Jeff Pilson on what made George Lynch SNAP During Dokken's Tooth and Nail, "It went horribly awry"

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3 ай бұрын

2024 full in bloom interview with Dokken/Foreigner/The End Machine bassist Jeff Pilson. Jeff talks about the drama surrounding the recording of Dokken's 1984 album, Tooth and Nail, Tom Werman, George Lynch, Don Dokken, Roy Thomas Baker, Michael Wagener, and Geoff Workman.
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@dwade6322 3 ай бұрын

Pilson has NEVER sounded like a bitter,or petty person. He is articulate in interviews,and i believe anything he says about the past. 👍

@robpaxson4455 3 ай бұрын

Reading Werman’s book now, he said Jeff was the peacekeeper between Don and George, and later between Jason Bonham and Zakk Wylde on the Rockstar soundtrack

@gun_toting_lefty Ай бұрын

Yes, I can ALWAYS listen to Jeff about the past and learn something useful and new. George or Don? There's ALWAYS a "here we go again" moment of bitterness. I can't listen to their interviews anymore. Thank God for Jeff [and Mick].

@insidethemusicalmind7207 27 күн бұрын

I've interviewed Jeff Pilson. He is absolutely a very nice guy and of course tremendously talented.

@SouthJerseyMatt 3 ай бұрын

I never thought I’d know so much about the 80’s rock scene, thanks ‘full in bloom’. All these details make the songs new again in a way

@mhitson7483 3 ай бұрын

Love these deep dives into the creation of the seminal records of eigties hard rock. Full in bloom asks the best questions and steers the discussion perfectly

@MrOctober44 3 ай бұрын

Well said

@lundad 2 ай бұрын

He is a master. The Howard Stern of music interviews

@user-cruton 2 ай бұрын

I met Jeff Pilson at a restaurant one night. He was super cool. I had a ton of questions about Dio Strange Highways record that he played on. He answered them all and talked great about everyone he played with.

@akpistol141 3 ай бұрын

Under Lock & Key, a masterpiece

@stephensanchez9590 3 ай бұрын

Yes it is love that album

@thomasbrogan9102 3 ай бұрын

"Don't Close Your Eyes"

@jamescon55 16 күн бұрын

@@thomasbrogan9102 "Don't Close Your Eyes" is actually from the 2nd release TOOTH AND NAIL....Soooo,,,, IDK WHY you mention THAT track (outta nowhere) in relation to a UNDER LOCK AND KEY topic/conversation , BUT.....???...I guess? ...GLAD that you like THAT track ,,🤔,, "MAYBE? I guess, heck IDK" 🥴. LOL....🤘🔥🤘

@thomasbrogan9102 16 күн бұрын

@@jamescon55 Hmm. Idk. Ide hafta listen to the clip again to maybe recall why I said that ... maybe tomorrow. 😴 💤 🛏

@michaelmichaels138 3 ай бұрын

I never bought a Dokken album but I love these stories and Pilson is great at relating them.

@Living_EDventures 3 ай бұрын

I never got into them till Back for the Attack. Wish I would of seen them in concert.

@elevenAD 17 күн бұрын

@@Living_EDventuresPhilly show they were in there prime!

@cowboysnoteggheads 3 ай бұрын

Jeff Pilson is the most reasonable and accountable voice is this whole story. Bless him. I loved the album. It changed my life if I'm being honest. I just kept reading the album liners and asked myself who the hell is George Lynch -- he sounds amazing.

@davidellis5141 3 ай бұрын

Working with Tom Werner , Geoff Workman & Roy Thomas Baker all on one record & it better be a hit !

@paulthompson8642 3 ай бұрын

Thanks again

@DirtyBlues8 3 ай бұрын

Love these interviews. Thanks for sharing : )

@rick3747 3 ай бұрын

In 1984, I was 18 and was introduced to "Tooth and Nail" from two of my best buds (Marcos and "Pils") I am still a big Dokken/Lynch fan. RIP Marcos

@WAM4EVER 3 ай бұрын

Jeff is definitely the voice of reason.

@scottwhite2757 3 ай бұрын

Excellent interview.. The music business surely is interesting..

@scottlasley4593 3 ай бұрын

Another super cool interview! Love this so much! Thank you 🙏❤

@mifunegoh4773 3 ай бұрын

Great, great interview, as always. Thank you!

@lanceraustin 3 ай бұрын

Love the FIB interviewing style. Asking that one last, tough question. It's always the one the fans are wondering about. It's usually repelled by the artist for being on a touchy subject, but presented respectfully, and pivoted away from seamlessly. Love it

@patrickmoreau7592 3 ай бұрын

Wow. This a great interview

@adampaul4566 3 ай бұрын

😊🙃💚 JEFF.... WE LOVE YOU YOU ARE Sooooo Honest..... You're the BEST‼️.....( I saw y'all on the Dio/Dokken tour in Houston.... Best Mementoes of my Youth‼️‼️💚🌄 Thank you✨

@MrFRO4484 3 ай бұрын

He wasn’t very honest when the prank blew up in his face

@MrOctober44 3 ай бұрын

As usual with Dokken, if you want the truth, go to Jeff.

@MrJimi777 3 ай бұрын

Tooth and Nail is in my top 5 favs Just a Great Album.. Turn On the Action Rocks.

@garythomas4431 2 ай бұрын

I always enjoy Jeff's interviews. He seems to give a good perspective without stepping on people, and admits to his own good and bad personal experiences.

@surfingrandpa 3 ай бұрын

This was the same crew that did Motley Crue ‘s Shout at the Devil (Crue’s last good album).

@DavidJones-lw2qc Ай бұрын

That means cruel had two good albums and that's it and I agree 😊

@diamondd2778 3 ай бұрын

I love Jeff. Absolute legend n the most honest interview you can get . Absolute respect ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@christopheryanik9430 3 ай бұрын

Is there a podcast version of Full in Bloom somewhere other than KZfaq? I see there's one on Spotify, but the most recent episode is 2022. Love the show btw!

@terrywade8361 3 ай бұрын

Jeff is great

@ThemFuzzyMonsters 3 ай бұрын

Great job! 👍🏻 The next Dokken story I’d like to hear about is the “Bagel” fight in 1997.

@antoniogoncalves8288 3 ай бұрын

I always loved George Lynch guitar tone on this album

@elevenAD 17 күн бұрын

this channel is so effin good!

@td8778 3 ай бұрын

I never had a great stereo but I never fully heard the bass in Dokken until Beast. I wonder if he was happy with the bass guitar level back then.

@jimdickson7953 2 ай бұрын

It's cool hearing someone talk with total clarity no unnecessary cussing, his voice sounds a lot like Greg Macaroy

@whamsie4022 3 ай бұрын

Producers should let their work speak for itself and keep their mouths shut… but Werman does have a book to sell.

@eddiepigg5333 3 ай бұрын

“Tooth and Nail” is such a classic hard rock/ heavy metal album. It’s too bad that they went so commercial and lost that edge. I couldn’t play in a band with people that I didn’t like or couldn’t work with.

@finediningandbreathing07 3 ай бұрын

Tooth and Nail was just as "commercial" as Under Lock and Key. What're you talking about? Not only that, but their heaviest album, Back for the Attack, came right after Under Lock and Key.

@robertgoodwinr6523 2 ай бұрын

Their best album hands down. Still my favorite and love the sound on that one. Very aggressive in a good way.

@josephrohland5604 3 ай бұрын

Jeff Pilson ROCKS....

@jamescaldwell982 3 ай бұрын

Awesomeness 🤘💀🤘

@mariospensieri941 7 күн бұрын

Jeff is that Great guy... As a Musician I would Love to hang out and play With Him and See What We Could Acomplish....

@mrscary3721 Ай бұрын

Jeff is so cool. Laid back. Funny to hear him talk about not being happy with the sound of Tooth and Nail's finished product. To me, sonically, it's great. Never even considered something to be unhappy about. But, apparently he would know what he expected and I didn't have another version to compare it to...

@shorerocks 3 ай бұрын

Ah, like children. Rock 'n' Roll Children. And what an album.

@redpillredpill3216 2 ай бұрын

Jeff is the professional player everyone wants to work with. The dudes in Foreigner now...that speaks to his work ethic.

@playAgainMe 3 ай бұрын

I'm just saying I Love the band Dokken. I never saw them live but saw Lynch Mob in 91 And they were Rickin.

@Rugz-smoke 3 ай бұрын

I’ll always hold myself accountable for my part

@machupikachu1085 3 ай бұрын

So it was Geoff and Jeff after all.....interesting.

@helio1055 Ай бұрын

Tooth& Nail was my favorite production

@user-du1yk7uk9v 3 ай бұрын

Best Dokken album is Breaking the chains ...wonderful guitar tone and great vocal by Don....melodies and harmonies to die for.

@jeffs4760 Ай бұрын

That's crazy because I think Back for the Attack was great even with the drug use. Hell maybe we wouldn't have gotten "Mr Scary"?

@edwinh7908 3 ай бұрын

Great Album! Only Thing There Was Too much Echo & Reverb.

@supersithlord 3 ай бұрын

I disagree about distortion. The guitar on T&N souded PERFECT. It sounded lousy on Under Lock & Key.

@jamescon55 3 ай бұрын

Definitely HAD MORE ballz than Lock n Key...As good as "Lock" could've possibly BEEN that is......

@elevenAD 17 күн бұрын

@@jamescon55 dang now i have to go compare the 2!

@elevenAD 17 күн бұрын

OK Of the 2 i dig the Tooth and Nail tone more but both rock imho!

@jamescon55 17 күн бұрын

@@elevenAD I do like, "SOME of the stuff" on Under Lock but...? For me, personally, it's just a bit TOO sappy for my taste/opinion.... I heard "Tooth" not long after release, and it just didn't do anything for me, THEN...Fast forward to Back for the Attack release and I REALLY liked it, WENT BACK to Tooth n Nail, and LOVED it...Seen "The Hunter" video after that, and so? I guess, MY "expectations" for Under Lock were fairly high and so, when I acquired it 2nd to last,...? I WAS, pretty "let down"... But? NOTHING like, WHEN I bought "Breaking the Chains"! As? I LOVE THAT track, and I HAD heard Paris is Burning on late night METAL radio show but AFTER hearing the whole LP, and to THIS day? I think it IS, one of the genre's WORST and ALL out cheesy LPs of it's time 😒... But yeah man! HUGE Lynch fan (and I am a METAL drummer NOT a guitarist in ANY way/COULDN'T play the instrument to SAVE MY LIFE!) so...Yeah...LOVE the 2 Dokken LPs, with some tracks off Under Lock and a couple tracks off the 1st one 😎🤘🔥🤘

@elevenAD 16 күн бұрын

@@jamescon55 ❤

@DanteSpinotti1 3 ай бұрын

I always knew Pilson was the adult in the room

@MasterSumai 3 ай бұрын

Don & George hate one another.

@jamescon55 3 ай бұрын

So Tom Werman ALSO said to Pilson (during Tooth n Nail vocal production) "HERE! Yeah , YOU DEAL WITH THIS A-HOLE/ GUY!" ( via DON DOKKEN) as well...🤭🤣.. Lol. JEFF PILSON 😎 , the VERY REASON, that we WERE able to get WHAT WE DID GET, MUSICALLY, from the band DOKKEN 😏. The moderator.....Thx again for the interview 🤘🔥🤘

@UnderWorldOfDarkness 3 ай бұрын

The distortion on George’s guitar work is fine on Tooth and Nail. ... Perhaps these guys should stop giving interviews. The more they talk, the more cheesy they come across as being.

@greggheslin2724 3 ай бұрын

Spot on.. it makes me realize everything I loved about the musicianship and music is a Lie after all these years. Like give a break. We loved this stuff and now they ruin it for me.

@TheEndOfYou2 2 ай бұрын

I actually love Tooth and Nail because of the heaviness. Same with Breaking the Chains. Under Lock and Key was too commercial and for lack of a better of a term.. cute.

@SavDog262 3 ай бұрын

Don needs to sell the Dokken name and catalog to Jeff and George and they can get a good singer to carry on the great music. Instead of the carcass thats currently touring.

@1970borntorun 3 ай бұрын

I agree. I saw Dokken 3 years ago with Jon Levin, and the guy is good at being an "80s hot licks" player, but he overplayed all the solos and adds nothing to the Dokken legacy. If anything, Reb Beach was the best guitarist Dokken ever had - and I'm including George when I say that. Reb is like Randy Rhoads. Theory, Tone, Composition and feeling. George just kinda sprays notes and squeals all over the fretboard and hopes something sounds good.

@SavDog262 3 ай бұрын

@@1970borntorun great point on the “hot licks” remark. He probably learned everything on the Lynch VHS lesson and went for it. I’d argue though that John Norum was probably the best guitar player, although technically not an official “Dokken” record but more of a solo record. Up From The Ashes is straight fire, and could be the best record Don ever did. Not to take away from Dons contributions to metal, because at one time he had a super smooth voice, strong, and great vibrato, similar to James Labrie. Very similar. But today the songs should be treated with dignity and presented in a way that doesn’t leave the audience questioning WTF was that shit, after a show. Sell the catalog and name, find a new singer and present the songs with dignity.

@kingtrance307 3 ай бұрын

@@SavDog262- Or just quit (STOP TOURING) 🛑 altogether and call it a day. It’s even sadder when great bands don’t know when to just stop and they only keep touring to milk revenue. That’s the best way to honor the legacy and then everyone is free to go out and just create something new. Lynch and Pilson have obviously been doing just that with the End Machine! 👍

@SavDog262 3 ай бұрын

Thanks, I’ll have to check out the end machine.

@amerocker 3 ай бұрын

'Tooth and Nail' is my favorite Dokken record and the first one I bought. 'Under Lock and Key' is way over produced.

@RS-ol8or 3 ай бұрын

Always thought Back for the Attack had not only the best sound overall, but Lynch's best guitar sound, plus the songs were killer. T & N would be next for me, with L & K third. L&K always sounded overproduced; I know they had hits with the album, but it paled to BftA & T&N. Also interesting that Lynch wasn't the devil that Weman & Don made him out to be. Imagine that! In fact, Weman's recollections sound almost as conflated as Don's do; yeah, he was credited with amazing albums, but in interviews he didn't come across as trustworthy.

@clamdigr 3 ай бұрын

Yep, BFTA FTW, great album all around. I love when the guitar comes on "Lost Behind the Wall".

@nas4ra2 2 ай бұрын

I thought Tooth and Nail was one of there best albums even with the production style which IMO added to that album

@mineofilms 3 ай бұрын

I still do not "love" the production value (sound/tone) of both Breakin' the Chains and Tooth & Nail. I always felt like Elektra's early 80s records had a "quality control" issue. Dokken been a band what? 5-7 years at this point and didn't have a decent "sounding" record till 1985? They are a better band than that, but I get it.

@michaelmcclellan1362 3 ай бұрын

Lynch used Randall amos on that record and they sound like crap. he went back to marshall on Under Lock n Key

@NOTCHMusic6724 2 ай бұрын

Shout at the Devil sounds nothing like Tooth and Nail

@dalepiwek 3 ай бұрын

Killer brother

@DrTomoculus 3 ай бұрын

It's funny. Steve Porcaro of Toto swears by Geoff Workman. But I have just never liked any of the work he did on albums. Tom Werman had a great engineer in Gary Ladinsky, which is why I say the work George Martin & Geoff Emerick did on Cheap Trick's All Shook Up makes that album sound dull and listless compared to everything that came before it. Jack Douglas OR Tom Werman. And they lost their bassist, and they lost all the momentum Budokan / Police had given them. But Geoff Workman. Work he does clips and distorts. I hear sibilance on the albums he engineered. They're just not well recorded OR the final mix is effected by what he does after the button is pushed. They sound boxy and overdriven. It's not Werman making Tooth and Nail "funny", it's Geoff Workman.

@MrFRO4484 3 ай бұрын

Wow…the more interviews I hear, with Dokken members, the more I believe Don’s accounts of why and how the band’s problems started and fucked up their careers. That was a bullshit way to treat your fucking producer!

@Scoleshow 2 ай бұрын

They made Tom sound geigh with the edits and George didn't like geighs

@dosgos 2 ай бұрын

I thought most of the songs sounded great. I wonder if there was opportunity to remix (albeit everyone is deaf now and they would compress the daylights out of the songs).

@DannyHood-j 3 ай бұрын

I don’t think these albums aged that well. Ratt I loved everything guitar tone even vocals (even though he’s not some great singer) the sound production made him. But I don’t listen to invasion privacy anymore. Not that I wouldn’t listen, sometimes crosses my mind maybe once a year, decide not to listen.

@user-eq4yb4uu9c 3 ай бұрын

I always thought Dokken sucked!