Dr. Phil Interviews Jeffrey Dahmer’s Father

Dr. Phil Interviews Jeffrey Dahmer’s Father - Part 1

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Victims and survivors of Jeffrey Dahmer say they want people to see him for who he really was -- not the glamorized TV version. See a never-before-aired interview with Dahmer’s father and stepmother that sheds light on the monster behind the man. They provide chilling details about his bizarre childhood behaviors. Plus, the Netflix series Dahmer - Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story pushed a decades-old story into today’s spotlight, some say giving it a 2022 “pop culture moment.” After the series debuted, Dahmer’s infamous glasses went up for sale for $150,000, and people dressed up as the notorious serial killer for Halloween. Has our culture’s obsession with true crime desensitized us?
Check out Part 2 of Dr. Phil's Interview with Jeffrey Dahmer's Father here:
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@pipandkip Жыл бұрын

His mother leaving him did NOT turn him into a serial killer, no more than Hitler's rejection from art school turned him into a genocidal maniac. It's terrifying to accept, but there's no reliable root for psychopathy.

@lisaparsons9253 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. However his mothers mental illness and overly prescribed diet of medications while pregnant im sure DID contribute to his major chemical imbalance in his brain. And her total abandonment and lack of motherly anything im didnt help him. Just a thought

@brendaedgehill7761 Жыл бұрын

Exactly I concur

@MelodyLovesGod Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@alannahwilloughby6885 Жыл бұрын

psychopathy results from a complex combination of genetic and environmental factors.

@createart8032 Жыл бұрын

Didn't they say his mother left and took his brother but not him... She probably left with his brother because they knew that Jeffrey was messed up. And I think Jeffrey's father has everything to do with this, I think Jeffrey witnessed some things done by his father.. And that's all I'm going to say.

@panduh5480 Жыл бұрын

I couldn't even imagine how I would react finding out my child did what he did. That would mentally destroy me.

@garethmurray5901 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but Michael Gove is really h0t.

@leeleethelibra981 Жыл бұрын

No for real… I couldn’t imagine that

@rhondashepherd1709 Жыл бұрын

@kariann3198 Жыл бұрын

His father created him, abused neglected corrupted Dahmer they killed animals together his father is a sociopath himself ASPD+NPD factor 2

@mrautismo420 Жыл бұрын

Top 10 Bruh moments

@embrace_masculinity333 Жыл бұрын

Its actually crazy how his father has the same voice with the actor that plays him

@YoungCorleone Жыл бұрын

ON GOD BRO sounds exactly alike

@t.jboykin6735 Жыл бұрын

All he needs is the glasses

@acceptable1609 Жыл бұрын

He also sounds like the real Jeffrey Dahmer.

@nadinetoussaint239 Жыл бұрын

The actor played him ; his really an actor.

@JesusandGod270 Жыл бұрын

He sounds like Jeffrey dahmer

@MacBobby1408 Жыл бұрын

Damn the Netflix series definitely had the perfect actor to play Jeffery’s father.

@kathleenmacdonald3878 Жыл бұрын

Even the voice is the same

@aprilrodriguez5874 Жыл бұрын

Yes right !!! I said the same thing.. 😮

@soroushkeshavarz4999 Жыл бұрын

The voice is identical I mean evan peters voice is close to jeff but I can't tell the difference between Jeff's real father voice and the actor at all

@Jeppe07 Жыл бұрын

Yes!

@CeeCee355 Жыл бұрын

Yeeesssss I was thinking the same thing

@DarthDaddy-ib2jx Жыл бұрын

I feel bad for Lionel it’s been 30 years and he is still being haunted by his sons actions and the media will never stop pushing these serial killers

@GENERALWACKASS Жыл бұрын

I would be too

@caterinascarcella Жыл бұрын

The story that won’t go away

@blloge Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately there is a huge demand for learning about these sick f:/~Ks!

@Matt_Wilson01 Жыл бұрын

Media won’t stop pushing them because of OUR morbid curiosity, you clicked on this video didn’t you, you’re part of the problem kid

@jacquelinegodin3549 Жыл бұрын

He has always welcomed media interviews

@tai.6794 Жыл бұрын

rip to those 17 men who lost their lives. my heart goes out to their families.

@almdraco762 Жыл бұрын

Men and boys

@tai.6794 Жыл бұрын

@@almdraco762 yep

@drlight-hy9vn Жыл бұрын

The youngest was 14

@obiwan9662 Жыл бұрын

I heard there could be more unidentified bodies

@shazhamilton5160 Жыл бұрын

@@obiwan9662 there's talk that he was responsible for a lot of disappearances when he was in the army but no concrete proof

@LadyVader33 Жыл бұрын

Animal cruelty from a young age is a tell-tale warning of pending psychopathy

@skeetyeet3928 3 ай бұрын

i was looking for a comment to reply this to, every child has certain ways they learn to comfort themselves with the uncomfortable so when you let your child collect animal viscera, his psychology is subject to trauma a child can’t simply comprehend, and for him to develop sexual attraction for organs and mutilation, his mother leaving was simply a catalyst to all of this, with no motherly connection freud would have had a field day with the reason this man chose to commit such vile atrocities.

@heatherunicorn-sparkles1724 3 ай бұрын

I dont think I follow. @@skeetyeet3928

@oppothumbs1 3 ай бұрын

@@skeetyeet3928 His mother leaving had little to do with Jeff's brutality. She was not a good mother all along. Freud has some nice theories, most of which don't hold water. Perhaps his Interpretation of Dreams holds the most water. I think ID Twin Studies separated at birth show the greater importance of biology over environment, not that environment is not very imporant.

@SaraMKay 2 ай бұрын

We know that now, because psychiatrists had the opportunity to study “psychopaths “ before they got executed and took their stories to their graves

@oppothumbs1 2 ай бұрын

@@SaraMKay Research has revealed that 25 percent of aggressive inmates had committed multiple acts of animal abuse as children. Forty-five percent of school shooters had histories of alleged animal cruelty, and 21 percent of serial murderers admitted to childhood animal abuse. I made a point earlier that Biology Rules and this is probably more true with serial killers. And maybe head trauma too plays a role. "British child psychiatrist Stephen Scott, an expert in childhood and adolescent antisocial behavior, explains that “unlike regular antisocial behavior, serial killers seem to be born rather than made, with a Heritability of 80 percent of the characteristics being due to genes, whereas with ordinary antisocial and later criminal behavior, it is only 30 percent.”

@bobbyp7403 Жыл бұрын

Watching Jeff's parents trying to defend and understand the actions of their son is heartbreaking I can't imagine the nightmares they have

@LexiMcHenry Жыл бұрын

Even though Jeffrey was wicked wrong. Now this is just my opinion. The parents feel probably some sort of guilt. And usually a parents love is undeniable so I think that’s why. I think they love him a lot any parent unless they are dead beats will do anything for their child. It’s sad but it is what it is

@thesmartoneification 11 ай бұрын

@@LexiMcHenry no dip Lexi

@heidib9981 11 ай бұрын

@@thesmartoneificationthat was rude

@josephineananda 10 ай бұрын

@@LexiMcHenry Apparently both parents have character disorders.

@alb3405 10 ай бұрын

I mean the father did have the same type of issues but he just never acted on it like his son did. So it’s like he could relate.

@shaneevans5723 Жыл бұрын

I think the meds his mom was on while she was pregnant should not be dismissed. Those drugs, if given to the wrong person, can change an adults brain for the worse. Now imagine a developing fetus being exposed to all that. Not saying it explains everything, but it could have been a necessary part of all this.

@mayurakutappa1626 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree

@bernadettewhite3033 Жыл бұрын

I’ve said this so many time totally agree !!

@lourdezramirez3127 Жыл бұрын

I agree! i was prescribed antidepressants and my baby stopped moving for days! Decided to stop taking them after a few weeks and she was back to normal and active. Medicine definitely affects fetuses even when they claim it doesn't

@lovelyrich54 Жыл бұрын

True!

@iroksdub8713 Жыл бұрын

Gtfoh

@tonyabarrett3008 Жыл бұрын

It's sad seeing him as a baby, and then looking at what he became

@berrybliss8184 Жыл бұрын

It’s very sad. That’s something ive had to try to get my head round while studying this case which I’m weirdly obsessed with. I don’t usually jump onto Netflix trends but this really gave me a new perspective on life, and career path. Very upsetting to see how an innocent boy can have sinister things developing in his brain while looking so.. innocent. Very sad the monster he became.

@europeanguy8773 11 ай бұрын

He had it in him since he was born, it just hadn't yet developed into the complex psychological trait he was going to exhibit later on. Psychopaths are natural born. There are kids that have had a much rougher childhood and never hurt others let alone take someone's life.

@pbufh 11 ай бұрын

What do u mean? He didn't even look evil when he committed / got charged.

@tonyabarrett3008 11 ай бұрын

@@pbufh you clearly didnt understand what i was addressing.

@Faget888 9 ай бұрын

@@tonyabarrett3008dum

@Jay-yw3kk 4 ай бұрын

Now that he’s passed away I feel a bit of relief for him that he no longer has to constantly have the thoughts of what his son had done, that must have been imaginable of what he has mentally went through

@mariadonkova2759 4 ай бұрын

I can’t believe he’s dead 😞

@borkboxtv8167 4 ай бұрын

Wait when did he pass??

@ZaZy4MIL 4 ай бұрын

@@borkboxtv8167dec 5

@user-kx9jl5sg1r 4 ай бұрын

@@borkboxtv81675 December 2023

@user-zu5pg1ek1x 4 ай бұрын

@@borkboxtv8167december 5

@jtr82369 Жыл бұрын

The guy who played the father in the series was the perfect fit.

@berrybliss8184 Жыл бұрын

IKR

@shellos8 Жыл бұрын

It wasn't just 1 thing that turned Jeffrey into who he was. It was a perfect storm of many things, including his own DNA.

@doeeyes2 Жыл бұрын

Head injuries can also have a major impact on psychopathy. I heard he had one, not sure if its true tho. I cant bring myself to watch the show... mostly because I love the actor and dont want to ruin it 😅

@nevermore99x30 Жыл бұрын

@@doeeyes2 the show is awesome ! They chose the PERFECT actor to play Jeff...it just gives you all the more reason to love the actor, he's brilliant

@litty4553 Жыл бұрын

Mother figure in psychopathy is often distant but dominant, emotionally neglectful and a father figure passive or missing

@8luvbug Жыл бұрын

@@doeeyes2 he didn't have a head injury

@Bradley94belletire Жыл бұрын

Bullying does it too.

@floresnashvilledrummer 11 ай бұрын

Damn. The way the step mom jumped in and immediately correct Dr. Phil at the beginning was... interesting.

@ADORABEL25 2 ай бұрын

Thisb

@S4n4389 10 ай бұрын

This man looks completely broken , I can’t feel anything but empathy and admiration for him

@user-ih9dg3uz5y 10 ай бұрын

Well he would hardly be happy and talking with Pride about his Sons achievements like what most parents from the Planet f......king Earth do.

@derkilleravalo8260 9 ай бұрын

Shame on u

@user-ih9dg3uz5y 9 ай бұрын

@@derkilleravalo8260 you love the b......ard killer Dahmer? Shame on you. Tell that to the families this losers son killed.

@0neWayUp 8 ай бұрын

@@derkilleravalo8260what's to be ashamed?

@derkilleravalo8260 8 ай бұрын

@@0neWayUp Lionel dhamer Is a fuckn psycho....

@spike16965 9 ай бұрын

I can’t imagine what family members of serial killers think and feel knowing their own loved ones did such evil things

@olivia_574 3 ай бұрын

jeff’s niece said she’s very disturbed and is afraid she’s gonna turn out like him 😭

@AMPYMCSTAMPY 3 ай бұрын

@olivia-ci7tq hey, I was treat pretty crappily as a kid. I always say to my mum how terrified I am of ending up like the men she dated, and eventually I realised something. If you have the ability to fear becoming like these people, it is because you are a good person that would never be like that.

@davidlea5155 2 ай бұрын

They are victims too.

@olivia_574 2 ай бұрын

@@davidlea5155 yeah fr

@guitarshaq 15 күн бұрын

Even worse when the family lives every day ,like that person done nothing

@lalice663 Жыл бұрын

his father is very well spoken, I don’t know how I would’ve coped knowing this became a worldwide story and how to even begin processing it all. big respect, my thoughts are with the victims 🤍

@manarmarzouk8595 Жыл бұрын

It’s fishy. He is fishy.

@jim4250 Жыл бұрын

By pain suffering and stress. Deep pain.

@jeffo83 Жыл бұрын

what kind though, cod,haddock, cobbler, or carp?

@beezlebub9 Жыл бұрын

Because he was a very intelligent man who wrote a book about it; that probably helped him process and heal.

@marley1995 Жыл бұрын

@@beezlebub9he groomed his child to do these things

@troubleinthevalley5884 Жыл бұрын

Wow, the dad's voice sounds surprisingly similar to Evan Peters' voice in his portrayal of Jeffrey Dahmer. They did pick a really good actor to play him in that Netflix show. Both of them, actually.

@s4mcote Жыл бұрын

Richard Jenkins is amazing.

@keijokaljo7622 Жыл бұрын

Evan Peter's didn't portray the father though...

@ilikehands Жыл бұрын

@@keijokaljo7622 no that's not what she meant

@geminienergy Жыл бұрын

When he said jeffrey said he couldnt have one foot square of his own property i instantly thought of evan peters portray of jeffreys whinning 🤣

@troubleinthevalley5884 Жыл бұрын

@@keijokaljo7622 ummmm yeah I know. Which is why I said Evan Peters portrayal of Jeffrey.....? I was just pointing out that the dad's voice sounds similar to Evans portrayal of Jeffrey. Maybe I didn't make that clear?

@samip3124 Жыл бұрын

The actor who played his father has best performance in whole series

@TG-fq6vy Жыл бұрын

We get it. About 1000 people on here have already said it🤦‍♀️

@HydeOffical Жыл бұрын

No lol even had the best

@Yehoshua66 11 ай бұрын

@@HydeOffical not even. the woman who played his neighbor was so compelling.

@HydeOffical 11 ай бұрын

@@Yehoshua66 I think even was the best but I agree I can’t think of many bad performances in the show

@Yehoshua66 11 ай бұрын

@@HydeOffical very true. the whole cast was stellar.

@softsapphic1976 Жыл бұрын

Stephen Hicks, Steven Tuomi, Jamie Doxtator, Richard Guerrero, Anthony Sears, Eddie Smith, Ricky Beeks, Ernest Miller, David Thomas, Curtis Straughter, Errol Lindsey, Tony Hughes, Konerak Sinthasomphone, Matt Turner, Jeremiah Weinberger, Oliver Lacy and Joseph Bradeholt. May they and their families find peace

@Jactional Жыл бұрын

The fact the father and Evan Peter's played the roles so well in Dahmer on Netflix is insane... they even sound alike.

@supernothing77 Жыл бұрын

He was in stepbrothers too

@roycepavich2441 Жыл бұрын

Richard Jenkins is his name, brilliant actor.

@toddsmith1969 Жыл бұрын

@@supernothing77 that's mainly what I know him from haha

@wellinever1558 7 күн бұрын

maybe they used his voice

@chadiyoob155 Жыл бұрын

I always thought the heavy drug use his mother was involved in during her pregnancy with Jeff played a part

@juliehernandez80 Жыл бұрын

That’s true. Like the Parkland Shooter - his mom was using drugs while pregnant with him.

@1rage17 Жыл бұрын

Yeah there’s so much mixed up stuff said about his life, I thought she was abusing her prescriptions too

@aneriafreelove3431 Жыл бұрын

@@1rage17it messed up is mitochondria solace

@8luvbug Жыл бұрын

Well it probably didn't. There was a cat scan done on Jeffrey's brain before the trial and no brain abnormalities were found. She was also on medication with David and he turned out fine

@oceanfive8201 Жыл бұрын

She wasn’t on drugs, she was on medication from the doctors

@jjnouse8812 Жыл бұрын

The audacity that the stepmother showed by scolding Dr Phil for referring to him as "Jeffrey." Total Karen Move.

@shemarthefreshest Жыл бұрын

Chill.

@K-a-n-d-i-s Жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought the same. Karen for sure !

@gevongrant6950 Жыл бұрын

I was like it doesn't matter if Dr.Phil called him Jeffrey or Jeff. We can him a monster.

@Visiblenightj 10 ай бұрын

How she acted was totally unnecesarry and ignorant. Like what's the issue? His name is Jeffrey. Why expect random people to call a monster or anyone by their nickname lol. Although in the show, the step mother is really pleasant but in this video😵

@AlainBruno 4 ай бұрын

I can’t imagine being the parent of a serial killer. The pain and shame they have to live with..

@ryandcranchdel7046 4 ай бұрын

It’s a nightmare for a parent

@ilham5146 4 ай бұрын

Well, they contributed on his behavior, he was not born serial killer, they made him so ...

@spicyhoneymoon32 3 ай бұрын

@@ilham5146 are you sure???

@Fat12219 2 ай бұрын

Dam 😮

@spicyhoneymoon32 2 ай бұрын

@@ilham5146 psychopaths are born like that.

@KatieBellino Жыл бұрын

"We don't relate to Jeffrey. He's Jeff." Fakest smile ever. Yeah, mom's a piece of work and I've only gotten into the interview 15 seconds.

@almasakic1148 Жыл бұрын

that's the stepmom not the mom.

@manarmarzouk8595 Жыл бұрын

That’s the girlfriend not the mom

@tinanichols893 2 ай бұрын

Lots of stepmothers are snarky like this. Deep, down inside, they don’t want to be bothered with the problem kids of a former marriage. They’re just kicking themselves for falling in love with a man who has so much baggage. It’s too bothersome for them to deal with. Well, it’s their fault. They knew what they were getting into.

@Heeter_23 2 ай бұрын

She's creepy too...

@linnetmbotto7212 2 ай бұрын

Just a way to intimidate so as not to be asked a lot of questions

@cjbrew34 Жыл бұрын

Whoever played his father did a good job at him.

@blloge Жыл бұрын

Yes he is a good actor been in many other good movies

@patrickc3419 Жыл бұрын

Richard Jenkins. Very talented character actor

@andrewhazenberg3398 11 ай бұрын

His father and stepmother seem like very nice caring people. I really hope they are doing ok and they are not being harassed by idiots .

@nicolemonrue 11 ай бұрын

They get death threats constantly

@andrewhazenberg3398 11 ай бұрын

@@nicolemonrue There are so many ignorant idiots out there . The parents had nothing to do with what Jeff Dahmer did .😞

@sahratank7504 10 ай бұрын

They seem ,,,doesnt mean they are caring people!

@Faget888 9 ай бұрын

@@andrewhazenberg3398😂

@Glitch_sa_Mhaitris 8 ай бұрын

They give off a bad vibe

@stancexpunks Жыл бұрын

Imagine opening a locked box belonging to your son and finding a human head.

@iluvsubliminals Жыл бұрын

😰🤢🤮🤮🤮

@M101533 2 ай бұрын

You'd be like...."This is unacceptable, you're grounded for a whole month."

@ddog4204 Жыл бұрын

Being interested in oddities and liking bones does not mean that your going to be a killer

@old7677 Жыл бұрын

Just have situational-awareness at all time, you never know

@julieantony5821 Жыл бұрын

agree

@user-xm5ny2ju9m Жыл бұрын

Um it kinda does. White ppl are weird

@mattjcrane Жыл бұрын

It did for Jeffery though

@elliot4302 Жыл бұрын

Its one thing to collect and another to have an obsession and killing for your bones

@Lientjes Жыл бұрын

Jeffrey has the voice of his father

@kariann3198 Жыл бұрын

There both sociopaths except the father has ASPD+NPD not ASPD+BPD+SPD like dahmer

@K0r1ISH3R3 Жыл бұрын

Yes, it's almost like... He's his father.

@ambermcdonald1302 Жыл бұрын

We don't know, we don't relate to Jeffrey 🤣🤣🤣

@bloodmoonvampire6632 Жыл бұрын

Omg he does 😱 never even noticed till I saw your comment.

@tristanz.u Жыл бұрын

Yea😍

@shairanarido3444 Жыл бұрын

Lionel Dahmer's actor sounds exactly like the real guy.

@jazzybattles6547 Жыл бұрын

Yea he does

@seanodonnell486 9 ай бұрын

Jeff's younger brother David changed is last name when all of this went down. He did not go to his brother's trial or visit him in prison. He did not engage with the news media at all, and has continued to live in anonymity ever since.

@sandragonzales5494 Жыл бұрын

Love how cold step mom is still turning Jeff's problems on his mother. They seem like a living embodiment of "distant, unloving parents" in medical literature.

@sandragonzales5494 Жыл бұрын

@AntiFEMINISTandPROUD I can tell this is just a sad posting from some incel wanting attention. There...go hug yourself.

@erikanorman928 Жыл бұрын

I think his father loved him, just was also a product of his own environment

@EdinburghMayhem Жыл бұрын

I think she's just really, really defensive. Heaven knows she'll have had enough practise.

@1rage17 Жыл бұрын

Hard not to blame her for at least having part of it, but he as well should realize he was being neglectful, he was trying just not enough

@sin3701 Жыл бұрын

@@1rage17 idk but in my point of view, there is big chance that the father must work more excesively than the mother to pay child support for jeff brother, pay the mortgage, jeff needs, and maybe his new gf/wife.. it is not that the father neglected it but the father need to work overtime.. I think the most main driving factor is what the father said that jeff relating his sexual desires with death of animal in his early teens..

@science2857 Жыл бұрын

I’m a counselor at a clinic, and we have these discussions amongst peers, it’s hard for me to blame a parent for such an extremely distorted person, unless there were “direct” grooming or involvement activities at play

@hekate1971 Жыл бұрын

Its not about blame. Its about learning about this kind of behaviour so we know how to deal with it. We have a lot of sick/ill people and we need to deal with that fact. Putting them away is not the (only) answer. And besides that: you cant deny yhe external factors that trigger this behaviour. Its always a combination..nature and nurture.

@josephineananda Жыл бұрын

The parents ignored and missed many opportunities to raise this boy differently. They bear some responsibility, even if they don't see it.

@science2857 Жыл бұрын

@@hekate1971 is there a real answer, I mean we’re talking about cannibalism, which is very extreme, and what traits would serve as an indicator, how many parents raise “people eaters”?????

@mainecoon6514 Жыл бұрын

@@josephineananda I don't know of any parent who hasn't made mistakes in raising their children. Mr. Dahmer obviously loved Jeff very much and never gave up on him, especially when his gruesome crimes dominated the news. The Dahmer's younger son didn't turn out like this. In fact, he changed his name so that he's not associated with Jeff and his atrocious crimes.

@josephineananda Жыл бұрын

@@mainecoon6514 Their parenting mistakes are unforgivable.

@celestebenamara6606 11 ай бұрын

The pain they must feel I can't even imagine. Even if he was born that way ,the feeling of guilt is inevitable.

@anemone9081 6 ай бұрын

I am really grateful to the parents that they made the effort to shed so much more light on this case. It is always better to know more than having to deal with this unclarity of why things happened.

@Shannon-vv6rr 3 ай бұрын

They refused to give the victims families the money from Jeff's trial and wanted to keep it 👍

@bkohler89 Жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie, I had no idea his parents where still alive

@cammalone4457 Жыл бұрын

Well his mom is dead but that’s him father and stepmother

@bkohler89 Жыл бұрын

@@cammalone4457 o ok I didnt know that

@Laura-fh3sc Жыл бұрын

It wasn't all that long ago

@badgurl5758 Жыл бұрын

Only his father is alive.. he’s 86yr

@Salemaa Жыл бұрын

@@badgurl5758 what about his step mom??

@sheilawebb9746 Жыл бұрын

These days, if a parent insisted on seeing what was in the box, the child's therapist would tell us we need to give our kid more privacy & have enough trust in them to give them that space.

@canadasweetie Жыл бұрын

There’s a time to give them privacy and then there’s a time to follow your instincts when something feels wrong

@sheilawebb9746 Жыл бұрын

@TomTheDog i know that i can be trusted. I'm more concerned about whether it's safe for me to trust them, not the other way around.

@sheilawebb9746 Жыл бұрын

@TomTheDogwhy are you defending a serial killer? (I'm not referring to my kid, I'm referring to Jeffrey Dhamer.)

@sheilawebb9746 Жыл бұрын

@TomTheDog but too much privacy enables more criminal behavior. Like there was the time he didn't kill someone he had intended to because of his grandma showing up. If he had more privacy on that one occasion, then that would have been one more murder victim who didn't escape him.

@stealthcat100 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@Pinkranger87 4 ай бұрын

The father just recently passed away

@AmberLizzieBow444 2 ай бұрын

Rip ❤

@andrewsimpson2808 Жыл бұрын

It’s crazy how well they cast him for the series

@supposeyounever675 Жыл бұрын

Wow no one asked the lady he hadn’t even talked yet

@SalehQattan Жыл бұрын

She's not his real mom, she didn't raise him

@juddy1414 Жыл бұрын

She can be Shari? His second wife?

@sandragonzales5494 Жыл бұрын

"Call the manager. His name is Jeff."

@jayxfrost8987 Жыл бұрын

@@SalehQattan she's his stepmom who unlike his biological mother was very fond of him.

@8luvbug Жыл бұрын

@@jayxfrost8987 That's not what Shari's friend said.. She said shari hated Jeffrey and David and was mad that Lionel had to play child support. Shari said in another interview that she wished Jeffrey was put down like a dog. Doesn't sound like a step mother who's loving. Jeffrey said his mom was a very comforting person when she could be.

@parisinthe30sx Жыл бұрын

My husbands grandma taught him and his wife tennis. Had no idea who they were until later on, said they were really nice people

@dayasankar2777 Жыл бұрын

@@jcldctt his parents are nice. He is the serial killer after all

@GunnersMom97 Жыл бұрын

@@jcldctt what makes you think they aren't nice people?!

@parisinthe30sx Жыл бұрын

@@GunnersMom97 did I say I didn't think they were? No.

@whyieyesyadonpiano Жыл бұрын

@@GunnersMom97 oh idk, one family member is a psychopathic rapist & cannibal & the others raised him? Wtf kind of question is that?

@kathleendobens6648 Жыл бұрын

Don't listen to the trolls. It's ridiculous you can't say anything.

@DMG118 Жыл бұрын

Lionel's wife is NOT Jeffrey's mother. Why was she even there?

@jcorley45 11 ай бұрын

Because they were together while this was all happening

@addicttt Жыл бұрын

I feel so sorry and bad for Lionel..he doesn't deserve to go through this horrible experience and pain from all of this..how can he take this?

@faith123 Жыл бұрын

i feel worse for the victims families!!

@addicttt Жыл бұрын

@@faith123 I do as well. Its extremely upsetting to hear that your own child would do these horrible things to others. may the victims families heal🙏.

@emilsimonsen8256 Жыл бұрын

To be fair his parents "gave" him bpd (borderline personality disorder) witch is probably part of the reason he became a serial killer

@thenorseprodigy7466 Жыл бұрын

Nah, he deserves this pain for making and monster of a man.

@pearljamin Жыл бұрын

Probably in a money transfer but cash would be cool

@lucidlabyrinth Жыл бұрын

Of course Dr Phil has to capitalize off it now that it's trending lol

@DaFridaification Жыл бұрын

😂 exactly

@bodhiswayze1892 Жыл бұрын

What is the point of this? There are NEVER gonna be any proper answers to this horrific situation. It's just disrespectful to the victims and their families....🤬

@SalehQattan Жыл бұрын

It's Dr Phil, they don't really care about ur pain , they just looking for views , cuz the serie was successful, everyone talking about it

@bodhiswayze1892 Жыл бұрын

@@SalehQattan Yeah, true. I forgot how gross he is...

@rdgloveshouse Жыл бұрын

Lmfao how is it disrespectful? They are literally raising awareness

@mrsbaker2354 Жыл бұрын

Its about the parents making more money.

@Matt_Wilson01 Жыл бұрын

Oh stfu with that tired argument

@bethanyriley5068 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Phil never ages

@abbz21 10 ай бұрын

Lol so true

@klown839 Жыл бұрын

After what he did, she has the nerve to demand he refer to him as “Jeff”? LMAO that woman has some balls!

@TG-fq6vy Жыл бұрын

She comes across as incredibly cold and dangerous

@Rriellesmommy Жыл бұрын

i was looking to see if someone would mention that 😂

@dirtisbetterthandiamonds Жыл бұрын

Honestly they both creep me out

@Ettibridget Жыл бұрын

In his family he was always Jeff. The media did lot like the nickname so they went with Jeffrey.

@carriebrooks4174 11 ай бұрын

Y is she even there?

@chloefox8471 Жыл бұрын

That was rich of the step-mom to say.

@fluffytail6355 Жыл бұрын

She’s as much of a weirdo as her husband

@forrestemberscar6003 Жыл бұрын

Shes seems like a bit of a karen tbh

@veepersart9625 Жыл бұрын

Literally

@robynboone8256 Жыл бұрын

So judgemental.

@chloefox8471 Жыл бұрын

@@robynboone8256 how?

@distinctlydri2831 Жыл бұрын

At the end of the day, Jeff was allowed to run free and that how he was able to get away with a lot. Living near a wooded area wasn’t the problem. He was a legal adult when his mom left. Abandonment issues are the root of a lot of this.

@llnnie Жыл бұрын

People have worse abandonment issues and are still functioning members of society. The root of the problem was his demented perceptions of fulfilling an inhuman lust that is most likely a genetic problem with his brain. Although, the abandonment issues definitely did make this worse.

@8luvbug Жыл бұрын

His mom leaving him for a few weeks at 18 hardly qualifies as abandonedment. He did not even want to go with her even though she asked him to 🙄

@llnnie Жыл бұрын

@TomTheDog Okay? 😂 everyone already knows that. (i hope at least)

@llnnie Жыл бұрын

@TomTheDog That's not quite what I meant. If everybody handled these experiences the same as Dahmer, it would be genocidal. I'm making it 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳, in my original comment that everyone handles things differently. Dahmer handled things differently because of his inhuman lust to kill and cannibalize humans.

@lolasparks.4539 Жыл бұрын

@@8luvbug He was 17 and she took his brother left him for good she never came back his Father was living with his stepmom somewhere else his whole family was gone. She didn't want him it's in the report of his Doctor .

@ryancostello5288 Жыл бұрын

that hair dye job would make me a serial killer too

@anthonymarks8684 Жыл бұрын

I’d rather be dead than red on the head 😂

@2004cyrus Күн бұрын

Oh that is just color in a can

@TheDarkDutchman 3 ай бұрын

That father doesn't really look friendly. He must know much more.... Based on his eyes.

@loriawinfree478 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your shows and vidoes i always enjoy because tell the truth

@alanamacneill88 Жыл бұрын

Why would it matter if hes calling him Jeffrey, thats his damn name

@neighborbruce Жыл бұрын

Just stupid people trying to take control of a conversation, nothing more.

@MySweetAriane Жыл бұрын

That's their son. They called him Jeff. Maybe hearing Jeffrey makes them think of the evil person he really is. He is known as Jeffrey Dahmer to the world and maybe that's a way for them not to think of him as a monster. Jeffrey is the monster. Jeff is their son.

@mimi-my5bl Жыл бұрын

Both are monsters tbh, son or not

@ammt1ru807 11 ай бұрын

They're making an attempt to dissociate the psychopath, Jeffrey, from the person they believe they knew. As she said, "we know him as Jeff." Years ago, the original interviews were played quite often. I remember thinking that correcting his name was odd. Especially during the timing of questions on certain interviews. It seemed it was their way of suggesting they only know him as Jeff, the sweet boy we raised and loved as opposed to Jeffrey this horrific psychopath. Maybe the dissociation in their minds aleiveate accepting some level of responsibility that they missed the development of a serial killer.

@KimberlyBishh Жыл бұрын

This is important even though Jeff's parents were not the best parents I don't think they would ever envision they would raise the most infamous serial killer on earth. Parents need to care about this they need to care about these things if they see any kind of behavior like this it needs to be corrected and in the right way. You're never too young for therapy

@KatsuHoku4 Жыл бұрын

THIS

@2004cyrus Күн бұрын

Therapy? Uh no. The child would need to learn about Jesus and learn about Gods love.

@JayJay-sf2wn 7 ай бұрын

My brother is evil. When my parents found out how evil he was they tried to hide it. I really struggled with them hiding his behaviors. Forty years later, I get it. Everyone assumes that it’s the parents fault. They would have been crucified. I’m not saying I agree with what they did, I just get it. I wouldn’t want to be them.

@elliehancock657 Жыл бұрын

This is SO interesting!

@FirstNameLastName-js2ul Жыл бұрын

The parents didn’t cause it, but the certainly didn’t prevent it

@giannimolluso5846 Жыл бұрын

Good Comment

@8luvbug Жыл бұрын

How do you prevent someone from becoming a cannibal and necrophiliac?

@giannimolluso5846 Жыл бұрын

@@8luvbug His Parents didn't pay any attention to him. Maybe professional help at an early age might have helped

@8luvbug Жыл бұрын

@@giannimolluso5846 Hindsight. No one thinks their child will become that way. His upbringing wasn't even all that bad. I don't think there's help for people like him other than being permanently institutionalized.

@giannimolluso5846 Жыл бұрын

@@8luvbug You could be right. Some People are born psychotic they say

@timjenkins7019 9 ай бұрын

This really peels back a layer most never think about. Lionel truly loved his son and was so devastated by his actions and death.

@The315fan 7 ай бұрын

I come across so so many people who accuse Lionel of molesting and all sorts of horrible stuff.

@qwertyouriop2 Жыл бұрын

The Netflix shows casting was 10/10

@ParisfromTexas Жыл бұрын

He seems to still be in denial

@tristanz.u Жыл бұрын

Isnt it old?

@tristanz.u Жыл бұрын

The interew

@Patrickbateman____ Жыл бұрын

@@tristanz.u nah it was recorded this year

@Cpdm26 Жыл бұрын

@@Patrickbateman____ it’s a old interview. Look up a interview of him in 2020, he looks much older there. He is already 86

@jacquelinellamas3197 Жыл бұрын

@@Cpdm26 do u have the link to the full interview?

@adlihcrosby1389 Жыл бұрын

Just because someone is a sociopath or psychopath. Doesn’t mean they are all murders. There is sick minded people you walk past through stores, mall, ect . The importance of understanding that people need to have good understanding of empathy, and good role models , good parenting comes a long way. It won’t always avoid coming across people like this but watching porn non stop, or having sites with gore on it . Has played with alot of these peoples minds now

@pennywisethedancingclown4024 Жыл бұрын

This poor guy has been doing interviews about his son for years. Wonder if he ever gets tired of talking about it, it’s gotta be emotional for him every time. He still looks great, though.

@kerrymartin7557 11 ай бұрын

It's his choice. And I'm sure he gets paid for some of them.

@pennywisethedancingclown4024 11 ай бұрын

@@kerrymartin7557 true, I just think it would get tedious after so long

@triggabun 5 ай бұрын

@@kerrymartin7557I think he does it to try and give people answers as much as he can. Some of these things cant be explained. He can't tell you why but he is trying to humanize the whole thing and how things got missed. Nobody can ever imagine their child to be Dahmer let alone a neighbor etc. It's frightening. Darkness can take many forms.

@jakedaviscomedy 8 ай бұрын

After hearing this I'm blown away how the actors in the show got the voices & mannerisms so dead on.

@coredadventure1 Жыл бұрын

I remember an interview with him where it came out of his own mouth that he had no idea why he was this way and that he had a good childhood is the way he put it he said his childhood wasn't perfect but he said in no way it led him to do this he didn't think he said he didn't have any idea why he was this way

@coredadventure1 Жыл бұрын

@Sunny Lynn yeah perhaps did he say that I've never heard him say that but with what I heard that came out of his mouth he said it wasn't perfect but it wasn't horrible and didn't cause him to be this way which seems pretty damn accurate to me.... but I know that parents can really cause some damage I know mine did

@Indecisivetacos Жыл бұрын

Please use punctuation I had to read ur comment 3 times lmao

@hueyfreeman6262 11 ай бұрын

@@Indecisivetacos if you can't read without punctuation then I don't know what to tell you

@ronancoffey6729 8 ай бұрын

Did u interview him lol

@ciaradiam0nd 9 ай бұрын

I love how in the very beginning the step mom seems to get almost defensive and correct Dr.Phil on calling him Jeff rather than Jeffrey? Seriously lady? That’s what’s important here?

@MrLetmein2011 Жыл бұрын

I have so much respect for this man , he's always behaved with the utmost dignity .

@magaly8773 Жыл бұрын

🤣

@nypinstripes2388 Жыл бұрын

You’re kidding right?

@KatsuHoku4 Жыл бұрын

Get off your phone

@Faget888 9 ай бұрын

@@nypinstripes2388no Jeffrey is cool chill mwn

@KvltKommando 9 ай бұрын

he worked on military human experiments ala mkultra program, hes not innocent, he made dahmer exactly what he became

@nintomdo9977 Жыл бұрын

Some people believe he started to make his thoughts real after surgery he had when he was little

@Internetlo Жыл бұрын

I feel horrible for his parents

@Nothingwasfixedatall10 Жыл бұрын

Yeah they probably blame themselves even though it wasn't their fault

@CARL_T013 Жыл бұрын

@@Nothingwasfixedatall10 really they do

@gregdetwiler9220 Жыл бұрын

I feel horrible for his brother. He changed his last name.

@Fat12219 2 ай бұрын

Proud 👏

@NiceButBites Жыл бұрын

I don't feel bad for Lionel. He loves to place all the blame of Jeffery being messed up on his ex-wife Joyce, he wrote a whole Book about it, but in Reality, he completely added to the mix too. He was neglectful, an unemotional robot, and was too busy being off with his New girlfriend who then became his wife (the lady next to him here), to Notice how messed up Jeffrey was. The warning signs were there ALL ALONG. His weird behaviour... drinking before school... coming home from school drunk... yelling and hitting trees in the garden... The public nudity... Molesting a child... A prison sentence... Being discharged from the military... Stealing a mannequin and sleeping with it... The locked box of the head which Jeffrey refused to open... Lionel making him move out from the grandmother's house... The signs were there. Fact. Lionel just wasn't emotionally EQUIPPED to be able to Deal with them. And because of that, he brushed everything under the carpet. Which had Devastating consequences for many people. But in hindsight, it's very easy to play the "Oh my ex-wife was sooo messed up" card, write a book on it and do loads of interviews where you look very sad, and try to absolve yourself of all responsibility of it.

@polishpat95 Жыл бұрын

Holy!!!! This guy's voice is IDENTICAL to the voice of the actor on the Netflix series of Dahmer.

@leonheartilly92 4 ай бұрын

I just found out that Jeff’s father has passed away. RIP Lionel Dahmer.

@BeccaRaptor94 Жыл бұрын

it's weird how she got offended by his full name...

@julieantony5821 Жыл бұрын

Its a code maybe..

@manarmarzouk8595 Жыл бұрын

She is as sick as Lionel and as Jeffry!

@BeccaRaptor94 Жыл бұрын

@@julieantony5821 I’m interested! What do you mean?

@julieantony5821 Жыл бұрын

@@BeccaRaptor94 I mean, is that possible that he's still alive and live with another name like his brother, David? Because like you said, why she get annoyed with her stepson full name?

@claudettewright365 Жыл бұрын

@@julieantony5821That’s the silliest, most conspiratorial, and just flat out wrong explanation I’ve ever seen. It’s obvious why she told Dr. Phil to only refer to him as Jeff: that was their son. That was who they knew him as and what they called him. It’s a coping mechanism to make a distinction between what they knew him as “Jeff” (their son) and what the world knew him as “Jeffrey” (the killer). It’s not rocket science.

@MoldRoss Жыл бұрын

I love the amount of armchair psychologists in this comment section😂

@K-a-n-d-i-s Жыл бұрын

It's the fun of KZfaq though lol

@FurbyGender Жыл бұрын

The first few seconds I rolled my eyes. Lady who TH cares if it’s Jeff or Jeffrey?

@virg0doll811 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, she wants us to respect his NAME, f*** him!

@hogmjr Жыл бұрын

They do

@jayb9113 Жыл бұрын

No hate, but to you Jeffrey is exactly what he is, and a stranger. To them, he is a son and someone they know all their lives. So that's why they care about the use of his name. To them Jeffrey is the serial killer and Jeff is the beloved son from the past. Simple.

@kelseybuccholz3738 Жыл бұрын

Lol dr Phil was respectful about it. I wouldn’t have been.

@ceciliadundee9122 Жыл бұрын

Says a lot about her…

@KaitlinMillerOct2nd22 Жыл бұрын

I don't believe his parents were loving and were there for him. I believe this could have been stopped or prevented. Extreme loneliness and neglect.. this is what happens or what could happen. Parents love your children, listen to them, and be there for them

@K0r1ISH3R3 Жыл бұрын

Apparently when he was a baby, nobody held him unless it was for pictures or to change diapers

@MsCodered1 Жыл бұрын

Listening/hearing his father peacefully discussing his son's actions as a kid was like he shrugged it off like 'boys enjoy gross stuff'. By not forcing his son into therapy, he was only encouraging things to get worse. His father actually played a large part in Jeffrey s future psychopathic actions!

@ShyerLady Жыл бұрын

Dont blame it on his parents. His parents were loving of their kids they just had marital issues and struggled to give the attention the kids needed, they didnt purposefuly leave him lonley. This happens to half the kids on the planet, they dont turn into psycho cannibals.

@slimshead8100 Жыл бұрын

It’s horrible when any parent isn’t loving and is neglectful. However, there’s plenty of parents who are like that yet their child doesn’t turn out a perverted serial killer. It produces a screwed up individual, but it certainly doesn’t make them a serial killer.

@StrawberryJam806 Жыл бұрын

His father did his best. He’s not to blame for Jeffrey’s crimes.

@susanwright4414 22 күн бұрын

His mom creeped me out, the way she looked when she said "He's jeff to us." 😢

@helenhighwater5313 Ай бұрын

I seem to remember from back when all this horror story went down that JD's father said there was "total" neglect of him when the parents split. He lived on his own unsupervised with no input of love or parenting during his adolescent years. Reminds me of the old saying, "an idle mind is the devil's workshop".

@candlelitpeppermintcarniva8509 8 ай бұрын

His son was a villain; but his father has walked in good intention. This father is a hero.

@ZaharaV999-tl1er 8 ай бұрын

I understand wanting to speak kindly of this gentleman, but a hero? Come on. You know who actually was a hero? Tracy Edwards and the other survivors, Glenda Cleveland, the jurors, the prosecutor who helped put Dahmer away. Lionel Dahmer, unlike Jeff Dahmer's mother, wanted his son's brain cremated instead of letting scientists study it. That research could have helped prevent people like him from ever doing what he did. Scientists may have been able to find a biological factor (or rule it out) and, who knows, maybe even figure out some kind of treatment. He and his ex-wife made excuse after excuse for their son and it wasn't until it was too late that it finally clicked. Lionel Dahmer is just a grieving father here, not at fault for his son's actions. But a hero? Sorry bud.

@lighthouse1136 7 ай бұрын

A hero? Oh ffs

@josephineananda Жыл бұрын

Parents in serious denial.

@josephineananda Жыл бұрын

@neekoxbaby They were in denial long before they found out.

@createart8032 Жыл бұрын

There's something off about his father...

@annitabiondi6417 Жыл бұрын

💯💯

@clarewalsh7247 Жыл бұрын

Yep

@jacquelinellamas3197 Жыл бұрын

In the document he admitted to being like Jeff but never told anyone

@manarmarzouk8595 Жыл бұрын

That’s why he refused to examine Jeffry’s brain!

@janejames5862 Жыл бұрын

I believe when we stop trying to find reasons why people do wrong we will stop giving them reasons to do wrong Everyone should be accountable for their actions without playing victim of something or someone And finding a reason for a serial killer has yet to be found and I don't think it's going to be found

@fatmaezzahraabderrazak1452 9 ай бұрын

Still there's excuses for what happens, but doesn't mean u kill people

@pandawandas 8 ай бұрын

so you think things just happen for no reason and we shouldn’t look into why things happen?

@ashleywalden3692 11 ай бұрын

My heart breaks for him

@kelco64 7 ай бұрын

I feel for this family. Can not imagine what they’ve been through. I read a military criminal interrogator’s take on a serial killer. Nature vs. nurture? He said a person is born with it. I’m sure some experiences in life can alter a personality. But a serial killer of this magnitude is a born killer.

@2004cyrus Күн бұрын

It’s the spirit of Satan. Only God can deliver a man of his sinful compulsions.

@BigDaddyBeefPatty Жыл бұрын

I feel terrible for these people. They can never get away from the story of their son. You know even after they found out a piece of them had to still love him. Or at least what he once was. Most of us are guilty of having a fascination with the macabre. But the price of that fascination is that these innocent people have their lives tainted with blood and evil forever.

@Menmystringss 8 ай бұрын

I didn’t realize how well they did with the casting

@frankcarlo7 Жыл бұрын

Your born this way. The brain develops different for everyone. I know people who had a terrible upbringing and they became great people

@awolf97 Жыл бұрын

I think situations like this are nature and nurture issues.. people generally try to use one versus the other but for Jeff I think both failed him.

@natashasays Жыл бұрын

You may be born with proclivities to certain urges, like sadism, but it is your choice what you do with them. If you cannot control yourself by sheer force of will, it is your onus to find someone or something that will stop you. For example, people with strong sexual cravings towards children (pedophiles) will sometimes get prescribed libido diminishing drugs, such as anti-androgens, to diminish their urges.

@nathr7375 Жыл бұрын

@@awolf97 boom someone who actually gets it.

@nathr7375 Жыл бұрын

@@natashasays key word being sometimes.

@natashasays Жыл бұрын

@@nathr7375 The key word pertaining to what? Many people with pedophilia or other paraphilias like Dahmer had are able to avoid offending without hormone blocking medication. Some use SSRIs. Others access support networks, use therapy, or have other outlets. The important distinction is between an urge that is difficult to resist versus an uncontrollable urge. Dahmer is evil because he is fully accountable for the series of choices to give in to his predatory urges.

@sirsmokeefortwence25 Жыл бұрын

The spooky music is a little unnecessary lol

@daleandrews3552 Ай бұрын

One of the thoughts I had throughout this interview was how hard it must have been for his parents. It's almost like the polar opposite of being able to brag about your son being an esteemed poet laureate or author, a heart surgeon of the highest order (like being on Dr. DeBakey's surgical team), or an astronaut. You know it had to be hard for them, having to relive it on national television.

@jordanalbert6601 8 ай бұрын

OMG. The actor of Lionel in Dahmer sounds exactly the same.

@melaniem4798 Жыл бұрын

This is so sad. You know there are so many killers parents who wonder why their kids turned out the way they did or if their parenting had something to do with it or them wondering where they went wrong to end up having a killer child and honestly, in most cases it was to no fault of the parents at all. But now that the killer is well known the family also becomes demonized by association, being related to the killer and that's just wrong as well. They are not their children. Their siblings are not them. The families shouldn't be looked down upon for something that they were not involved in and many times had no clue about.

@danniella1518 Жыл бұрын

Has anyone got the link to the whole interview please 🙏

@danielebrparish4271 13 күн бұрын

Read the biography of Jeffrey then Lionel's memoir. It is much more interesting than any of the tv shows or interviews that are out there.

@s-e-z-o 5 ай бұрын

0:06 she needs to watch her tone.

@jaysoostacks2866 Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@bursegsardaukar 9 ай бұрын

"We don't know, we don't relate to Jeffrey. He's Jeff." Is that a form of disassociation?

@vjlh9 7 ай бұрын

Absolutely

@Grizzly84306 7 ай бұрын

She probably wants to think of him as her son Jeff and not “Jeffrey Dahmer”

@ainemurray8250 Жыл бұрын

Its a bad sign when a person attacks an animal.that was a warning sign

@lolasparks.4539 Жыл бұрын

He said he never killed any animals just road kill.

@firefighter343 Ай бұрын

I've always felt most badly for Jeffrey Dahmer's parents to be honest. They didn't choose for their son to grow up and become a serial killer with cannibalistic tendencies. I've never met them personally but I imagine that it has to be a real burden just to wake up each morning knowing that your son was The guy who had dismembered body parts all over his apartment, and severed heads in the freezer next to the popsicles. I can't even begin to imagine how it must feel day in and day out, just knowing that your child was Jeffrey Dahmer, and what it must feel like going to your local grocery store and just hoping to God that no one recognizes you and starts throwing rocks in your direction. Seriously. That's no way to live.

@GalaxySwitch Жыл бұрын

Pooburty 😂

@sgirl1234 Жыл бұрын

The father is still in so much denial. He doesn't think Jeffrey killed the first victim on purpose by hitting him over the head with a barbell. What?

@lolasparks.4539 Жыл бұрын

He thinks he dropped it on him when they were doing weights spotting each other which is a possibility accidents happen right .THEN HE PANICKED . If he wasn't abandoned and morbidly lonely this never would of taken place.

@8luvbug Жыл бұрын

@@lolasparks.4539 Jeffrey still would've killed, Only Steven Hicks wouldn't have been killed