Specifically, the RB74 is the AIM-9L, imported and redesignated in Swedish service. Technically there isn't an RB74(M), as Sweden never imported the AIM-9M; RB74(M) was made wholesale by Gaijin in order to give Sweden a competitive IR missile for the current meta. Gaijin basically fudged that late-production RB74s would have the smokeless motor and IRCCM of the -9M, and in order to distinguish these from the already-existant RB74, we got the RB74(M). IRL, Sweden kept with the RB74 (AIM-9L) until they upgraded to the RB98 (the German-designed IRIS-T), which I suspect we won't get for a while yet (probably when the Eurofighter Typhoon comes, I suspect).

I know, but I try not to phrase it like that, since gaijin might change some minor in-game stat for no reason, then my comments get flooded with "Ackshually, the seeker time is 0.3 seconds less!!!" type of comments.

@@TimsVariety”Ackshually the Rb74 used silver wiring for the detonator mechanism for the warhead”🤓

@@smogdanoff7053... exactly ...

​​@@zanaduz2018 the Rb 74 was upgraded to the m standard from 1992 onward. There was no name change as the missiles were considered essentially identical. Source was sent to gaijin a while ago showing the import of irccm seekers for the rb 74 as well as some armament catalogs listing irccm for the rb 74 on the gripen. What was never confirmed was the aim 9m on the viggen 37d which was developed during the missile upgrade. Swedish also never adopted the aim 9x. Tldr the rb74 is both the aim 9l and aim 9m in real life.

Ofc, since you already know that the video is good before even seeing it :D

Me, i do. He is deserving.

Gotta deliver for my subscribers o7 Thankfully jury duty is over. "Back to normal" this week.

No joke dude It plays with the mirage 2k and 4k like a cat does a mouse

It’s getting nerfed tomorrow

@@norske_ow3440 say sike rn

Awesome to have a personal connection to it like that!

Hunt? Does it hunt moose? Interception please.

@@ja37d-34 It can, as long as you don't need anything left of the Moose ..

@@TimsVariety lol, well, we have these dickheads that have trouble translating stuff. Our "Jägare" are transalted into "Hunters" aetc when in reality it should be "Ranger".. They are not fucking hunting mosse, either.. Just would be great if these morons got it some time.

@@ja37d-34Hunt as in ships

Same, I am still 3 planes away from the Gripen in Sweden, and was worried top tier UK was going to be left even further behind with increasingly modern aircraft and the Tornados being pushing in game to a role they were never intended for.

I feel like Gaijin is bound to give the Eurofighter Typhoon in the next few updates… which Britain desperately needs. (Germany would also benefit, of course, but since they have the MiG-29G they don’t need it as much.)

@@zanaduz2018 I expect next year at somepoint. Just unsure as to what would come out at the same time for other nations. Getting close to the point now where there's no top tier planes to add for many nations, much the same way ground is at current technology levels. Gaijin have a tricky couple of years ahead of them if they want to keep putting 'new' stuff out to grind for, and not just filling out WW2 or Cold War era equipment.

Beware the power creep

Yeah, but it makes it look weird and we all know looks>practicality, otherwise I wouldn't have the esports neon colour skins on my tanks.

I wish you could carry them on the wingtips. More flares, plus I usually fire them first and like to ditch wingtip weight first. But you bring up a valid point that I never thought about

and I've been waiting to make it :-)

specifically from your channel, too. Today was a good day.@@TimsVariety

Dont forget about that godly flyby gripen scream, puts the Flanker to shame with its howl

Viggen är coolare dock. Manligare. Gripen är som en liten plastbrud med fillers och silikontuttar. Viggen, riktiga former.

@@ja37d-34 du har bara sickness for the thickness och en förkärlek för reverse thrusting. Kan inte klaga, det är så jag vill ha mina kvinnor med.

​@@ja37d-34Gripen > Draken > Viggen enligt mig, de är dock i top 5 av mina favorit flygplan alla tre.

The "use-elevators-as-airbrake" trick works with other planes besides Gripen - in fact, that technique has been in the game since at least the F-4C Phantom back in 1.81. In the Phantom's case, you would command nose-up with its all-flying-tail to get maximum airbraking drag (although since Phantoms get drag chutes/tailhooks, you won't notice it as much).

Not for long

@@norske_ow3440 until the coming of Eurofighter and Rafale I guess, which is not very much different with Gripen.

In WT, they will be gripens with more missiles and higher TWR​@@muhamadafrifauzi5695

It is weird that they didn't implement it despite mentioning it on their website.

It can IRL , but as far as I could tell it didn't have any noticeable effect in-game.

It can be... but you have to angle the canards yourself manually by pushing the nose down after your nosewheel is on the ground (drop your mouse below the horizon once the nosewheel is on the ground). This trick also works with other jets too - Phantoms, Eagles, Tomcats, Flankers, etc.

If you know how to do a short landing it very much can. I’ve landed it with a touchdown of 142km/h which is slower than a lot of prop planes. Fly in nose high with roughly 40% thrust, and after touchdown hold down elevator to “airbrake”. Tim did a conventional landing to show how difficult, but if you are skilled you can land in a very short distance

I recently redid my review of the Saab-105G

I know (and send the snail some feedback about the inaccurate weapon selection), but I try not to phrase it like that, since gaijin might change some minor in-game stat for no reason, then my comments get flooded with "Ackshually, the seeker time is 0.3 seconds less!!!" type of comments.

Yes, but there are explanations for both of them. The Rb 71 was never carried operationally in this plane, but it was promoted as compatible in the manuals and brochures of the prototypes and technology demonstrators in the 80s and 90s. Most likely the main reason why we never saw JAS 39 with Skyflash missiles was because the missile itself was being retired in the 90s in favour of the AMRAAM. The Rb 74(M) is, indeed, a fictional missile. But once again, at some time during the 90s, and before Sweden fully integrated the IRIS-T in ~2005, the Swedish air force bought a number of IRCCM seekers and smokeless engines to upgrade a small amount of their Rb 74 missiles, but they didn't change the designation. The most fictional part of the missile in game is that irl it was not a copy-paste of the AIM-9M, although both should perform similarly. This was correctly sourced and suggested in the WT forums before this update, you can look it up.

I did this once was hilarious watching an f16c .4km behind unable to pull lead for 30seconds while I just kept circling and firing at planes that didn’t turn as good lol

My hope is that talking for a minute about the IRL history/context helps people ... like, care about the vehicle a little more and enjoy it as something more than just a points-machine, if that makes sense.

@@TimsVariety It does! Also helps place the context of the machine, against a backdrop where everything in a game is expected to be a perfect balance.

Yeah... thats a huge issue ... Each review of a top-tier jet I produce costs me 3000GEs to ace the pilot.....

I try not to do "tier list" type of things, as it creates a lot of drama, but I've been considering making a series kindof summarizing each rank from 1 though 8. We'll see.

@@TimsVariety I think that idea is definitely interesting!

Italy may get the Hungerian one at some point.

@@TimsVariety I'm just confused by Gaijin's standards for sub-trees. South Africa got their ground tree, but no air tree at all. Finland got both the ground and air tree at the same time. Hungary got a ground tree, and no air tree. But now, South Africa gets their JAS39C, and no other aircraft, no sign of a bigger tree. Hungary didn't get the same plane, and Italy is the only nation to not get a new top-tier plane this update. I have to wonder what the hell Gaijin is doing, because it makes no sense.

@@ODST_Parker there are generally larger holes in GRB lineups, since you need to bring multiple vehicles instead of one, meaning that gaijin probably cares more about fleshing out every aspect of a tree than just one. Gripen was probably only added to britain because they didnt have anything else at top tier

@@economicssimulator5979 We have an F-16A and an AV-8B, those are not up to par with the other top-tier planes. We won't be getting anything new either, not until new missiles like the AMRAAM and ASRAAM.

If you hold down elevator they will go into “airbrake mode”

@@norske_ow3440 Ahh.... Nice. How well does it work?

It helps maintain a seeker lock through pre-flares before launching, and I like to have the EEGS ready if things get close enough for a gun solution. If they're close enough for the HMD lock, they've already spotted me.

@@TimsVariety Hm okay, the way I play the Gripen is I play close to the ground and get in peoples flanks so I turn off my radar to keep the element of surprise best I can.

@@DragoneyeVII Totally legit tactic, this jet is 100% flexible enough for almost any playstyle.

twr? Sorry I don't know all the jargon

Very low drag more than makes up for it. It’s one of very few planes that can actually supercruise with a full weapon loadout and fuel tank at only a few thousand meters altitude

Think the reason ppl usually in general buy from american companies is a lot of planes like the F-15 and F-16 along witb planes have had years of combat experience

The Gripen has many downsides that aren't seen in the game. It has really poor range and weak engines. These two factors don't appear in War Thunder in any meaningful way so this plane plays better than it realistically would. The newest model of the Gripen, the Gripen NG, has addressed these issues in meaningful ways to make it the amazing plane people think it is. The problem with the new model is cost. It is cheaper to buy an F-35 than a Gripen NG, and the NG still has the worst range out of all the modern Gen 4 fighters. Buying American also makes the most sense if you main defense plan involves fighting with the Americans. You will easily fit into the American logistical network and the US has key interest to keep allies fighting for political and optics reasons.

@BulletRain100 I'm not taking war thunder as a basis for the aircraft in reality. But I see your point, I happen have an unfair bias against the f35. My point is that the cheaper variants C or D, on paper at least, would be better for many smaller nations with restrictive budgets even if its not the most capable multirole platform available

I had planned to do a dedicated review of it at some point in a few months after the current meta adapts to the new vehicles.

@@TimsVariety lovely, I also really enjoyed this video. You always do a great job on this series of content

I don't think people forgot that South Africa got a Gripen; I think the content creators are handling it separately from its Swedish JAS39A counterpart because the C-model that flies for the South Afrircans is notably heavier than the A-model that the Swedes are using right now. The extra weight primarily is avionics upgrades intended to support missiles that we don't have in-game (yet), namely the RB101 (the Meteor air-to-air missile)

@@zanaduz2018 oh, that's cool

@@zanaduz2018 South Africa don´t use the Meteor though.. A Swedish C does at a certain point. New AMRAAMs were also ordered in november..

It was a Eurofighter, but to be fair the F22 had external weapons and fuel tank. They could actually add thrust vectoring nozzles to the Eurofighter, which would be insane, but probably not worth the weight and maintenance since modern warfare is all about the BVR.

The Rafale has beat the F-22 in mock dogfighting as well, I've seen the cockpit video. (You can hear the Rafale pilot grunting trying to maintain the insane max-g maneuvers)

@@TimsVariety Oh interesting. How do the Gripers fare against the Eurofighter and Rafale then? Or is that not known?

@@MrEsphoenix I'm not aware of any published results (though I'm sure there are some), but I strongly suspect the Gripen is highly competitive against both.

@@TimsVariety Would be interesting to see. I think thrust is where it would struggle if it can't get a quick win, as they both have a much better TWR and the same unstable design, but they are heavier.

What!? For the gripen?

Lens flare through the mach cone, and DLSS doing DLSS things. Came out REALLY weird looking.

RB 98, yes. But not until the C iirc. it is pretty modern too..

There was a program back in the day where they mounted HMS and IRST on a JA37D along with an IRST nose pod for a JAS 39A, that and the JAS 39 NG (IIRC) are the only Gripen variants that has/have IRST

@@smogdanoff7053 He meant the IRIS-T

@@ja37d-34 I was saying about the InfraRed Search And Track, but thank you, I didn't knew about this rb98s 🫡

@@smogdanoff7053 this versions will come to the game?

It'll get a dedicated review at some point.

Idk what you mean by bad aspect. but if you beat it in an f14, that was a very bad gripen pilot or he had a very low level crew and blacked out. It eats f16c easily, but you have to REALLY know how to manage speed.(mainly how to force it to slow tf down lol)

@@norske_ow3440 the f14 turns better at low speeds, you can control the fight like this if will

As far as I could tell at a quick glance, they look like copy/paste. There might be some small differences in empty weight or something, but I haven't checked the datamines.

@@TimsVariety okay, thanks for the answer

@@balintblazso6069supposedly it’s slightly heavier, but I don’t think it’s noticeable. And it has agm65b which is better? Idk I’m not a ground player

what about the c version

@@ferrous3262 I couldn’t care less about UK air tree, sorry. Just me not having time to grind that entire tech tree…

@@MrTheWaterbear I meant the first viggen jas37c

@@ferrous3262 Oh. It’s ok, I mean, it’s what I use, but it still does not research that effectively :(

I had the most “luck” with the finish mig-21bis

No

Its a whole side-story I didn't go into for time reasons, but the diplomatic cables leak a few years ago revealed the HUGE lobbying effort by the United States to sabotage Gripen sales internationally.