I always thought about owning a Ferrari or a Porsche but after long hours of thinking about it I stayed with Skoda.

I went Porsche. At the price point of a 991.1 Base, there aren't too many Ferrari options in my price range. If I had been willing to stretch my budget, I could have just squeaked into the lowest price points, which is probably not advisable for such a car. Also, wanted a manual transmission. Could have found the Ferrari sooner (more with manual), but the Ferrari manual premium is $10-15k, where the less common Porsche manual is only $1-3k more for manual. That said, even if I HAD the coin, I probably would have favored the Porsche for a few reasons: 1) Insurance - rates are cheaper in the USA for Porsche & insurance won't require you to have a lockable garage or motion camera fixed on your car, as some insurances will. 2) Mechanicals - Choose the right Porsche (generation and cared for example) and it'll be a very reliable car for MANY miles. Harder to do that with a Ferrari. 3) Driving Aversion - A "high milage" Ferrari is 40k miles, but a "high milage" Porsche is 150k+. A testament to reliability, maintainability, and depreciation behavior. I want to be able to drive the hell out of this, and not think twice about doing so. 4) Practicality - As a second, fun-focussed car, practicality isn't too important, but if I make a longer road trip, I want to make sure I can haul whatever I may need. 5) Support Network - Porsche shops are FAR more common than Ferrari. The USA is VAST and occasionally desolate. If I'm on a road trip and the car breaks down, I'm likely closer to a Porsche shop than I am a Ferrari. 6) Manufacturer Support - Porsche supports their cars forever; continuing to create parts & offering modernized head units in perpetuity. Ferrari doesn't. Those are my reasons!

Great video! I drove Porsches for 20 years and now my beloved F355 for 14 years. I love both. Driving a Porsche is great fun. But driving my Ferrari, is something greater than life...

James to his Porsche fan audience. "Your cars are nice, Ferraris are nicer and you're all assholes."

On the 'car community' issue, this is an interesting psychology thing. I've had it with boats in when I had my diddy starter boat, in marinas, people with huge boats often were very friendly reminiscing that they started with something similar and what fun it was etc etc. But a number of boat owners who had 'fairly' big boats could be very snobby how I wasn't worthy of being in the marina. Obviously NOT all but certainly more in that demographic than with very small or very big boats. I called it 'middle management syndrome'. Done reasonably well but not quite made to the 'top' where they wanted to be. I wonder if Porsche can attract a similar issue. (Once again not everyone) but because Porsche is a bit of a mid-brand, some of its owners need to puff themselves up a bit. (Usually by squashing down 'lesser mortals'). Not an exact science but I've seen it in boats, cars and even houses..

Watching these videos with a bacon sarnie and a brew is becoming a bit of a weekend tradition now. Jay seems a very likable bloke with a real passion for what he does and the recent V12 homage video was genuinely one of the best KZfaq car bloke videos I've seen from anyone in years! To my mind at least, that vid made Jay every bit as good as some of the bigger names out there, Clarkson and co included.

I’ve never owned such exotica but in 55 yrs of car ownership I’ve never bought one to impress others. If it appeals to me and ticks the boxes that’s required at the time I’m a happy bunny.

Best video you’ve made recently I think. You’ve expressed exactly how I feel about the car community and especially how some of the Porsche people look down on you and it happened to me when I would show up at meets with my Cayman S 987.1. My dream car is in fact a Ferrari 360 or F430, hope one day my dream will come true!

I could listen to a Jaguar V8 burble all day long.....I was educated by a TVR owner when I said I didn't like the sound of the McLaren V8....and he said "ahh that's because you prefer a cross plane crank to a flat plane crank". So whether its Ferrari v Porsche, cross plane v flat, turbo v normally aspirated etc etc, it's good to know we are all on the right side of the petrol head line.....Just say NO to EV 🤣

I came from owning every type of 911 to a 458 spider. I have no doubt across country my old 911 Turbo would demolish the big Fiat but at anything under 120mph it was just boring. Very very competent but dull. The 458 by comparison is exciting at 30 mph and 3 years of ownership later has proved to be more reliable than the 911 was. In the modern world where even a hot hatch is monstrously fast a car should be exciting first and foremost and the Ferrari has that in spades.

I drove a mate’s 488 this summer - devastatingly fast and stupidly capable. I then drove the same set of roads in my (well sorted) TVR Cerbera and it really put things into context. You just don’t need to spend all that money, if all you want is a thrilling drive. Modern cars are just too good, achieving monumental performance too effortlessly. Incidentally, was out on those same roads in an F40 a few years ago. Needless to say, it blew everything else into the weeds in terms of the experience, and I wasn’t even driving.

James is so spot on. 9 years ago we got our first Porsche, a 981 boxster. Absolutely loved the car, my wife takes it to work everyday. Once at a dealer for warranty repair, an older gentleman asked her what she brought that day. She said boxster, the guy said “oh I have a real Porsche, a 911”. A few years later, my wife showed up in a 991.2 gt3 to a Porsche meet, not one guy gave her the eye contact or establish a conversation, guys in their caymans and 911s with their egos hurt, or prob comment something along the lines like that’s her husbands car or she can’t drive etc. I absolutely hate Porsche clubs, I would be rolling in a lambo and they would say “u gotta get a Porsche”. They got too much group ego and not open minded. And 1/4 the pple we met don’t drive their cars but all they do is talk about market values and which model will appreciate… so foking boring. We love Porsches, have a 3RS and spyder, but we also love and own Ferraris and lambo. Diff charm and magic from each brand, and yes pple gotta look around for alternative charming cars rather than playing the Porsche dealer markup and flipper game

I prefer your driving commentaries rather than your static ones. The highlight for me is often the odd comment on things outside the window. Few others can drive while giving a cohesive narrative.

On the subject of the Porsche community and meetings, I have to totally disagree. When I bought my Cayman 987.2 Base, a Porsche group owner came up to me at a local car meet and asked about me and my Cayman. Him being an older 60+ fellow and me being 26 at the time, I really didn't expect him to take me seriously. But instead, invited me into the group and the Porsche In The Park they were having later in the year. I went to that, and everyone was just lovely and friendly. Not one person made me feel like shit, despite them having something like a 992 GT3 RS, Sports Classic or even a Cayman GT4 RS. Hell, they welcomed someone with a Porsche 914, a Porsche that is near enough forgotten about by most people. Speaking of both the 992 GT3 RS and Sports Classics (which the owner had both the 997 and 992 variants), they both eagerly allowed me to get in and sit in their expensive cars and take photographs. Me being someone who is generally quite introverted still, this welcoming attitude is something i've needed for awhile, and I couldn't be happier meeting some truly interesting characters in this group, it really changed my perspective on thinking Porsche owners are all suited up business snobs, and I was the odd one out due to my age and occupation, but this couldn't be further from the truth in my experience lol To give context, I live in North East Scotland, so i'm not sure what Porsche owners are like anywhere else around the UK. But from i've gathered, the typical snobby Porsche owner is much more prevalent as an English thing. Obviously not saying all English owners are like that, but considering you (James) live in England, you're alot more exposed to it. It really does depend on where you live, I guess. For all you know, there's abunch of Ferrari owners somewhere in America who treat people like how you claim people treated you and your mum. Different environments, different attitudes.

I agree with much of what you say. Having owned both Ferraris and Porsches I would agree that owning a Ferrari is a special experience whichever model you drive, and however old it is, you are part of a special club. I was lucky enough to compete in the Pirelli-Ferrari Hill Climb Championship for some years in a 328GTB and that was fantastic. Even so, the one thing I would add to the debate, as a current Porsche 718 Spyder owner, is that 'flippers' and collectors aside, you are much more likely to see Porsches being driven hard on track or on road trips. As a long term-member of GRRC and someone who attends 6-8 track days a year, I am much more likely to see Porsches being driven hard (and usually well) but rarely do I see Ferraris on track being used like they are supposed to be. Now, as you say, there are a lot more Porsches out there, even so, I think Ferraris are more about the 'having' than the 'driving'.

This is a fabulous video. I could only afford my V6 Camaro, but I love it to death, and it will not be the last one I own. I hate when people rag on other people who just love their own car!

I agree with your comments about the car community. I recently took my new 992 series base model to a Porsche meet and not one person spoke to me accept the dealer rep who wanted me to trade it in. You are also spot on about the recent antics of Porsche fleecing its customers with ridiculous over charges and hefty rises in base[prices for every model. My car, that had a base price of $127,000Cdn in 2021 now has a list price of $161,000 before any options.so my optioned up 992 that was $147,00 in 2021 is now over $200,000 Cdn. As much as I like the Brand and the cars, my current 992 is my last Porsche.

I've owned both, and simply there is nothing like the feel-good factor, noise, sat behind the wheel feeling than driving a Ferrari. Proof in the pudding is, I currently own a new Porsche and a classic Aston, and I continually find myself looking through Pistonheads and Autotrader looking at Ferraris available.

Absolutely respect your humble and friendly opinions and willingness to share nice positive content James. 🙌

I pushed the like button as you described the Ferrari community, and then wished I could push it again as you ranted about the fact that its passion that matters, not ownership. Great vid.

Great timing! I just bought my first Ferrari today. A manual F430 Spider. Got home from the dealership and saw this video.

I think it’s very impressive that you can deliver these 30 min monologues while driving. I prefer it to sitting in a garage splicing in on-road b-roll. Although most content creators do a mix of both, but maybe it makes your content more unique

Ferrari is a rare gem you see once in a great while. Porsche is a dime a dozen.

Ive not seen many presenters that can talk so effortlessly, really spot on content.

It's always been Porsche

Porsche gets the job done, Ferrari gets the job done with style

Been watching your stuff quite a bit lately. Thank you for the content and positive messages.

Really interesting thought provoking perspectives. A great video, thank you !

Excellent points and summary of the emotional vs. cerebral differences of Ferrari vs. Porsche. I couldn’t agree more, James! As a Porsche owner, for the reasons stated, I someday need to own a Ferrari… as soon as I find the right example (and I get the courage)! Cheers and happy motoring!

I´ve had a couple of 911´s and mid engine Ferraris but the 911´s always stick with me and the Ferraris are more like an affair on the side. I like that you can drive the Porsches very hard without having a lot of problems or pay a lot of money to maintain it! Also the Porsches are quicker on track although very underpowered compared to Ferraris!! Then I don´t like the attention you get from a Ferrari, I currently drive a 991.2 GT3 Touring, under the radar but still a great car to drive!!

Always informative - far better than just comparing specs. All points considered, I think one with a trident on the badge would be my pref. Also like the channel mixed with the occasional garage video.

Great episode as ever James. It's totally true what you say about Ferrari meets, a friend of the family used to regularly attend his local meet in his Alfa 166 3.0 and was always welcomed with open arms, in the big festival meets.

I still cannot believe you don't like the 458.

Your car knowledge and video filming skills are unmatched. 30 minutes of your video pass like 5 of others.

Reason #1 3:24 - Badge Reason #2 8:30 - Engines Reason #3 13:10 - Styling Reason #4 16:25 - Community Reason #5 25:38 - Value All debatable topics from JayEmm. Let the comments continue.

I'd say 20% outdoor filming and in your office discussing the various points Jay. Thank you for another interesting video 👍

Very brave of you to make this James, and very enjoyable to watch

Anyone who gets annoyed by this needs to give their head a wobble. For me, it was always Porsche since i was a kid. I finally got a 996 last year having worked "ruddy hard" to get the cash. It may only be a base Carerra but i love it and to me it's special. As for the ferrari vs porsche community i couldn't say. Alot of that kind of club scene can be a bit 'golf club chairman' and i dont play golf either. Its all subjective so good luck to anyone who gets the car of their dreams and enjoys it.

Really great video James. One of your best. Respect.

Nice to see all your hard work come through now mate growing more, ive watched since the beginning great stuff pal keep it up

Fun fact, the horse on the badge for both cars is actually the same 😃 Both are the horse from the Stuttgart coat of arms.

Fantastic video James, I agree 100% Having owned a 992 and now having a Roma, the Ferrari feels special in any type of driving, even stationary, whereas the Porsche felt like a high performance Golf until you really pushed it ( then it was amazing!). The buying experience was also much better with Ferrari, with the Porsche it was like they were doing you a favour....

Lovely video. One of my fave KZfaqrs by far. And I trust your reviews, having owned many of the best of the best of all the marques 90s on

I had this dilemma, but ended up with a RAV4 instead

I agree with all your five points. My '95 Supra sport roof manual and '08 F430 spider manual were never in the shop though. I kick myself for selling the Supra for USD20k in 2002. The F430 just works. I don't commute by car but I use it half the time I'm going anywhere. (Other half is an E39 M5 manual of course.) The F430 prices took a big hit when the 458 came out of course but after 15 years it hasn't lost much per year, probably cheaper than buying a high-end Toyota sedan every three years. Still feels really nice to get in and drive, and it's the only car I've never gotten a speeding ticket in: it's simply enjoyable even stuck in Tokyo traffic, roof down any time it's not raining.

Great video as usual James. I'm currently lucky enough to be a 1995 MR2 and 718 Boxster owner. I have to be honest the MR2 is probably the one i look forward to driving the most. Now if i could stretch to a 355 i would without hesitation (and keep the MR 😊)

Hilarious intro... Love your content... Thank you for everything you do ❤

Fantastic video James! Great intro music and of course the shirt is spot on too.

There are few Ferrari models that don't have at least a few odd, off putting angles that simply never grow on me. Yes, including the older ones. (Notable exceptions: F355, F430, 288 GTO). That said, I completely agree that most of them are truly special and unique. And what you shared about most owners being enthusiasts is something I've heard about here in the States, as well.

I've been on the receiving end of car snobbery, and also had some great interaction with true car enthusiasts when out in my toy. OK, it's neither a Ferrari or a Porsche, but a Toyota GT86 (I really wanted a GR86, but just couldn't get hold of one, and there's no way I'm going to pay over the odds from the flippers) I love my car, it's pampered to death, but also driven hard when it does go out. I find that folk with VW's, Audi's, Alfa's, Ford's, etc., that cost just over what mine did (around 30K) are the worse for derogatory comments, yet those with their 100K+ cars are always friendly and want to have an intelligent conversation. I did do some geeky investigation and have worked out that my car is one of only about 7-10 of the exact make, model, year, colour and spec that exist in the UK, but to me, it's not an investment, it's a car, and for that reason it should be used and enjoyed. Oh and by the way.... more content while on the road, not sat at a desk. You are a car channel, and we want to see cars 😁

Love you to bits mate, your attitude is wonderful.

Interesting episode, James. How about an update video on your Celica GT4....do you have the Fujitsubo Legalis R exhaust system fitted yet?

Loved that intro!

With you on this, but not with that awful 296 GTB blue stripe and moustache paint scheme...

Love this content. Jay, you are truly a working class hero. Your love of below thousand quid bangers is inspiring.

Spot-on analysis Jay! Well done!! from a Porsche 992 owner

Always on the move, James😃 never stop driving, wether it be a Ferrari or a Porsche. Both the top marques with incredible racing history

IT'S POR-SHAH!! 😂 (I also say it the way you do, and don't care about how others say it)

Great vid, not sure I’ll ever own either Porsche or Ferrari but can dream! Love the driving format personally, you are very good at the narrative while the scenery flashes by

Porsche: 340.000 cars produced per year... Ferrari: Less than 300.000 cars produced since inception...

James while a Ferrari may be a Ferrari but deep down you know a MX5 is the answer 😝😜🤪🚗

I am selling a property I have and next year I am going to buy something cool. I have thought about all the cars out there from Porsche, McLaren, Ferrari, Lamborghini and the Corvette Z06 and I think it will either be a Lamborghini or Ferrari, leaning heavily towards Ferrari. Ferrari really just has that cachet that no other car has. Also their interiors are second to none. I might go left field though and get a Lexus LC500, those are nice. Porsche, unless I am buying a Carrera GT or 959, they just don't really interest me, even the 918 I don't love.

Another great video, thank you. As a 997.2 Carrera S and M3 CSL owner, I have to agree with most of what you said!

Perfectly put James. My head totally agrees with your entire sentiment and video. My heart, however, can only see the Ferrari in it's dreams!

Ferrari >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Porsche

I'm a Porsche man, 991.2 GT3 Touring is my dream car but, I do think the F12, 488 Pista and 458 are stunning too but they attract too much attention for my liking but I do appreciate them and would deffo never call anyone for owning them. Love for all sports/super cars

Great programme, looking forward to the Porsche counterpoint. Like the content from behind the wheel...

Really refreshing James, thank you!

The blue on the red looks absolutely disgusting.

The blue interior is hideous. Hid-e-OUS. Unconscionably so.

i thoroughly enjoy your videos, on cars and bikes. thank you for being entertaining and informative. The richer than yow quip was funny, first time since enfield and whitehouse i've heard that. Also, the driving presentations are more involving than the ones in garage. in my humble opinion

Great soundtrack. I suggest making a compilation of all sounds you've got, showing some intro footage, then having a quiz at the end.

Here in Au owning a Ferrari is still exclusive while owning a Porsche still makes one a wanker.

Thanks James for another well thought out topic and video. I have been a Porsche collector for many years but during COVID when Porsche prices were as high as Ferrari prices I decided to purchase a new Roma. The car was beautiful, fast and sounded pretty good but the stupid steering wheel controls and lack of some features that are pretty much standard on Porsche and other brands, irritated me so much that I traded it in on a GT3 Touring when an allocation came my way. I guess in the end I am a “function first” person who values style and sizzle but demands excellence in areas Ferrari just does not shine!

Thanks for mentioning me James appreciate your words 25:00

Love 4K car vids. Thanks Jay.

There is FERRARI....and then we have the rest..

Here in Canada, a 992 Sport Classic ( the Turbo S with a Manual and a ducktail ) sells for over 300k $ over MSRP simply because is "Limited Edition". I saw one last week parked in front of an upper scale Restaurant and it looks pretty good. However, right next to it there was an F8 Tributo Spider and I have to admit, I'll take the Ferrari any day. It's absolutely stunning.

Liked your video. First time I’m watching you, and will watch more. But yes I prefer most static sitting. A few in car shots , some driving, but I think it sounds more clear when your not in the car.

A genuine man presenting a genuine point of view. Fabulous points made sir and hopefully one day I'll own one. Cheers 🍻

I own the 5k boxster shit box and love it 😄 although bought it ten years ago and is still worth 5k LOL

Both Porsche and Ferrari have their pros and cons. Porsches drive really well, are extremely durable, fun to drive and as you point out-subtle unless you know what you are looking at (Carerra GT and 918 Spyder excluded). Ferraris are like prom queens!! They look fantastic, theres a sense of occasion every time you drive it, and many (not all) aspire to own one. They sound amazing, and play to your emotions. As it stands now, the majority of people on the planet will never get to experience a Ferrari. That is sad but also the reason the cars especially the v12, are aspirational items. This also makes it easy to hate/be jealous of those that own them regardless of how nice a chap the owner may be. Ferraris are modern, functional, fast sculpture based on the evolution of going faster/racing. Now having owned a majority of the higher end brands I have to say I really enjoy and appreciate Ferraris. I wish owners drove them more rather than let them sit in a garage. Bentley also is quite special and isn’t it interesting that VW group who shares and retunes its parts and engines across all of its brands decided to create the new Bentley Continental based on the Porsche Panamera platform? Porsche does things right too! The two brands appeal to different likes. If you can get the limited/ special low volume offerings from either brand you are doing great!

I like the conversations while behind the wheel because it gives it that same vibe a review does (without the review of course)

I like the bit about the enthusiasm for cars. Good vibes.

Agree with everything, but Ferraris are a lot more expensive to buy and maintain. It’s not comparing apples with apples

Would be good to have a video comparing monthly and yearly running costs comparing a porsche and Ferrari. From the 90’s early 2000 all the way up to the newer models.

I was quite happy watching the intro and listening to the music.

Can tell Jay is a man with origins in film. What powerful start to the video...

It's not so much about what you drive It's about how it makes feel when you drive it I have a mustang GT which always puts a smile on my face

This should have been: 1.Because it's a Ferrari 2.Because it's a Ferrari 3.Because it's a Ferrari 4.Because it's a Ferrari 5.Because it's a Ferrari

Great video i felt this going to Porsche events with my 944 turbo...now folks are actually more interested in seeing it. Go Figure!! My son and I are rebuilding a salvage Ferrari 458 Spider Im hoping we are excepted well at events. Seems like a few folks don't see the value in a very well rebuilt car. Fingers crossed but we are enjoying the project.

Rent the Ferrari, track the 911, and own a Corvette. Simple man's mindset. I drove a Ferrari before and while it was great, I don't wanna imagine how much effort I'd have to put into repairing these.

Hi James. While I agree there is some overlap in prices I see Porsche and Ferrari to be in different niches. I agree that for Ferrari money you get less car with a Porsche (918 and Carrera GT excepted) these days. However, for entry level Porsche money (early water cooled 911s and transaxle cars) there is no Ferrari equivalent. I and many other Porsche owners live quite happily in this latter category. I have little interest in the GT3/GT4s because I don't track my car, but if I was looking for a modern track car it would be Porsche over Ferrari.

rich men problems lol narr

James, fantastic video. First, yes, love the format of these chats whilst driving. I am a Porsche fan. Have been since I was 6. That being written, you really have brought up some compelling points. I would say, up until a decade ago, I would not have considered Ferrari and Porsche in the same levels….there are C-GT’s, 918, etc, but on the whole the Porsche brand seemed more approachable and achievable…for me, at least. I have always appreciated the styling and engineering behind the Porsche. These points though really do bring up the magic that I have always known about Ferrari. No one styles a car or makes a car sound like a Ferrari. Flat 6’s are great…but a Ferrari…well, that’s a different song by a different band. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Been a pleasant time thinking about this and the perfect companion to getting a bit of work done. As always, thank you, James!

I still see you as one of the best KZfaq automotive reviewers out there. Your context beyond the manufacture spec sheet is wonderful. Your shout out to the teenager with the $1000 beater who shows up to the car meet is appreciated. Nothing better than seeing the next generation of gear head at the auto meet. “It’s raggedy, but it is running, it is mine, and I still turn my own wrenches”

Tell this to Jay Leno. Watch his interview on why he’d never own a Ferrari

For me a Porsche can never compete with a Ferrari. Ferrari is just a different level when it comes to joy, pleasure, emotion, overall feeling, driving character. As Luca di Montezemolo once said "Porsche are very good cars - but they are like refrigerators".

A hybrid between calm office and in the car talk would be amazing and I think you are the man to pull it off 😁

Entirely agree. I have owned both. The Ferrari brand is just wonderful. It has emotion and passion in spades.