Danny was actually memorable, played a integral part in the Celtics championships and was good at the game.

Ainge was an athlete. Could have been drafted into MLB.

@@jaesonburd7165 Yup. Ainge is still the only high school guy to be 1st team All-American in football, basketball, and baseball in the same year.

He was better than Danny Ainge lmfao

Ainge was a 3 sport all American. He could live played in the nfl or mlb. JJ could’ve only played basketball or work at Sears.

%100 correct... and Mr. Riley would know!

"When Pat took someone else other than me to shoot to save his life, it became personal to me." Michael Jordan with 99.99999999999999999% certainty.

Nice

That makes no sense.

😂😂😂 that is really good by Riley

Savage

First three point contest.

Keep that in mind.

51% higher than the league average? Firstly learn how percentages work. Curry wasn’t 28% higher than the league average and Bird definitely was 51% higher than the league average. Also JJ literally says in the video that Larry is one of the greatest shooters ever. Just he isn’t the greatest THREE POINT SHOOTER. I swear to god. None of these comments and no one in this video actually listened to what JJ said.

@@OldBenKenobi2318 He's using %s to compare with percentages. He's saying the league average was 35.47 whereas Curry was at 45.4 which is 28% higher than 35.47. Whereas during Bird's season of 42.3, the league average was 28.01, so Bird's number is 51% higher than the average. Technically they're both percentages, so it's not really difficult to figure out what he meant. The point is the same, Larry was better than league average by a bigger margin than Curry was better than league average.

@@t.yop9 That's like saying a 10 year old taking a calculus test was 50% better than other 10 year olds is better at math than the 20 year old who was 5% better than other 20 year olds. The comparative difference is irrelevant if the standard is "greatest of all time." The only metrics that count are volume of shots, percentage made, and location of the 3-point line. Anyone who is arguing Curry is not currently the greatest 3-point shooter of all time is...there's no point debating those people.

@@OldBenKenobi2318JJ said Bird is not one of greatest three point shooters ever which he was

@@icekyuuno it not the same. They are compared against the same not against 10y old or 20 y old. They are compared against the average of the NBA which forms. Benchmark of comparison. There is inflation in all numbers. The baencmark reduces the ilpact of inflation. And by the way the percentages are complete bogus they are not the point of great player. Percentages are omitting most important info of shooting. Bird is the greatest 3 point shooter in NBA history and in Europe greatest 3 point shooter in history is Spanoulis. Percentages not required it is the shots that are required. The times the shots changed stuff. Percentages are crap metric and NBA and US have gotten obsessed with them although they have alot of stuff omitted. And then players chace these numbers which are empty and vacant. Doncic scored 73 and only 15 - 20 points were hard ith most poijts ludicrously easy and uninetersting without defence or withiut any obstacle withij the rim. An uninteresting vacant 73 points except for 15-18 true hard points. This was more like 35 point game. But prople check bacantly the gross inaccurate metrics which dont say much.

I think it's calculated. Being sensible/logical doesn't make you any money in his profession. It has to be self promotion, doesn't it? Surely he can't believe that.

And it shows how outta touch he really is Larry bird was Greatness. JJ reddi sucked in basketball.

Agreed 💯

In the 80s, Reddick would have spent 2 hours with the trainer getting the pine splinters dug out of his ass. He would have had a 2-3 year career had he Played in the 80s

What in the heck are they teaching at Duke?

I'd love to know when there was a fight in this NBA lately...Back in the 80s and 90s it occured a lot ... Now these guys don't need to fight cause there is no phisicallaty no D who you gonna fight when you can score at will...NBA is weak... Let's bring back the real NBA with some Defense Show some Kahones NBA...

He definitely was telling the truth (Michael Cooper that is)

If we look at JJ Reddicks career l am sure some of his so-called plumbers and firemen had better careers. He was an NBA mediocrity.

15 seasons and ONE compĺete 82 game season. Bird played 4 or 5 complete seasons. But yeah. No difference in "physicality". You could only finish ONE SEASON IN THE "MODERN ERA" REDDICK. YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT PHYSICALITY BECAUSE YOU ONLY PHYSICALLY FINISHED ONE SEASON!

Wearing a full torso back brace he shot a 47 point game. The man was superhuman! NO ONE in today's NBA would even consider playing a game in that condition. Even if by some miracle one was willing to do so, there's no way in hell they'd get 47 points! They just don't make them like that anymore.

He played through a injury that would have retired any other player! He was old school tough on a level that hasn't been seen in a long time!

Played in the garden where bobby Orr played it must have rubbed off

Playing while injured does not make u tough , it makes u stupid and that’s why birds career ended abruptly.

you don't remember when isaiah thomas came back to play in 1 leg after injuring really bad and he took over and won that game that was unbelievable and don't forget kobe bryant too but i agreed with you about larry bird he was really special. Greetings

Some players were tougher. And players generally preferred tough play. Because in pre three point era they were used to the cramming of space.

His comment is moronic and let there be a debate about it.

Only whites do that lol Larry bird is the Eminem ones of the nba he gets credit just for being white

Redick is what is called an articulate idiot. The guy is as dumb as a dog. Unfortunately, the general public is dumber and some are the same but cannot mount an argument against JJ. I'm sure JJ's IQ is less than 90.

He should be working for Fox.

​@@wasteofspace20any mainstream news outlet

Trouble is, Mr Bird is incomparable.

@@RemoWilliams1227 No trouble. If the three pt shot was required, Bird would have honed in "all net" mode like he did to win 3pete 3pt contest. In other words, Nobody compares to Legendary Larry. Keep in mind, Larry had to make adjustments to his game his entire career. Including ending 5 years without a back. Again Larry put out above average numbers to the end. The End

@@andybilakshow260 yessir

Perfect comment! There is no better shooter with the game on the line than Bird....from inside the arc, outside the arc, and the free throw line.

Bird trained for hours and hours on his shooting. I'm sure if the 3 point became relevant he would have honed his skills :)

What does "storm" cold mean? Lol

Right like bro we’ve seen the footage. Bird damn near dropped a mf with a right and didn’t even get ejected let alone suspended for 50 games lol. 80s was different

You spelled "wrong" wrong.

yeah, all the effort it takes to move to the side and allow people to dunk is real physical.

Not for nothing, Draymond dropped Jordan Poole and didn't get much for it. GS front office was channeling the 80s. If Green tried that with Shaq he'd be a corpse.@@K1Kamikaze

It’s not wild… it’s stupid

Bird played 74 games and averaged 1.2 makes (in '87/'88)? That's a total of 110/111 makes? That's not bolstering an argument for Top 5!!

You missed the point. The best shooters of the 70's and 80's would be just as good as the shooters now. If they played now they would practice shooting it all the time. Also, if today's shooters played back in those era's they would not shoot as well because of not shooting it as much in practice. Some of them wouldn't even make it to the NBA. Like JJ

@@Paul15. I missed the point because it's NOT a point! On what other occasion have we looked at stats and bent logic to agree that someone COULD and WOULD have done something different? I can't give you "credit" for doing something which you didn't actually do! Roberto Clemente died having amassed EXACTLY 3,000 hits... If he had finished with 2,999, as sad as circumstances were, I couldn't give him credit for another hit (which he hadn't actually earned) no matter how much I might believe in him... Every action you take prevents you from expending that same time on another activity... If the great shooters of the '80s and '90s paid more attention to three-point shooting, then they would be taking time from practicing another part of their game... These events and proposed changes don't occur in a vacuum... So, even "if" they made themselves better shooters by practicing, some other activity is likely to suffer because it would be practiced less as a result...

That’s like comparing QBs today who all throw for 4000 yards and saying they’re better than Joe Montana’s/Aikman/ etc. the game is different, the rules are different. Bird didn’t play in an era where they shot nothing but 3 pointers.. doesn’t mean he isn’t one of the best.

@@TheVlad1616 Two things wrong with your comment... It's off-base AND not relevant... First... Redick stated that Bird WASN'T Top 5 in 3-point shooting... This is NOT an insult!! You CAN be great without being Top 5!! The point which folks are arguing, vehemently, is that Bird has been disrespected and is (like) Top 3, I guess... Second? I turn your attention to Home Run Baker... Before Babe Ruth, he led the Leagues in HRs for several years and won three or four consecutive MVPs... His greatest HR total was (trumpets, please) only 12!!!! Oddly enough, that's not even a Baker's Dozen!! NOBODY ever discusses him as one of the best (at anything) ever!!

Exactly! Paxson and Kerr meant nothing for the Bulls in the 90s.

@@Rimpianto what is that supposed to mean? are you being sarcastic?

Ya boy still sizzling to this day.

damnit i love bird😂

They laughed at bird too lol but yeah reddick ain’t that guy

You are right. Bird would score 40 points and make it look easy. Defenders had to play him honest.

He is a moron, 1000%, Bird destroyed Jordan, Reddick couldn't tote his fucking luggage

@@John_Malloy True, what are they going to do, double him? Oh that's right his other divinely inspired skill is passing.....

You can say that about ALL great players with the difference being Bird could not stop anyone and did not earn any defensive achievements.

Larry Bird is ranked 36 in scoring 45 in assists and and a very embarrassing 62 in rebounds so quit it.

You just made Reddicks point.

@@craigbromiley7837 not really. Players in the 80s actually shot the 3 extremely well considering that. Attempted way less but made shots when they needed to without the benefits plyers have today. The different factors from different eras actually means they are incomparable because of it. And you or JJ cannot truly say who was better.

@@craigbromiley7837 And your comment is pointless, only proves you’re about as ignorant as JJ.

@@craigbromiley7837 your IQ probably below 60. Check it out. Maybe ur kids as well.

You don't include players to be one of the greatest 3pt shooters ever just because they don't have the benefit of practicing too many 3pt shots..

Danny was not really that good so this is a great insult. Yes I am old enough to have watched him play on TV.

bars😂

​@drwatsonca6945 I watched Ainge play too, and he was a lot better than Reddic. Hell, Ainge was an All Star. Not only was he much better off the dribble and a better defender than JJ, but he also was quicker than him as well...

When Cooper first heard that, he was almost speechless he was so touched and honored. High praise from Bird

And that statement is relevant to the conversation because...?

​@@notoriousbid3169 I think he said Reddick is anidiot.

He would lock jj down an out him on bench😂😂😂😂😂

Well no shit. There is not a glimpse of comparison.

It's true! I myself witnessed Isiah and Bill leading sing alongs of kumbaya with the opposing Celtics and Bulls while Bill Mahorn was doing sensitivity training sessions with other players! 🤣🤣🤣

Ya. When Larry hurt his back one game Lambert messaged it and helped him get up. A very sweet man.

Ya. When Larry hurt his back one game Lambert messaged it and helped him get up. A very sweet man.

Add Mahorn and Rodman to that list.

I'll never forget Laimbeer's gentle nature and his love for warm hugs. They called him Olaf for a reason!

Bingo

J.J couldn't guard his shadow and he only lasted as long as he did because a WHITE BOY who could shoot 3s

They're just arguing about threes though. Bird isn't even close to the best

@@tugboat6940 Bird is one of the smartest and toughest player in this game, if he was playing today he will be smart enough to be on the top 5. coz the player today learn from the past that's why they are better player, if they play in the past the new player will they be as good as today if they didn't have somebody to copy they will not be beter if they play with the time this player play. Even Kobe said I copy all my moves on M Jordan

@@roddizon2242 so we're just gonna call him the greatest shooter of all time because he maybe, possibly would be have been a better shooter had he played today? Really?

@@tugboat6940 No sir, Basketball is always revolving, you cannot say Bird or Curry as the best shooter of all times, cause basketball is still growing and improving. Smart player will always find a way to the top and will find weakness in other players or team, We are human beings that always trying to improve a swimmer or runner record doesn't last , it is also the same in basketball.

Laimbeer had it coming and the refs knew it...

🎯

Refs were men then!

THAT was REAL Basketball!!!!

@@jxm1677 Not a single person felt bad for Laimbeer, probably not even Bill himself. I wonder how many of today's superstars would even survive a single game against him and the Bad Boys. Not literally die, but retire from the game shortly after, or fake injuries quick every following year they went up against them.

Only temporarily. Right?

Yeah it was temporary

And it was during those two years when the line was moved closer that MJ made the majority of his 3 pointers. If you remove MJ's 3 point shooting stats for those 2 years the line was moved closer, you would clearly see that Kobe is the better 3 point shooter. But since most don't realize this, people get the impression MJ and Kobe shot the 3 pointer at a very similar efficiency when they compare their career 3 point percentages.

​@@paperlpyall haters so funny he set the record in 92 for threes in a half dummy

@@paperlpKobe had a worse shot selection and took too many tough shots, that’s why his efficiency was garbage compared to MJ’s

💯. I loved basketball as kid in mj area. Tolerated the early 2000,s. Can't remember now how many yes since wat he'd a game😂 . Trash 😂

I agree completely. The NBA today is soft. These guys would never have been able to compete against Larry Legend or say, Bill Laimbeer. They'd get eaten alive.

Your loss. Playoffs have been great so far

Hate to say it but I agree I stopped watching in the 2000s just seemed to keep getting softer and softer. Only thing missing in 2023 are dresses.

@@Physics072 so you haven't watched the NBA in like 20 years? How the fuck would you know what the game looks like right now?

Just because he was bored 😂

Didn’t he also say he was saving his right hand for the Lakers? Haha Larry Bird was an amazing player and funny as hell.

@@Justmemyguy haha Larry is a Legend

Basketball is the only sport where people actively hate the OG Legends. In futbol we respect Ronaldinho, Maldini, Zidane. In boxing we respect Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard. In tennis we respect Sampras and Agassi. We recognize that we are standing in the shoulders of giants.

He also started his Celtics career with a severe hand injury from softball that permanently weakened his feel with the basketball. Had he not gotten injured he'd have been even BETTER.

He was wrong about jj being a poor man’s Danny ainge jj one of the best three pt shooters ever an he could shoot on the move

@@tyrellwilliams317 he didn’t make shots when they mattered, and honestly a very poor player in all other regards. Defensively, pure garbage.

I love how newer age guys take ONE shot at 80s 90s eras and they’re all up in arms as if they don’t constantly bitch and moan about todays game. Young people will trash their era because they are fuckin annoying

@@jschapp77you talking JJ or Cooper?

@@michaelshannon3019yes

"I used to spar around a lot in the joint. It was just me and a bunch of the brothers. By the time I got out of there, they all had respect for me, Charlie. Of course, got my nose broken 3 times in 3 years. What the hell, a broken nose ain't gonna kill you." --Ray Sinclair

A well deserved hit.

What credibility? Cooper got it right; in the 1980's, Reddick never would have left the bench because he would never been able to get his shot off

What credibility? He's a woke clown.

What credibility,lol?

That's the problem. He didn't have high-level credibility as a player and is trying to get it at the desk. Maybe he's trying too hard.

@Joey Tatum I like Dame, but he has never won a championship. He doesn't belong in this argument. Most people who listen to j.j. Redick aren't old enough to have seen Larry Bird clutch play win championships games

@@denday4511a championship cant be the dertermining factor cuz larry played with a team full of hall of famers

jesus..... "dame" .. lol

Also if Bird played in this era he'd been better. Larry would've shot more 3s and now you can't even breathe on someone without a whistle

MILLER AND BIRD THEY HIT THOSE 3'S WHEN U GETTING CLOSE OR U NEED TO GET CLOSER TO LEADING TEAM WHO TRY TO MAKE A RUN. OPPOSITE OF JHJ REDICK WHO CANT SHOOT WITHOUT SCREEN AND USUALLY MISS MOST MATTER SHOOTS AND LAST BUZZER BEATERS TOO,

You from Boston?? ja

We'll said. Most clutch player ever.

Reddick and Perk have to go. Larry freakin Bird Really.

@@wilfredoramirez728 You don't have to be from Boston or white to know Bird Demolished everyone

Redick knows it too. But he's being paid~!

Agreed. Any self respecting sports show should not bring him on their show.

He got it alright, but I wouldn't want that kind of attention.

Truth hurts

Not trying. He did a GREAT job getting attention of the name of all time legends.

OMG Larry would kill them.

@@Physics072 they don't understand lol

He’s averaging 30

@@jjnthegoat2200 Closing in on 40 i'd say if he wasn't such a teamplayer. He'd probably average triple double numbers...

Look at what Luka is doing and tell me Larry wouldn't be dominating this league.

No he wouldn’t he would get fouled out

he would prob average like 12 bro

Lol ok kids time to go to bed. probably havent see any old game online at least .. He was a great shooter whether guarded or not, he would probably would score more due todays crappy defense lol Change your diaper kids

@@Srt3D01-db-01 I’ve seen over 100 full bird games, his jumper is beyond slow for todays game and he would not be able to create his own shot against defenders today.

Synthetic grass..."2030 weed".

Also remember that the 3-point shootout in the 80s didn’t have 2-pointer balls in every rack. So Bird’s total would actually be higher if he competed today. Bird’s score of 24 would probably be 28 today and it would beat 99% of 3-point competitors today.

Those games were unwatchable that's why they changed the rules. If I'm more skilled than you the only way for you to compete is to muck up the game.

They changed the rules - in particular enforcing hand checking - to make it easier for perimeter players to score. They wanted to give teams with top perimeter players a better chance to compete against a team with top big men. The first 3-peat Bulls were the only dynasty without a top big man, and ratings hit record highs during the 90s. Rating dropped during the early 2000s as Shaq, Duncan, etc were dominating the league. They figured out it was more exciting to watch perimeter players dominate than big men, which allowed perimeter players to shoot 3s unobstructed. Perimeter players TS% immediately jumped in 2004-2005, then teams slowly figured out how to fully take advantage of the new rules.

He was a scrub who never made an all star game or a all NBA team even with the rule changes, REALITY

@@joek5078 I could see that. Me personally, I enjoy watching clips of the 2000’s game (Shaq and Duncan are two of my favorite players actually), but I could see why some would call it less entertaining as other eras. One other thing that hurt the 00’s as far as popularity goes: A lot of the best playoff series in those years were arguably in the conference finals or second round rather than the finals themselves.

Now it's more about the players personal feelings than what's good for the team, they should get paid by the game that way they won't sit out half the season if they catch a cold.

I don't think the league is good. It's filled with political nonsense, players who have no loyalty, players that need time off etc. Etc. Ask Jordan, Bird, Magic, West, Willis Reed and the former greats to take a rest day, they'll tell you to go stick it

The thing I dislike most in today’s game is the phantom fouls. There’s been countless times the defender didn’t even touch the ball handler and he gets called for a foul. So many times I had a confused face with my jaw wide open.

In the past 50 years, here are the highest Total Career Avg Stat Points (PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK) #1) Jordan = 44.7 #2) LeBron = 44.4 #3) Bird = 43.1 #4) Kareem = 42.9 Curry is #31 with 37.5 That's just to put things into to perspective

@@TomCruz54321 and flopping....jeez the flopping is out of control somtimes

A 3-point contest (where there's no defense) on one day per season proves NOTHING... Except, I can make 3-point shots (better than you) when I'm in a non-game situation where I may shoot repeatedly...

Exactly, I showed my dad (77) the clip of JJ arguing and he said "see that's why I don't want watch that type of shit" right again Pop.

He has a career waiting for him on Fox News.

@@julianmarsh8384 oof

@@julianmarsh8384 What are you talking about? He is a typical ESPN talking head entirely.

you mean a human with an opinion? who would have thought!

Best way to explain it right there.

This applies for most of the elite Shooters of that day who could create their own shot. The defence being so spread out would have been a dream for players like Bird, Alex English, and Jordan

Don't forget the 76ers, the Knicks, the Bulls, the Rockets, the Trailblazers, the Bucks when talking about physical, hard-nosed assault and battery with attempted rape as defense

I so wish we could see that!!! Lol

I wish I could watch old Detroit play every team in the current nba.

Even the Knicks...

Lol and what would they do to him when curry just isos and shoots a 3

Best insight thus far.

That's about the only good thing you can say about Reddick,that he was kind of sort of someone in college and a giant nothing in the pros.

JJ is being controversial to stay employed. But his nonsensical comments makes you realize that his basketball IQ is at a moronic level. What does his basketball career look like, repeating what Jerry West said about him? He was a mediocre player and did not win anything worth mentioning in his NBA career.

@@AbeJayPee494 He didn't do anything noteworthy when he was in the NBA.Michael Cooper and Dominique Wilkins have already called him an arrogant fool and they're both right.

I think he knows what he's doing and it's working.

Good point, but you forgot the biggest difference. In the 80's NBA players flied commercial airlines in coach! Think about that for a minute. 7 footers cramming into coach seats on Delta and then having to sign autographs walking all the way to baggage claim. Now these pampered pukes have their own private planes and limos but can't play in half their games because of "load management". In the 80's superstars played EVERY night unless they had a damn broken leg. The NBA of those days was men made of Iron. The current NBA product is garbage, I never even watch it anymore.

⁠​⁠@Joey Tatum I’m not an NBA fan (I prefer watching the NFL) ,I check in from time to time to see what’s up but that’s it. But every time I check in, NBA fans are not chill at all. So that’s a lie.

,,,no defense...

Agreed. No one shot threes at a high output in the 80's NBA because it was just a completely different league. JJ makes his argument waving around the stats, but not the context by design. This is coming from an almost strictly niche, 3 point shooter for his career in Reddick. Basically what he really implied was that HE was a better 3 point shooter than Bird, but used Curry so he didn't look like an asshat.

@@Chrisicola You gave me a great laugh! Thank you!!!

Bird used the three strategically, either to demoralize the other team at strategic moments or to win games at the end. 90% of the time he would get the ball at the end of close games. Today's game is totally different. More wide-open with many good three point shooters.

@@jonathanweiss7716 yup and Curry is lousy at last second game winners..

Shooting a slightly higher % while shooting less than 15% of the amount of shots means nothing.

he had 5 of them

@@sbrooks904 he had 0

In the 2014-2015 season, JJ Reddick shot 51.5% from 2, 43.7% from 3, and 90.1% from the line.

The trouble with 50-40-90 in the modern era, is that guys who take way more threes than past generations have their FG% skewed. See Jose Calderon in 08-09. He shot 49.7-40.6-98.1… but he shot so many threes, that if you take his FG% without the threes, he’d be at 53.8-40.6-98.1.

@@navideliot428 this isn't a true 50/40/90 season. The 50 is overall fg% not 2pt fg%. There have only been like 9 or 10 50/40/90 seasons ever and I think Steve Nash is the only player to do it more than once. I think bird, dirk, a d mark price have done it once

Bill walton championship year, larry bird three year, mj 1987 might be the best basketball ever

Byron Scott thinks Larry is a sprinter compared to Luka. Oh, and Larry would trash talk Redick so bad he would have him crying on the floor. Amd the 3 point like didn't come into being until Larry's rookie season. He didn't have the benefit of shooting 3s growing up like today's players do.

Yeah, just ask Magic. Well Magic is the greatest for supporting Larry. Two equally great individuals.

@@terrenceolivido741 They have great respect for each other. The documentary on both of them is just tremendous. I cannot recommend it highly enough. Just a great documentary.

No one GAVE AN F about 3's then. EVERYONE was focused on establishing dominance in the Post. IF these guys had to play teams from the 80s /90s IT WOULD BE DEATH BY 1000 CUTS. These current Guys have NEVER had to defend Guys at every position that Play the Post like they could.

Never even took off his warm up jacket lmfao.

He had misses. No one has ever done the 3 point contest with no misses.

I love me some Larry Legend but he never had a perfect round in any 3 pt contest warm up jacket or not.

Moron. You're literally making up shit.

You're recounting a myth, not actual facts. It's easy to make someone looks good when you're not talking about the truth