when a piece of animation has more realistic acting than a film...with actors.

I feel like with the fuse killing enemy police force yadayada he shouldn't be running but should be eerily walking like he did in the original movie

A fact that Killzone enemy soldiers are inspired by Jin-Roh.

Jin-Roh 2018 did to the original Jin-Roh what Paul Verhoeven's Starship Troopers did to the original Starship Troopers's book: completely flip the political and philosophical meaning. The original Jin-Roh is about refusing the idea of clear Victims and Opressors, asking the viewer to grow up from such a semplistic view of human conflict. It is also about the dehumanization of soldiers and trauma. Jin-Roh 2018 is about legitimazing political violence when "right" and rebellion. It took the carefully constructed message of "the world is not like Little Red Riding Hood, grow up" (literally trowing the book in the mud at the end of the film) and turned it into "there are only LRRH and Wolfs, don't be a wolf". Hiroyki Okiura and Mamoru Oshii should be very angry.

Jinroh 2018 didnt do any justice to the og Jinroh, especially the ending. The new one emphasis on action rather than philosophical and study of social and human nature. Many people that i recommend Jinroh the original say it was boring and slow paced. Which is i think its great because its the slow burn that in the end will make lasting impact on audience, its supposed to be gloom and doom and dystopian. And people says the original Jinroh have a little action times (shooting scenes etc) but i think its also great because every death feels "heavy" instead of just senseles ultra violence. But the ending is what really makes me sick.. they throw away the original ending for some cheesy "Love will triumph in the end" which basically throw away the true message of Jinroh. We are not men dressed as dogs. We are wolves dressed as men.

The worst part to me was just that by changing the back story they created a huge disconnect where suddenly the weapons/armour/vehicles used just don’t fit the era or world anymore. Really only there to go “Looks this was cool in jin roh right???” with no consideration to the story’s world. Though I think that sentence also could apply to the entirety of the 2018 version as well.

Jin-roh looks like hunk from resident evil 2 but more upgrades

Exactly, the remake misses the point of the original, i couldn't understand why they copied the set-up just to make a complete 180. And like you mentioned, the original conveys much more emotion, especially during romance scenes. In remake i felt like the actors had no chemistry between them at all, which makes the ending even more nonsensical and out of nowhere. Great video!

The only issue I had with 2018 is the ending. It just seems so forced and hopeful. If Jin Roh is anything, it's not hopefull. It just seems so forced that I have to wonder whether or not some executive read the script and said "yeah, we can't have a sad ending." I honestly felt robbed. All of this development for a weird super trooper fight that ends with a cliche "gunshot while the camera is pointed at the sky" It's like diet soda. It tries to be sweet but the bleh is always present.

The remake fails because of it's tendency to stick to K-Drama cliches. Edit: Thanks for the likes bros.

I personally think anime fans in general give Illang FAR too much grief. If taken as a film in of itself, it's very well crafted. Solid cinematography; minimal CGI with what is on display being very well integrated for a non-Western film; inspired casting; good acting; and above all else, the screenplay was very well adapted with sufficient gravitas given to the source material. If you roll all of that into the fact that the material was re-interpreted by a Korean cast and crew to tell a story that reflects S. Korea instead of trying to wholesale force a Japanese narrative to fit their setting, then it should be easy to see that Illang is likely one of the best live action adaptations we've ever gotten of an anime. I understand that people were (and kind of still are) upset about the changing of themes and the slightly heavier focus placed on action, but none of this is unexpected. It was a different country (hence changing themes) and the studio which financed the film would be hesitant to release a big-budget introspective art house film (hence the action). But all things considered, these things were balanced VERY well. Especially when you consider the TERRIBLE quality of the mentioned adaptations of Bleach, Death Note and Full Metal Alchemist. Even the massively budgeted Ghost in the Shell film starring Scarlett Johansson utterly failed to represent its source material in any meaningful way...and that was Big Hollywood doing its "best". Illang exists but its existence doesn't erase Jin-Roh. And it's ok to like both for their individual nuances. You want something contemplative with a gut punch ending? Watch Jin-Roh. You want something with a bit more action and an ending where the protagonist's struggles landed him in a better place? Watch Illang. Illang: The Wolf Brigade really deserves better than what people give it credit for and I think it warrants a second viewing, lofty expectations aside, so that it can be appreciated for what it genuinely tried to capture from Jin-Roh.

I don’t watch anime often at all, so I don’t know why this was recommended to me. But the armor those soldiers wear has to be the most badass evil looking thing I have ever seen.

What a shame. I feel like the live-action 2018 version could've reinforced and focused on the realistic and brutal side of the original Jin Roh.

To be honest the live action look more animated than the anime version doing KungFu moves and jumping around on that armor wtf even de anime isn’t that crazy

good video, you're pretty underrated

I didn't mind the totally different ending. A part of me always wondered "what if Fuse/Lim took a different path?" The movie provided its own venture into that "what if". Fuse and Lim are definitely very different people too; Fuse struck me as a beast whereas Lim always seemed more human to me - which makes their respective choices at the ending more understandable. Besides all that, I truly appreciated that some of the original soundtrack was included in the live action movie. Overall I wasn't disappointed, I'm just glad that this will lead to more people watching the original Jin Roh animation that otherwise would've never known about it.

I thought Jin Roh was Wolfenstein from the police armor suits.

The only good live action adaptation of anime has to be 2008's Speed Racer and you cannot change my mind on that

The live action was okay but to be honest I prefer all the Panzer Cop scenes of the original, something about their slow sluggish movements even while running made them seem so much more tanky.

When i watched the ending of the adaptation i was left with a big ?. I felt so betrayed. Why go for that ending? I love the anime ending. I don’t care about all the other changes they did in the movie, i want the original ending.😭

I wish I didn't lose my copy of Jin-Roh during a move. Now I want to watch it all over again. That animation is gorgeous. I still have a version of Akira on VHS (yes VHS.)

Thank you for making a video about Jin Roh! It's one of my favorite, most underrated animated movies of all time!

I'm a huge fan of Kim Jee Won, and have been following him since Foul King, The Good The Bad The Weird, A Tale of Two Sisters and of course my favourite I Saw the Devil. When he announced that he's adapting one of my absolute favourite Japanese animation Jin Roh and casted my favourite Korean actress Han Hyo Joo, I was THRILLED. I don't think Inrang was inherently bad, but his treatment of the film just couldn't match up to its predecessor. I don't get why for a director who's so infamous for his grim endings had to change a perfectly fine and poetic ending of Jin Roh, so whatever shitshow that was in Inrang. However my favourite point of Inrang was during the retelling of the Little Red Riding Hood, and Mizoguchi Hajime's original soundtrack Grace Omega came out. To me, that was the best moment of the entire movie.

I get goosebumps every time I see the suicide scene. Its extremely well done

I always saw the live action as the happy ending we all thought we'll get in the original, until he pulled the trigger and our heart sunk

The base story in the live action has noticeable differences, however its probably the only live action remake of an anime I've seen that not only inst terrible but that's also really very good.

Tbh I actually got movie depression after watching Illang and Jin Roh movie because of the movie ending got me super curious. Would take me a month to get over it

I was considering to watch the live action Jin-roh... until I saw the comparison of the suicide bombing scenes. The despair and terror on the girl's face in the animation, Fuse's doubt and hesitation... they're overwhelmingly better than the pure spite of the girl in the live-action adaptation and Fuse's robotic movement. Thank you for saving me precious time I would have wasted with the live action film.

I can actually see why this is a mirror of the original Jin Roh movie. Lin (the main protag here) was an unwitting participant of the incident "Bloody Friday", where 14 or so women succumbed to the roar of MG42s. This, I believe, was the catalyst to get Lin kicked over the edge to mirror Fuse in his refusal to kill the one he loved. Contrary to Fuse, whose division went straight for the masks, Lin's division went for night vision goggles before the masks post Bloody Friday. Why do I say this? They were able to flip the goggles up quickly to see what happened. He was human, but Fuse was already a beast in armor.

When I was watching Wolf Brigade with my fiancee, the whole time I was waiting for the "and the wolf ate little red ridding hood" scene. Imagine my shock when it never came and veered off into something completely new. Had to explain that apparently K-Dramas like happy endings lmfao I do agree that the animation is a superior film, but I did enjoy the LA as well. Only wish that the Massacre of the other team was as one sided as the animation, really showed what a beast he really was.

Jin-Roh (1999) must be one of my favorite movies to the point where I even used the MG42 firing sound ( which is not how the actual MG42 sounds ) for my RC Tamiya 1/16 Flakpanzer Gepard ( which also doesn't sound like that ) just because of how kickass it sounds and how well it matches xD

The moments of pause and silence breath with life and leave room for interpretation and contemplation. That was what was moving in Jin Roh for me. It makes you ask what the character asks; 'Why?'

Jin Roh was the best, i hate live adaptations they never do the originals justice

I just find it odd that they decided to live action-ify Jin Roh, when (A) It itself is a remake of several chapters of the Kerberos Saga manga so you’re adapting an adaptation (B) Adapting some other part of the franchise to live action would be more interesting (C) Jin Roh WAS originally intended to be live action and to be directed solely by Mamoru Oshii and feature his distinct style, but it was changed later to being animated with Oshii only writing the script, so it becoming live action is somewhat ironic. I mean, I didn’t hate the 2018 version. I actually found it somewhat interesting, but again, it’s trying to remake a movie fundamentally considered a classic which is an uphill battle AND comes across as redundant. I’d have preferred a new movie all together set in the Kerberos Saga universe, not a remake of a remake, even if it is a good remake of a remake.

Fantastic video, your comments at the end reminded me of the reviews for Jin-Roh which are mostly non anime viewers enjoying the movie but questioning why it needed to be a cartoon instead of being filmed with real actors.

You mentioned berserk, you get my subscription :P (rip Demo)

Brilliant animation man. I just can't stop thinking about it. Such a shame that I've pretty much never heard anyone talking about this show

So the riots in jin-roh is basically hong kong rn

Unpopular opinion: I love both!

I didn't know HUNK from Resident Evil got his own movie

Great video man ^^

Well, listen.....the anime was shocking and the ending was so sad for me and it will be the original Jin Roh.....but in a way the movie gave me the bitter sweet ending that i always wanted. They don't get a love story but we get to see that love is not a physical/sexual thing so he let's go the thing he loves in a beautiful and poetical ending. I still would have liked it more if they got their happy end because one was a government killing machine with no feelings and the other one was a victim of politics and terrorism just to save someone. I cried at the end because both these strong characters survived to become better humans, ubermensch almost because they were almost on the limit. In the anime....i feel like both characters died when he pulled the trigger

I honestly really liked jin roh. It's narrative is extremely interesting and, from someone who's seen a lot of cliche endings, subverted my expectations. I really gotta thank my friend for this.

Just wanna mention that in 2019 we actually got Alita: Battle Angel, which seriously was amazing

I’m going to check this out and watch this

this deserves a sub

I guess we can appreciate the live action movie for helping elevate the anime and maybe getting folks curious enough to track down the anime

in the live action film mentions the anime ending

The 1999 is still and will be a masterpiece allways i love the 1999 Film and saw it like 12 Times right now

4:25 also she shows the pulling as if in rage nor sadness. The original got a bit of pull but hesitation, and acceptance in a second.

By far one of my alltime favorits along with Gungrave, Black Lagoon and Hellsing

I'll watch the 2018's version when I happen to find it on TV - but I'm still happy that I got the Anime.

I actually turned off Wolf Brigade sometime after the midpoint. The recreation of the film locations was masterful work, but the camerawork did not measure up, and the shot-for-shot recreations stuck out like a sore thumb in the middle of the edits, and looked purely perfunctory, and sorely lacking in impact, as you mentioned. There were also several shots where the camera angle angle and zoom level was amateurish (the food court scene comes to mind) and it bugged me and I'm no cinematographer.

4:39 You forgot to mention the pacing, in the live adaptation that scene flew faster, leaving you less time for feeling any kind of emotion.

I really enjoyed the live action even with is different ending.

Glad I found this review, the original animation is one of my all time favorites animovies, won't waste a sec on the adaptation.

Does this fit in with with the two prior films? The Red Spectacles and Stray Dog?

2yrs later....

Just finished watching the original 1999, didn't even realize they made a remake. Glad I watched the original and not the new one

I still have no idea why live action move took place in nowadays South korea. I really loved alternate history set up and atmosphere of anime. Whole background of modern korea in live movie was just boring since it was nothing different from my daily life in Seoul. It would be at least genius and fascinating if whole movie took place in alternate korea of 1950s, Separated by Germany and Japan.(Although Japan completely losts at war in original) BUT NOPE. Nowadays korea. That's all.......

I was wondering which one I should watch, if the original or the new one. Thanks, I will watch the original over the new one.

Korean movies are very very colorful regardless of genre. Even the tragic ones are candy colored. So I am not surprised with this change, it's just easier.

I find it funny that people expect any form of a remake/live adaptation of a classic to somehow be better or faithful to the original. Art is like capturing lightning in a bottle there is absolutely no way any director could reproduce that same media and keep all the elements you once appreciated.

I liked the ending of the movie. It was pleasing to see the main character man up and overcome his boss telling him what to do and go with the girl he loves. Better to stand up and face the odds than live the rest of your life with regret.

Damn right 90’s Berserk is brilliant. I didnt have access to the comics so I went 15+ years wondering what happened between the ending and episode 1, until Golden Age Arc 3 came out.

I honestly bowed out after the first hour of Illang. I came in immediately after watching Jin-Roh and was optimistic of this remake/adaptation but was quickly disappointed and down right fustrated that the film, despite being longer added nothing new to the story that was originally told and it honestly amazed me the first time when he would talk about Little Red riding hood. And how the story there was same but was so themeatic and relavent to the current one that's being told. It blew my mind when I finished the film and realized, that in many aspects, it gave you the ending before the story was told and that in itself was a retelling of Little Red Riding Hood. Illang on the other hand, just tells you the story in full detail runing and subtely the film has. Honestly I could go on but no is going to read this much more in full, sorry. But seriously please go watch Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade by any means and avoid watching the Illang version on Netflix.

Honestly though I think that although, in the movie, they kept saying "We are wolves disguised as men". I believe Fuse is a man disguised as a wolf as he shows so much emotion, hesitation and morals. EDIT: Notice in the sewer fight scene towards the end (in the OG Jin-Roh), Fuse waits for his enemies to shoot first. This is small, but it is evidence of his morals.

Sucide scene in which girl has fear and sadness is more human than the real scene from movie where girl get tear from onion

I just love the fan service with the armor

There is a Third one. There is an earlier or later not sure Live Action that is related to Jin Roh. I have seen it on here in You tube. Its kind of hard to find, but ask the Japanese section of the KZfaq about it. It does exist. Its called Kerebos.

Sounds like what happens with a lot of remakes- taking just enough of the content that it's a franchisename-themed movie, but then changing random stuff just to be different and disrupting the craft of the story in the process.

the suit was spot on though..looks badass

It sounds like this movie gets some of the stuff right that "Stray Dog: Kerberus Panzer Cop" got wrong but also manages to get some of the stuff wrong that the other movie got right. Anyway, i would maybe watch it but it seems hard to find.

There’s a 2018 version? Never knew

Jin-Roh (2018) was a good movie to me even if its not close to Jin-Roh (1999) but at least it has great fight scenes and a interesting story

I liked the live action as well as the animated one.

WHY DO I FOUND OUT NOW THAT JIN ROH HAS A LIVE ACTION MOVIE?!

How the hell do you only have 980 subscribers?

I watched the new Jin ROH and it was AMAZING one of the best live action films. Also a great subversive Nerrative.

Did everyone ever thought of kill zone?

Is it just me or is the satchel charge the girl was holding a lot more devastating in the 1999 version?

Seen on Netflix almost enough for me now to subscribe to Netflix again just to now watch

where did u find 2018 version?

i love the 2018 why because it shows no matter the place the this can happen anywhere

where can i watch this

I honestly just like the cool dudes in armor

I still prefer this to the original ending.. call me cynical, but I would never kill someone I love for a work-mate. I find it hard to understand people who justify it as "Art".

You do realize that Jin-Roh started out as live action with the 1987 film: The Red Spectacles. After that original movie the director made a comic expanding on the universe and 2 prequel films. Another live action film in 1991 titled: Stray Dog: Kerberos Panzer Cops, then the animated Jin-Roh in 1999.

Thanks for this comparison I think The live action version had a happier ending then the animated version.I Think Redemption was what separated the animation from the live action.The animated version he remains a wolf & she dies knowing he was a monster, in the live action she lives to see another day proving he is no longer a Wolf.

Wait... Full Metal Alchemist and Bleach had live-action adaptations? When did this happen?

oh shitttt how come i’ve never heard of this

the only upside to the 2018 version is seeing more live-0action Protect Gear's in motion since there's not been much Kerberos Saga stuff lately.

I haven't seen the anime, so my opinion isn't worth much propably. But as a cineast i can tell, that the movie had a very melancholic, dark and intense atmosphere to it, that i really liked. The dialouges where beautifully written, the action was coreographed fantastically and the visuals where just gorgeous. That is everything i can tell about it, from a movies perspective. I do give a shit about the original, book anime or whatever medium it was, if the movie in itself is good and manages to keep you invested into the experience.

Never seen JinRoh but might after this video. Also the brigade design looks alot like the Helghast troops from Killzone.

The Gundam live action Movie is coming out but it will most likely succeed since its made by Legendary and sunrise is taking control of the decisions made unlike most live action adaptations

I think that when a criticism is to be given on an adaptation of a film, it is best to block out certain areas of what we tend to call "cliché". Its cliché since we've seen it in so many other films. The main concern is what you call the narrative in this story. What is the writer trying to convey ? And how does the director help make it happen. If the film had been a shot for shot adaptation, people would have said: "Well that was a waste of time." They've seen it before, so its up to the creative team to create something new from the original. Its very difficult and trying to do that can sometimes work... or not. However we are all different so any one can love this film as much as someone else can loathe it.

If the Panzercops are real... boi I would definately sign up for the uniform and armor

Movies that are impossible to make: Video-game movies, anime adaptations.

I literally dropped this adaptation half the way, the main two characters were pretty dumbed down along with the moral/ethical dilemmas the original tackled, the original is a good guerrilla drama about alienation while the live-action is just a silly action flick. I remember I also compared the suicide/sacrifice scene to see how inferior it was lol.

You know there is the Mel Brooks version of "The 12 Chairs" vs the multiple Russian versions of the same story. The Mel Brooks ending just GUTS the story! But in that case it caters to an American audience.