they wanted to make him the world teacher........he became the world teacher.

Wonderful! Beside him talking about the problems of life, sometimes it's good to hear JK taking about how it all started. Thanks for the post.

This guy is not the main street holy man. He is an enigma.

This is beautiful to hear Krishnamurti voice about his journey as boys, he and his brother, into theosphy and beyond. Mary Lutyens "The Life and Deat of Krishnamurti," I have had for years as when I found him and after his death many visits to his home and library in Ojai, California. Thank you, Krishnamurti Foundation for continuing his works and his lectures and his books remain with us. He did become become the world teacher. David Bohm's voice is heard on the background of this interview. 🙏❤️🌏🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵

I'm very happy I found Jiddu Krishnamurti

Love you sir... You taught me what love is. Thank you... My best friend you are sir... Wish I could find words to describe my love for you sir.

Thank you very very much for the linik connecting to the full video! Great Work you are doing. LG

Jiddu Krishna Murthy is indeed A World Teacher. Wisdom Thought💐🙏

Nice to listen the great info. Listening to JK's lectures is like real blessings. Highest form of intelligence.

thats why he was a great teacher...because he dident had a image...no ego...and they saw it😊

Let it be, let it be In my hour of darkness He is standing right in front of me..

The biography 'Krishnamurti: The Reluctant Messiah' by Sidney Field, who was a personal friend of Mr. Krishnamurti is a good read and goes into some of this information about his experience with the Theosophical Society and his attempted dissolving/leaving the organization. Very interesting book!

Leadbeater has indeed predicted right. JK is truly a world teacher and whose philosophy is the way of peace for anyone. Thanks to KZfaq. JK will live forever.

I find it interesting how he refers to himself in the third person, i.e. "the boy." I also find it interesting how he says that "nothing penetrated him" (mentally) because he was "vague" and "dreamy," as a boy and young man. So when he finally began speaking his mind, it wasn't an issue of having "doubts" about what the Theosophists expected of him, as much as it simply being an issue that all their expectations for and of him simply didn't "stick" in his mind. He saw clearly how they simply didn't apply to him. Talk about hollow expectations! What a shock it must have been for all those who had invested so much of their lives and money to set up the "world teacher" to then have him desolve it all from one day to the next! The irony, of course, is that they were indeed "clairvoyant" for they were not wrong. He indeed would become a world teacher, just not in the way they thought and expected he would . . . Something that K is leaving out of his recollection, if I'm to trust the biography I read years ago on his life, is that it was actually the sudden and unexpected death of his brother that caused him to question everything the Theosophists had inculcated in him. From what I recall, his brother had suffered with an ailment for some time, but they assured K that he, the brother, would be fine. K was extremely close to his brother growing up, since the two of them had been extricated from their home and family in India and taken away to England to be educated. So when the brother died, it rocked his foundation and trust in all those around him, and this was the real cause for his realization that everything he had been brought up to believe was an illusion, if not an outright lie. It was then that he turned his back on the Star of the East and the theosophists and struck out on his own, ultimately fullfiling the role he was predestined to be, that of world teacher.

He proved that he is a world teacher by refusing an authority of fake teacherhood

Wow!!!! First time to hear that directly from him. Thank you 🌻🙏💞🌌

When your spot on there's nothing anyone can do but get it!

You can see why people were taken by that quality of vacancy he had. Almost like a natural instinct that many of us lose as we go through life. He maintained it all his life. Nothing and no one got to him. I could be wrong here, but he always spoke from that vacancy. Which is probably silence. And may be why he could point out all this stuff most of us have difficulty seeing. Vacancy or silence, seems to put all that aside. Vacancy itself is nothing special, or to be worshipped, or take a drug for. I always think of that interview with one of JK's friends at Brookwood Park that said: "When I first met him, I didn't think he had a brain." Funny and true at same time.

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⚠️ Leadbeater and Anne Bessant predicted right. Krishnamurti would be a kind of a "world teacher", but not the way they thought it would be. Krishnamurti maintains that in spirituality, there can't be no authority at all, no masters, no saviours, no belief systems, no gurus. Every person should be a light to itself. Discover IF there's something "sacred" beyond the limitations of "thought" by themselves. In other words, everybody should track their own path, not following any book, any religion, any system. This is very difficult, because it assumes that each of us should discover through a life journey, as Buddha did. But almost no people are interested in discover who they are. They want someone to tell them who they are, or what they are. This is so absurd, as the guy who arrived at a hotel, asking to the receptionist, who is he. So, K. teaches on a different way: He asks questions, to awake each one to their own answers. He points the problems, and offers ways and doubts. He wants everyone to discover by themselves. ( ... Don't believe what I say... K. ) 🙏👍❤️

A system of thaughts tried to dictate this man life, deeply hurted, he replied by talking of freedoom ...a Tao of broken spontaneity ...I love his gentle soul...

i heard a talk of his he was talking of importance of sitting silently in morning with school student in 2018

He was boundless.

They saw that he was the future world teacher. But then they couldn’t help transforming him into the new Christ, and put him at the head of a religion. He teared-off all that fake illusion, and this was his first lesson, as the world teacher.

When was this recorded?

I find it a bit strange he refers to himself in the third person and doesn't remember his own childhood.

Ironically 99% of the people of the world don't know who the hell he is

They where looking for Manly P. Hall but found him😅

The members of theosophical society in that time , belived that krishnamurti will be a world teacher .when he talked as the teacher they did’t listen to his words. They were expecting a human body to worship rather to change themself.

Can you please identify the location in the photograph. It looks very much like Ashdown Forest near my home so i suspect it could be at Old Lodge (Countess De La Warr's home).

A person's show can be mistaken as an image. When we do not have the fundamental "set up" of "in person" communication , as in this audio-visual, the imaginations of people can go "off."

It's disappointing to hear him providing the Theosophical Society with any respect at all. They were completely demented.

Can someone tell me where can I find this full interview.

Can I find the full talk of this recording?

Wow so interesting. But not every Theosophy group is the same and this isn’t the aim of modern day Theosophy. This is a different sector. Annie Besant, in India. I have listened to many ULT Theosophical classes online and they preach against praising/worshiping the “personality.” So, when I see this/hear this, I know one has to be acquainted with Theosophical history, origins and the different off-shoots to truly understand that groups branched off, and not all of those groups or ideas were truly aligned with true Theosophical beliefs/teachings.

Being a light to oneself is a lot easier said than done. In reference to the orthodox Christian Churches, I would say there is very little one could glean from their dogma. It's been so twisted and diluted since St. Paul got a hold of it. In relation to Gurdjieff and his teaching, that is a method of waking up the true conscience. Gurdjieff taught a method of waking up. Different than that of yogis or Buddha etc.. Was there anything similar? I am not fully qualified to say, however Gurdjieff taught that Buddhism and other practices as they exist today are lopsided teachings. I believe if one picks up Gurdjieff's Opus Magus, "BEEZLEBUB'S TALES TO HIS GRANDSON" and were to read it from beginning to end. (first read is difficult- it becomes more palatable on each successive read), then perhaps one will recognize why I consider the book a sacred text. Also read "In Search of the Miraculous" and "The Fourth Way" both by P.D.Ouspensky.(Gurdjieff's top pupil) read and try to understand what is being given, one can do quite a bit on one's own IF you understand :Beelzebub's Tales". "Conscious labor and Intentional Suffering" is the teaching. It IS the Work. There are free resources on line to help with the understanding. You will have to discern which are valuable. If it is providing good information, you will know. Reading Beelzebub repeatedly IS a must. The other requirement is 'morning sitting'; essentially morning meditation for an hour if you can. This IS required. I was surprised to find many of the exercises taught by the Gurdjieff Group in California are exactly the same as those taught by the Rosicrucian order. Search KZfaq for this: "Rosicrucian practice or teaching" People need to understand why they are doing these practices. Gurdjieff explains all that in his great book. If one is on the path and searching and has a wish, then read the book. The two titles by Ouspensky highly recommended. Do you need to be part of a Gurdjieff "work group"? Maybe...to start with, however if you haven't read "Beelzebub's tales", why would you seek out a group? Because you're being lazy. Many people open Beelzebub and never make it through the opening chapter, because it IS a difficult read. It does get easier. This could be Gurdjieff's intention to ferret out those without a sincere wish. If you want enlightenment spoon fed, join Scientology (bring your checkbook). I respect Krishnamurti, but I disagree. This why history is filled with teachers and initiates. I worked with two different Gurdjieff groups over a 15 to 20 year period. I found them useful , but there can also develop an unhealthy dependence on an organization and perhaps even a saturation point. The work IS after all, on Oneself. Meditation and reading and studying Beelzebub IS the start. The nuances are in the two recommended Ouspensky books. Don't give up. Peace & Love.

"What happened was that I realised that Theosophy was a load of fucking balls."

One must have a great courage to dissolve the big organization. People with no self centered activities will be capable to do it. Adhi Shankar Nirvana Shataka and JK teachings are one and the same.

The advent of mysticism itself has generated a host of fictions, redundancies, and entrenched beliefs that continue unchallenged to this day. This is my challenge, which none of the gurus/influencers or their students/believers or whatever have taken me up on to date. Premise: A metamorphosis of the human being and the human condition is not only desirable but vital to our sustainability. To accomplish such a daunting transformation is "not" the domain of philosophy, academia, or some therapeutic encounter with a so-called teacher, practice, or community, but rather of "enterprise", itself, radically formatted for the task. Case in point, we have made it our primary industry to kill one another in order to defend our collective greed, inner fears, hostilities, addictions, and distractions that have also been made into massive profit centers, along with hospitals, pharmacies, herbal remedies and the like to cure us from the same. Nowhere have we proceeded with the same intent to harness our creative energies to profoundly change all aspects of our lives and world. The idea that there is a spiritual reality apart from our secular condition is itself a form of mass hypnosis and a schizoid state, introduced and fortified from birth to grave. K rejected theosophy as a trap, and here, I am rejecting K, not as an enlightened individual, but as a movement that he himself was exhorting everyone to reject in order to discover that primal or primary truth hidden behind the veil. I could say more, but to what purpose when genuine curiosity is in very short supply and even shorter demand.

I dont understand why he is saying they didnt know what they are doing if they do prepare him for the role he would make all his life

9:58 a face of corruption: master and disciple.

Not so sure about that. In an interview with his one time secretary, Alan Naude, he said they were not entirely wrong, just not subtle enough. Subtely of mind is obviously a key to transformation could we not say ? Transformation of mind is the necessity of truth isn't it.

They were right about JK ❤

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They did it😂

He was the chosen one in the sense that he was the enlightened one, the saint or whatever name you put on it. the teaching dough has always been the same. It never deeply differs. Just the way it is put into form differs.

For me, JK is all about freedom. Total freedom. And what happens when you are free? Liberated? You are left with the TRUTH...

Who is the ‘they’ being talked about here? The Theosophical society?

U take him as a great teacher fortunately he became nothing 🪷

Yep, they made a big mistake, I just don’t know why he kept on touring around the country preaching when he really had little to say other than the obvious which is question authority, which is just common sense. And he clearly had no substantive teaching of any use to anybody, IMO.

I have no concentration to listening to this :-/ I just want to state a few things from my opinion: I don't like the (possible) concept of Gurus, an essential person that You never can reach and this in some sense as the concept of pedestalization of Saints = a never reachable thing. Don't get me wrong, they are to me and You prob. not reachable but it is the hindrance in the attempt comming them near = the attempt to try to get so much better that You can deem this as a personal growth = a partial step/attempt towards the Saints as in opposition to the mentioned unconstructive pedestalization. (Maybe I'm wrong with any of this, please note my will for growth, the good and honesty towards God!) Now, maybe he is reffering to hinduism and even if not, there is a hughe issue in the Religions, thus the path to the greater truth is narrow but however not that essential! If You read the Quran where God is, from some aspect, just for some, actually ok with the problematic Christian take on Jesus is God. Anyway, You can picture the religious and "mind" issues from how the Sihk started: "Christianity and the Quran bear some teuth however not to the fully and we are starting therefore an new Religion" ok, I have to be diplomatic: If the Sikh are wrong, it would only uncover the everfailing fine AND weak human junction between the intellect, emotions and belief as well as the un-truthful and not so good listening to other not-truthful and not so good; The naked lead the blind.

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Isn't his favorite teaching:Dont follow any gurus.?And yet his whole efforts were to be a guru.

Just another fraud.

Did Krishnamurti visit Roswell, New Mexico in 1947? I understand that he was asked to and did visit for a special purpose.

Note he won't even name Leadbeater. Because he was quite literally his butt-boy. Leadbeater even admitted it in court. "Doesn't remember" He certainly remembered how to play Leadbeater's game though. The Theosophical Society did nothing more than exploit Victorian Era superstitions and the emerging New Age movement. Sincere seekers always left them- with the smartest one being Steiner.