Jason Lee | Fantasy Football | Baddiel's Apology | Steve Evans Teaching Gazza Free Kicks

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Under The Cosh

Under The Cosh

Жыл бұрын

Jason Lee is with us for this week's episode. Talking the effects Fantasy Football had on his career, David Baddiel's apology , vendettas on the field, axe fights off it, and Steve Evans teaching Gazza the art of the free kick.
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@QueerChica
@QueerChica Жыл бұрын
Honestly, easily one of the best guests you've had. Absolutely loved this. Also, Anglo-Italian Cup got a mention! Didn't expect that x
@Borosmogs
@Borosmogs 3 ай бұрын
Shame he called it the Intertoto cup, which it wasn’t. I remember the Anglo-Italian cup. Boro had a season or two of it 93-95 before we were promoted to the Prem. it was a totally pointless but fun idea haha
@QueerChica
@QueerChica 3 ай бұрын
@@Borosmogs I seem to remember some even more unusual teams in there. Southend, Notts County and Grimsby, if memory serves me correctly. I can't remember who was mentioned here now as it's been a while since I listened to this episode, mind x
@CyrusGris
@CyrusGris Жыл бұрын
I believe it was the Anglo-Italian Cup Jason played in, not the Intertoto Cup
@ChrisSmith74627
@ChrisSmith74627 Жыл бұрын
He looks incredible for 51 years old 😮
@deeppocketsshortarms2830
@deeppocketsshortarms2830 Жыл бұрын
It's all that creaming up after the game lad lol
@kiriakoz
@kiriakoz Жыл бұрын
I love listening to Jason. I've listened to a couple of episodes of his podcasts. He's always well spoken, open and honest.
@garyritter1244
@garyritter1244 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this. Thank you Jason for being so open and honest.
@kdlofty
@kdlofty Жыл бұрын
That biggest club he was at, at a much higher level.
@Cordel10
@Cordel10 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant lads. One of the best and Jason Lee what a mint bloke 100% 👌👍
@robnunn6201
@robnunn6201 Жыл бұрын
Love the story of Evans and the free kicks. 😂
@theabandonedhunter3604
@theabandonedhunter3604 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant this lads!!! Fair play to Jason Lee in what seems a very honest assessment of his career. I am massive Walsall Fan (for my sins) and I have often been in the away end where our Skipper Donovan Daniels gets abuse for his dreadlocks from close by home supporters which refer back to the same abuse Jason Lee took. Unfortunately when these chants go out even years later there not always forgotten sadly. Keep up the top work boys, and good man Jason Lee with the PFA work 👊….. Smithy
@Jamcotton
@Jamcotton Жыл бұрын
One of the best ones yet lads. Great stuff
@nwils6944
@nwils6944 Жыл бұрын
One of the best ones you've done. Interesting bloke and very good with details.
@davesandall4530
@davesandall4530 Жыл бұрын
Best series yet enjoyed everyone 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@DronedLove
@DronedLove Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed that, proper entertaining bloke. It was the Anglo-Italian Cup, not the Inter-Toto though.
@hiitdon8630
@hiitdon8630 Жыл бұрын
One of the best ones yet!
@ricksterk7014
@ricksterk7014 Жыл бұрын
I once saw Jason Lee in the produce section of Nottingham Tesco...... so glad I kept my mouth shut now
@bren67
@bren67 Жыл бұрын
Excellent podcast, I enjoyed this as much as Simon Ferry epsiode
@Mrlgk84
@Mrlgk84 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect that! Great episode 👏🏽
@DJMattHealey
@DJMattHealey Жыл бұрын
I remember him playing for Notts County at Hereford United in 2007 and he scored a couple of goals that day.
@moc8236
@moc8236 Жыл бұрын
Great anecdote
@Zoltanlouis2009
@Zoltanlouis2009 Жыл бұрын
Excellent episode. Well done chaps
@finlayanderson4945
@finlayanderson4945 Жыл бұрын
200 little heads, fair play parkin. The intros are the best part mun
@seanb3204
@seanb3204 Жыл бұрын
Not with helmets or hair on though
@sheikhando4815
@sheikhando4815 Жыл бұрын
@@seanb3204 a police hat and a rectangle
@Yeastifer
@Yeastifer Жыл бұрын
very good - enjoyed that one
@kevob
@kevob Жыл бұрын
I remember singing that song in the away section at Forest as a 15yr old, there was no racist undertones to it from my point of view but after hearing his side and then pointing to Blackface I can see were he is coming from, glad he came out of it all stronger and I think everyone learns from the whole experience, top guest👍
@wg6273
@wg6273 Жыл бұрын
Of course there's a racist undertone to it, you were just uneducated and still are if you believe there's no racist undertone to it.
@DC42087
@DC42087 Жыл бұрын
The parody and blackface baddiel done was racist. The song on the terraces was not.
@lockelamora8989
@lockelamora8989 Жыл бұрын
It's not up to you to decide if it's racist or not mate 👍🏽
@DC42087
@DC42087 Жыл бұрын
@@lockelamora8989 common sense dictates its not. If a black fan shouts ginger at a player is that racist? The tv parody however and blackface IS racist..
@wg6273
@wg6273 Жыл бұрын
@@DC42087 no because being ginger isn't a race. This show your level of understanding or lack of it.
@LordMayorOfStepney
@LordMayorOfStepney Жыл бұрын
That was great. I’m really looking forward to an ‘audience with Jason Lee’ down the Den. We love a ‘love-hate’ affair down the Den. In hindsight, he would have fitted in perfectly at the Den. They would’ve loved him.
@user-fw8ht7ri2e
@user-fw8ht7ri2e Жыл бұрын
quality episode, as always! the lads get the guests and do a great job. such a good podcast. better than any other football podcast, leaning on proper lads when football was pure. I also think its a good platform for some of these guys to speak out, gets things of their chest and hopefully make them feel better for whatever demons they might have. And John, I was at Elland road when you got your hattrick. we'd won it at half time, most fans thought it. i had a feeling that night and at half time i said to my mate "this isn't over". you got so much shit and did what you did during that game, fair play. i said it then and ill say it again, one of the best (second half) performances I've ever seen at Elland road and i was there for champions league games, viduka sociring 4 against liverpool. that game and your goals, i still talk about to this day. top guys! thanks for doing this
@leebooth2052
@leebooth2052 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting,well spoken and certainly even made me Think about stuff 👌⚽️❤️
@chestercopperpot3943
@chestercopperpot3943 Жыл бұрын
I remember when he came to Grimsby Town on loan when we were in the Championship. We could tell he had something about him that made him a PL player. Great interview and what a sound guy, who comes across as very rationale and reasonable RE the Fantasy Football issue. Glad he’s doing well.
@Davidculshaw70
@Davidculshaw70 Жыл бұрын
Appears to be a good guy, great honesty and appraisal of his career. Nice one Jason.
@davidbaker5720
@davidbaker5720 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic interview lads ❤⚽️ Jason Lee 👏 👍
@oddy532
@oddy532 Жыл бұрын
I don't remember him being a "hardman" at all, target mam with limited scoring ability. Just looked there, the successful season at Southend he mentions he scored 3 goals although I think brett a angell was the main goalscorer then.
@DC42087
@DC42087 Жыл бұрын
He only scored 100 and somethin in 600 plus games hardly prolific
@nickg2117
@nickg2117 Жыл бұрын
Loved Jason Lee at Watford. Was great for us!
@totaltoby9452
@totaltoby9452 Жыл бұрын
shame his career was not covered indepth. As much as I enjoy the POD they are no fans of Watford.
@nickg2117
@nickg2117 Жыл бұрын
@@totaltoby9452 Yeah agreed. Only really Clarke Carlisle from what I can remember.
@GrahamB77
@GrahamB77 Жыл бұрын
Great listen!
@danielwoods8458
@danielwoods8458 Жыл бұрын
Quality podcast. One of the best 👌
@andykopgod
@andykopgod Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed that, what an absolute honest guy, salt of the earth, was a dam good player too 👏👏👏
@cliverowland5380
@cliverowland5380 Жыл бұрын
What a brilliant interview , I remember the era well as I was obsessed with football back then and went to a lot of games, some where Jason was playing and witnessed the abuse which always made me think why was he being targeted because he was a decent player, it never felt right. I'm glad it's been called out now as racism and not banter and David Baddiel acknowledges this and apologises, yes Fantasy Football did rip a lot of players in humour, but not in the same way they went at Jason Lee. Thanks for such a great podcast.
@anthonymcken6050
@anthonymcken6050 9 ай бұрын
It was called out back then but Baddiel and Skinner thought that their career was far more important than someone else's career. Baddiel is a hypocrite.
@Sandylaner63
@Sandylaner63 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't like to speculate ..then immediately speculates ..😀😀nice one John
@JC-ss7xy
@JC-ss7xy Жыл бұрын
One of the best ones in a while
@kingbeastie
@kingbeastie Жыл бұрын
That was really hard going for almost an hour, listening to him telling us how hard he is/was. The Kevin Ball and Mick Harford episodes; at no point did either of those guys try to make out that they were hard, they just talked about the game and told stories. It's because of everyone who played against them that you knew they were hard on the pitch. It wasn't until the Fantasy Football stuff came up that he seemed to let his guard down and talk without seeming like an act. Enjoyable interview though, yet again. Thanks guys.
@lockelamora8989
@lockelamora8989 Жыл бұрын
What are you on about? He doesn't call himself hard even once. Did you even listen to it?
@ew2079
@ew2079 Жыл бұрын
We know big John won't want to travel to Scotland as he hates us but you guys are missing a trick up here . You should do a night in Glasgow your show is massive up here
@keithavery9669
@keithavery9669 Жыл бұрын
Another great podcast & top bloke 👏👏👏👏
@user-qc9ju3vh7z
@user-qc9ju3vh7z 9 ай бұрын
Best pod yet brilliant, Jason Lee legend
@bantamNeil12
@bantamNeil12 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview as ever lads...Jason Lee top man fairplay!!!...👏🏻⚽️👏🏻⚽️👏🏻⚽️
@M4KAV3Li87
@M4KAV3Li87 Жыл бұрын
Quality pod, enjoyed JL he seems like a top guy and real, no bullshit. Gd luck to him 👍
@jbis6
@jbis6 Жыл бұрын
Love it as always but … WHEN ARE WE GETTING THE BIG JON EPISODE !?
@ruejones4258
@ruejones4258 Жыл бұрын
Fair play … think a lot of the time fans or people outside the game just see the people on the pitch as players and not humans .. shame shit happens the way it does even now .. it was wrong then and still wrong now Jason Lee was a pro footballer Not everyone can say that Good pod great guest
@jamiehurst759
@jamiehurst759 Жыл бұрын
No way was the Intertoto Cup a thing for Southend; must've been the Anglo-Italian Cup surely?
@robertroberts5084
@robertroberts5084 11 ай бұрын
Very good that one boys!!!
@ooovxvxvx00000000
@ooovxvxvx00000000 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic show
@tonyantoniou9271
@tonyantoniou9271 8 ай бұрын
It's only Jason Lee and David Mellor who went overboard with the excellent fantasy football league.
@dazpearce2096
@dazpearce2096 3 ай бұрын
blimey, was that the Black Dog down at Horwich, near Montserrat/San Marino? Good Holt's pub that, just started listening to a great show...
@thesmanbrowne4561
@thesmanbrowne4561 10 ай бұрын
Best one yet , yes ! Even funnier than the Andy Johnson one 😂😂
@Veniceredmask01
@Veniceredmask01 Жыл бұрын
This is brilliant
@northleedspoppa
@northleedspoppa Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he's talking about Anglo -italian cup
@namrofni6236
@namrofni6236 Жыл бұрын
There was definitely an Intertoto Cup Competition in the 90's
@tyke-sl8bs
@tyke-sl8bs Жыл бұрын
​@@namrofni6236 there was, but that was like a qualifier for the uefa cup (usually to the team with best discipline record in league). What Lee is talking about is Anglo Italia cup
@ravisubra
@ravisubra Жыл бұрын
Batistuta played against Southend that season, hagi played in the final that year as well
@brunodarby529
@brunodarby529 Жыл бұрын
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@dubiouscaesar3709
@dubiouscaesar3709 Жыл бұрын
Yes I just researched it, they played in it twice, they played fiorentina the year before they played notts county in the semis.
@gazza-k23
@gazza-k23 Жыл бұрын
Still works at Nottingham Forest see him most match days
@IceReef
@IceReef Жыл бұрын
Great bloke. Good to hear him speak with fondness about his time at Roots Hall - he is right - that team in 93/94 should have gone up to the Premier League. Look at us now!
@ianmasters236
@ianmasters236 Жыл бұрын
Up The Shrimpers!!!.......great to hear some positive memory's from the club given we have been nothing but bad news for the last 5 or 6 years.
@laurenweeks9337
@laurenweeks9337 Жыл бұрын
Good pod lads this that and the other 😂😂
@neilmiller6214
@neilmiller6214 Жыл бұрын
This was a good one. Sounds like a top bloke. Baddiel was shattin! I used to watch that and thought it was astonishing that it was allowed,
@michaelohalloran2800
@michaelohalloran2800 Жыл бұрын
The modern game is missing characters.Thsts Why this pod is The Best. You get the real side of football.
@DC42087
@DC42087 Жыл бұрын
The intertoto or anglo italian cup was amazing lol
@carlschumacher7383
@carlschumacher7383 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic intro boys
@thomasmaxwellshore
@thomasmaxwellshore Жыл бұрын
The 'intertoto' is the 1993-94 Anglo-Italian Cup
@Kurgan618
@Kurgan618 Жыл бұрын
Not what I was expecting!
@nigelwilding1145
@nigelwilding1145 11 ай бұрын
Could have listened to Jason all day. 👍
@philipbradley2241
@philipbradley2241 Жыл бұрын
Such a likeable fella great episode
@carlschumacher7383
@carlschumacher7383 Жыл бұрын
At the time I was a 13 year old boy watching Fantasy Football laughing at the footage. Looking back it was bullying that the program was doing. Well done Jason for moving forward and turning a negative into a positive
@user-fw8ht7ri2e
@user-fw8ht7ri2e Жыл бұрын
i don't think Baddiel and Skinner went out of their way to be racist, i don't believe they went out to hurt Jason's feelings, they made many jokes about lots of players during that time, black or white - beckham for example got lots of shit, it was a successful program at the time but time does move on, we learn and are educated, same with little Britain and other British comedy's. when you look at comedy later than that, i think calling it bullying is very harsh,
@Davidjames915
@Davidjames915 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Jason a top bloke ❤
@graham2493
@graham2493 Жыл бұрын
That beard man! Bet Baddiel is sitting there thinking, "fool me once"...
@Timekeeper1200
@Timekeeper1200 Жыл бұрын
He's got a pineapple on his chin
@darran1783
@darran1783 Жыл бұрын
Never knew that about gazza being a player/coach!
@HarryTaylor91
@HarryTaylor91 Жыл бұрын
Where can I find the David Noble interview?
@KingKong-ee8hc
@KingKong-ee8hc Жыл бұрын
Jason lee was a very good footballer use to always get him in the panini sticker collection
@michaelcooper9705
@michaelcooper9705 Жыл бұрын
Me too. I couldn't swap him for love nor money the amount of time he was in my packet of stickers.😂
@mth666
@mth666 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelcooper9705swap, swap, swap, NEED!!! Why the hell is Ian Woan a ‘shiny’?!
@kingarthurusatenniscoach1415
@kingarthurusatenniscoach1415 Жыл бұрын
well done jason lee,,,,,,
@niall-b4902
@niall-b4902 Жыл бұрын
A lot of “I’m not about that” we’ve got a problem” not for me this one, no stories or laughs, intro was more entertaining 😅
@adrianmcardle85
@adrianmcardle85 Жыл бұрын
56:55 for the fantasy football league stuff
@adamafc3607
@adamafc3607 Жыл бұрын
Glen little part 3 please!!
@jonnyf9088
@jonnyf9088 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant and so funny 😂 - was only going to watch the first 1/4 and ended up watching it all the way through and should have been asleep over an hour ago! Top man Jason 👍👍
@theosworld941
@theosworld941 Жыл бұрын
Great player and great guy too it seems
@fredericks3756
@fredericks3756 Жыл бұрын
Would love a compilation of all the times Browny is overlooked, as a former pro, by the guests
@williambeck6744
@williambeck6744 Жыл бұрын
That would be a six hour special 😂
@mattdyer1174
@mattdyer1174 Жыл бұрын
Great bloke!
@imnotavingthat6813
@imnotavingthat6813 Жыл бұрын
This was a belter, love the cut of his gyb, brilliant.... Sad to say i remember him as 🍍 head. Great bloke with a good career... Live Long and Live Large Bigman
@dazzlarnic5732
@dazzlarnic5732 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@joannebeach1373
@joannebeach1373 Жыл бұрын
I worked for Boston United when Jason was playing. I can confirm Steve Evans talked shit!! 😂
@charliesmithers7663
@charliesmithers7663 Жыл бұрын
When confidence outstrips ability
@kdlofty
@kdlofty Жыл бұрын
Probably something to do with the fact tat he had to replace Stan Collymore.
@DC42087
@DC42087 Жыл бұрын
@@kdlofty thats 1 team he played at loads of clubs...
@wolfcrewe7474
@wolfcrewe7474 Жыл бұрын
Think Jason means the Anglo-Italian Cup/Fairs Cup.
@crazyfootballboys5076
@crazyfootballboys5076 Жыл бұрын
A pleasure to hear football in a library getting sung by the Sunderland fans at Cardiff today 😂
@oddy532
@oddy532 Жыл бұрын
And by boro at bristol city
@benjones8405
@benjones8405 Жыл бұрын
And by Swansea at Wigan 😂
@charlierich4267
@charlierich4267 Жыл бұрын
A pleasure? The only bad thing about this podcast is that song 🤦🏻‍♂️
@crazyfootballboys5076
@crazyfootballboys5076 Жыл бұрын
​@@charlierich4267doo doo doo football in a library ❤😂
@eddyswinney244
@eddyswinney244 11 ай бұрын
Enjoy the show,great crack but VPN slows you;re internet down,fact,I live in Thailand ,tried it ,pish! Make sure you have good speed and good box,I watch everything and no buffering
@matthewwassall798
@matthewwassall798 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant episode. One of my faves. Jason comes across brilliantly and extremely genuine.
@kowloonattic2110
@kowloonattic2110 3 ай бұрын
Ask Baddiel if he wants to have people standing outside his synagogue in a Groucho Marx nose and glasses chanting 'he's got a yarmulke on his head' - it felt like bullying at the time.
@jakevanoorschot4098
@jakevanoorschot4098 Жыл бұрын
He dunt look 51!!! Class podcast!
@brodogoks2526
@brodogoks2526 Жыл бұрын
Time stamps
@ezza-and-friends
@ezza-and-friends Жыл бұрын
Get David reeves on
@davecollier7329
@davecollier7329 Жыл бұрын
Did he say he found the Premier league easy he was comfortable. Not how I remember it, he was garbage. Don't remember him being no hardman either. Not hating on him but that wasn't a reflection on his career.
@tomd2103
@tomd2103 Жыл бұрын
Listening to this and the other podcast, I think he has almost re-written his own history. Maybe he felt he had to after what he went through, as he still comes across as quite angry about it all.
@dubiouscaesar3709
@dubiouscaesar3709 Жыл бұрын
I remember getting a book, each clubs worst player, like a stocking filler thing, every club in the football league where the fan's trust would vote, some were harsh, balaban at villa fur being injured, Smith at Brighton for that one miss, Lee got forests, I'm sure that he scored no more than three league goals in a season.
@stuartheaps4941
@stuartheaps4941 Жыл бұрын
You can see his pain when talking about Fantasy Football, I used to laugh when watching it as in innocent 11 year old but feel like fuck for him now. Baddiel and Skinner and averyone behind the scenes should have known better.
@dilligaf7486
@dilligaf7486 Жыл бұрын
It was the Anglo Italian Cup. Pretty sure Notts County beat Ascoli in the final
@pjduff7577
@pjduff7577 Жыл бұрын
It wasnt a scholarship it was a YTS
@MrTerryb1956
@MrTerryb1956 Жыл бұрын
That would have made great TV if Jason had chinned Baddiel on that show and said " and you thought I miss the target "
@dubShels
@dubShels Жыл бұрын
Go see Shelbourne FC when you are in Dublin
@YoungTowser
@YoungTowser Жыл бұрын
As a Forest fan I can tell you he's definitely chosen to describe his career in a way only he remembers. Bottom line was he was shite. Sorry but it's true. To rephrase, that, he was total wank. Like a Sunday league player.
@mytayube
@mytayube Жыл бұрын
maybe his career at Forest was. He looked shot of confidence in the Premier league, couldn't do the basics. But at a lower level he must have been useful else he wouldn't have had a career.
@YoungTowser
@YoungTowser Жыл бұрын
I think it came down to ability more than confidence if we are being realistic. Anyway it was about 40 years ago so doesn't really matter does it!
@paulhank7967
@paulhank7967 Жыл бұрын
Don't agree. I thought he was a threat to teams and always gave his best.
@YoungTowser
@YoungTowser Жыл бұрын
@@paulhank7967 Agree gave his best, but it was shite. Not his fault, he didn't sign or pick himself did he. But to talk like he was ever anymore than a below par bit part player is nonsense and to use the FF excuse again is easy to do now but he couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo, stood beside the barn door!.
@mauriceperry2165
@mauriceperry2165 Жыл бұрын
I always remember him as being incredibly lucky to get a chance at PL level and his scoring record was never good at a higher level either. He was a stop gap Championship signing for Forest and was never cut out for the top level. In hindsight the pineapple stuff was wrong and it may well have affected him, but I think he'd have made his way back down a level or two fairly quickly regardless.
@paulyoung3433
@paulyoung3433 Жыл бұрын
Not a lot of stories told. You could tell he was holding back. The difference between say Beesley/Woody etc.. Great person and still a great listen, was just expecting more stories.
@robertmclean3612
@robertmclean3612 Жыл бұрын
U can tell be length of episode if it’s been a good one before u even watch it lol
@bulliboyz
@bulliboyz Жыл бұрын
@@maxwellboyne2770 you mean a footballer brought on to talk about himself is self obsessed?
@Kingcazza
@Kingcazza Жыл бұрын
​@@maxwellboyne2770 I agree, don't like his demeanor and the way he speaks of others where I feel he shows a lack of respect, he comes across like the world owed him a favour, don't get me started on the whole David Baddiel thing, he's definitely milked the crap out of that.
@TrequartistaFM
@TrequartistaFM Жыл бұрын
@@maxwellboyne2770 how do you know they’re all lying though? Could you hear what people were doing in all four corners of the ground? ‘It’s been stamped out’ is fucking hilarious considering your keeper got done for saying racialised shit against a Charlton player a few years back 😂
@flashgordon8792
@flashgordon8792 Жыл бұрын
He’s on about the Anglo-Italian Cup. Not the Intertoto.
@MrIanji
@MrIanji Жыл бұрын
I’d love to go on the piss and curry with these guys, always makes me laugh!!
@MrIanji
@MrIanji Жыл бұрын
Jason is a legend too
@johnniecoles3925
@johnniecoles3925 Жыл бұрын
Excellent as always chaps. Just one slight whinge is that Baldy Bolton is reverting to Interrupting Baldy Bolton… Leave the football chat to the football people ….
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