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JinSoul Killed ViVi...(In the Lore) | Orbiting the Loonaverse

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@Hidye1
@Hidye1 3 жыл бұрын
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@alvarobolivar8484
@alvarobolivar8484 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you had to specify in the title that Jinsoul didn’t literally killed ViVi lol
@abitclosertoheaven5659
@abitclosertoheaven5659 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta watch out for them FBI agents.
@AyoWtf648
@AyoWtf648 3 жыл бұрын
69th like... nice.
@crystalorbit5767
@crystalorbit5767 3 жыл бұрын
some people would think its in an mv
@mollys932
@mollys932 3 жыл бұрын
I M A G I N E
@sarahh6875
@sarahh6875 3 жыл бұрын
@@mollys932 AH AH AH I I IMAGINE
@taybaaziz6190
@taybaaziz6190 3 жыл бұрын
I think that Yeojin failing her classes was also a fake rumor spread around. As far as I can remember about that time is that no vote took place and BBC never gave a clear message as to why ViVi was revealed without a solo and why Yeojin was excluded.
@dannybyu0158
@dannybyu0158 3 жыл бұрын
They did vote actually, I remember voting for 3H (HeeJin,HyunJin&HaSeul) at the time because we knew them longer ✌️. So basically that's what happened, Orbits did vote
@theetaurus1832
@theetaurus1832 3 жыл бұрын
@@dannybyu0158 they were obviously gonna put vivi in the subunit tho
@dannybyu0158
@dannybyu0158 3 жыл бұрын
@@theetaurus1832 Of course. The claimed that it was 1/3 that it meant 3 (of the already revealed members) + 1 new hidden member (ViVi)
@multistan_momoringeu64
@multistan_momoringeu64 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannybyu0158 yea. ive seen videos (umm the same channel lol) saying 1/3 doesn't actually mean 1/3 of the group (like 4/12) but it means 1=vivi /=yeojin 3=3h
@dannybyu0158
@dannybyu0158 2 жыл бұрын
@@multistan_momoringeu64 yes, that's true. But when they published the teaser, the concept was the one that I explained before. Then we discovered that YeoJin was the "/" of the sub-unit
@devinelovinsky8704
@devinelovinsky8704 3 жыл бұрын
Wait but I feel like Jinsoul did have her power a bit longer than the rest of OEC tho. In Sweet Crazy Love, she's the only one with an eye patch in the beginning. The other girls are all completely fine without wearing one, only feeling a sort of itch or uncomfortable feeling in their eye (Kim Lip & Choerry rubbing their eye in the second verse) when their odd eye is getting activated. That is a sign that Jinsoul has been having problems with her eye even before Sweet Crazy Love.
@Random-rv3us
@Random-rv3us 3 жыл бұрын
Also she could be wearing it for hiding her odd eye
@miya3746
@miya3746 3 жыл бұрын
@@Random-rv3us but she discovered it after the fish so that makes no sense
@diariodeunagirlgroupstan765
@diariodeunagirlgroupstan765 3 жыл бұрын
My theory is that Vivi was originally from yyxy, where she planned to escape Eden with Yves, but by not biting the apple everything went wrong and instead of falling to the ground she fell into the "in-between" where Jinsoul saved her by giving her an "odd eye" "This" odd eye "is what makes her a robot. That's probably why Yves is so careful with the steps necessary to leave and with the other members of yyxy, because she knows how badly she can end up.
@barbiana1802
@barbiana1802 2 жыл бұрын
@SuA's SinB i dont think ViVi had a representative fruit, i think she represented the rose in general. ViVi's colour is pastel rose. normally we dont overthink things like this but this is loona lore so something as simple as ViVi's colour being pastel rose should be noted.
@IrmaGonzalez
@IrmaGonzalez 3 жыл бұрын
I would love a video explaining Gowon's role in the loonaverse, because I see many people mentioning how she can reverse time, and how she's the only one that knows the dark side of the moon. And why was she floating over the hurricane?
@cewlwithyew
@cewlwithyew 10 ай бұрын
no one's talk Abt her 😭😭
@clairdeloona7411
@clairdeloona7411 3 жыл бұрын
I think that if not evil, Jinsoul is at least allied with Hyejoo.
@jeongjinsoulsvocals923
@jeongjinsoulsvocals923 3 жыл бұрын
Neither Jinsoul nor Hyejoo are evil, they're just antiheroes. I think that all the girls have the same goal, they just have conflicting information and methods.
@clairdeloona7411
@clairdeloona7411 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeongjinsoulsvocals923 yeah, I guess that makes sense. The one I’m really confused abt Yves though.
@dami8851
@dami8851 3 жыл бұрын
definitely
@svnnyday
@svnnyday 3 жыл бұрын
About the Yeojin subunit thing- I believe it's been stated that she represents the / in Loona 1/3 ?? So maybe she's like,,, stuck in between subunit worlds
@biazacha
@biazacha 3 жыл бұрын
First everybody said Olivia killed Vivi, after that Yves killed Vivi and that's why Olivia didn't want to join her and now Jinsoul killed Vivi by convincing Olivia to do so... y'all really wanting Vivi to be dead in the lore damn.
@KGibbs-pe4ed
@KGibbs-pe4ed 3 жыл бұрын
wait am i dumb i thought that vivi dying in some fashion was canon (as far as anything loonaverse can be canon lol) ? bc of her being resurrected as an android and having past memories of a human life as played out in edily it just wasnt clear how, when, why or who did it
@jame7093
@jame7093 3 жыл бұрын
I feel you could ask 5 different orbits and they would all tell you a different member killed Vivi
@hyesouls
@hyesouls 3 жыл бұрын
i really think that olivia and jinsoul have a connection that wasn't very explained in the mvs...
@agustinvargas1481
@agustinvargas1481 3 жыл бұрын
I think in Why Not? Some girls are indeed using Kim Lip's power, as we can see her being surrounded by moons, meaning the girls may have access to them. And I think this comes from the scenes with red lighting (Same as in eclipse, with Kim lip's color). In Vivi's scene we can see the cars produce red light (meaning they are the machines to time travel) and when Vivi use them to find Yves shes not there. In Jinsoul scene theres red lighting too and the rain can be seen floating (time stop) just like in Yeojin scene items are stop mid air too, while being at the same marketplace than Olivia, Yves, Chuu and Choerry, but since shes in a different time, she doesnt meet them (just like happend with Vivi and Yves)
@aliciaabdullah
@aliciaabdullah 3 жыл бұрын
yo what was jinsoul doing in vivi's letter to hong kong?
@shrutis
@shrutis 3 жыл бұрын
in every day I need you, we see vivi roaming Hong Kong wearing lippie's red dress of oec and Jinsoul was maybe trying to find lippie but she got confused between vivi and Lippi hence she's in the video too
@choerim8986
@choerim8986 3 жыл бұрын
My question is this - who do you think might be responsible for turning Vivi into an android and why did they do this? I keep thinking about the fact that the way for her to turn back into a human was literally just to unplug herself and run, like there's a human turned into a robot there but there's no huge conspiracy around it, we all just sort of accepted that it happened and then she just turned back, but idk it seems to me that either we haven't yet gotten a crucial piece of information or Vivi just did this to herself
@joshuaaaaa8377
@joshuaaaaa8377 3 жыл бұрын
my theory is that Olivia hye anger version was another version of Jinsoul in a different timeline. the reason why she pulled Jinsoul’s earphone in SCL, and why Jinsoul was trapped in a basement prolly because Olivia Hye was a fallen angel and got trapped in the basement(?) and then Vivi saw her but its Jinsoul she saw (cos its in a different timeline) iono i hope that make sense loll
@rudyrooster125
@rudyrooster125 3 жыл бұрын
At 0:53 in Butterfly MV, while it's HeeJin's part, why do you think JinSoul looks like she's mad at Vivi?(this is part of the choreography as it's the same in other performances) which brings me to ask if you will analyze any choreographies that have lore ouo
@viian385
@viian385 2 жыл бұрын
yeah i'm curious abt that part too 🕴️
@brambillafumagalli7652
@brambillafumagalli7652 3 жыл бұрын
Finally thank you for explaining the basement thing! I'm new orbit and as you can imagine is really difficult to understand the loonaverse, I watched so many video theories about it and when I started to understand I began seing people throwing this famous basement out of nowhere and I couldn't understand what they were talking about because to me it didn't make sense at all, but finally I found an explanation thank you so much again
@k-orbit6952
@k-orbit6952 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda disagree about the earphones part to where her odd eye spirit tries to communicate the real jinsoul, i don't know if its just me but i think i saw a photo of that scene to where jinsoul was whispering in olivia hye's ear. Plus in butterfly era she has a mix of blue and black color in her hair. Egoist and Sweet Crazy love's moon intro are reversed but similar. ( then again if i disagree that doesn't mean i'm right though, this is just my theory 😄 )
@honkhonk1712
@honkhonk1712 3 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: can you keep volume if the bgm a bit low cause it's difficult to hear your voice
@danielterris7680
@danielterris7680 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched all your tales of the loonaverse videos, and I appreciate how you tell the plot in simpler terms so that I can understand it easily. I was wondering what you think of the idea of yyxy being one person and the individual members representing the emotions of that one person? I don't personally believe it as the yyxy girls are still their own seperate characters in the plot, and it would kind of the make the entire overarching story, that 12 girls need to construct the moon, a little confusing if 4 members were just emotions rather than people
@lyorbit.02
@lyorbit.02 3 жыл бұрын
At about 3:22 in the Why Not music video, there's the scene of the shoe stepping in sand in reverse. And in the sand there seems to be an animal footprint. Personally it looks like a bird claw, is this a reference to Haseul?
@lyorbit.02
@lyorbit.02 3 жыл бұрын
This is more of a comment/concern/question? At 0:05 of the Star music video, in the background of the music, it sounds like there is emergency siren sounding. It sounds again when Yves does the wisdom tree choreo. Like the siren sounds both in Voice and Star, do you think this sound relates to the world ending setting in So What and Why Not?
@dianavallecillos6758
@dianavallecillos6758 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question. So in dal segno from yyxy theres some audio at the end of the song that comes from an interview About how lsd affects humans so what does this have to do with yyxy and the loonaverse? and do you think the theory that yyxy is all inside olivia's head is true?
@januarychild6764
@januarychild6764 3 жыл бұрын
I think that the audio in dal segno was talking about drugs like LSD and not about STDs, but my memory is hazy
@dianavallecillos6758
@dianavallecillos6758 3 жыл бұрын
@@januarychild6764 oh yeah lmao
@reiyamazaki7700
@reiyamazaki7700 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Jinsoul isn't a villain, she has like a clone that can take forms of other members too (so like Choerry) and like contacts the OEC to tell them about the New Moon and making it (maybe making the new moon is destroying the world) . if the destroying the world part is true then maybe next they'll try to Turn Back Time and then fix everything or smthn
@EnvironmentSaver712
@EnvironmentSaver712 3 жыл бұрын
I think rendezvous18.6y is correlated to Star heavily with the lyrics
@dinosbff5890
@dinosbff5890 3 жыл бұрын
have you ever thought that in why not/so what olivia has connection with cars... and in let me in haseul is in a car that is moving by itself
@angelcwooah6481
@angelcwooah6481 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched all theory videos yet but i also haven't seen this around Yeojin in "Why Not?" is sitting in a shopping cart and surrounded by floating tins, these tins look very similar to the ones Jinsoul was eating the cherries from in Egoist Yeojin got lost in the forest, maybe she was also an eden girl with ViVi and Hasuel.... maybe they rescued Yeojin but Hasuel disappeared into the forest before the run in High High as a punishment With this said, maybe she is looking for cherries to find Hasuel... also in "Why Not?", she is dancing with ViVi, Go Won (Hasuel's mirror), and Hyunjin who has a connection to Choerry... could all be related to how they get Hasuel back
@clairdeloona7411
@clairdeloona7411 3 жыл бұрын
Why in the world do odd eyes even exist?
@seqshor
@seqshor 3 жыл бұрын
Me and my friend,we have a theory that Hyejoo wanted to kill vivi,but she convinced Jinsoul to do that instead,i don’t remember why lmao but that our theory
@hyesouls
@hyesouls 3 жыл бұрын
i am that friend lmao 🙇‍♀️
@seqshor
@seqshor 3 жыл бұрын
@@hyesouls yup lol
@thatchillingeffect
@thatchillingeffect 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know about any basements, but Jinsoul was in Hong Kong for ViVi’s EINY video and that was before Eclipse was released, so at least that makes sense
@MrDupligon
@MrDupligon 3 жыл бұрын
Question: How are Haseul, Choerry and Gowon connected? I feel like there must be some sort of connection because if you look at the individual teaser pictures for Butterfly only those 3 had a different (warm) lighting Also those three are each the third of the group And Haseuls and choerrys colors (green and purple) are both combination of the primary color. The Third one is yellow which is hyunjins color. And hyunjin is the counter part of Gowon Lastly Choerry, Haseul and gowon definitely have a Doppelgänger (Let me in, Girl Front, Teaser XIIX) I feel like if haseul didn’t go into hiatus this might have been explored more
@noelleplaingue9069
@noelleplaingue9069 3 жыл бұрын
idk abt choerry but haseul created gowon cs theyre both shades of green
@N0tC3r1na
@N0tC3r1na 3 жыл бұрын
This is gonna sound crazy but I think that the events of heart attack really happened and chuu died. I think haseul found her and brought her to vivi to heal her? I also think that hyewon is cannon (I mostly think this because rosy)
@awesomality2
@awesomality2 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! They're so funny esp this with the numbers and the one whr you disproved your own theory XD Keep up the good work :) Also, I have a question! Wondering what you think of the #1 teaser or butterfly? Don't think you covered it in your complete story series. Thanks! 😊
@abitclosertoheaven5659
@abitclosertoheaven5659 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think that Heejin and Hyunjin are in a “canonical” relationship? If Hyunjin is Choerry’s opposite, could Hyunjin travel through the Möbius strip? And if Gowon, Chuu, and Yves were all in the building with Olivia Hye in Egoist, do you think they’d be “fallen angels” (ex Lucifer? I’m not Christian nor know if I’m correct)?
@doloresily
@doloresily 3 жыл бұрын
i actually have a theory. I've seen some people ignoring/denying the teory that claims that Olivia Hye may be an adopted member of OEC, i think the videos and cinematography of all the loona mv's talk for themselves and New, Heart Attack and One and Only have a VERY different style from Egoist, besides the fact that the odd eye girls are with her in Hi High and in some other choreographies, also Egoist is the only YYXY girl mv that shows shots of her representative animal as we see in the odd eye circle girls mv with the owl, the bat and the fish, also the choreography with the white background and some solid color lighting is there (as in Eclipse, Singing in the Rain and Love Cherry Motion) but isn't in any other yyxy members mv
@genielafrance
@genielafrance 2 жыл бұрын
I do believe that the fact of bbc not letting Yeojin be part of 1/3 was because of her being too young/having to attend school. And I also think the scene where Yeojin is dressed as a school girl and throws her backpack in So What has something to do with that fact.
@bbueno2009
@bbueno2009 2 жыл бұрын
that moment when they r both ur ult. biases in LOONA 👀
@Will-tc8ux
@Will-tc8ux 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any way JinSoul could somehow shapeshift into Yeojin? I got the idea from the Colors choreography when YeoJin and JinSoul switch places kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oNScbMmc3JPelGw.html. It would make sense for the Hi High music video and why we don't see JinSoul with any of the 1/3 girls, and in Love Cherry Motion she could have been pretending to be YeoJin just to make sure Choerry did eat the cherry, and YeoJin wears blue in the So What mv.
@IrmaGonzalez
@IrmaGonzalez 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos :) thanks for your hard work!!
@awesomality2
@awesomality2 3 жыл бұрын
Have you checked out Loominosity's youtube channel? I feel like they are pretty thorough and basically describe observations made from any official posts made by bbc like mvs, descriptions, IG posts, posts by digipedi, teasers, etc. relating to specific eras (without speculation or making theories of their own) so it would be nice to see if these observations fit with your theories :)
@tedc4258
@tedc4258 3 жыл бұрын
lol but why is Vivi dead on the floor at the end of the New MV
@ludalee9443
@ludalee9443 3 жыл бұрын
69 nice lmao
@poing_poing
@poing_poing 3 жыл бұрын
Actually 69.6 kinda feels like a reference to the nature of the sub-units - 1/3rd and YYXY are similar yet different, and OEC is the flip side 👁🐽👁 but 69 lol
@brimunoz4629
@brimunoz4629 3 жыл бұрын
I’m curious I’ve watched your videos and how OEC girls convinced Olivia Hye to go back with the yyxy girls and her anger turned into love and what not. So is like PTT the girls making the new moon and completing it right? If I’m wrong correct me 😅 Do you think Olivia’s anger could’ve came back in PTT because there is her wolf that came back in Why Not mv and she’s wearing the accessory resembling a wolf in PTT
@justiceramphetu1975
@justiceramphetu1975 2 жыл бұрын
How could you, Jung Jinsoul! You killed Viví!
@Carlo-gf4gr
@Carlo-gf4gr 3 жыл бұрын
what do you think about the pink headphones in the carol?
@cleo5209
@cleo5209 3 жыл бұрын
6:49 to make it easier,Yves met Choerry and gave her an apple to give to Chuu and Go Won,that's why she appeared in Heart Attack and One and Only,but if u notice in Yves New mv,she was by the claw machine,she's seen taking a penguin(Chuu's animal) but when she tried to take the wolf,it dropped that's why in Egoist,we can see a scene where Olivia Hye is underneath a claw,so that means Yves let go of Olivia Hye that's why she wasn't invited with the rest of yyxy members when they escaped from Eden,ur welcome
@cleo5209
@cleo5209 3 жыл бұрын
And for Star (Olivia and Heejin had similar scene of them laying down on a bed)Yves actually let go of Heejin just like what she did to Olivia,similar scenes include,Heejin and Olivia waking up from(actually falling on to the bed because Yves let go of them),the hands scene(Yves letting them both go),them meeting each other again (end of Egoist and somewhere in Star)
@adelinealdercy1195
@adelinealdercy1195 3 жыл бұрын
There was a voting in Facebook for LOONA 1/3. Vivi's poster was the only thing we knew about her and I voted for her.
@yuratchkaplisetskys3063
@yuratchkaplisetskys3063 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but that's impossible. The poster you're referring to is ViVi's reveal image. And that image is the same one where she was listed as the final member of LOONA 1/3. facebook.com/loonatheworld/posts/378230622554469
@tasmiyahchoonara9989
@tasmiyahchoonara9989 3 жыл бұрын
if you look closely, at the beginning of the Heart Attack MV there’s a clock which hits 12:00, do you think it has anything to do with LOONA’s most recent album?? (sorry if this doesn’t make sense)
@kaylactic
@kaylactic 3 жыл бұрын
It actually displays "10:00", which is clearly a reference of Chuu's number
@camilawilkerman1859
@camilawilkerman1859 3 жыл бұрын
THE 69,6 GIRL LOVE YOUUUU
@bee-kf5jd
@bee-kf5jd 3 жыл бұрын
watching Star MV and noticed something. we've been seeing a lot of the flipped girls, so it makes me wonder. at 1:28 it has a series of cuts that go from Heejin and Olivia Hye to... Kim Lip and Jinsoul. Heejin and Hyejoo being the first and last, the two "end" of the list, would make Kim Lip and Jinsoul (6th and 7th) the "middle" ones (last of the first six and first of the las six). could it mean something?
@linifiles
@linifiles 3 жыл бұрын
(In the lore) LMAO
@Hidye1
@Hidye1 3 жыл бұрын
I thought I should preference it lmao
@anubhav9868
@anubhav9868 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hidye1 Is Vivi killed in the lore??
@kazuheehee
@kazuheehee Жыл бұрын
Rain 51db and Rendezvous 18.6y are only songs with numbers in them love4eva : 👁️👄👁️
@generalkentuckygk4259
@generalkentuckygk4259 3 жыл бұрын
69.6 NICEEEEE thats what made me sub
@lunacxx1330
@lunacxx1330 3 жыл бұрын
My question is, how is Gowon connected to Hyunjin? Haseul/Yeojin is matched with Chuu, Vivi with Yves and Heejin with Olivia Hye but we never see how Gowon connects to Hyunjin? Do you know how? Is it through the connection of Choerry?
@alesaliz
@alesaliz 3 жыл бұрын
Gowon was the one that made the bracelet Hyunjin found at her door in Around you (Gowon gave it to a cat which took it to Hyunjin). Also gowon is seen dancing in yellow smoke in Hi High, and wearing a yellow dress in So what, but idk about that.
@wewb2333
@wewb2333 3 жыл бұрын
yo why did reading that thumbnail+title scare tf outta me at 11:50PM
@fedesanchez4303
@fedesanchez4303 3 жыл бұрын
no se ingles pero todo si
@wei4294
@wei4294 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question, how exactly did Choerry use her ODD EYE powers? How did she help the girls with it? (Also, her powers are dimensional travels through mirrors, right?)
@motomaamii
@motomaamii 3 жыл бұрын
not a loonaverse expert and idk if this will answer ur first question but every time she eats a cherry she activates her powers so im guessing she ate cherries n then met up with yves in Eden ! (-:
@wei4294
@wei4294 3 жыл бұрын
@@motomaamii i see, this helps very much! Thank you! I'm gonna have to analyze their powers more xD
@divaselviana9425
@divaselviana9425 Жыл бұрын
😘
@Vivi-Core
@Vivi-Core 4 ай бұрын
Hello I am from the future and ur theory is right😂
@cintia4eva816
@cintia4eva816 3 жыл бұрын
Is it true that Hyunjin is the only member who always have a partner or double when she appears, as shown in almost all of the LOONA mvs, and also, is it true that she belonged to the ODD EYE CIRCLE universe as an ODD EYE?
@ANGEL-fq6gp
@ANGEL-fq6gp 3 жыл бұрын
Why is everyone killing vivi ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
@Lukas-jq4vw
@Lukas-jq4vw 3 жыл бұрын
Vivi was unplugged :(
@loonaorbit8723
@loonaorbit8723 3 жыл бұрын
Why Olivia's wolf killed her and Jinsoul's special animal😭😭😭😭
@yaoyi05
@yaoyi05 3 жыл бұрын
wait... i cant disagree with the comment said that jinsoul is evil, cuz the background with chinese character is 'fallen/depraved angel' damnnnnn(just comment while watching video xd
@707_Jesse
@707_Jesse 3 жыл бұрын
if heejin is the goddess in loonaverse then who is the blondie in yyxy, is heejin god of the loonaverse while that blondie is god itself. also is the loonaverse disassociated from the real world and why only women exist in the loonaverse such a universe cannot exit tbh unless the loonaverse dwellers do mitosis tbh also why isnt hyunjin not part of oec anymore , why is yeojin beginning logo blue and yellow and haseul's red and yellow they arent their representativew color , lastly if chuu and yves are adam and eve who does olivia and gowon represent
@j.ypancake7079
@j.ypancake7079 3 жыл бұрын
The thing I confusing before your video is ,how can a fish kill a deer
@bread_.bandith
@bread_.bandith 3 жыл бұрын
3:52 Thank me later
@unknownlow1977
@unknownlow1977 3 жыл бұрын
I have a questions both from the Why Not mv Is the burning moon technically a sun? Because it really does look like a sun. (I'm sorry because it really looks like a sun) Is the moon at the ending of the mv represents Haseul? The scene with Hyunjin with her missing shoe. (I'm not really sure whose moon is that?) But pls answer my questions.😅😅
@joshuakristopherpanganiban5474
@joshuakristopherpanganiban5474 3 жыл бұрын
I think olivia hye killed vivi because there's a deer on the mv
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