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Virtua Racing The Definitive Analysis | 32X Genesis Arcade Saturn PSX Nintendo Switch Comparison

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@captainnintendo
@captainnintendo 5 жыл бұрын
I sincerely hope that there will at some point be a physical Sega Classic collection with all of M2's great ports so they won't be lost to time some day
@sdmayday
@sdmayday 5 жыл бұрын
I finally got my copy of VR Deluxe. The game is definately a lot of fun to play and a must have for the 32X.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
It's held up amazingly well.
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi its 30fps like all 32x games right
@Gorilla_Jones
@Gorilla_Jones 5 жыл бұрын
As an original Arcade Virtua Racing veteran pumping hundreds of dollars into the 4 player sit down with my buddies every Saturday for two years I love what M2 has done. 😁 Your hat game is strong in this one master Jenovi. Oh yeah Switch version >>> 32X version.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt when comparing only the arcade mode, the Switch it the best. I'm still playing it. However, as a package it's a mess and M2 shouldn't be praised for selling something that contains content that's broken.
@Gorilla_Jones
@Gorilla_Jones 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi Yeah package wise it's a little light. But it's 8 bucks and 32X was $50. That's what I'm thinking. Keep up the great work, and hat game.
@4504595
@4504595 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gorilla_Jones 100% agree with Gorilla Jones. Also, how can you put the 32x game above the Switch version when it also doesn't contain the feature you claim is broken in the Switch version. Doesn't make much sense.
@Sinn0100
@Sinn0100 4 жыл бұрын
How dare you! The 32X is the best thing since sliced bread. I'm hoping since Microsoft and Sega have joined efforts for the Series X we will see another 32X add-on. The Microsoft Series X Sega Super 32X Xtreme! It just rolls off your tongue so easily. ;) In all seriousnes I loved the 32X version of Virtua Racing. I remember when the Genesis version hit as it blew my mind (Star Fox did as well). When I saw the 32X running Virtua Racing in my local Micro Play (remember those?), I basically did a Fry- "Shut up and take my money!" I also picked up Doom and Star Wars Arcade that day (great but very stupid of me). I was working a PC help desk job (family business) and I was saving up to buy both the Playstation and Saturn when they dropped. Had I just held on I could have had a Saturn early. I remember stupidly convincing myself that the Saturn would match the arcade version of Virtua Racing....I mean, 8 freaking processors how could it not? I was wrong and the arcade version stood as the best version of Virtua Racing for a very long time. The Switch rendition looks better to me and I guess it was time but why did it have to be on a Nintendo console....:( Addendum- I'm joking of course as we play everything at our house (fiancee and I). We love all gaming from its humble beginnings on 2K ROM carts to the most cutting edge 4K games being played on the Xbox One X, PSPRO, and PC. Yes, we love our Nintendo Switches as well!
@eriksojka9209
@eriksojka9209 5 жыл бұрын
I do think they did a good job on the Genesis , for the limitations
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 2 жыл бұрын
I love it, then I play 32x version...once you master genesis draw distance and hit detection system the better 32x becomes a breeze
@NASIRUB1
@NASIRUB1 5 жыл бұрын
I can't wait until they port over the Daytona USA series to the Switch.
@RewindMike
@RewindMike 5 жыл бұрын
Now it's time for you to cover Hard Drivin'!!!
@diegoldsnake
@diegoldsnake 5 жыл бұрын
Or stunts for pc! Awesome game!
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Oh shoot..... I was up visiting Historic Nerd in Idaho and the arcade by his home has 1 and 2. Classic games.
@MarquisDeSang
@MarquisDeSang 5 жыл бұрын
I had the Race Drivin full arcade cabinet at home for a couple of years.
@ActuallySanFrancisco
@ActuallySanFrancisco 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi apparently hard driving and race drivin were both the basis of what would eventually become the engine powering the san francisco rush series as well - i wish both of those series would get more youtube love.
@Mike-nf6nf
@Mike-nf6nf 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarquisDeSang dat loop de loop tho
@bpcgos
@bpcgos 5 жыл бұрын
Always love your content about obscure topics not many youtubers talk about, dudes. Keep it up...
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks amigo. Appreciate it.
@oscarzxn4067
@oscarzxn4067 5 жыл бұрын
Play both the Switch version for the best arcade experience enhanced and 32X version for the extra content.
@Larry
@Larry 5 жыл бұрын
I believe the extra tracks on the PS2 version come from Virtua Racing's arcade sequel, Virtua Formula. But I may be wrong there. But there was a Gameboy Advance port in development, but it was cancelled. There's footage of it on KZfaq.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Virtua Formula is essentially the 8 play co-op deluxe machine experience which is also included with the Switch release. I missed the news about the GBA port. Was that recently found? I bet the audio is trash.
@Larry
@Larry 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi It was uploaded in 2012, but no sites really picked up on it for years. Nintendo Life only did when I mentioned it to them on twitter.
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay 5 жыл бұрын
I think you're blind or something. 🤔 The Switch version is the arcade version. They used the original source code and enhanced it.
@afistfulofpimples1745
@afistfulofpimples1745 5 жыл бұрын
No. They messed up the color. And they cut a lot of corners including wrong frame rate and stretched widescreen. So you're wrong turkey brain.
@johnpoling2484
@johnpoling2484 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Switch IS the arcade version.
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay 5 жыл бұрын
Stephen Brook Dude the original supported widescreen. It's not stretched. Also 60fps is better and the draw distance is perfect. The color is off though.
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay 5 жыл бұрын
Chrystal Poling Exactly. It's the arcade anywhere you want.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Blind on what?
@buckroger6456
@buckroger6456 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I also got the 32x version when it first came out and played the heck out of the game to the point of having it mastered. The 32x version was pretty mind blowing for its time and really helped to show what the 32x could bring us but sadly Sega quickly pulled the plug on the 32x. Also loved the part where your playing the switch on the riding lawnmower lol so great.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed this one.
@AverageDrafter
@AverageDrafter 3 жыл бұрын
The Mega Drive version of this game was such a minor miracle that it was used for the basis of a port to PICO-8. The PICO-8 version of Virtual Racing is a miracle on top of a miracle.
@KNGINetwork
@KNGINetwork 5 жыл бұрын
I really hoped that the Switch version would be a "Definitive Edition" or sorts, bringing together the extra cars and tracks from the 32X, Saturn, and PS2 versions into one package. Sadly it's more of an enhanced arcade port, which is great, but it really shows how thin some of these classic arcade racers were on content.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
I think that's a fair statement.
@NeoGeoNinja81
@NeoGeoNinja81 4 жыл бұрын
Always liked the PS2 version best, personally. Controls totally different to the original (drifty!) but always liked the visual upgrades, blistering framerate, more neutral pallet choices, gameplay etc. I remember being taken aback by how much I enjoyed it when I first got a hold of it. That tyre squeal though! I'll agree on that!! I think VR is similar to Daytona is so much that there isn't a definitive, per se, and the top choice will always be subjected to preference. Unless you own the Arcade Machine I guess 😋
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 4 жыл бұрын
I certainly think you're on point here, especially with V.R., the version you first played most likely will be the one you most prefer.
@JomasterTheSecond
@JomasterTheSecond Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting how none of the American boxes for Virtua Racing have a picture of the actual Virtua race car, but instead have real pictures of real vehicles (or a painting in the case of the MD version). Where I live (Australia, which is a PAL territory), every version has a picture of the polygonal Virtua racecar (in fact, even the Virtua Stock and Virtua Prototype for the Deluxe version on the 32X!), not to mention the addition of the polygon race queens on the boxes of the first two Japanese releases.
@townlinetim876
@townlinetim876 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. You really bring your subject matter to life. I have always loved Virtua Racing. It’s awesome to see that there are so many different versions to experience.
@colins5129
@colins5129 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers, I always loved Virtua Racing on the Saturn!
@socialmedia7812
@socialmedia7812 5 жыл бұрын
JENOVI HAS POTENTIAL TO GET MILLIONS OF SUBSCRIBERS I CAN SEE IT... HIS PRESENTATION IS LEGIT.. VERY WELL STRUCTURED. ITS A MATTER OF PATIENCE.. ROME WASNT BUILT IN ONEDAY.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Awww, Thank you. I really appreciate it.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 5 жыл бұрын
Great rundown, dude!
@AGwolf2097
@AGwolf2097 8 ай бұрын
I still haven't gotten to play the original arcade VR, but I rented the Genesis version from blockbuster a bunch of times back in the day... I even spent a ton of time in the 2-player mode with a friend and we had always had a lot of fun, even with the super jank framerate. I still enjoy it, warts and all. When I finally got my hands on a 32x and VR deluxe, I was blown away; literally everything was better, and I even spent a good amount of time in the 2 player mode with the same friend. We loved it, and I must have traversed every square inch of every track in the game... I remember trying to see where I could get out of bounds, find new paths (my friend and I used to play chicken in the big open concrete area in bay bridge), etc. Deluxe set some high expectations for the Saturn version, and I was admittedly disappointed when I finally got my hands on it years later... I didn't play Time Warner's version until I had already gotten experience with 32bit road rash, wipeout, destruction derby, sega rally, Top Gear Rally, Cruisin USA, Gran TUrismo etc... so I had already been spoiled by bigger racing experiences, but I was hoping for it to at least be as polished at VR Deluxe and Sega Rally. I tried to like it but I was just frustrated by the collision, the handling, the inconsistent framerate all the time, etc. If I can divorce myself from expecting it to feel like Virtua Racing, it's just fine, acceptable. The PS2 release was a big disappointment for all of the thing you listed... controls, soundeffects, graphics... which is a bummer because I kinda liked the new tracks, just like the saturn and 32x versions. I loved the original Virtua Racing format and concept, I just wanted More Stuff. But the PS2 version played so bad... I'm in the US so I got it on the Ages compilation release, so at least we got that absolute fire techno remix of Space Harrier's main theme lol Haven't tried the switch version (refuse to buy another Nintendo console until we get a proper new F-Zero, or until Nintendo gives the IP to Sega), but from all the video I've seen, it just looks weird. The high frame rate combined with the very flat speed aspect ratio (ie, items in the distance move toward the camera at very linear rate instead of the "stretched" distance perspective of the Genesis and 32x versions) makes it just look too slow. It looks like it "feels" sluggish, and it makes the whole game seem less dynamic. There's really something to be said for the sense of speed in racing games, and some titles get it while others just look like a flat boring mess. (It's a hard thing to describe; if you play either Top Gear Rally 2 on N64, or Quantum Redshift on the OG xbox, both games have some cheat codes that let you mess with the depth aspect ratio... it's not specifically a useful option, but it hilights how much of an influence a game's sense of depth changes its sense of speed.) Over the years I think I've decided that the Genesis version "feels" just a little bit better than the fantastic 32x version, at least for the F1 car (LOOOOOVE the stock car in Deluxe). The collision is still unforgiving in the Genesis version, but I think of it as the difference between Daytona USA and CCE on the Saturn... The first game is incredibly rough around the edges but plays really well; CCE feels much different, and is fantastic in its own right once you learn its mechanics, and it has a ton of extra content.
@dezm101
@dezm101 5 жыл бұрын
great video! I am also a huge fan of the series - I own all except the switch version. You are one of the few reviewers to mention the sound issues in the PS2 version, its so bad I have to keep it on mute. 32x version is excellent but damn its hard, sometimes I put the Saturn version in so I can easily get on the podium haha. The added extra tracks on the 32x just dont feel right to me, but I think its definitely the most polished and true to the original.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
At one time, I could get 1st on every track in the 32X release and unlock mirror mode on the first try. Back in the good old days before responsibilities took control of my life.
@Lightblue2222
@Lightblue2222 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's physically impossible to beat the 32x version on hard. But only because the programmers accidentally left out the slipstream mechanic to gain the speed needed to catch up. I can beat it on Normal but no way on Hard. Yet the Genesis version I can beat on hard since I can ride the draft behind the other cars the whole way there. It's not easy, the extra speed is necessary for me. I do however really like the added tracks on the 32x and think they fit well. It was an almost perfect game. Still havent mastered that prototype car either.
@ryzmaker11
@ryzmaker11 5 жыл бұрын
I love the Mega Drive version! Something about porting such an impressive, 1992 arcade game (that ran on the then cutting edge Model 1 arcade board) to a 1988 console, even if the SVP is here to help but still, a beautiful achievement and one of the best 16-bit racing games. Now the 32X version has some expected improvements, it runs in higher resolution, looks smoother and has some nice extra content but it also has some gameplay issues (as @LightBlue2222 explained in another comment) so while it's still enjoyable, it's also a bit of a disappointement. I never played the Saturn version but I often heard bad things about it. And apparently the PS2 and Switch versions look and sound great but still aren't perfect. A phenomenal game for its time and one that has aged gracefully with its timeless flat-shaded look.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Great comment. I think the Saturn version is just misunderstood. It's a find game, just not a fine port of Virtua Racing.
@altrogeruvah
@altrogeruvah 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the high production review and the points / research made for this video! Great stuff man, big fan of the old school Virtua Racing.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@leeboy2k1
@leeboy2k1 5 жыл бұрын
Just a little tip re the Switch versions over-saturated color, make sure to set your Switch to full range RGB in the Switch's settings, this ensures the game is putting out the full 0-255 color values and helps make the game look closer to the arcade original, also, sometimes modern TV's especially LG OLED's have a black level setting that also needs to be toggled on certain content.
@Gr4yF0x
@Gr4yF0x 4 жыл бұрын
You are wrong. It just crushes black and oversaturates colors. For TV users, the correct settings are rgb limited and black level set to low.
@TheGunmanChannel
@TheGunmanChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid as always Jenovi 🤘
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gunman. Always appreciate you stopping by.
@VGHOST008
@VGHOST008 4 жыл бұрын
After so many years, the only version I still constantly come back to is the x32 one. It's just so much fun.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 4 жыл бұрын
It's bar none the best.
@SaadAzim
@SaadAzim 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, dude. It's nice seeing the 32X have it's day in the sun. With the Genesis port, I *think* SEGA was cutting corners. A 24 MEGAPOWER cart would've cost quite a bit more than a 16 meg cart. :D
@lazarushernandez5827
@lazarushernandez5827 5 жыл бұрын
The price on the Genesis version was due to the SVP chip. I imagine that a 24 meg version would have inflated the price close to what you could get a Genesis at the time (the Genesis was $130 in 92, Virtua Racing was released early 94). That price was one of the reasons the 32x itself came to be; pay similar money($160 at launch) for an add on that improved the looks/sound of every game released for it instead of paying $100 for each. This idea came before Sega fully knew the consequences of splitting up your user base; which they had already done with the Sega CD.
@Bojanglez667
@Bojanglez667 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Jenovi, I love the 32x version of virtua racing, and I'm glad to see it remains the best overall.
@Lightblue2222
@Lightblue2222 5 жыл бұрын
Except there's no drafting.. 32x is the only version with this problem.
@johnpoling2484
@johnpoling2484 5 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, I love the side by side comparisons.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@crimsonshadow1140
@crimsonshadow1140 4 жыл бұрын
the engine sound used for the standard F1 car in the saturn port isn’t a bad sound effect, it just doesn’t fit with that type of vehicle, it sounds like it would rather suit a kart instead
@PixelsLtd
@PixelsLtd 5 жыл бұрын
Really great video. I loooooove the 32X version 😍 That said, with a patch, the M2 version has the potential to become the definitive version, even above the arcade. But yeah, that camera jump when pressing accelerate is pretty tough when feathering! 🤬
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
I hope we see a fix, but when everyone who has a loud enough voice to influence change chooses to not speak out about the problems, it's unlikely anything will change.
@geminielectro
@geminielectro 5 жыл бұрын
I love the 32x VR. Also, i like to play the saturn version with the wheel. The "Metropolis" track with the kart is awesome!
@Valdrex
@Valdrex Жыл бұрын
The Switch version of this game is a miracle. I never would have expected such an awesome, modern version of Virtua Racing.
@WrestlingWithGaming
@WrestlingWithGaming 5 жыл бұрын
As a member of the Geo Metro appreciation society, I feel personally attacked! Haha! Otherwise, another great video as usual.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
When you finally move to the Wild West from yuppie land, we need to get you into a "Man's Vehicle". Maybe a John Deer riding lawnmower?
@WrestlingWithGaming
@WrestlingWithGaming 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi sir, I drive a Kia Rio..the pinnacle of automotive engineering and testicular fortitude. 😤
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
😂
@SmashJT
@SmashJT 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always, dude! Congrats on being names the July 2019 SMASHER Of The Month!!! Keep up the incredible work, Jenovi!
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Amigo. Appreciate you showing love and support for what I'm doing.
@ethelchip3620
@ethelchip3620 5 жыл бұрын
Great review!!! Hopefully m2 does an update to address everything, especially to fix the colors. The Saturn version is beautiful. I also
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
I've been following Apex for a while now. I really hope it releases, but haven't seen an update in over 7 months now.
@Hits9Nine
@Hits9Nine 5 жыл бұрын
colour fix is easy, go to options turn car to blue then back to red.
@DaveVoyles
@DaveVoyles 5 жыл бұрын
I love how thorough your reviews are!
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the support Dave. Thank you.
@BorkHammer40k
@BorkHammer40k 5 жыл бұрын
The Switch version of Virtua Racing includes the replay song from the 32X, redone in the style of the original arcade music. My understanding is they essentially recreated the song in such a way that it could have actually been played back on the original arcade hardware.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. DYK Virtua Racing on 32X Japan has an exclusive song?
@Hits9Nine
@Hits9Nine 5 жыл бұрын
I am an owner of the Genesis, 32X, Saturn and PS2 versions - the Switch version is exactly what I saw when I first laid my eyes on the cabinet in the Arcade. The Switch version is by far the best version of all, including Arcade.
@arioca
@arioca 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised Jenovi didn't give the edge to the Switch port.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
For the arcade experience standalone, the Switch is no question the best, but as a package, it shouldn't have been shipped in its current state.
@arioca
@arioca 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi I hope M2 fixes the Switch issues you mentioned and it would be nice if they offered the correct arcade colors as well since it appears a bit washed out on Switch in comparision. According to Digital Foundry, the 32X exclusive soundtrack was recreated on the Switch using the original arcade sound chip in order to match the other tunes.
@MrThunderwing
@MrThunderwing 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! Really enjoyed watching this.
@NintendoComplete
@NintendoComplete 5 жыл бұрын
Iirc, wasn't the SVP not able to address anything larger than 16 megabits? I think the SuperFX had the same limitation.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe. I've read over the SVP tech documents and don't really see a restriction, but it's clear it was done with16mb in mind.
@KGRAMR
@KGRAMR 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video as always! :)
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud. Always happy to see you stop by.
@euronymous_t
@euronymous_t 4 жыл бұрын
Great review/side to side comparations! Loved your voice and script, so now you earned a new sub, hahaha!
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@PixelSlayers
@PixelSlayers 5 жыл бұрын
I gave a very real laugh out loud when you drove by on the mower. 😂
@MightyQDawg
@MightyQDawg 5 жыл бұрын
Love Virtua Racing Deluxe on 32X and am strongly considering getting Switch version. This video helped a lot. Thanks!
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks QDawg. Look forward to running into you at PRGE this year.
@CHMernerner
@CHMernerner Жыл бұрын
"What is definitive edition of Virtua Racing?" is really hard answer for decades
@pigpenpete
@pigpenpete 4 жыл бұрын
The thing that I miss from the arcade? The wonderful harmonious engine note of the player car. And if you play the arcade version on MAME with a gamepad it controls in a very similar way to the PS2 version. At least, thats how it feels, I havent played the PS2 version in a decade...
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 4 жыл бұрын
MAME is a solid way to experience the arcade game.
@urbanmidnight1
@urbanmidnight1 5 жыл бұрын
Good video, but imo the Switch version is by far the best 👍 Online mode is a mess though, I was pretty disappointed too.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
For the base game, there isn't a better version. As a package, it's kind of disappointing.
@urbanmidnight1
@urbanmidnight1 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi Yes, totally agree.
@jonathanlisowski5618
@jonathanlisowski5618 5 жыл бұрын
Very thorough review of all the versions. Thank you!
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for the comment Jonathan.
@Royameadow
@Royameadow Жыл бұрын
A true Definitive Version of Virtua Racing is a product that is still very much overdue from Sega, and considering what we have witnessed from every build of it to see a release up to now, it is clear that we know how much is missing in the era of the Switch port, some of which I will discuss from my longtime views on them below: ~ Mirror Mode: Virtua Racing MD allowed for you to unlock Mirror Mode if you completed every map in Pole Position on Hard; unlike Mario Kart's Mirror Mode and the 2007 ROM hack Sonic: Return to the Origin, Virtua Racing MD's Mirror Mode is a simple flip of the map on the X Axis, you won't be playing the course in reverse from Point B to Point A akin to the previously mentioned but it does deliver a respectable challenge on Muscle Memory for Veteran and Master Players. ~ Extra Cars and Courses: Deluxe, Time Warner, and Flat~Out all benefited from their new additions on this front, with the Stock being the most preferred vehicle among most fans and select Speedrunners due to its better handling and ability to handle sharp turns while the Prototype is one of the best for Speed (despite having trash Handling); I always wondered how all the courses would look under Flat~out's engine, and had the devs for Sega Ages 2500 had more time to work on this remake, it would've been the Definitive Version in many ways but even we know there's only so much you can put on the lower budget Blue Compact Disc that some things had to be axed (though in this entry's case, it was due to Time; Flat~out had north of 0600 Megabytes of space free on the CD to add extra material if D~Three Publisher had more to work with). ~ Eight Player Mode with an Uncapped Framerate: The Switch port is based heavily from Virtua Formula, a I993 update to the original Arcade build that was optimized for Multiplayer and usually would come in sets of Four and Eight Player cabinets that were easier to manufacture, hence why we even have Local Eight Player to begin with; the Switch version runs these matches in 030 FPS (I need confirmation from emulation testers if Yuzu and Ryujinx allow for it to be played uncapped), so it'll be nice to see a lift of that cap and wishfully that'll come in a future port down the road, maybe even with a special Sixteen Player Mode to go with it. ~ Battle Versus: Now, if you were following development of Racing Apex back in 20I5 and 'I6, you would know that this title was literally Virtua Racing with Combat mechanics in a similar vein to Motocross Mania III, given that you could wipe out your opponents; when it was rebranded to Hotshot Racing after the project was picked up by Sumo Digital, this core gameplay mechanic was ultimately removed and it did upset many fans who were expecting it to be in the main game outside of extras; it would be nice for a presently hypothetical Virtua Racing: Definitive Edition to deliver something similar to help distinguish this title from its competition and it would fulfill the original ambition of Lucky Mountain Games to truly evolve what Sega delivered to us Thirty Years ago in the most effective way possible. ~ Surround Sound: For players who want more of an Atmospheric experience, it wouldn't hurt to have Six Channel (05.0I) and Eight Channel (07.0I) Surround Sound be possible from doing upgrades to the audio, especially considering some of the natural sounds of certain parts of each map and also given how the Vocal Tracks are separate from the music (in the Arcade version, they are togglable by simply disabling certain audio channels); being able to get this treatment especially for Deluxe and Time Warner's tracks would be phenomenal, there are some good cues in there and to hear them in an Uncompressed form would make for good Remixing value down the road, given how much is left on the table with their original masters. (:
@sebastiankulche
@sebastiankulche 3 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer the PS2 port, i dont know why but i like the darker look and the controls for me feels much better, is easier to pick up and play. I like your video btw.
@formerlycringe
@formerlycringe 4 жыл бұрын
I wish Virtua Racing on Switch had LAN play alongside that 8 Player Split-screen. That could artificially extend the lifespan, especially since the Online 2P is booty cakes.
@thingsiplay
@thingsiplay 3 жыл бұрын
The 32X version was my first and so far only Virtua Racing game I have played. It is a magnificent game. My only complain about this series is, how the car almost stops when it collides with another and spins on its point.
@Butterworthy
@Butterworthy 5 жыл бұрын
I played 32x Virtua Racing for the first time recently. On my Playstation Classic. It is a damn good version, and I wish Switch had the same amount of content, but I'm really happy with the Switch port.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
The base game in the Switch port is awesome.
@germanm5540
@germanm5540 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video, thanks. I'm still mad at Sega for never releasing a Dreamcast version, and I think the Saturn edition could have been great if it had been produced in-house.
@mtubr
@mtubr 5 жыл бұрын
That Phalanx feeling at the start of the video
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoyed that.
@youdontneedtoseehisidentif4939
@youdontneedtoseehisidentif4939 5 жыл бұрын
A good video, but that hat… where you auditioning for the box art for _Phalanx_ on the SNES..? ;) (Also, I think there's a typo at 8:58 ..? "experiance" should probably be "experience")
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh the dreaded typo. PS. An excellent games deserves a stand out and excellent outfit.
@jmullner76
@jmullner76 Жыл бұрын
Was just playing the 32X version today. Still enjoy it.
@nixneato
@nixneato 3 жыл бұрын
The Switch version is fantastic. And the pallet has been fixed since (google it :). The ONE thing they could have done is offer a mirror version, jumping from 3 to 6 tracks, no effort. I actually contacted M2, but no answer...
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I still have it on the Switch, I'll have to check it out again.
@nixneato
@nixneato 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi If I remember correctly you need to press the left shoulder button at the start up screen (the demo that shows the cars racing) and there appears a gamma gauge. Bring it down to 85% and you're good.
@Monacomaverick
@Monacomaverick Жыл бұрын
You have to play the 32X version on a Hitachi Ultravision projection screen. It is glorious!
@StandingUpForBetter
@StandingUpForBetter 5 жыл бұрын
Another well done and extremely polished episode! I totally agree! Keep up the great work!
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind comment. It makes me happy to hear from people who enjoy my work.
@zukoulou7464
@zukoulou7464 5 жыл бұрын
Great collection of Virtua Racing games !!! There is also Virtua Racing as alone game on japanese PlayStation 2. In the collection "Sega Ages" ! :)
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@SwankeyMonkey
@SwankeyMonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Cool hat. I mean that that woven straw hat keeps your head cool.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Very much so.
@Fattydeposit
@Fattydeposit 5 жыл бұрын
I wondered if you'd make this video. Good job.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't resist. Thanks for watching.
@CyclonesWorld
@CyclonesWorld 5 жыл бұрын
I won't lie, that acceleration pop demo you did from the Switch version almost made me nauseous. I enjoy the video, but that almost needs a warning.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
I was on the fence about putting that in as I feel the same way. I kinda felt the point needed to be made though. Sorry about that Donny.
@CyclonesWorld
@CyclonesWorld 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi Totally fine, I appreciate you showing it off so people know to not do it lol
@MnemonicHeadTrip
@MnemonicHeadTrip 5 жыл бұрын
If only the Switch version had a vaporwave soundtrack like Virta.zip
@bobcharlotte8724
@bobcharlotte8724 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid! You deserve more subs.. but please blink more when reading your scripts :)
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. FYI, I'm not much of a blinker.
@tubebandits4439
@tubebandits4439 5 жыл бұрын
You reminds me of Don Johnson in Django
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
The only appropriate attire when discussing a game of this caliber.
@tubebandits4439
@tubebandits4439 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi thats totally true. But a Ninja Turtles costume would be also dope.
@datavalisofficial8730
@datavalisofficial8730 2 жыл бұрын
When i was gatting into youtube for the first time back in 2007/2008 i was fascinated with researching about consoles and games that i never owned or even seen in my life Before that the only way i could experience a gamecube game was to get an actual gamecube and the actual game and play it Nintendo never picked up in brazil though, i've seen more sega saturns and dreamcasts than wiis in my life, and i never saw a gamecube irl, just to give yall a perspective I was as dumb as a kid gets but i loved the fact that i could now see how consoles looked like and how their games looked and sounded I looked lots of wikipedia, i watched angry video game nerd subbed in portuguese, and i discovered emulation and i'm pretty sure i played at least one emulator for each freaking console i know, including the virtual boy, the fm towns marty, the wonderswan, and im also a huge fan of amiga and pc9801 emulation I first saw virtua racing in lists of games that push the limits of X console And being a sega mega drive owner myself i never saw any 3D game for the mega drive so i was baffled and i remember getting on my dad's nerves for us to look for a copy when we came to the downtown where is easier to find games for older consoles Even though i was already familiar with GTA San Andreas, NFS Most Wanted, Counter Strike 1.6, and other big 2000s games that i played on PC It was still a blast that my freaking 18-year-old(at the time) sega mega drive could run a 3D Racing Game I got addicted. Its... I dont know, NFS felt like something too mature and complicated and VR was colorful and felt more kid friendly to me, i played the saturn version on an emulator called yabause and i think i had the saturn version on every single computer i have ever owned I thank youtube for recommending me this video as this game is huge for me, even though i'm an early gen z specimen
@itsMewJAM
@itsMewJAM Жыл бұрын
it's a shame there's no real, definitive release for virtua racing, it feels like it really shouldn't be hard to do. i've been wanting to get into the game but it would be nice to have all the content and the most polish / accuracy in one place.
@chrismulhern6527
@chrismulhern6527 Жыл бұрын
Owned them all over the years but imho nothing compares to the original arcade cab, the feedback through the steering wheel on the cab is light years away from any port although having said the i do enjoy the 32x and the switch version more than the others but i must say the switch port wins the console war for pure arcade mode, but for now I'm still playing on my upright cab, my pride and joy :).
@Lightblue2222
@Lightblue2222 5 жыл бұрын
32x would be great if it had drafting. That's my major complaint, and the other versions dont have this problem. It means the 32x version is just about impossible to beat on Hard. Drafting to gain speed is a major component of the game. The programmers messed it up. What's suppose to happen is you get behind the opponent and it sucks you foward adding more speed to your car. But what happens in the 32x version is that you have to physically bump the car in front of you to gain speed. The drafting is suppose to help you catch up to the car, but instead you have to catch up to the car without drafting, then clumsily bump into the opponent without crashing to gain the extra speed. Meaning there is no such thing as a clean race on the 32x when you have to play bumper cars just to get ahead. Amazes me how Sega overlooked this. Drafting is what takes this game to the next level of fun, showing just how fast the cars can actually go. and the 32x sadly let us down here. And I have to rank Genesis above 32x for this reason alone.
@ryzmaker11
@ryzmaker11 5 жыл бұрын
*very* interesting point that I remember already reading about @sega-16 (maybe it was a post of yours?). anyway I love the mega drive version, something about pulling off such an impressive game in a 1988 console, even if the SVP is here to help but still, a beautiful achievement and one of the best 16-bit racing games
@Lightblue2222
@Lightblue2222 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryzmaker11 Agree, and no that wasnt me in the forums but I'm glad others notice too. I've mentioned it on other youtube VR comments before because once I realized Genesis had a proper slipstream and 32x didn't it started bugging me everytime I played. Someone told me it was overlooked because it was rushed to meet a deadline. It does at least still have a way to gain the speed, you just have to make physical contact with the cars, if you do it right the cars won't spin out, and it's kinda fun and challenging in its own unique way. Jenovi is otherwise right to rank it as the best because I dont see anything else wrong with the game, but it is an issue. I still love it, and it's still better than VR Saturn in terms of how it feels. Personal ranking has to go to Genesis though ;)
@ryzmaker11
@ryzmaker11 5 жыл бұрын
@@Lightblue2222 it's crazy how many 32X games they managed to release during the system's short commercial lifespan but it didn't happen without some issues here and there but yeah the mega drive port is so good all things considered. lot of widely acclaimed arcade ports on the system but also still many underrated ones (virtua racing but also after burner II, street fighter II or sunset riders for example)
@Lightblue2222
@Lightblue2222 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryzmaker11 heck yea
@chrisrobinson82
@chrisrobinson82 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I agree that future patches to improve multiplayer make the game unplayable in 10 years! I would say that the lack of pop in on the single player switch version surely brings it above the 32X version. Just going by the video comparisons it looks like it would be hard to judge most corners on the 32X version!!!
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt when comparing only the arcade mode, the Switch it the best. I'm still playing it. However, as a package, it's a mess and M2 shouldn't be praised for selling something that contains content that's broken. The only version I have issue navigating due to draw distance in the MD release. Everything else isn't a problem.
@Lightblue2222
@Lightblue2222 5 жыл бұрын
I love this game. Always glad to see videos on it. Of the 3 I've played, my personal rankings from best to worst. 1. Genesis. because everything feels right. Intense arcade racing, spot on mechanics. I can live without the coat of polish the others offer. 2. 32X. Would easily surpass Genesis if it had a proper drafting mechanic to gain extra speed, which in my opinion is needed to beat it on hard. What's racing without a slipstream? But it's still very fun. 3. Saturn. Has lots of content but just doesn't feel right and was hard for me to get into. Plus those slow go cart tracks are brutally boring, I lost my patients. I've still had hours of fun with 32x but the slipstream of the Original gives it that extra edge. I beat all 3 levels on hard on Genesis believe it or not. Wasn't easy but without the drafting I wouldnt have stood a chance. Is the 32x broken? Has anyone been able to beat it on hard? It's as if I can do perfect laps but never catch up to that 1st player. I'm fairly sure it's because it was designed for drafting and the programers messed it up.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not as good as when I was a kid playing for an hour a day every day after school. Back then I could beat every track on the 32X unlocking mirror mode on the first attempt.
@Lightblue2222
@Lightblue2222 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi Nice. I can beat all the tracks and unlock mirror mode on Normal but still trying to win on Hard. There's a way to gain extra speed from the other cars like Genesis, but for the 32x you have to physically bump the other car for it to happen. Giving it a unique fun element all on its own, it's just a matter of catching up to do it. Requires perfect laps and that you "bump draft" as many opponents as you can. If it were like Genesis and sucked you foward while still being a distance away im sure I would have beaten it by now, but it's a good challenge. One thing I love about the Genesis version, if you beat any one of the tracks on Hard it rewards you with a little show of a more detailed rendered car that closer resembled the 32x car. Has hubcaps, fire from the exhaust, and a few other things the in game car doesn't have. Nice lil show piece ;)
@Froban
@Froban 5 жыл бұрын
I want to take a look at all the Virtua Racing games. My only big hurdle is the Arcade version. I'll try figuring out a way...I guess.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you need a MiSTer.
@Froban
@Froban 5 жыл бұрын
Never mind, found a way. XD
@dad7275
@dad7275 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really fond of the 32x port although I've enjoyed the Saturn version too. I was disappointed the Genesis version couldn't be played on my 32x also...bummer..
@Jay-ct6wu
@Jay-ct6wu 5 жыл бұрын
What the hell? The Switch version IS the arcade. 32x looks like garbage.
@neat3468
@neat3468 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it doesn't feel and control like the arcade
@GXSCChater
@GXSCChater 5 жыл бұрын
@@neat3468 Yes it does, the problem is the online mode is garbage and the colors are a little off. This guy has not said once the switch version controls doesn't feel like the arcade, he even said the analog control is much improve compared to other versions.
@Jay-ct6wu
@Jay-ct6wu 5 жыл бұрын
GXSCChater I can live without online being great, as long as it looks as close to arcade perfect and controls well. Switch version is king imo. I don't understand what this guy was thinking with the 32x version.
@GXSCChater
@GXSCChater 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jay-ct6wu Yeah im happy with the switch version, the colors look weird but Im used to it.
@SwankeyMonkey
@SwankeyMonkey 5 жыл бұрын
The PS2 version looks like it uses the Zack Snyder filter.
@RetroGameLivingRoom
@RetroGameLivingRoom 5 жыл бұрын
32X version for life ;)
@BryanTruong
@BryanTruong 5 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this! Can't wait to watch it after work
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it.
@BryanTruong
@BryanTruong 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi And I did! Great hat, great job
@nosebeareatsfudge3275
@nosebeareatsfudge3275 5 жыл бұрын
Did you say "experiance" lol, great vid
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@doujindance
@doujindance 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer 32X version even now. I have felt challenging spirit against limited technology.
@iPlaySEGA
@iPlaySEGA 5 жыл бұрын
I still hope we see a Steam version someday...
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
That would be a nice addition.
@goukigod
@goukigod 4 жыл бұрын
So an arcade cabinet it is then!
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 2 жыл бұрын
20fps on 32x never knew that...
@123OGNIAN
@123OGNIAN 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was 30?
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 2 жыл бұрын
@@123OGNIAN video says 20 to 30 yup
@jameswalt1
@jameswalt1 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison! I love the 32x version. Call me crazy but I find the high resolution of the switch version off-putting. I much more prefer the lower resolution when combined with the flat shaded polygon look. The switch version just looks wrong to me, personally. Would love to see a video on Earthworm Jim, NBA Jam, Chuck Rock, Final Fight, Shadow of the Beast 2, Prince of Persia, Street Fighter 2, Daytona USA, to name a few ;)
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Of the games you listed, here are the ones you may see, not soon, but in the future. 100% happening (NBA Jam), 100% intend to cover at some point (EWJ, Streets of Rage), Games I'm would like to cover but are low on the priority list (Daytona, SF, Prince of Persia.)
@jameswalt1
@jameswalt1 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi Awesome! Yeah, Prince of Persia will be a nightmare since there's 100 different ports 😂
@MalakaOldGamer
@MalakaOldGamer 4 жыл бұрын
Your Hat make the video beter, and you know it..... Great video!!!
@TheSocialGamer
@TheSocialGamer 4 жыл бұрын
No one uses Nintendo's online function. It's what is known as the race to the bottom of online functionality of all current consoles. 🤣
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 4 жыл бұрын
So true~!
@Kikkoman85
@Kikkoman85 5 жыл бұрын
If Limited Run put out a physical copy of Virtua Racing on Switch, would that be enough to raise it to your #1 definitive way to play the game outside of the arcade? I agree that the online is a huge disappointment, but otherwise I think M2 did a great job with the port. I hadn't noticed the camera jumps because the only time I find myself feathering the accelerator is during turns. I wouldn't compare bad multiplayer to missing a third of the TV screen because I don't consider it a core component to the experience, especially when comparing it to the other versions which don't have it. I would say it's more like a commentary track that isn't interesting or a blooper reel that isn't funny.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt when comparing only the arcade mode, the Switch it the best. I even say as much in the video and I'm still playing it ( I do love the series). However, as a package, it's a mess and M2 shouldn't be praised for selling something that contains content that's broken. Ports come and go, but what really got me excited about a day one purchase was online play. It's the reason I wanted to revisit the topic with a dedicated video. It's also the reason I can't recommend it over the 32X. So even without a physical release, if they just fixed these issues it would come in first. As it stands I couldn't in good faith place it above a game that has no flaws within the package that was sold to consumers. You expected 32X rendered graphics, 3 cars, and five tracks. All of which were delivered without fault. With the Switch I expected more than just the arcade game and in fact, paid for more, but I'm unable to use it. So what we are left with is the arcade game. If that's all we get, I might as well wait for the Model 1 core to drop and play it via the MiSTer later this year.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Also wanted to thank you for the comment. I hope the one I just posted better explains the thought process behind the final ranking.
@Kikkoman85
@Kikkoman85 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi I really appreciate you taking the time to write back! I had a couple more comments regarding your concerns with the Switch version #1 Regarding the camera jerk when you start acceleration: The Switch version is the only version of Virtua Racing I have ever played, so I can't make comparisons from personal experience. However, I found this longplay of the arcade version: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdmAmaiBxrrFd6M.html . That same jerking around appears to be in there as well when the race starts and when the player is taking turns. #2 Regarding the online: If this was really your top priority with the latest version, then I understand your frustration. It's questionable, given that the main selling point was the 60fps/1080p, but understandable. However, it's important to keep in mind that this game was built by M2, a relatively small Japanese devteam. A lot of Japanese developers build netcode with Japanese infrastructure in mind. No consideration for longer distances between players and just generally crummier internet speeds. Any fighting game fan can relate to these problems. Maybe it works great over there, but I can't say for certain. Have you had a chance to watch MyLifeInGaming's documentary on M2? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMlld8-A0LXHhWg.html Based on what I saw there, I've really come to appreciate the effort they put in not just porting, but oftentimes remastering the old titles they put out. It really emphasizes in my mind why this SEGA AGES version should be the definitive version of the game. You're just not going to find a better experience running at 60fps/1080p or an easier way to play local multiplayer, even if you go the pirating route with FPGA systems or MAME. And all that for $10! Hopefully Limited Run games can put it out physically, or Sega can put out a classics compilation cart with Outrun or something. That way, we can keep enjoying the game even after the Switch e-shop goes down lol
@gamehorizon7883
@gamehorizon7883 5 жыл бұрын
Did you bust out a riding lawnmower to prove a point? I suppose I have to sub now. Great episode.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
😂🤣 I didn't have any mowing to do that day, it was all for the video. Thank you so much for watching and for the sub.
@desoft8b
@desoft8b 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the subtitles, I'm from spain.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 4 жыл бұрын
Glad they help.
@thehumbleone1983
@thehumbleone1983 5 жыл бұрын
Love the 32X Virtual Racing game
@KTJohnsonkidThunder
@KTJohnsonkidThunder 5 жыл бұрын
Likely I'll be getting the Switch release, but I will get the 32X version as well. I had the PS2 one before I lost it.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with either tbh.
@Krristopher
@Krristopher 5 жыл бұрын
I was never able to beat a single race. Every time I get nearly last or get so far behind I don't want to finish. Am I doing something wrong and is everyone else getting 1st easily? My favorite Genesis racing game was Kawasaki Super Bike.
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 5 жыл бұрын
We talking the Switch or other releases? It's all about learning the tracks.
@Krristopher
@Krristopher 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jenovi I have only played the Genesis, 32x, and Saturn console versions, but in all of them if I go to fast I crash and if I go slow enough not to crash I usually come in last.
@benji6871
@benji6871 2 жыл бұрын
has anyone here played the pico8 demake? that's right, they fitted this game into png!
@Tiriris
@Tiriris Жыл бұрын
Great analysis!
@GashdakSaghzaar
@GashdakSaghzaar 2 жыл бұрын
At 16:34 you said we had a Virtua Racing digital only game disappear. No we didn't. When?
@jonbelf2981
@jonbelf2981 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Also, I dig the hat!
@Jenovi
@Jenovi 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😁
@discodavid26
@discodavid26 3 жыл бұрын
If I owned a software company I would release an virtual racing lock-a-like game maybe called formula A? ? ? that merges the best features off f1 and Indy car racing with the odd mario kart type shortcut thrown in! and load in the best tracks of each decade eg hockinghiem ring/imola 90s Nurburgring 70s and fantasy tracks like modern monza with a modern oval joined to it…… somehow have Mexico City track with both the 90s banked last corner and the modern stadium setions (although in real life you can only go down 1 or the other) Indy car 1 oval of each size and shape plus all the good american road courses + long beach street track +Cleveland airport +Rio roval 90s etc etc Chuck in Daytona and Talladega thrown in for good measure! add rain/wet races+kers on or off options+ safety cars and virtual safety cars+refill/pit stops... and a fantasy dirt track (maybe Sau Paulo 70s layout ) and a ice track (maybe 80s rio road track layout at 150% scale) and a f-zero 64 type random track generator.........add virtua racing cars in each colour/2 colour combinations but when you choose different wing levels it looks/loads different wing polygons...............all tracks with standing f1 grid line starts.and then maybe job done box office smash!
@knkn5049
@knkn5049 2 жыл бұрын
do you tap too when steer? very strange mechanic when car rotates more if you release button
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