Jeep Compass: Flashing Throttle Light & No Go

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South Main Auto LLC

South Main Auto LLC

Жыл бұрын

Come along as I have a look at this 2014 Jeep Compass that was towed in with a flashing throttle light, engine light and a customer complaint that it won't move! I found several codes P2101, P2110, P2112, and a P2118. Hmmm could this really be a no parts required fix?
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@yeahitskimmel
@yeahitskimmel Жыл бұрын
Your analysis of the Chrysler service data killed me, the guy knows they're gonna break all the time so takes mercy on diagnosing them
@steveo6631
@steveo6631 Жыл бұрын
"You know, like you're really tryin to push one out"..... That was a hell of a visual there, my guy.... You always have the most informative and entertaining vids... Killer combo....
@dB_944
@dB_944 Жыл бұрын
P2112 new slang for constipation!!
@p71fan7
@p71fan7 Жыл бұрын
😄😄😄😄😄😄
@roberttaylor3157
@roberttaylor3157 Жыл бұрын
I laughed my ass off with the facial expression and above mentioned text.
@almekanik
@almekanik Жыл бұрын
👍
@chrisknight7921
@chrisknight7921 Жыл бұрын
I thought he was giving birth there for a minute
@danp128
@danp128 Жыл бұрын
Between repairing cars and pit barrel cooking Mr. O has been putting some awesome videos out. Thanks
@mikeafa1
@mikeafa1 Жыл бұрын
You forgot the target practice with Mrs. 'O'. Good times!
@2DogsVlogs
@2DogsVlogs Жыл бұрын
@@mikeafa1 I love how she is a better shot. This Jeep might make her jealous. Being such a dirty dirty girl.
@kirbyyasha
@kirbyyasha Жыл бұрын
Mr. O has been putting out awesome videos for 7 years.
@MiguelMartinez-np8uo
@MiguelMartinez-np8uo Жыл бұрын
Dan and Michael , Facts !!
@TeemarkConvair
@TeemarkConvair Жыл бұрын
yup!!
@zeeblats
@zeeblats Жыл бұрын
Mercedes takes it to a new level. "You will not do these things or we shut the power for 10 seconds" Also, KZfaq really likes your content from 6 years ago, I've rewatched a few because of it 😊
@nonyabiz2777
@nonyabiz2777 Жыл бұрын
Oh the days when Mr O had no gray hairs. Mrs O still looks just as good as she did years ago.
@jormalonnberg1578
@jormalonnberg1578 Жыл бұрын
@@nonyabiz2777 I think , everybody who work with those rustbuckets year after year, get greys,😉, but it doesent matter, but for some like Eric O it only gives more charm.
@ryanmg92
@ryanmg92 Жыл бұрын
On some of the newer mercedes diesels, when an adblue fault occurs, they get the usual 500 miles to no start, but now there's a special little treat, when they hit around 20/25 miles remaining, they lock the driver to 12mph maximum
@ccole9080
@ccole9080 Жыл бұрын
MERCEDES / GERMAN MENTALITY Reminds me of the classic movie scene where the Nazi says " Vee have vays of making you sign zee papers "
@ccole9080
@ccole9080 Жыл бұрын
The Dutch arent much better than the Germans in the stubborn department. I worked for Philips Lighting years ago , they are a Dutch company . the plant I was at was in the U S . They built a production machine for us , very high quality, very complicated ( to a fault ), and of course very expensive. You can imagine how much fun it was to work on . We had to send a group of maintenance and engineering people to learn about the machine. They were there for a week or 2 for very slow and regimented training . No questions could be asked during the day, they had to be typed up, double spaced etc. and would be addressed at the end of the week or 2 program. Keep in mind that all of the written info , electrical, mechanical, hydraulic , and software was done with European standards and symbols and to make things even more fun In DUTCH . German is not the easiest language to learn but in a lot of ways similar to English. Dutch makes German look easy . Understandably our people needed documemtation, blueprints, schematics, parts list in English . We requested , in double spaced type of course , said info. THEIR RESPONSE : USE THEIR BLUEPRINTS, SCHEMATICS ETC AND LEARN TO SPEAK DUTCH. Their bullheaded mentality caught up with them . They had huge financial losses and plant closings. They dont manufacture in the US any more , all Asia , Mexico, South America for the cheap stuff, all the high $ work is still in Europe, always will be . Idiotic overkill bites in the butt eventually, but does a lot of damage along the way. Mercedes is a pro at it , so are the greedy corporations , lawyers and politicians. The politicians are in for a real education real soon . Old habits die hard , the dummies never learn .
@Mountain-Man-3000
@Mountain-Man-3000 Жыл бұрын
As long as there are Jeeps to break down, Eric O will be a busy man!
@thomasfletcher4765
@thomasfletcher4765 Жыл бұрын
That and Chevrolets
@JasonW.
@JasonW. Жыл бұрын
"As long as they build Jeeps"
@jhonditch4269
@jhonditch4269 Жыл бұрын
that road test with the compass makes my car seem like it's in perfect condition even though I know mine has 'issues'
@jerrylong3580
@jerrylong3580 Жыл бұрын
Gone is the day of the so called shade tree mechanic. With all the electronics now the term mechanic seems outdated. And the term technician is more the term. Congrats to you for keeping up with the times and giving people in your area someplace other than the dealership to take a vehicle. They are only as good as the warranty allows because we all know once it’s out of warranty they cant fix crap. Keep up the great content.
@consaka1
@consaka1 Жыл бұрын
Pfft. I do my best work out in the shade of a tree. VGG prefers open fields I think but then he's all about older cars.
@repete2362
@repete2362 Жыл бұрын
in Eric's lift video a guy commented he was a shade tree mechanic installing his second two post lift. as a shade tree mechanic . i had a place in the yard with a nice dip i parked over if i needed to get under the car . you know like if i needed to take the mincie out .
@NatesHomeTours
@NatesHomeTours Жыл бұрын
commenting at 3:09 I'm gonna go on a limb and say it needs a throttle body. I had the exact same thing happen with my 2010 Compass and all the same lights. I read the codes and it had codes for throttle position and throttle pedal. Did some research and found the most common thing was the gears on the throttle body go bad or the bushings on the flap. I replaced my throttle body with a Dorman full assembly as it was all I could get at the time and fixed it. It was the bushings wore down and flap was getting stuck in closed position. Never had an issue with the Dorman part.
@Darjan_Spasojevic
@Darjan_Spasojevic Жыл бұрын
I ain't gon lie, all these cars needing to be fixed, I would be a depressed fella. You the man Doc O
@meadowviewlawncarellc8079
@meadowviewlawncarellc8079 Жыл бұрын
My wife’s journey has the same engine as this jeep had p2110 code with the traction light and throttle light. Was a intermittent problem at first, that went away after turning the car off and on. It would be fine for a while then come up again out of the blue. I took off and cleaned throttle body, checked for damaged wires and was good for about 3 months before it went out completely. Put a new throttle body on and solved the problem. At the time, this past February no one had in stock except the dealer who had a few on the shelf. From what I was told they go bad often, the new one is a updated version and I had to cut in a new plug that came with the throttle body because the connections are different now. Not a hard job to do though. Thanks for the video Eric. 👍🏻
@DIYDaveOK
@DIYDaveOK Жыл бұрын
Great as always, Eric. And Ivan would be proud - No Parts Required!! Thanks!
@peterinnewyork3931
@peterinnewyork3931 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they're still a few honest mechanic's out there
@redandblackattack04
@redandblackattack04 Жыл бұрын
I love it when you have fixes like this. It's not all parts swap, it's doing what's best for the customer. Wish there were more like you out there.
@josephsteffen2378
@josephsteffen2378 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, an honest and intelligent mechanic/serviceman: when you find one, stick with him for life! I have a saying for guys like him: "I make money by saving the customer money!"
@aarongrabowski3775
@aarongrabowski3775 7 ай бұрын
@@josephsteffen2378 you took the words right out of my mouth.
@typingdude4833
@typingdude4833 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather had a brand new 1986 or so Chrysler New Yorker Fifth Avenue. That car was luxury. Smooth like a rolling sofa. A real pimp mobile. I was only a teen at the time but he let me drive it and I was thrilled. Drove it slowly around town, feeling like a king. Except that a cop followed me home, probably thinking I was a drug dealer LOL. I loved that car, the old Fifth Avenue.
@jasonthompson9817
@jasonthompson9817 Жыл бұрын
Just across the border here in Kingston. Always a pleasure to watch both channels.
@gilbertsalas8823
@gilbertsalas8823 9 ай бұрын
I have been watching videos all night!!! This was the best one that I have watched that help me understand and fix my issues. Thank you.
@Stryder-mc1lu
@Stryder-mc1lu Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy watching your troubleshooting methods !
@jimconway3301
@jimconway3301 Жыл бұрын
I had the same problem a year ago. The Jeep dealer said i needed a throttle body. Parts and labor $800. Said it was a two hour job. If it happens again i will try a can of throttle body cleaner first. LOL. Thanks for an eye opening video
@TwonSSBaybe
@TwonSSBaybe Жыл бұрын
Me too 2 years ago same issues went to Chrysler dealership paid 900 for parts and labor for throttle body now it’s 2023 same issue
@BigDaddy_MRI
@BigDaddy_MRI Жыл бұрын
I subscribed 5 years ago. 5 long, fantastic SMA viewing years ago. You da MAN, Mr. O. Great video. Ivan had a very similar issue with a FBW throttle a little while ago. Love the video. Thanks for bringing us along!! Say Hi to the family. Be safe.
@Hurlburton
@Hurlburton Жыл бұрын
Watched it Some interesting diagnostics One of the best detailed videos I've seen Keep pumping them out I will keep coming back
@josephguzek8098
@josephguzek8098 Жыл бұрын
When I was working for a shop as a teen I was cleaning the gunk off the tire machine with the good old gum cutter 2+2 and found my way to the pressure gauge. The gauge was now gunk free and super clean but not legible any more. Needless to say the boss informed me that when I get my own tire machine some day he will be paying me a visit to clean the pressure gauge for me lol😂
@jatco84
@jatco84 Жыл бұрын
Another great vid of your persistence at diagnosing electronic malfunctions to a resolution. Takes knowledge and techniques to accomplish the sometimes unknown. Kudos to you Eric....
@DialedIn57
@DialedIn57 Жыл бұрын
Awesome job! I really enjoy your videos. You’re so good at what you do and you think through issues and use logic and experience. Keep up the great work. I live in AZ and you can bet your ass if I lived near you I would take all my cars to you!! Thanks Larry
@ko9446
@ko9446 Жыл бұрын
When I worked at a Mitsubishi dealer some 20 plus years ago we did a ton of throttle body cleanings. If you called the help line that was one of the first things they would ask.
@Stover1928
@Stover1928 Жыл бұрын
You have the best diagnostics on youtube and do it with some great humor.
@robpeabo509
@robpeabo509 Жыл бұрын
A very thorough explanation at the end Eric. Much appreciated video from start to finish.
@Grandpasrcbarn
@Grandpasrcbarn Жыл бұрын
Found your channel by accident I love watching you diagnose and figuring things out thanks for sharing I’m just another gearhead
@ozzykrahn806
@ozzykrahn806 Жыл бұрын
drinking a beer, eating corn chips and watching a sma video, oh ya
@tommyross2959
@tommyross2959 Жыл бұрын
I have always worked on semi and trailers, but I really enjoy your vedios, and learning more, , thanks for your videos
@dean9498
@dean9498 Жыл бұрын
Wow...you live in a beautiful part of the country. Nice scenic test drive.
@wolvesone
@wolvesone Жыл бұрын
The shop i used to work at would not have even bothered to try and clean it they would have just fired on a new body with a 200% mark up on parts good work saving that customer money
@peterfranks7619
@peterfranks7619 Жыл бұрын
Do you get more customers because of your videos? Your personality makes it all work for me. I truly enjoy the vids. Thanks for making a chronically I’ll person put a smile on my face because of your family business. I’ll always be a subscriber.
@rubenaviles4846
@rubenaviles4846 Жыл бұрын
Been watching and learning from your channel a lot of usage of instruments and meter knowledge. Keep up the good work. Reubz
@user-dy3li9qb6e
@user-dy3li9qb6e 9 ай бұрын
I’ve had a lot of problems with my throttle body with my keep compass your video was best information I’ve reseved
@Paul1958R
@Paul1958R Жыл бұрын
Eric, Another great video and teaching moment - thank you! SMA#1 Paul (in MA)
@scifisavant_GS
@scifisavant_GS Жыл бұрын
Great video. Will definitely help me with the problem that I am having with my 2015 Jeep Patriot. Great for a little bonding to time with my son tomorrow.
@ppeters480
@ppeters480 Жыл бұрын
Good video and interesting diagnosis! I have to say one can only get the human facial expression that accurately describes the vehicle problem, only on SMA Good job Sir 🙂
@scottcolvin4138
@scottcolvin4138 Жыл бұрын
I really like that your honest. You saved that customer $300 plus labor on throttle body alone. Great job
@joeculver43
@joeculver43 9 ай бұрын
Wow you are a great technician my sister just bought a compass and had the exact same issues and my son removed and cleaned the TB and bam now fixed Thank you brother 👍👍
@allysdoggyadventures-yw4js
@allysdoggyadventures-yw4js Жыл бұрын
Great video, my friend. Sometimes, our best tools are our eyes, ears, and fingers. Keep up the great work. 👍
@edchenal821
@edchenal821 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the full explanation regarding throttle bodies. I learned something as a novice.
@TheRealMikeWilly
@TheRealMikeWilly Жыл бұрын
As an ex dealership technicians turned mobile mechanic turned Heavy Equipment Field Service Tech turned Two Bay Shop owner, I find these videos invaluable not because I am clueless. Shit, half the time I've dealt with the problem you're dealing with, I've done the same job on the same vehicle, I find your videos invaluable for the problems I haven't seen yet. I don't watch most of your videos, but I listen to all of them while I myself am spinning wrenches. You and Rainman Ray, whose name is the definition of irony this last week, are always in my ear or on the shop stereo 8+ hrs a day 6+ days a week.
@craiggoodwin9704
@craiggoodwin9704 Жыл бұрын
Eric, between the faces and the explanation of what that's all about and the summary of the current progress in electronical engineering I've found this video quite entertaining and informative. In the end I found that Jeep sounded much like my Durango after I cleaned my throttle body one Sunday afternoon. Thanks for Sharing! P.S. Is the ice cream shop still open?
@daveblack5109
@daveblack5109 Жыл бұрын
I used to see this a lot years ago where deposit build up would take the butterfly out of operational corrective range in the 'open' direction. I remember lots of VWs suffering this. A careful scrub down with break clean usually solved.. Some things never change ...
@mikeberry304
@mikeberry304 Жыл бұрын
Great fix Eric, another customer who regularly repairs their car , those Brakes 😂😂😂😂😂, throttle body gummed up big time , oil fumes , engines love it 🤗🤗🤗💪💪
@jack002tuber
@jack002tuber Жыл бұрын
We almost learned about PWM, but that's ok, you showed us that stuff before. Always an interesting time at the SMA shop
@donspringer8222
@donspringer8222 7 ай бұрын
I've cleaned many a throttle body. It's the first thing I do along with cleaning the MAF for hesitation, stalling or lack of response. 95% of the time it's the fix on most makes and models with higher mileage. Test drive then, if not fixed, diagnostics. Saves me a bunch of time and customers a bunch of $. Of course, you knew that. Quick fix with no parts and a happy customer. They usually return and tell their friends. Hope they got the brakes and bearings done to make the car safe. Great informative channel you have here....I've learned a lot. Thanks!
@meynardpalomares5007
@meynardpalomares5007 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for showing us viewers in fixing this problem. I know now what to expect from the mechanic when they use their diagnostic machine.
@jonminer9891
@jonminer9891 Жыл бұрын
hi, Mr. O. I think you nailed it. The codes pointed at a dirty throttle. You cleaned it. Done. Now I hope that the customer will let you fix his brakes or bearings, whatever that terrible noise was. But in these wonderful times, he might not have the cash. I wonder how much are you paying for gas? Anyway, thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
@YourFavDieselTech
@YourFavDieselTech Жыл бұрын
Loving the frequent uploads 😁
@41keystar14
@41keystar14 Жыл бұрын
Just traded in my 2006 Pontiac vibe with 217,600 miles for the 2014 compass with 45,000 mile I hope that it’s as easy to work on as the vibe I’m getting cold feet, I utilized your Corolla wheel bearing video to press one on the vibe. Bought a OEM bearing kit. You provided top notch instruction! 👍
@gregorylewis8471
@gregorylewis8471 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Eric! I enjoy watching your troubleshooting efforts! I'm new to the automotive electronics bit and I was involved with industrial process control for a good part of my life. It's interesting to see how the automotive engineers have "re-imagined" electric and data control circuits. I know that they are cost driven, but it makes me wonder how cost efficient it really is except for manufacturing. When you described the throttle body motor circuit and the redundancy involved it reminds me of what we call in process control and fire & watch systems as "supervision." It is a way of determining the true state of a device in control, or if the circuitry or electronics driving it have been compromised. Thanks again! 😁
@gregorylewis8471
@gregorylewis8471 Жыл бұрын
@@dizzy2020 All they have EVER cared about is assembly. Decades ago when cars had frames, I saw assembly lines where the frames were upside down. They put the shim packs in for front end alignment. Then when the owner of that shiny new car finally has to have a front end alignment, the bolts are loosened and the shim packs fall out! And over the decades nothing has changed. They find the cheapest way to assemble a vehicle and the customer be damned!
@crasher88
@crasher88 Жыл бұрын
Dr. O another great video as usual. Wish you would have demonstrated more in depth on how you were manipulating the throttle body motors by just attaching jumpers to the battery.
@jamesandrews1130
@jamesandrews1130 Жыл бұрын
got to love your work. it helps me immensely. i am a big boy Newfoundlander at 62 its getting harder to do some jobs. you always remind me to be nice. please vote in november.
@brucejones2354
@brucejones2354 Жыл бұрын
I liked the "vote" comment so much I clicked the like button 7 times!
@adancarrillo9675
@adancarrillo9675 Жыл бұрын
Was having a similar problem with my 2003 Chevy S10 with the lil 2.2 liter engine. Cleaned the throttle body and WaLa it's been running good ever since. Thanks for the help.
@ronwatson4902
@ronwatson4902 Жыл бұрын
Nice job on the throttle body1 Looked like brand new and it worked. My friend brought me the AFB carb off his 63 Vette to rebuild. I'll probably use the same method as you to clean it. Thanks for rockin these videos Eric. Appreciate it.
@billk5727
@billk5727 Жыл бұрын
ron watson 340 horse?
@chadsmith2036
@chadsmith2036 Жыл бұрын
Always good content. You do your customers right.
@jraydelatorre
@jraydelatorre Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the old houses in your town reminds me of my childhood and growing up around certain areas of Atlanta Georgia when we were young boys my dad bought an old house that was built around the turn of the century I think it had been constructed in 1901 then an addition in 1910 and then sometime in the 20s or 30s plumbing was added and electrical so when the house was originally built it had an out house in the backyard oil lanterns and sconces with candles probably around 10 to 15 years after the fort McPherson military base had opened
@jeffingersoll5666
@jeffingersoll5666 10 ай бұрын
hey bud love your show I always learn something new
@Mikheno
@Mikheno Жыл бұрын
Had a similar thing happen to a 2003 Jetta TDI. Being a diesel engine there's no throttle of course but it did have an anti-shutter-valve that kept the engine for sputtering on shut down. That thing got gummed up and stayed shut on the next startup. No codes so it had me confused for a while but I figured it out and cleaned it just like what you did. Fixed! I had to pull that ASV about every two or three years and clean out the gunk or it would freeze up and no start.
@richc9503
@richc9503 Жыл бұрын
Good job. I used to see these all of the time. Often enough I started selling throttle body cleaning to my customers, always cheaper to maintain it then to fix it!
@josephsteffen2378
@josephsteffen2378 Жыл бұрын
I really liked this video. The throttle plate, linkages, and associated sensors are the cause of almost all drivability problems. They are extremely reliable: if properly set. Then there is the "Industrial Hygiene": keeping the important things clean and lubricated. No matter how well someone is designed or manufactured; things do get dirty and do wear. In this case, he took the time to clean the throttle body assembly, rather than replacing it. ...getting another couple years out of it and saving the customer some money.
@louisgranado4861
@louisgranado4861 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your contact card your repairs jobs very informative keep on rocking
@johndavis1465
@johndavis1465 Жыл бұрын
The postive and negative wave at the same time/phase is called a differential signal for noise suppression
@alanrodriguez7341
@alanrodriguez7341 Жыл бұрын
A customer at the auto store stated he had the same issues. Sometimes it would throw the same codes. Thanks for your Channel he knows what to say when he takes it in for any repairs.
@ohger1
@ohger1 Жыл бұрын
Guaranteed the throttle body is still bad. The gears inside get chewed up. Just change it out (20 minutes) with a Hitachi and it's fixed for years.
@jkbrown5496
@jkbrown5496 Жыл бұрын
I've been looking into refrigerator issues and using skills learned watching these videos. They call it the "control board" but really it is the RCM - refrigerator control module. And you need wiring diagrams as they change wire colors on you. But with the diagram, you can test from the RCM plug. And they have evaporators for the freezer and fresh food now with a three-way valve to make things complicated.
@stationaryenginesworldwide
@stationaryenginesworldwide Жыл бұрын
amazing video Eric thank you for today's entertainment and learning video got to keep those throttle body's clean
@kylebailey8498
@kylebailey8498 Жыл бұрын
Sma never disappoints!!!!
@williamholcombe31
@williamholcombe31 Жыл бұрын
My guy back again thanks for the 🎥
@VashthStampeede
@VashthStampeede Жыл бұрын
I liked the accelerometer/decellerometer turn and bank indicator hanging from the mirror. Push one out was classic.
@joehomanick
@joehomanick Жыл бұрын
Hey Eric those do the self test when you turn the key on you can hear them make a tap / tap / tap just before you start the car . I had one that had the exact issue and I tried cleaning it . It was ok for 3 days and acted up again . Came back and had to put a throttle body on it 🫡! Thanks for your videos!!
@PeterDiCapua
@PeterDiCapua Жыл бұрын
that 2+2 stuff is bad news. Thanks for doing a good job once again
@williamgagnonroadboxservice
@williamgagnonroadboxservice Жыл бұрын
As a mechanic you know I gotta have a pocket in my T-shirt I would love to own every T-shirt you put out I wish they just put a pocket in it… And that throttle body someday it might run by Bluetooth that’ll really suck!! I work on a lot of old stuff here in Massachusetts and I still work on throttles with cables they gum up and mess up just as bad as the electronic ones
@benjaminlewis671
@benjaminlewis671 Жыл бұрын
I finally got caught up to a recent video, I've been binging because I really don't want to change my alternator and I'm looking for some added confidence. I'm guessing 30v AC at the battery isn't a good thing. Here's to fixing that parasitic draw after 18 months.
@1ronco
@1ronco Жыл бұрын
Eric, I have subscribed, unsubscribed, rung the damn bell .....stood on my head, but your videos are NEVER in the "recommended" or "recently uploaded" lists. I go through all my subscriptions to find your channel then find ones I have not seen yet. I don't have this problem with other subscriptions. Might want to check with KZfaq.....have any others had this problem? In any case, your videos are worth looking for, always very informative and with the right amount of humor! Go Zeldin!!!!!
@amber07701
@amber07701 Жыл бұрын
Good video, keep your digits out of things while the camera is off. Hard thing to do when your right there and just need to get it done
@Treeves30
@Treeves30 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Mrs. O realizes Eric took one of her baking pans from the kitchen. (Eric secretly returns pan back to cupboard without Mrs. O realizing IT's A PART CLEANING TUB) LOL. Love the video's Eric!
@jamesshrum4406
@jamesshrum4406 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos I learn a lot from them
@davidmcclain5180
@davidmcclain5180 Жыл бұрын
Even though it was trying to "push one out", it looks like you cleaned out the restriction so that it doesn't have to push so hard! Great video as usual.
@Gadgetstoolbox
@Gadgetstoolbox Жыл бұрын
I had a similar problem with the butterfly valve sticking closed. Drove all day then all of a sudden I couldn't move the throttle. Cleaned it up and it's been fine ever since. Cleaned a bunch of butterfly valves for others too. No parts required fixes are awesome. Stuff you didn't see before direct injection.
@BrianB14471
@BrianB14471 Жыл бұрын
Eric - on the old school throttle cable - I had a Ford Fairmont back in 1989 that had the manual throttle cable stick wide open down in Bath NY going through the main light by the expressway. Shut it off quick enough, unstuck it and then drove up to the old parts store across from the library and bought some spray to lubricate it up. Throttle by wire is designed to fail closed.
@jackiemay9471
@jackiemay9471 Жыл бұрын
love your videos in all of their many forms thank you dr O
@joshpean8527
@joshpean8527 Жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one that talked through the intake tube when I take em off!
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 Жыл бұрын
I’m still early in the video, but the feeling of misfiring when sitting in idle in park after you had the throttle limp mode is because the ECM is limiting the engine speed down to 1500rpm by shutting off injectors. When the throttle hits limp mode, it will shut the power to the throttle motor off and the throttle will sit at about 10-15% open. When you were pushing the throttle and it revved up to like 2500rpm from 1500rpm, the only thing that was changing on the engine was re-enabling all the fuel injectors (and maybe changing ignition timing). The throttle body didn’t move at all, because the power to it was shut off. It would feel like it smoothed out when you shifted into gear because the additional load of the transmission being in gear was enough for it to be able to re-enable the injector(s) it was turning off and still stay within the rpm range that it was happy with.
@MrLeavemikealone
@MrLeavemikealone Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing too that the heat from the engine might play a role in expansion where the throttle sticks less after things warm up. Nice job going right to the problem and trying not to fire off the parts cannon.
@Plus8Precision
@Plus8Precision Жыл бұрын
Hello Eric O, I have a 2014 Chrysler 200 4 banger 259K miles owned since new. I replaced the factory throttle body with a mopar throttle at about 130K. In your video you said you were unsure when the pcm is performing its test cycles. For me the thing always went wonky at a stop light. It did it to me last summer and I cleaned the throttle body and it did it to me this morning coming into work. The code I get is P2173 to much air flow I checked for vacuum leaks last summer and found nothing. Its been golden until this morning. Im a subscriber because of your methodology to finding the root cause of issues its the only way to do it on todays vehicles. Mike - Plus8Precision
@johndesaavedra1040
@johndesaavedra1040 Жыл бұрын
It's my opinion that a tuneup should include cleaning the throttle body and MAF. I believe this would prevent 90% of the throttle body faults. Maybe avoiding Chrysler products would help too.
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews Жыл бұрын
You turn wrenches for a living?
@ElantraFukkenGang
@ElantraFukkenGang Жыл бұрын
100% should be part of the 30k tune up with the spark plugs. FCA connectors notorious for the crusties, and the spot where the TB is gets VERY dirty.
@atlesifeyst2185
@atlesifeyst2185 Жыл бұрын
@@ShainAndrews is that relevant?
@thagerdorn2009
@thagerdorn2009 10 ай бұрын
​@@ShainAndrewsdoesn't fuckin matter dude...he's stating a fact. I've been turning wrenches for 15 plus years... ANYTIME I remove the intake hose the throttle body and maf get cleaned...but it should absolutely be included on a "tune-up", especially since cars these days don't have plug wires and caps and rotors etc...people that say you need to replace coils during a tune up are idiots. Coils don't fail that often. It's normally the coil boot with the spring. And you can replace those separate. I've only had one coil fail on two vehicles I've owned over the last 14 years...and I've bought and sold over 200 cars over that time.
@jessejames96
@jessejames96 8 ай бұрын
@@ElantraFukkenGangnewer spark plugs are good for 100K miles
@Steelrailbearing
@Steelrailbearing Жыл бұрын
I really like this channel, (I just found it) and happy to subscribe... It's encouraging to see people actually want to Diagnose and repair automobiles today. The horror stories about the inability to fix problems with automobiles are endless.
@huzudra
@huzudra Жыл бұрын
My experience with these is that the gear train inside wears out and starts to get a bunch of play in it which hinders the plate from closing or opening to the proper position when commanded. Aftermarket bodies are useless and don't last, dealer only which means probably the updated connector. I've taken apart a couple GM units and found that there was just a bunch of lash in the gears between motor and plate, the ECM would command X% throttle but the lash would prevent that from being achieved AND if the TB was extra dirty it would bind up more than the return spring could pull it and with the slop in the gears the motor couldn't pull it further either. GM's go-to symptom was a crank no start or start and die that needed a bit of manual throttle pedal to get the car started. With Chrysler it's just codes and limp mode, but you can certainly feel and hear a big difference between a new and old unit. I'll echo others, it'll probably be back but it's a commendable and honest effort to try the cheaper repair first. If it does come back please update us and show a wiggle test between new and old throttle plates!
@garyglenn1445
@garyglenn1445 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how you seem to be able to fix mostly anything, but you can take your car to the dealer, and they can't seem to fix anything. Nice work as always!!
@scurfie2343
@scurfie2343 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen a throtle body that gummed up before. It's impressive it worked at all before cleaning.
@svyat4178
@svyat4178 3 күн бұрын
Excellent diagnostics! I really liked the logic of working with error codes. I don't think this throttle valve will work for long. Most likely, the plastic gear of the damper drive is already damaged. You can even hear it when you turn on the ignition. There will be a sound similar to a quiet crack. I was surprised that there wasn't a lot of oil inside. This means the PCV valve is still doing its job. If you decide to wash the damper and see a lot of oil, be sure to change the PCV valve.
@jamesspash5561
@jamesspash5561 Жыл бұрын
Just experienced similar with a Subaru. Throttle position error, entering limp mode. Found, part of the inlet duct delaminated and lodged in the throttle blade. Research revealed a service bulletin on inlet duct delamination from Subaru.
@averywellsand888
@averywellsand888 Жыл бұрын
What year
@ivanolsen7966
@ivanolsen7966 Жыл бұрын
yikes ( Australia )
@jeffreybrookes9731
@jeffreybrookes9731 Жыл бұрын
You commented about 2 + 2 my buddy Mikey Gabe from major Auto in Philadelphia used to use that stuff by the cases loved it good stuff
@kenburt8938
@kenburt8938 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent SMA video & repair.
@paddle_shift
@paddle_shift Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words
@djsi38t
@djsi38t Жыл бұрын
The whole time I am screaming...Just clean the Effin thing!...and by golly you did.This video was of particular interest for me cuz..I have a 2013 Avenger...same exact motor set up.And by the way my Chrysler"Complete garbage" as you put it I bought used 5 years ago and it has been absolutely perfect,not a single thing wrong with it... and its now a 10 year old car and I am very pleased with my 2013 Avenger.These motors when cared for are extremely reliable having their roots at Hyundai.Literally millions of them on the road today happily laying down the miles.
@jamesbruno5896
@jamesbruno5896 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like she needs some love! Thanks for sharing 👍
@georgemeeker9459
@georgemeeker9459 Жыл бұрын
Great troubleshooting and deduction. No need to through new parts on if cleaning it gets you back to normal ops
@fascistpedant758
@fascistpedant758 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I miss the rod linkage we had before cables. The ones that pulled the throttle open when you broke an engine mount.
@lvsqcsl
@lvsqcsl Жыл бұрын
I actually had that happen on a 1960 Pontiac. The thing just took off!
@CycleGeezer-cq9lm
@CycleGeezer-cq9lm Жыл бұрын
Yep! I agree with that. Had a 1969 Ford Fairlane 500. At 6000 miles the motor came off the mounts on a full throttle start and stayed at full throttle as it ate right through the radiator. Flat footed brakes and a fast ignition key switch off was all that saved the day. I think it took my 17 rear old eyes 👀 about thirty minutes to get back down to normal size. Ahh, ....the memories!!
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