「音楽」と「音楽室」といったように複合語になるとアクセントが変わる場合もありますし…

I really wish he did more of these videos.

omg lang-8, brings back so much memories!!! got me through a lot of my university days lol

A few more common exceptions to the 4 mora rule, which are all atamadaka: 今晩 - こんばん - tonight 毎晩 - まいばん - every night 毎日 - まいにち - every day 音楽 - おんがく - music 兄弟 - きょうだい - siblings 結構 - けっこう - 'I'm fine./It's alrigth'

普通に発音とかうますぎて日本人だと思っちゃう

Thank you so much for this explanation! I use anki and colour code for pitch accent and already started noticing this pattern but you basically gave it a name! (I got really irritated when I first learnt the pattern for 先生 and started doubting my theory.)

しゅうさんの日本語はほぼ完ぺきですね！　ところで私は男性が自分のことを「俺」というのが非常に気になります。丁寧な言葉使いをするときは「僕」か「私（わたし／わたくし」とすべきです。最近日本人でもふさわしくない状況で「俺」を使う人が多いので、外国の人が間違えるのは無理もありませんが、目上の人や良く知らない人の前では気を付けた方がいいと思います。

Dogen, you should call this "The Sempai Notices Me Series"

Nobody can escape the とても上手です, not even in a learning app.

Love watching these videos as always, very informative! I was curious about words with three kanji with 4 (or 5) mora like 映画館 or 図書館 do they have any patterns?

These videos are really useful Dogen! Thanks a bunch!

his japanese is fantastic!! i've not heard anyone achieve this in 3 years

When I listened to Shu speaking Japanese, and then he said "Japanese Teacher Grades Your Japanese", I was like "wait, he is an English native speaker? Then he must be native in both languages!". Could not imagine he has studied Japanese for only three years. Bravo! Really impressed! It's a very educational video. Thanks Dogen and Shu!

Amazing

wow, this makes so much sense. ive always pronounced it right but i never caught the pattern!

I’m glad I stumbled on this video as a beginner.

丁寧に話すときは男性でも「私」がいいと思います。 『俺の日本語』というのはカジュアルすぎます。

Love this

“おんがく”とかの鼻濁音できないんだよなぁ私。。。中学校の頃の音楽の先生が秋田出身で、鼻濁音に関して知ってる人だったから、助詞のがも合唱では鼻濁音で歌いましょうって教えられた。未だにできないからDogenさんのおんがくの発音すげーってなる😭

8:14 *挨拶（あいさつ) as in a greeting :)

You're the man Dogen!

外国人の言う「日本語」、だいたい「に→ほ↑ん↓ご」みたいに「ん」で下がりがちですね。自然には「ほ」で上がった後そのままの高さです。

This is something I can't really seem to understand... Very often I hear Japanese people mix casual and formal Japanese in conversation! Just yesterday I was watching two guys go to a 心霊スポット and one of them was using です、ます to talk to the other guy most of the time, but sometime he would say things like そうなんだ or そうだね, or even ask the other guy questions in casual Japanese. I realize the guy in this video should not have done it, it's a completely different context, but while consistency is important - I guess sometimes it's ok to mix them? Does it depend on the relationship between the two people or something?

Drink a shot every time Dogen says "wonderful start" or "fantastic place"

Thank you to show us this amazing world of the japonese, my english is not very good, because i'm from Brasil. Thanks for your job

That Hellotalk guy be stealing all of Dogen's patreons now

Love you dogen

mindblown!

A wild dogen appears in my feed!

Thanks, that was really useful. You were so cool even back then, Dogen. I wish you did more free stuff like this, because channel is all about memes today. I like the background, too. You are genius of proper light position and vibes on your camera frame. English is actually not my native language, if you or even just someone interested - then you could know that im russian 🇷🇺 guy, in order to notice some pattern that shows itself up. Although there is no Japanese at my comment, haha. I barely speak it yet, despite liking how i can mimic some sounds. Hope, i will get back to my comment at future.

I want a video of Dogen just staring into the camera and complimenting all of our Japanese. I was starting to feel proud for Shū after hearing his praise. lol

最初「俺は」って言って、次に「僕は」も使っていたけれど。「俺は」は友達同士でもスゴイ仲良くてカジュアルに使うから。初対面の人や目上の人と話す時は、男性も「私は」が良いと思うよ🧖😉

and now Dogen is going to have a lot of followers also on Hello Talk (me included)

文脈とかで発音変わるの普段は自然にやってるけど論理的に考えながら喋ると頭おかしくなりそうや。

i only learned recently that japanese has tones. for the past 10 years ive been "studying" ive probably been sounding like a true fool, lol

しゅーさんの日本語についてですが、確かに厳しい目で見ればまだいろいろと不自然な点があるのですが、発声や発音、またおそらく聞き取りに関しても基礎がしっかりしていることが明らかなので、あとは意識して微修正を積み重ねていけばよいという段階かと思います。 ただアメリカに住みながらこの(特に話すことにおいて)｢微修正を積み重ねる｣というのは結構大変なことだとは思うのですが、しゅーさんは動画の中で日本人の友達がいると言っていたので、私からの1つの提案としてはその友達に｢本当に小さなことでもいいから自分の言った日本語がほんの少しでも(用法でも発音でも)ネイティブの日本人の日本語と違っていたらすぐに指摘してくれ｣と頼んでみるのがいいと思います。 しゅーさんとその友達にそれなりの信頼関係があるのならいろいろと指摘してくれるはずなので、それをメモって修正を重ねていけばまだまだ上達できるかと思います。

I studied Japanese for 10 years and no-one ever explained this to me, thank you!

I can't tell how old Dogen's videos actually are.. they look old but is new.. some look new but is old..

A question about the 4-mora words almost always being heiban. You said it applies to 2-kanji, 4-mora words, but what about single-kanji, 4-mora words? Words like 侍（さむらい）and 紫（むらさき）come to mind. Are these words also heiban? If so, is it also because of the 4-mora rule or just coincidental?

ウワ〜、とても勉強になりました！m(_ _)m

His pronunciation is great, I agree Dogen. I live in Sapporo and most of my foreign friends you can tell they're not Japanese, though I'm often confused for Japanese until they see me(myself being foreign here) his pronunciation almost sounds native

Another mistake I think I found was when he pronounces 小さいころから「ずっと↓」 , but his pronunciation and the way he expresses his thoughts is really good!

I will forever remain loyal to lang8.. haha aight I'll try hellotalk because dogen sensei recommends it

I’m enjoying the evolution of your background as well as this new series. Thanks Dogen!

I like how in the thumbnail the word "sushi" turned into sus

中国 might be another exception? Though I don't know if country names fall under this rule at all to begin with. Thank you for pointing this stuff out!

Having studied corpus linguistics I'd say it's quite accurate to say hundreds more 6:22

シュウさん、日本語お上手ですね！たった３年でここまでできるなんて凄いです 「にほんご(日本語)」を中高型で発音されていることだけが気になりました。 「日本語」は中高型(遮断機、ジョバンニ、御三家、破廉恥、ミサンガ、モモンガ、アレンジ、阿寒湖、お天気、etc)の仲間ではなく、 平板型(おしんこ、五反田、お転婆、クリンチ、道産子、かばん語、etc)の仲間です！