That single front fan just looks depressing

The single front fan on the case is like biting into a burrito and getting nothing but tortilla. Depressing.

One front fan for your highest tier pc that is nearing 2500 is crazy.

Just to let viewers know, the system they sent Jay is an upgraded version of the base player 3 build. His is gonna run closer to 3000 than the starting 2300.

$2300 and only one intake fan is absurd

I started with a Cyberpower PC off the shelf at Best Buy. The only thing left from the original pc is the HDD I use for photos and other files. Upgrading a prebuilt is a great way to slowly introduce yourself to PC building!

Dude, there's another group out here. I'm a retired software/computer engineer. I cut my teeth building PCs and systems in the early 90s. (What happened to our roaches. :-) ) Anyway, I had to retire early partly due to arthritis, tendinitis, and some other itis's. My hands shake from pain and it's impossible to do a PC build anymore. I do the occasional GPU swap or drive swap, but it usually involves much colorful language trying to slide hard things into the tight spots. So, SI's are a godsend. Although the last one I used was Puget and then used a local guy to upgrade the guts on my fractal case. It's getting close to time to do a whole rig. Anyway, just remember that many of us Gen Xers grew up building the tech everyone now enjoys, but we ain't what we used to be. So good on all these wonderful SI choices. It so beats the old Packard Bells and Gateways. LOL.

What a joke of a company. This is an expensive system with high-end components, and they have the audacity to slap a single front fan into it.

Some pre builts just don't have all the connectors connected and everything a-ok. And the end consumer has to pay more for that as well. And sadly won't know how to fix them.

I bought the Player Three Prime build last year and I was lucky enough to catch a crazy deal leading up to Black Friday (damn near 1k off) and I absolutely love it. I'm a photographer, video editor and gamer. My old rig that I built a few years back was starting not to cut it with all this 8K footage people are shooting in. I didnt really have the free time, to research and build a new rig, so I decided to go with this option and it turned out for the best. They even refunded me the money back for the memory because I decided to go with a different set and all I had to do was send back the memory that came with it. It saved me a ton of time, and I was able to get right to work and playing my games after clone in my hard drive over. PS. Their customer service is top notch and I was a very pleasant surprise.

Not everyone is capable or should even be near the inside of a pc case. For these people a prebuilt is perfect. Its also a good way to get into the hobby without getting overwhelmed or fearing you'll destroy thousands of dollars of parts

There’s absolutely ZERO excuse to not have more front fans in this pre-built. When I see stuff like this it makes me avoid the company going forward. There’s absolutely no reason to not have more front fans outside of saving money/increasing profits.

I got a Player 2 last fall and my only regret is I didn't wait for a holiday sale and save a couple bucks 😊

I don't really care if someone goes pre-built. The only thing I've found is that, in most cases, you can't nerd out as much with pre-built folks because they don't really know their hardware. Can't talk about all of the small details/considerations that went into their PC. But, I'm all for easy entry to the PC world. Maybe it can inspire them to build/plan their own someday.

I started off with a "prebuilt" (IBM XT) but have been exclusively building my own since the 286 days. When 3090s were near impossible to get I ended up buying the NZXT Creator and it's honestly been rock solid and their support even replaced Kraken cooler when the pump started making a little noise with no pushback. If I ever decide to get another prebuilt these are the guys I will spend money with.

I love your comment about “a good starting point.” I look forward to the one series and the possible upgrade path.

I started with a prebuit and upgraded over time. At this point the power supply is all that's left of the original prebuild. Gaming is my primary but building was fun, I referenced Jay a LOT to make sure I was doing it right.

I remember when i was getting into computers and i didnt want to build it, so i got a ACER pre-build for $2500, reaching temps of 100c My friend that i thought knew more about PCs told me that those temps were normal but i looked online and saw that was considered the overheating I returned it and decided to make my own and it was one of the best decisions ever, even though it can be frustrating when troubleshooting, its kinda fun to find the issue and fix it But i alway recommend people prebuilds or consoles if they don’t want to deal with the hassle Now my PC barely ever hits 70

Since this video they've added three fans to even the base model Player Three I just picked mine up today, THANK YOU for speaking up :D

Thanks for all this Info u do on your Channel, Greatly Appreciated what u do to help us on great Choices to make on upgrades and Computers.

18:30 Jayz ifixit ad on the pump LCD is priceless xD

That's a really nice build for a SI .. And I like the cut out for the 12vhpwr cable on that Gigabyte Card :) Nicely thought out position !

I too am one who enjoys building/assembling the computer, troubleshooting and trying to fix is a whole 'nother thing.

i designed and purchased a 3500$ computer from Digital storm 2 years ago- I used to built my own. It cost less ,used all name brand products i wanted, did amazing workmanship on the assembly, I have used their technical support half a dozen times and it has excelled in every way and has outstanding warranty.the computer hardware and they staff have been worth every penny and the unit is rock solid and performs first rate.

I'm with you, building is the fun part. Especially trying to find the cheapest prices for the partsyou want. One thing I am glad about is I don't have to set the port addresses.

that title hurt my head 😭

I like doing it all. I like that there are options now for pre-builds that are not just e-waste.

Built my own with all be quiet fans fully populated even on the aio. H6flow X670 elite 7800x3d and 4070tis $2300

I have a Gamer1+ been running almost non stop. Zero problems Love it

my psychologist: the over 2k $ pc with single intake fan is not real, he cannot hurt you. the pc: *insert meme*

This actually seems like a great deal. I went to pcpartpicker and checked out the pricing for the player two with the upgraded cpu option and their price was only about 230 bucks more than getting the parts yourself. That comes with manufacturers warranty as well so if you have any hiccups in that first year they got your back. Thanks for this Jay as I'm an aging gamer with a lot of health problems and I'm having a lot of problems with my clumsy hands. I think I'll go ahead and use this when I do my next build in a year or two.

It's odd that they don't use their own motherboards in their prebuilts - I really like the look of them.

Im with Jay, its the journey that matters to me. So enjoy building the pc more than using it

Glad you pointed that out right away

i had an acer pre build 2006 till 2009 then i switched and build my first pc self and it was awsome and time goes on its now my 3 own build pc i made for friend the builds too and they are really happy i am really happy and never had problems

Case on table actually looks like it has the ability for a decent airflow. Also it looks like a surprisingly clean build with no loose cables. Not sure if there are enough case fans for long, heavy use, but that should be easy to fix (I stopped using the side panel on my computers a long time ago.. easier to cool, easier to change stuff)

Thank you, Jay. If it weren't for you, I would have never ordered the parts to put my computer together.

I have 4 (4x16GB) sticks of Corsair Vengeance DDR5 64GB 5600MHz Expo running with no problems.

Jay, an interesting viewpoint for us (and you) would be to see if you could improve the (albeit somewhat subjective) value for money and some suggestions to undertake in for example cable-management.

In regards to xmp I think they never enable it. I got 2 pre-built from them awhile ago and I had to enable the ram overclock on my ddr4 memory

For a prebuilt computer, It's not bad and I wish all cases Had the larger holes to let air in and out like this case. I also agree that 3 fans in front Should be standard and the parts in this build are not of a low standard like most companies out there use the Cheapest mother board to get the price down or just charge way to much for their parts if you want to upgrade them.

Personally, I like to build my own. But these are options that you could recommend to a friend or loved one without worrying about the bs of pre-built systems, and that they can also expand on it and dip their toe into PC building

Something to be said about a built unit. My AMD AM5 build is down. My TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI MB blew a VRM. It was beyond the 90 day warranty, but well within the Manufacturer Warranty. ASUS showed MicroCenter as a "certified ASUS Repair Center", so I called my local MicroCenter, and they said "yep, we can accept Manufacturer Warranty Items from ASUS as we are a ASUS certified repair location. We do ask you bring in the entire system and not just the MB so that we can check to ensure it IS the MB". I said "I BUILT the unit, I did buy the parts from MicroCenter, but you did not build it up, I did." Guy said "Yep, bring it in, as long as that MB is under Manufacturer warranty we deal with it here." I took it in, and the guy at the repair counter said "Nope, we don't do that here, only if it was a pre-built system or we built it, or you purchased an extended warranty from us". ARGH!. So...$50 later in shipping and packaging...off to ASUS it goes. Currently waiting to hear if they are repairing it or just sending me another MB. Something to be said about pre-built units right there. SIGH.

I'm not interested in a pre-built in any way... i'm only watching because Jay and his team are awesome.

But if NZXT sent that to you knowing who you are, that's not a true representation of the real consumer experience. After watching Linus' Secret Shopper series and GN's reviews of prebuilt PCs, I've seen all I need to know how about much shit yo have to deal with if you buy a prebuilt.

PC looks sick, I like it, even with only 1 fan at front, less noise.

6:46 THAT Raytracing Finger there is also weird :D :D

“They’re alright if they are paying us 👍” - Jay 😂

10 years from now: "Nice fridge, but can it run Cyberpunk?" Nice system though. I love the fact that the case is off the shelf unlike some SIs. I'm a huge Fractal Design and Lian Li fangirl, but I've generally not heard too many negatives about NZXT (other than that snafu with the risers awhile back). For a prebuilt, I like it.

One of the good things about this industry is that what PC builders are putting in their systems today are going to be "cast-offs" tomorrow. Like...literally! There is such a saturated market for used components that I simply can't justify spending "premium" dollars for "premium" parts. At least, not when they'll be considered obsolete (or at least dated) in less than 5 years. The market seems to have stabilized over the last few years but that's just because the developers have yet to release the "next greatest thing" I've built several quality gaming systems that can play games in 4K low settings and not purchased a single new component for those builds and most of them came in well under $1K. Just gotta be patient and look for good deals because they're out there. Just dropping big money on a 4K monitor almost makes it not worth the cost. The 60Hz monitors are getting cheaper but a higher refresh rate screen is still north of $500 (just to play a game on!) Nah! I'm curious to see what Intel and AMD have coming next! Maybe 7GHz...8GHz?

Got nothing against SI's that use over the shelf parts, it can help the lesser technical people get started out of the box. But, building your own PC, even as a beginner... it gives you knowledge and in time it gives you experience... which makes troubleshooting easier later on. The lesser you have to depend on others the better it is. Also, personally I just find building my own systems gratifying and you can make your own esthetic decisions. You can build a simple black box with random parts or you can manually select parts to give it a theme. a PC is then not just a PC anymore but a work of art. But if that means nothing to the large group of people who just want to turn on the PC like it's a console and game... then SI's like NZXT BLD is a great option.

I have never seen a computer ready for sale that is perfect for me. that's why I've built all the computers myself and then I'm sure that everything works and I know what I've done and I know where I've placed the cable if I want to change something later

18:00 but Jay that GPU temp reading is wrong! The case side is open!! (Read with your comment impression voice) 😂

Considering it is all off the shelf parts it isn't horrible. The cooling leaves something to be desired at that price point, but it probably won't cook its self. It is when proprietary stuff is added in that I draw a line. I guess if you are really adverse to putting a PC together this is a good enough option. Considering I haven't seen Steve wreck this yet, that is saying something good.

I have triple Arctic 140mm intakes with this case. that single front fan is depressing lol

only one 120mm intake on the front blah Jay love your videos BTW

Needs more fans but I remember when I bought my last prebuilt back in 2016, there's a simplicity in it until you learn how to DIY.

I managed to pickup an open box Alienware R15 from MicroCenter Indy for $1390 otd. Before that I was adamant about building my own PC since I hadn't built one since 2012, but when I saw this deal at MC I knew it was too good to pass up. Sure it's Dell. Sure the proprietary hardware makes it almost impossible to upgrade or customize, but so far I haven't had an ounce of buyers remorse.

Hi Jay. I noticed something in your video. It would be best if you bought a larger Lazy Susan. Anyone who watches your videos should now know how to build a PC. You make it so simple a child can do it.

Build your own computer. Finish him. Flawless victory.

To think that my first monitor was 14"640x480... And that was modern! It could even handle 16 bit color!

A huge chunk of the price of that PC is to cover the cost of the warranty and free shipping. The fans are pitifully small (at least stick a 140 or two up front for that i9). The RAM is slow. I'm glad I built mine.

In my experience, Single rank ram will most likely post with XMP with all 4 slots populated, Dual rank will not post like 90% of the time with DDR5 XMP

Bet they did 4 sticks for looks, otherwise 2x32 should be the way to go.

I can see the appeal of buying the PC from a builder, because they also set it all up, bench test it and make sure it works (usually) and can swap out or problem solve what doesn't work. Less stress and headaches overall, but you do pay for that privilege. I'm not talking about big box Companies, who often make other computer peripherals, I'm talking about the dedicated PC builders/SI. I've been hit and miss with pre-built PC's. I'd prefer to pick the parts I like and then put it together though. Gives me a bit of a good feeling when it all works and knowing I put it together.

There is a third camp to build a PC. I would prefer not to build a PC but the savings I get/got buy doing it myself was significant. I built an AMD Ryzen 9 7900X, RX 7800XT, 2 1TB m.2, 32GB 6000 RAM, Arctic LF II 280, FD Pop XL, Thermaltake 850w Gold for $2000 cdn (taxes in). I good not find an SI in Canada that could come close to the specs for less the $3000 before taxes. This was my first build in over 20 years. I did not enjoy the process as I did when I was younger. PC build were much easier, less choices, than the are today. Will I build another PC, most likely. Will I enjoy it more, hopefully, now that I've gone the the learning curve with the tech leap.

When people say "Prebuilts suck" they're talking about the low-effort builds from big name companies like HP, Dell, etc. That just throw any cheap GPU and one stick of RAM in and call it a "gaming PC".

how funny would it have been if at 7:36 instead of jayz logo it was an LTT logo transition XD

I think they should have done player 3 as the entry level little brother PC. Third controller you know, and they could have left player one for the big boy PC. The first person with the first controller is usually running the show!

My son's friends parents are editors for a local news channels KZfaq, and they both picked up the level 3 Prime versions around Black Friday last year. Can't recall the discount, but they paid like 4 grand for BOTH! And... I've helped them do all sorts of neat little stuff like custom cables, hordes of fans, upgraded RAM, one got a 4090 a few months back, and have added 12TB in m.2 nvme's to both! Long story... Long! After I had added the expansion card, somehow the damn block off plates couldn't go back in. They told me they may have dropped the computer at some point... Probably why they didn't line up, AT ALL! Lol! After a while they asked NZXT what could be done, and they sent the one build in for RMA...... My heart sank when I heard they did this. I figured they would have to pay to get it shipped back cuz it has very little original shit left in it! But.... NOPE! NZXT not only complimented her rig upgrades, but they offered to do a case swap if they needed that too... The case wound up being bent up enough to need replacing, and I can't believe they offered to do it. Probably knowing that it wasn't damaged in shipping. Lol! And they did a bang up job of cable management. Way better than the new Jay'zCrew rig! ;-) With all the shitstorm of component companies being shady, or outright fartsniffing law breakers... NZXT is legit. Fur eels! They're aight. Pricey pre-built without discounts, but yeah. Good for NZXT! Hi-five SI homies!

Who in their right mind would get a 13900 build instead of 7800x3d? Especially with that single little fan

I like pre-built but ones that have lots of room for upgrading. Get a base setup and upgrade ad you go.

Saved my pennies for Digital Storm. I wanted a top tier AM5 custom pre built. Did I "overpay" compared building it myself?, of course. Will I need to upgrade in the next 10 years? Maybe not. It eats 4k gaming and does not break a sweat. And as a comparison to that 1 fan in the front thing.....mine has 6 on a 360 AIO push/ pull in the front. The highest temp I could get benchmarking the cpu was 71C. Whether you build it or buy it, my only advice is if you want the best, save up your money for the best.

Laughs in Threadripper with 8 sticks in Quad Channel... Cries in poor single core performance...

Everyone has a problem with only one front fan😂😂

As I get close to averaging my monitor's refresh rate, I pay more attention to the 1% and .1% lows. If you're getting 60fps with 20fps lows, that's still gonna be a mess to play through. I don't think cp2077 shows 1% lows, so I would use afterburner to benchmark instead.

I know that technically any pc that comes from a company is considered a “prebuilt”, but when I think of prebuilt, I think of companies like HP and Dell, that use proprietary parts, that if crap goes wrong, you’re basically stuck with a paperweight for a PC.

Just a heads up to anyone watching this video, and this might be stated in the video... They got a Player 3, just they upgraded everything they could as high as they could without turning it into a Prime, so this PC they are displaying is over $3k, at that point just start with a Player 3 Prime.

I built about 10 PCs a month for 14 years, had to install them, attach a server, give startup lessons. I don't care to build them anymore unless its a real special job. These days picking out the parts, ordering, returning, and hoping they included all the hardware, isn't worth it unless it saves lots and lots of cash.

My first computer had a 16 gig hard drive and people thought that was insane! Now we're talking about 64 gigs of RAM! wow

Nerfing the RAM probably saves NZXT a ton of support phone calls and ultimately RMAs. No point having an LED readout of temps if the readout is off by 12-15%.

i think reviews of the entry level PC's would be a great idea.

Which is why I don't mess with pre-builts. I can spend less than 2k on the same build but mine would have more than 1 intake fan.

12:22 I note temp reading from AIO is from E-cores, I cant change that on NZXTCAM

Knowing nothing about PC gaming I bought a Prebuilt a couple of years ago. It’s a AMD Ryzen 7, 5800X,3070 from Corsair for $2300. I wish I would’ve waited for the 40series if I was gonna buy a prebuilt, even though this was years ago.

Player: -Three- One Intake Fan

I want to build more computers Jay taught me everything

I hate to say it both corsair cases i have work in terms of air flow 1:47

I don't do prebuilts really due to the component constraints but custom builds are definitely my favorite option

buying prebuilt is fine as long as it doesn't have a single intake fan for 3 exhausts, 2 of which are 14O mm

i couldnt accept 1 front fan i want positive pressure. but if ppl love building pcs they could do it for a living as well as game. best of both worlds

I can build it cheaper, better and with way worse cable management. Plus, there will be screws left over. Don't know where from. But they'll be there.

I unfortunately didn't know about the issues with DDR5 and populating all the RAM slots until AFTER I had purchased my kit (4x16Gb DIMM). Thankfully it seems to run just fine at 6000 (kit speed) using XMP or whatever it is AMD calls it with an X3D chip and a really overpriced MSI board. And before anyone harasses me about putting in 64Gb of RAM, I do a fair amount in Blender and other 3D applications....it helps.

Companies who build a lot of hardware like asus or MSI could completely break the prebuild game by selling it with an absolutely minimal margin. But nooooo, they want BIG ASS MARGINS !

I miss the days when NZXT made cases that were different than anything else. I.E. their Phantom cases.

Lol, nah, in my country, people would love to build PC for us, even have ~ 5% price cut if we do purchase all the parts from them, install everything for us 😂 No hassle, no additional cost.

Any upcoming vid about Corsair one i500? Surprise ya not doing one considering how much coverage ya did on previous models

I'm too scared to build my own as the stuff you get online may not necessarily be quality. With a system integrator, at least I have a warranty for the entire system. Plus I'm 68 years old and my hands don't work right anymore.

I on the other hand believe that if you cannot build a computer legally you should not be able to legally own one

That single exhaust on the rear should be moved to the front, bottom. It would be more beneficial there.