That's but one single factor your citing. Think a bit bigger.

shyness is a stereotype for serial killers as its associated with trauma - the host mentioned gasey and bundy, whom neither of were shy.

I was shy , but I NEVER hurt anyone !!

I was shy n never had child trauma.just shy

It was extreme shyness but also leans on anti-social behavior

Or karma

Y’all can’t pass judgement on this guy.

Yes, so refreshing

@@drezification His evil actions judged him

@@drezification

no kidding. I was already getting annoyed with part 1. What a terrible interviewer. He had an opportunity to really get some information but he blew it.

He kept cutting off the father to ask the stepmother questions. She didn’t even enter the family until Dahmer was 18; the father would have infinitely better perspective

Amen.. I wanted to hear what the father was saying 💯

I'm not quite so hubristic, Larry's steering this ship, it's kinda in his repertoire

@@ttacking_you i've heard him steer the ship with many guests but not cut them off like he's doing here.

Duh genius actors study the real people they play for accents mannerisms and more 🙄🤡

@@catmejia6109 how can you study to have the same voice as someone? Do you have brain damage LOL

Yeah dog but Richard Jenkins doesn't sound like Dahmer's Dad it's more like Dahmers dad kind of sounds like Richard Jenkins

Let's do a dahmer

@@thakiid8568 go on then - and end up like him 😂 battered

Parental biased is unreal.

right

Jeffrey’s killer did an interview a few years ago where he basically said the same thing Jeffrey’s parents said here. He also believed that it was set up by the prison and allowed to happen.

@@egglady no one could ever convince me that it wasn’t ‘allowed’. The guards knew exactly what they were doing

His dad abused him I saw a neighbor on Phil Donahue show that played back then Its on you tube

He also played Dale's dad on step brothers lol,pretty diverse casting.

Even down to his voice

Richard Jenkins has been on a lot of good movies! The first thing I remember seeing him in was The Witches of Eastwick. I also liked him in Wolf and The Indian In The Cupboard. 😋 Ohh and we can’t forget him in Stepbrothers!!!

@@GrilledCheesi The Cabin inthe Woods.

@@GrilledCheesi Flirting With Disaster, too!

Come on you know why, look at Jeff and his parents, look at most of his victims....

@@John-ct9zs so true....

@@loveisthekey7 It's disgusting how much compassion and empathy I see for Dahmer online. Well he was a misunderstood kid, he was lonely, he came from a broken home....I mean seriously who cares? None of that justifies what this man did.

Racism

@@John-ct9zs exactly, all of that is out the window after all the sick ish he did, people are sick in their head, they'll look past all the terrible things a person has done just they are famous or got some clout, Fk dahmer, he never ever felt remorse and admitted that he wanted to continue doing that sh** after the fact

People drink fizzy drinks, bottled water everyday and they don't know whose making them, really.....

Right?!

So i assume you dont go out much then? I dont think bars, clubs and restaurants lets you go behind the counter to make your own drinks 🤣

@@myleague90 they’re talking about at bars, clubs. restaurants, anywhere…someone’s home even…if you can watch them make your drink, then do so. If not, we’re left to trust them. I’d say more like not leaving your drink and walking away. Always have it in your possession and if you have to walk away and plan on coming back to it, take it with you, if possible. If not, drink it down. As much as possible, WATCH your drink being made. Not everyone is your friend, including ones that you might think are! Jeff was notorious for ordering these guys drinks at a bar then spiking them with drugs. Same at his home. That’s the mistake a lot of them made…TRUSTING him even tho they didn’t know him b/c he came off calm, cool and collected…they were made to feel at ease and let their guard down. Never let your guard down. Just saying.

I hung out with an ex bf and after awhile he slipped meth in my drink .. needless to say that was the last time I saw that evil bastard .

So true and so sad

We've also learned that Dahmer's dad has that same pseudo calmness that dahmer had. I don't like him at all

@@dellawatson1669 his dad always gave me a weird vibe..I remember this all playing out when it actually happened and something about his dad always bothered me.. like “too calm”

@@buckfuddy5561 the first I heard about the Dahmer story I was about 25. This is the most I've heard about the story and my first time seeing his parents. The moment I saw his dad my insides just sunk. Ant that was before hearing his voice or seeing what he was like as a person

@@dellawatson1669 I was in HIgh School when he was arrested in the 90s and I still remember being in college in 94 and hearing he got his 🍑 banged up by a mop handle and his skull beat in

And the court knew it too. He was somewhat insane to do what Dahmer did so they sent him to prison instead. They knew he would have to be kept apart from other inmates Indefinetly

damn, they talk in a tone as though their son wasn't so guilty afterall !

painkillers!! This happens

Meant to say yes! This happens!

If they did, more power to them.

You are so right. Thats horrible

I think they at the time were numb their son did a horrible thing to people that alone would stun any parent

I think it shows they don't have empathy. No wonder Jeffrey didn't have empathy. Fits with the dissecting his father taught him. You really have to shut off your emotions/empathy to dissect an animal. I watch general hospital to feel close to my mom. She was safe while it was on, but the rest of the day she was raging and destructive. Perhaps Jeffrey dissected people to feel closer to his absentee father (to re-live the "good times").

Could be killers themselves

How closed is your brain? You are watching a 9-minute video of two people who had years to process what Jeffrey did. Years to grieve. Also they were in close contact with one of the victims sister, she even would visit them and she came to Jeffrey's funeral. Please do your research and open your mind a bit. Side note. Jeffrey is the killer. His parents are not responsible. Jeffrey even said this himself more than once.

His soul needed testing not his brain.. he was satanic

I read somewhere his mother wanted to donate his Brain to science so they could study it for reasons as to why he was the way that he was. But his father said NO and had to go to court and won got his Brain cremated.

It was pulverised by a metal pole. No indications could be found if the brain was so damaged.

why are the replies gone on this post? weird

after what that inmate did to him, there probably wasn't much left to study lol

DAMN right mann

Yeah that was ironic. I don’t hate dahmer and wish he be murdered tho. He’s the only serial killer I have genuine empathy for and feel bad for having that feeling and feeling sorry for him. Every cop he met said he was a nice guy and they couldn’t believe he done what he did. Also while his crimes are terrible, he killed 17 people, we must remember that bush Obama and Clinton have a combined victim count of 5 million men women children and babies. So just let that sink in for a moment. Dahmer was an amateur compared with them numbers. They are true psychopaths.

Vengeance is why we will never understand the darkest part of ourselves

Two wrongs don't make a right. Yes Jeff was a murderer so is the dolt that killed Jeff though. Its not justice at all. Dahmer was somewhat insane and should have gone to a psych ward not a prison.

indeed, how fitting !!😑

Jeffrey was 18 years old. His father moved out because of divorce. I was on my own at 15! Didn’t ever murder anyone. Jeffrey didn’t blame anyone else, so you shouldn’t either. He made his choices, and knew they were wrong.

Yes you were probably nurtured and supported These parents thought for themselves.. but their was abandonment as a child too

He always did that to guests. Same with howard stern. Extremely annoying interviewers

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Dear Cathy, Thank you for your response. I agree with you completely. Very sad and very true. They will probably write a book and cash in. Thank you for your wisdom. Please consider moving to Canada.

You do realise this was years and years ago right? The media were probably pestering them so wanted to get their side out 🙄

Oprah does that bullshit too...Smh. Let your guests speak.

Jews sell the creation thing & killed Christ so Larry cuts em off.

I don't get why people think that Larry King's a good interviewer. He really isn't. Like you said he cuts people off, he doesn't even know anything about the subject he doesn't research subject matter at all.

Same dad from step brothers

Maybe. Maybe not, it certainly may have helped.

yes this smells of neglect as almost always is

@LvLeigh11 What if it was your son that was tortured and raped and murdered?

Rip Jeffrey who was the real victim ❤

He was a human. A very evil and morally corrupted one, but human none the less

Fr

You can't humanize that which is unhumanizable.

Damn right, using alcohol to excuse that behavior is the worst copout

It’s not an indication but a warning sign: get them in recovery so they can deal with their internal demons (usually it’s not homicidal of course)

It's a red flag that trouble IS coming in one form or another

i said the same thing

Lol right😂

In Larry Kings day that shit was normal. They used to give out cigarettes and a mini bourbon in kids Happy Meals😆

My parents didn’t notice my alcohol abuse in high school in 2007

@@ClubOreo were they neglectful in other ways? Seems like missing the signs your child is an alcoholic is a choice you make to be in denial - how can a kid even hide it that well?

Children in France drink wine with their meals, and they do just fine. Not all young drinkers are dipsomaniacs or alcoholics.

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Or preserved in bleach or acid 😂

Probably didn't care

A garbage can is just as suitable

@@roddyboethius1722 Don't say that. Jeff was my favorite serial killer. I'm offended.

@@brianlaudrup5271 liturally. So sad rip Jeff baby

He said he wanted to kill people. He wanted to dominate and kill.

He was 18 when they left. Lionel was court ordered to leave the house and the mom asked Jeffrey if he wanted to come but he said no. And Jeffrey said his dad would occasionally stop by to see if he had food but never went in because he wasn't supposed to be there.

No record of it because it was a lie

He was 18 when his parents left him. His dad moved out due to the divorce and his mom moved away with his brother.

@@Foxfire8787 wow...

Ok, cool that’s why his atrocious acts are justified… great!

Yeah she's Super nice and maybe she's Super happy that she's not his mother damn she got relief from that burden

You're kidding, right? She's rigid and uptight. Likes her control. How ironic.

She passed away recently at the age of 81 after a short illness. May she rest in peace.

Women are allowed to speak and express themselves you know! It doesn’t always have to be the men who do all of the talking.

Forgiveness is not EASY - guaranteed !! America is a Christian nation, which could never put this golden principle into practice !! War and Revenge is what they have always adhered to.

Ohhh she wanted to make sure he was dead.

Making sure the sicko was gone!!!!!!

She was probably there laughing and saying burn in 🔥

I seen in a interview that his dad did he said that Jeffrey didn’t want a funnel.

They did. They left.

Good

She was a crazy dumb broad. She tried to commit suicide not long after this interview.

Control freak

They’re at a TV studio being filmed. Lionel stated in his book that like Jeff, he experienced shyness and social awkwardness etc. Being asked to talk on TV about yourself can be nerve racking, even more so when you’re more socially awkward. His wife seems much less socially awkward than Lionel and found it easier to speak in the interviews. Regarding gender, women are just as equal as men.

Oh shut up. They had nothing to do with it. Wokester.

@@bifftannen2062 You shut up, they're making money off it. Wokester yourself!

His parents were hell.

Not many. Given the advancements in surveillance and forensic technology it is very difficult to get away with one murder let alone multiple in this day and age.

@@alterbridgegod bullcrap I am live in Australia, our country is so vast a body could easily be hidden and serial killers like anything else adapts and evolves with technology

Serial killers are studied,if you mean studied more ok,but that in and of it self won’t prevent this from happening again people have been and will keep doing hideous,unimaginable brutal things,the first documented serial killer was Herman Mudgett born 1861,probably was more before him,my point Dahmer could have been stopped if parents,then police and probably more people would have paid attention to several things that seemed so apparent now.

@@rw8990 I totally agree 👍

LOL factssss

its larry kings interview show.

The one thing his father never did before it was too late was make him see a psychiatrist. His father encouraged his interest in dissecting dead animals which was the last thing he needed as a kid. Perhaps his father didn't want him discussing family matters with a doctor?

When his mother was pregnant with him, doctors gave her a lot of drugs including morphine and phenobarbitol for her medical issues. Definitely wasn't great for the brain of a developing fetus.

They seem to only care about him and not the victims he brutally killed

What do you expect them to do? Cry and moan on live tv? When this was recorded it had been well over 10 years since he had been convicted. In that amount of time most people are past grieving over a loved ones passing, let alone some strangers that they never even knew.

@@siansutherland22 You must be one of his family members 🤣🤣🤣

I DEFINITELY would have changed my last name, even if I WASN’T related to them. That name is ruined forever.

I'm in Brazil, it's been a week since I watched the series and I also can't stop researching him and his family and the song please don't go doesn't get out of my head

There are so many interesting opinions on his case, so many differing views... even by psychologists. It's interesting for sure!

Me too

Hope you are not getting ideas

@@mrkurdi22 I find the case interesting too, doesn’t mean to say I’m getting ideas. What, people can’t research and study without getting ideas? Give me a break 🖕🙄

Hmmm Yes many of us in the 50's and 60's did not have the luxury of allowing parents to stay with us in the hospital. Still not a reason to be a killer.

@@ritasnow8319 he absolutely is responsible for his actions and what he did was wrong and I believe Dahmer himself knew it was wrong. But the frontal love brain damage thing is very real the frontal lobe of your brain controls impulse so if you have a thought good bad or in between and don’t have a part of your brain that deciphers the consequences of acting on your thought then you can be very dangerous. Brain damage fucks people up. Especially people who are already not well.

Exactly shows how much shit he truly gave about his son

Many people are damaged but don’t do what he did .. feel for the victims that’s what I say!

@@gbuck4276 what would you know about a human's psyche!? if we do not feel for the sick minded and just dump them as "monsters" we will never get sufficiently close to the related causes of their deads. we would eventually create more of them because what was lacking in Dahmer's case and others was necessary compassion and care.

Fucccck off! I was lonely as a child , killed animals and all. Never killed a human! Jeff is a damn devil and sick bastard.

Respectfully, I disagree. He wouldn’t have stopped and definitely no one could have stopped him. Think about how hard it is to change yourself and most of us don’t have the non stop sadistic, obsessive, perverted thoughts he had

Fuck that he was a devil

Podcasts

I tried to watch that series & it freaked me out after the first 2 episodes. Too dark. I too, found myself reading all these stories. It is sad for all those families & his parents. Seems to me what no one is talking about is that his mom was given morphine & serious drugs while pregnant with him due to development of seizures. How can they not think that affected his brain chemistry? So bizarre...

@@carlam7897 she was on like 20 different types of medication. That poor kid came out completely fried.

Exactly. Think of how many others are probably walking among us.

His father and biological mother aided in his behaviours due to their neglect.

if its anyones fault he turned out the way he did its 100% theirs

@@violetdarling1008 isn't it amazing how we can magically know everything by reading some stuff online.

@@eyesontheinside5776 um he made his choices. He chose to do the shit he did. Not everyone who is abused growing up turns out this way. Stop making excuses for someone who sickenly destroyed the lives of others. You could also by your logic blame the foster care system and people who are supposed to protect children for failing to do their job. At the end of the day people died because HE chose to kill them. His parents did not murder anyone.

@@fraufreundt6849 isn't it just.

I lived in the same house as my mom and from 9 years old on she abandoned me. Couldn’t even stand to look at me. So what’s worse? Jeff was 18 when that happened. When I was 18 I would have been happy as fknnhell to have the house to myself for 3 months to do what I wanted. Quit feeling sorry for the wrong people. Imagine how scared his victims were? I couldn’t even imagine

They cut up animals with him as a child he loved bones left for months alone mother on over 160 pills a day while she was carrying him he grew up messed up and all those pills messed his brain up ....

You do realize that the guy who killed Dahmer, was also serving a life sentence for murder too. By your logic, the family of those he killed should have him killed also, so they can have justice too..

i wouldn’t turn a blind eye. i’d set it up an watch it happen. just like the legendary guard did.

It's hardly portrayed that way, they are only getting the opportunity to speak their feelings about the whole situation, it seems they also wanted answer as to why their son was 1 of a kind.

“I don’t advocate violence”…(but sometimes i do if i get offended enough) LOL🤣 Imagine if Martin Luther King had said that in his speech. Take a fucking stance buddy.

I don't advocate violence, the same as those who serve death penalties in the upper echelon of government don't advocate violence. They serve justice. Anyway, what the fuck has Martin Luther king got to do with it, have you just read a book and want to try and impress somebody because nobody else will listen? I'm impressed! I'm impressed you can spell Martin Luther King because you sound like a right fucking fool!

@@myleague90 lmfao 👍

I mean it’s not really their fault

Why?

Perversions she should have said.

No TV for a week, fuck no its shark week dad 🤣🤣love that movie

@@kathleenbyrne4108 🤣 it's a modern day classic

He was. Seems like the racist commenters are sympathizing him.

The Inmate who killed Dahmer was just another murdering thug.

The man who killed him was serving a life sentence for murder too. You are calling one murderer a hero for killing another murderer, because you like him less. 🤣

@@myleague90 who better to kill a killer than another killer? He's a hero

@@myleague90 yeah but Jeffrey was white! And he killed black people. He deserves violence. 🙄 black people who commit violence don’t deserve any punishment though… because they’re oppressed. Seriously… haven’t you got the new eduction yet? Get with the times man. Everything is racist. The answer is always racism. No matter the discussion. It comes back to racism. Never mind Jeff killed white people too and was clearly sexually attracted to black men (he must’ve been racist for wanting to have sex with them.. obviously)

ye but he said he wasn’t abused in a interview. so who you gonna believe. his neighbours or actually him ?

@@headshotdead6462 a serial killer And liar? Lol

What about the mother ? The mother was horrific, she didn't care about her child at all. At least the father tried.

Evan Peters. Very good actor. He is in most of the American Horror Story series.

@@pommiebears Yes, I know. I've been following him since 2011. A great actor. And in this role he did not disappoint. 👏

Why?

I agree with you about his parents, I never really understood why they both decided to be interviewed, and this is the second time Jeff's dad is being interviewed. He claims in this interview that he is doing this so other parents can try to look for signs that their kids are troubled, but a lot of ways that Jeff was when he was younger apply to a lot of kids, like being shy and quiet, I was and still am shy and quiet and never killed anyone, and I agree with you that just because Jeff didn't believe in God when he committed the murders, this is not the reason he did what he did. I did see an interview with Jeff where he claimed he didn't feel accountable when he murdered people b/c of his non belief of God, but like you said this is no excuse, he was very sick and he was messing around with the occult, which I firmly believe if you go deep enough into that stuff evil will attach itself to you, so I think the combination of him being mentally ill and whatever evil presented itself when he was messing with occult activities played a huge part in why he did what he did. The only thing I disagree with you on is his father teaching him remourse, this is something you either have or you don't have, I don't believe it can be taught. You can try to teach a child that they should feel bad for what they have done, but that doesn't mean that they are truly going to feel bad, they may pretend to appease their parents or other people to get themselves out of trouble, but people who are psychopaths are not going to feel bad for what they have done, regardless of whether or not someone tries to teach them.

I agree with you Rob, remorse is something that either a person possesses or he doesn't. But I also know that children learn from watching us, the parents. If a child is raised in an environment where their parents always make excuses for the things they do that are wrong, they're not teaching their children accountability or to own up and say "yes, this was my doing, this was my fault." We have to teach our children that it's not okay to hurt someone's feelings or call people names or steal the little neighbor boy's bicycle and we teach our children these very valualble lessons not only in word but also in deed. The only reason I implied that perhaps his dad didn't set the best example in this area is simply due to the fact that the gentleman sat on the Larry King show and made nothing but excuses for his son. Never once did he look at the camera and say to the victim's families "I am very sorry for the pain my son caused your families and for your loss." Yes Rob, you're right about psycopaths and sociopaths and all the other paths out there that simply lack remorse but I think early on, parents can contribute to that as well either in a positive way or a negative way. Here's a case in point and then I'm going to put this subject to rest. I don't care if he finds out I wrote this because I'm not saying anything about him that isn't true. My son's father is one of those "it's everybody else's fault but mine" kind of people. The only times last year that my son was late for school was when his dad took him (which is rare because I take him most everyday). I asked my son one day why he was late getting to school the day before and he said "It's because of the idiots on the road. They kept doing stupid stuff to hold up traffic and slowed my dad down." I chuckled to myself because it is so classic for his dad to lay blame. He would never admit "you know what son, maybe we should have left the house a few minutes earlier" or "maybe I should have gotten gas the night before so that we wouldn't have had to stop this morning which took time out of our travel". Am I saying that my son is going to turn into a serial killer because of this sort of thing? Of course not. But this kind of thing could easily start the cycle of laying blame and not accepting accountability.

Millicent Jones You are right about teaching your children accountability, yes, parents need to teach their children that when they screw up they need to accept responsibility and try to do better in the future. As far as Jeff's dad goes, I didn't really think about it until I read your comments, I'm on the fence now on whether I feel he's trying to "excuse away" Jeff's behavior, but if you listen to him here and in other interviews, he seems to be remembering Jeff when he was a child, and not really looking at his son as a grown adult who turned into a monster, and I don't have kids, but I can understand him not wanting to look at his child as a monster though, and just remember him as an innocent child. I mean every video you see of Jeffrey they're talking about what a monster his son is, I don't know, I'm just not sure if he's trying to convince other people or trying to convince himself maybe that his son wasn't all that bad.

+Millicent Jones - The only point I would have to counter, in your post above, is that I believe HE WAS extremely mentally ill! We're just 50 years ahead of what we used to do to mentally ill patients - by performing frontal lobotomies and electrocution. We don't even understand was about 80+% of the brain does - we're not even close to being able to understand what was wrong with this man... But, I can tell you this: Kidney failure is real, heart attacks are real, thyroid issues are real, appendicitis is real... ALL of these are organs, which - when they happen to fail, have a huge impact on how a person (or their bodies) behave. *THE BRAIN IS ALSO AN ORGAN!* We know that all other organs in our body have the potential to fail or behave abnormally - why not the brain? Would you ever look at someone who has to inject insulin because their pancreas is not working, and say to them, "Oh, you horrible jerk! You're just 'evil', we should kill you!" - Of course you wouldn't!! Therefore, the next time you come across a person whose brain is malfunctioning - try to remember - they are no worse than a person who has lost their sight, due to some organ within their optical system not working correctly. It's only when the BRAIN ORGAN malfunctions, that we start thinking people are 'evil' - but, they're not! THEY'RE SICK! Just like your neighbor with IBS. Only difference is the ACTIONS are more heinous when the organ impacted is the brain. One day, I hope soon, we will find the issue(s) behind this and maybe even a way to correct it! He's just as much a victim as women who can't have babies due to a dysfunctional uterus.... same thing, just different organ!!

A legend for murdering somebody’s child? Nope. Doesn’t make anything better. He was a thug who was just as brutal as any other low life tbh

Unfortunately for your theory and wishes, murder is punishable by death Revelations 21:8. Dahmer was a born again Christian when he died and Paul says "So were some of you" in 1 Corinthians 6 9-11. Dahmer is the so were some of you. However Carver killed two people that day and he said God told him to do it. If he was told by God to kill Dahmer, why did he also tell him to kill someone else at the same time? Carver was supposed to be a Christian. If he was he lost his salvation at that point unless he repented. The scripture doesn't say you can be a Christian and a adulterer. A Christian and a murderer. And for the victims...Again in 1 Corinthians 6 9-10 it says no homosexual goes to heaven. It doesn't say the way that you die has any matter of fact. Actually in the Bible it tells us today is the day of salvation. Today because you are going to die. Will it be tomorrow? The homosexuals that he killed are in hell while I type this. If Jesus can't save Dahmer, then there's no hope for any of us. Because all of us have sinned we are all going to hell. Unless you have Jesus. He is the way the only way.

@@Halcyon1861 so, are you saying , you can do all sorts of evil, become a new born christian and all is forgotten about. I don't think it works that way. But, thanks for your opinion.

@@Halcyon1861 yawn 🥱

@@Halcyon1861 there is no such thing as god, when we die there is nothing for all eternity. Grow up and accept it.

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I don't think he even goes as far as reading off Wikipedia. I don't think he read anything