Took me an embarrassingly long time to realise these adapters existed. Bought the one you have here, because it looks the best, but also nice and compact. (Mainly the looks).I use the small cans for long hikes so will now reap the rewards of not having to buy a new small can and the bonus of not seeing 5 cans on near empty kicking around the house. Thanks.
@JayWandersOut Жыл бұрын
Super useful of you want to go out for 2 nights and not carry a full 4oz can with you. Refill just what you will use plus a little more.
@richardglickman72032 жыл бұрын
You can refill the green propane cylinders from the much larger BBQ propane tanks. USA a coupler with a hose because you have to turn the BBQ rank upside down also. Great video! I learned a lot. Thanks
@Saltpork3052 жыл бұрын
I refill the small isobutane canisters once empty with the cheaper larger butane cans. You absolutely need to chill the isobutane canisters and I will only do it once they're empty enough they don't work anymore. You can refill several times on the same little 4-5 dollar canisters but you need to watch the weight as overfilling isn't good. Never go above the initial weight listed on the canister. Normally I do 80% of the default filled weight just to make sure I don't have pressure issues. The nice thing about all of this and why I do it is that if you know you're not going to be below 35F or so, you can refill your hiking or small cookset canister for cheap and it will still work. If you're below about 40F, put the little canister in your pocket or armpit before you use it in the morning. Get it warmed up and it will sputter and cause less issues with the cheaper butane. If you're going out where freezing is a real possibility, these refills(and the original butane cans) simply do not work well. Stick with isobutane or propane depending on if you're carrying that weight or vehicle camping.
@JayWandersOut2 жыл бұрын
Yep, butane has a much higher evaporation point than isobutane so it's horrible in the cold. I do have the adapter to refill camp canisters from the butane but I just using isobutane propane mixes.
@coffeepot31232 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I will purchase a similar adapter in the future so that i can re-use one of my tiny gas canisters (110g) And truth be told, these tiny canisters are pretty cute and tiny!...
@jackdundon22612 жыл бұрын
Refill it with your 5 gallan tank. Be super cheep that way.
@barbarab202 Жыл бұрын
What would be the name of the adapter to use for that?
@JorgeGonzalezC106 ай бұрын
My main reason to refill canisters would be, I can use the smaller isopro canister, refill it with butane, which is cheaper but normally comes in those thinner, taller canisters. And I do believe butane is more widely available.
@koko-rl9zm4 жыл бұрын
Great information! I didn't know there were so many options for fuel and connections.
@JayWandersOut4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's what makes it confusing at first. The simple thing though is that most backpacking stoves will work with a variety of fuels. The different fuels are their purpose in different situations though.
@frankiefourfingers7437 Жыл бұрын
Best video I've seen on this, thanks!
@clarkkent49912 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!!!! Thanks for sharing. Be safe and enjoy!!!!🏆🏆
@Spikestrip553 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay, great information! I refill green propane tanks, and rather than putting them in the freezer, I release pressure by pressing down on the valve in the center of the port. Couldn't you do the same with the canisters by removing the top (full) canister and opening the valve to bleed off some pressure in the lower, allowing more fuel into the space created?
@quinntheeskimooutdoors62343 жыл бұрын
Nice display of options. Thanks and take care.
@kurtsteiner8384 Жыл бұрын
Its the same thing propaine and butaine. Its just marketed differently. Propane is in commercial operations, butane is domestic general use. It not a gas untill its gone through the stoves vortex like a carbeurretor in a car. Until that happens its in liquid form. Colman marke low temperature cylinder but you anly need that at -10 or 20 'C. The do it under the extreame label blue tins.
@JayWandersOut Жыл бұрын
Propane and butane are different chemical compounds with different evaporation temperatures and pressures. You'll see that purely butane canisters are made of much thinner metal than propane only canisters because it has a much much lower PSI. If you try to store pure propane in something meant for a combination mix the pressure could be too much for the canister and cause a failure.
@unpavedexplorer3383 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend, this is some really good information. Take Care and Keep Exploring The Outdoors.
@BigDukeX4 жыл бұрын
Dump all of those tanks Jay. Get a “Flame King 5# Mini” propane tank, $52 at Home Depot. Those green tanks will empty your wallet ($3 plus - per canister)... real fast while car camping. Refill the Flame King at any local gas station or UHaul lot that also sells propane for just about what you pay for one (1) Coleman tank currently. Found that this set up is much, much cheaper than the disposable 16oz tanks. The little Flame King tank is about the size of a 1/2 gallon milk carton, and it stows away easily. Amazon sales this too, Flame King YSN5LB. Tank is sold empty upon purchase. BTW, don’t forget to take Home Depot up on their discount!
@JayWandersOut4 жыл бұрын
I have a 1 gallon one but I never used it. I don't cook super often so over 1.5 months I'm still on the same 1 lb propane tank and on a 2nd butane tank. I use a thermal cooker when I cook so I just need to get the contents to a boil, put it inside the insulated container then wait 2 hours and everything's cooked. I've even used my Solo Titan wood burning stove for longer cook things when it's not windy and there are branches to burn.
@66bigbuds Жыл бұрын
Isobutane has some Isopropyl alcohol as an antifreeze. But yes it does have it's limits.
@danielrudilille3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. There are two downside with this adapter for my case, yhe short knob and the prize of this with shipping cost me 35 dollar.
@banshee1073 жыл бұрын
...$4.56 USD shipped from AliExpress. Never tried it yet though
@michelvillarias2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip Jay.
@Red_Proton2 жыл бұрын
As butane/propane moves out of the tank, it will cool. This happens on BBQ grills with any size tank. So, tank size doesn't matter, where it's moving to doesn't matter, and the temperature of its destination (like another tank) doesn't matter. The fact that it's moving is what causes it to cool. It's not absorbing cold from the other tank.
@jinsjewelry4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great tips! Thank you for sharing :)
@richlovin21732 жыл бұрын
Very useful information. Thanks.
@dennismorton4688 Жыл бұрын
they should have a bleeder like the small propane tanks i fill
@trinovantian13 жыл бұрын
Great advice video.
@jennylievois3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful! Thank you!
@xGorexGirlx4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Jay. I saw Amazon has one with a longer adjustment knob and it has brass threads too
@JayWandersOut4 жыл бұрын
If mine breaks I'll definitely get the one with the longer knob.
@trailgoodsco3 жыл бұрын
Very informative
@robquint75633 жыл бұрын
great vid, helped me a lot.
@JayWandersOut3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it did! They're definitely handy for the right purposes.
@azclaimjumper3 жыл бұрын
$29.95 on Sale on eBay as of today. This is the lowest price ever. And quite likely to be even lower AFTER New Years'.
@AWretchedMan2 жыл бұрын
Lol it says on the jetboil canisters to not refill and to discard them
@JayWandersOut2 жыл бұрын
That's just for liability purposes. You can refill them just not forever.
@jjsambac Жыл бұрын
Learned a lot! Thank you Do you have to wait til the canister is empty before you refill and can you top off? I have an almost empty isobutane canister and would like to refill with butane so I can bring 1 full can of fuel
@JayWandersOut Жыл бұрын
Nope, you don't have to wait. In fact it's better that it is never completely empty so no outside air ever gets in and potentially rust the inside. Always use a kitchen scale to see how much you refill.
@JakeRuby Жыл бұрын
The canister valves are not designed to be used that much. If you do they will eventually fail in the 'open' position and release the remaining contents. Dangerous, and if you lose your fuel out on a trip then that's a bummer.
Great overview but I think your not clear on your gas pressures. You note 858 for propane at 21 C. You don’t show the units you’re talking about although I believe you’re talking kilopascals which no one uses in casual conversation. This definitely is not pounds per square inch for propane at 70°F is ~122 psi. I’ve heard of people using propane 100% in these. So it does sound like the tank can take the pressure if you keep the temperature at a low point And the volume below the standard 80%. I’m not gonna try it though. Thanks for posting. Love the cabinet works on the back of your truck for storage!
@philiptong49783 жыл бұрын
EN417 standard is 13.2 bar at 50C (yes it also mention non-refillable) www.en-standard.eu/bs-en-417-2012-non-refillable-metallic-gas-cartridges-for-liquefied-petroleum-gases-with-or-without-a-valve-for-use-with-portable-appliances-construction-inspection-testing-and-marking/ and vapor pressure www.engineeringtoolbox.com/propane-butane-mix-d_1043.html the 20% space is convention when filling bulk (20lb) propane tank to allow thermal expansion
@yhtay8727 Жыл бұрын
what's the name of camp stove in the video? mind to share the link?
@JayWandersOut Жыл бұрын
They don't sell the exact model anymore but it's almost just like this one: amzn.to/3mkc5Uu I love the flexible pipe so the stove itself stays on the ground. I still use mine all the time but wanted to find a 2nd in case this one fails since I've used it so much.
@zolar1nonassumpsit2192 жыл бұрын
How to tell how much you put in WITHOUT using a scale...?
@JayWandersOut2 жыл бұрын
I have a scale in the car. After a while tou can feel if a canister is empty or near full though.
@victorborgvall31104 жыл бұрын
Do you keep the canisters in the car while parked in the sun during a hot day?
@JayWandersOut4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I have a thermometer in the car that measures max and min so I can see how hot it got while I was away. I keep the back windows cracked with a fan running against it hooked up to a battery bank so it can run all day. I also make every attempt to park in the shade by getting places early then using the Sun Position app to determine the path of the sun. The big thing too is letting your car get as cool as it can overnight so it has that cool thermal mass to keep things cool. My solar charge controller also has a thermometer so I can see what the temperature is like lower in the car. Some would say it's all dangerouns but what else can you do?
@AngelaMartinez-kg8ds Жыл бұрын
Where do u buy that adapter?
@JayWandersOut Жыл бұрын
I bought them at Amazon - amzn.to/2RoysGa
@randysmith64932 жыл бұрын
New to me. I have not tried refilling any of the canisters. But I see Lixada adapter has a gas release button. while the filler and refill canisters are connected, you can press the gas release button to remover the back pressure and then open the value again to get more liquid fuel into the refill. That's a pretty domineering trick to only give your girlfriend enough fuel to get back to you, just kidding. Lixada : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9ZhaZer2ajMpYU.html
@brib97164 жыл бұрын
Great, now it's useless since there will no longer be partially empty canisters left in hiker boxes.
@mzimmerman123 жыл бұрын
Just carry a full canister and take a dump before you go.
@mikelacross Жыл бұрын
Quite a nice video Jay, especially the science about different types of gas, but... Could you get out of the habit of constantly slapping things, it gets pretty annoying. One chap who use to put a lot of great videos out seemed to have a brakedown or something & while reviewing a back pack, he must've slapped it around 200 times & he must've called it a 'bad boy' maybe 100 times. While there's nothing wrong with that, it just gets very tedious to watch, so I gave up watching him, although he did disappear a few months later, so hope he's OK?
@francruz58242 жыл бұрын
Please be concise and decisive. If you’re not sure of the info your giving, don’t even mention it.
@AaronVets5 ай бұрын
🤡🤡🤡
@mustafababdullah24853 жыл бұрын
Really a few onces is going to hamper someone's backpacking i think they need to remove their lazy selves from in front of the TV and stop pretending they are ruffing it 😂 just like the idiots that wont bring a bic and insists on a feral rod, freeze sucker. Ps don't fill a butien tank with prpein the valves are different for a huge reason, want too hurt yourself go ahead try it.
@JayWandersOut3 жыл бұрын
You must have missed the part or not understood when I said not to put propane in a isobutane tank not because of valves, it's the pressure they exert. You should try thru hiking and see if ounces matter or not.
@adventureswithfrodo27213 жыл бұрын
Your giving out contradicting information.
@JayWandersOut3 жыл бұрын
How so? I probably did but just curious which bits conflicted.