That actually makes sense

What a brilliant observation

I can see Orton winning and bloodline coating him against gunther

Tama winning could definitely push the story forward depending on how he does it. If they cheat as a team to win, they could get both Gunther and Randy against them, you could add in a Kaiser and Dragunov into that mix to even the odds as it gives a reason for Jacob Fatu to join. It also furthers the story of who even gets to wear the crown. Is it Tama cause he was the one in the tournament? Is it Solo because he’s the current leader? Does no one wear it and they hold onto it until the Rock comes back, boom The Rock now has the crown and he can connect that to the throne (triple H and Cody) or even connect it to Stone Cold who is the most famous and iconic King of the ring. If I had to bet money I see Gunther winning straight up and just using the crown like another midcard title though.

Didnt Haku win king of the ring?

@@glennross85 Yes.

Gunther vs. Orton was the finals I wanted to see from the start of the tournament, Tonka Trucks doesn't need this lol. Judging by that pre-match segment he had on SmackDown last week, he could use a promo class, instead.

As opposed to the Queen's Crown tournament they had there like 2 or 3 years ago?

@@TheMuddFishhthat was dumb af too. Everybody has a price tho those Saudis got money to spend

@thecrawlr7425 you're implying that the saudis pushed for queen of the ring? Now i cant even keep up with who is arguing for what. Its just noise.

Nah they already did Queen's crown which was a waste really.

The First Queen Of The Ring Tournament was in Saudi Arabia, I think Zelina Vega won that.

It wasn't Owen. He wasn't even there!

It was Gables Story in the first place. They slapped Sami in to steal the entire program after he just decided to ignore that drew hospitalized him for months.

I don’t dislike Sami, but for some reason everyone feels the need to “give Sami his moment”. He won the NXT championship back when NXT was red hot, he got to wrestle Cena in his hometown and be introduced by Bret fucking Hart, he was a key part in the biggest, hottest angle in the company with The Bloodline, he got to wrestle Roman one on one, he main evented night one of Wrestlemania 39 with his best friend and they won the belts…I like the guy well enough but how many fucking storybook moments is this guy owed?

@@kevinwooster3003 because he's a good fucking pro wrestler. do you want him to be a terrible heel getting treated like a joke? your favs can't lace his boots

Gunther needed to drop the belt and move on to other things. Gable needed to turn heel and the belt. The IC needed a transitional babyface champion that won’t be hurt by dropping the belt right away.

@@humbleguy1533 A lot of the ppl frothing mad over Sami beating Gunther all fail to understand these fairly simple points. I would've loved to see Gable win the title at WM, but the right guy faced Gunther and won.

She got mad n was grumbling in japanese ab the ref it was kinda funny she’ll be ight tho she slowly growing on me

iyo makes everyone she works with look like a million bucks.

If it wasn't Iyo I was expecting TIFFY TIME to win. Now i worry it will be the return of Mabel with Queen Nia Snax or Super Cena Blair winning.

She has no personality. Nia is best choice

@@wildwine6400 Her personality is "yells repeatedly for no reason". She's a caricature and they need to change the way they present her immediately.

Agreed, I hope they give Sky-Valkyria a fair watch, because it was a good match. I haven't seen a lot of Lyra, but I like her work from what I have seen.

There's no way Corny watches that match. It has a Japanese wrestler and they're both "tiny."

Lyra vs Zoey was the highest viewed segment last week on Raw as well

I worry Nia winning the Queen of the Ring will be the second coming of Mabel. I do agree Super Cena Blair doesn't need the win, but she and Jade are all over the promo art. If they weren't going to push IYO or Tiffy TIME, Lyra seems the right choice.

@@talon12020 I'm willing to take that bet too and Brian to skip RAW altogether.

A meaningless "world title" that has no prestige, no legitimacy, no history. That isn't needed and shouldn't have been created in the first place. Which logically is less prestigious than the WWE Intercontinental heavyweight championship he just lost. Only the WWE championship that Cody Rhodes holds is a legitimate bigger championship.

@@anonymousbo0318 Yep and it being introduced as participant trophy was more worst. But I think if it's built around guys like Punk, Drew and Gunther it will gain back it's prestige and elevate it. Roman Reigns made the Blueberry Title meant something to fight for and elevate it. So I believe it can still get back in track.

WWE eventually realised they made a error at WM38 by unifying the belts and they backed themselves into a corner. In all fairness.the Seth/Drew feud gave the new title some credibility, if Drew wins it back at the castle ple, the Drew and CM Punk feud should add to that.

He would beat Cody there in a perfect world.

@@anonymousbo0318Cody’s title feels like a midcard title now that he has it. He wasn’t the guy to take it from Roman

😂

Haku didn’t win a tournament. He was awarded the crown due to Harley Race’s injury.

@@mattlong81as a heel Tama would just say they both won it

Of course that's how it's written

King of Fighters?

As long as he doesn’t adopt a British king gimmick it works

Spoilers it will happen

Bingo

will be interesting to see what name he'll have, can see the internet having a meltdown if they go down a certain route.

HE WILL BE HOLY ROMAN EMPEROR OF THE RING, SCHWEINHUND!!!

Id agree but you're a rangers fan 😂

​@@northleedspoppaFair enough lol

just wish they did the leg injury angle with one person and not both bianca and randy - dragunov jobbing to anyone else but jey would've been better too.

Because Orton has been a star in WWE for two decades and has every other accomplishment. He'll be at the same level win or lose. Harley won it to establish him after arriving to the company and was also given the King gimmick which Randy is not going to be using.

It would definitely help elevate kotr for what it means and the value having a legend like orton winning. But I think with gunther it helps gunther and the status of kotr

King Gunther is coming.

100%. Terrible booking there

When AEW went full Spaceballs.... Tony proving his is in fact Dark Helmet.

Politics

Well Tama not jobber material in my opinion I believe he will be big like Roman Reigns.

Should have been a bigger screw job

Don't get me wrong, I'm not thrilled (or surprised) that Tonka Trucks beat LA Knight, but that wasn't a clean win lol. Solo distracted LA Knight which allowed Tonka to do his generic finisher that R-Truth has had for over a decade now.

Wasn’t clean at all. Lmaooo

Spear Orton, get into a program with him and help Gunther win.

The bloodline should help her win thus making her a bloodline member.

Fridge who?

It’s a 10 year deal and they love whatever they get lol

Lmao you think Saudis want to see heel vs heel?

would be anticlimactic but at least gunther's still kotr in that matchup

I honestly didn't think of the heel vs heel so Randy winning makes sense but I still think either way Gunther is KotR

I was right though Gunther won!

Would he or should he win it?

@@BUPMY1 I would absolutely put Gunter over Cody in Germany, but I'm a big Gunther fan and also a stoner so 😆 🤣

Triple H said yesterday the winners are getting title shots at Summerslam

Queen of wrestling in Nascar driver suits in 90+ degree desert heat... I hope Jade Cargil never has to do a match there. That'd just be blasphemy.

Obviously Randy, it can't be Heel v Heel in the final. Multiple world champion Orton putting over an ascending main eventer like Gunther is the right move. Especially if he chokes Randy out in the middle of the ring like he did with Jey.

Don't worry. He didn't. Gunther choked him out Monday.

@@virgilhawkins7368 Good. Then it will be Gunther vs Randy Orton. And hopefully Gunther wins KOTR.

So are you saying live on The Jim Cornette Experience that Cody's run as champ is a bore/flop/disappointment?

@@BUPMY1 It absolutely has. I get we're in the typical lull after WM but in years past, this is when those smaller mid-card feuds would turn up a little more to fill in until the main event scene was refueled.

yup. i would have watched the women’s queen of the ring if Iyo won. since she’s out of it so is my interest.

I think its less of a big deal to just add the word queen and acknowledge that times have changed than to resist it

@danieljohnston2379 yeah, no. I'll stick with tradition that means something over forced participation trophies to appease betas on Twitter.

@@chrisbelit1599 that wouldn't have made it mean anything either.

Sorry no it's not. Because female fans like my children want to see the women as much as I watch the men. GET OVER IT equality is equality and if you even use that stupid analogy of its like having dinner with dinner. No, it's called serving more than one customer.

They already have an event in Saudi called Crown Jewel that would have fit just fine.

No

Either call it King of the Ring or retire the name entirely. Adding the Queen part feels like their just stapling it for inclusions sake.

Then the men should step their game up lol

You are right, the special matches like royal rumble/elimination chamber/tlc and such should just be done for women only now to keep special matches truly special, there's no reason to do both, men's wrestling will be fine without them

⁠@@Slimo1908If they took away the Mens rumble or elimination chamber nobody would watch just to see the women do it.

Because 'king of the ring' still has name value. Idk why a bunch if neckbeards are so uoset.

Shutit

they've already got Crown Jewel as another person here commented, easy swap for them.

He's of Syrian descent

@@ryankatz7707 That's Arabic. Even Mojo Rawley was of Arab decent.

So, in other words, it's just pandering and nothing more. Obviously. However, Homeless Sami Lame is still a terrible Champion and was the single worst choice to beat Gunther. If you disagree, that's ok, you're just wrong, plain and simple. Not everybody can be right about everything.

@@TheAnonymousIndividual They should have had Bron Breakker beat Gunther honestly.

@@lbo87 Bron Brekker, Ilja Dragunov, Chad Gable, Sheamus, and etc. Many options, all of them great and each make sense. Homeless Sami Lame beating Gunther is the dumbest and worst booking that Trips has done.

Because he stinks

He was in saudi last year

@danielcody874 thanks for correcting me. But i still dont think SZ loses

Don't get me wrong, I know Homeless Sami Lame will sadly and unfortunately retain. However, by all means, he should lose it. He was the worst choice to dethrone Gunther and he's pretty much modern Mick Foley, minus everything that made Foley likeable and worthy of a Title. Bronson Feed shouldn't win it either. Chad Gable deserves it (so does Sheamus but he's not in the match, so that's an irrelevant point).

@TheAnonymousIndividual I agree SZ was the wrong choice. They must have known before hand Ilja and Breaker were going to be drafted to RAW. It should have been one of them to dethrone GUNTHER if it wasn't Gable or Shaemus last year.

@@TheAnonymousIndividualwhy does sheamus deserve it he’s about to retire

My man gunther beat jey the match already happened on raw.

​@@ThePhoenix24the 20,000 fans in arenas don't think so. He is over and he will be pushed whether you like him or not

I mean aren’t rock and bucks the 2 most powerful wrestlers in their promotion lol

@@ThePhoenix24 because WWE has never done the same thing ad nauseum

@@mrnicemam8523 and in the end all that matters is the numbers.

Imagine having a brain and separating your different clauses. 😅😅😅