Clive James talks to Joan Collins about acting in Star Trek
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@purplesword55366 жыл бұрын
Edith keeler wasn't pro Hitler for God's sake..she was a pacifist and a sort of a futurist..
@ernestleong4762 жыл бұрын
Not only that, both the host and guest got the character name wrong. He called her Ruby Keeler, Joan corrected him and said she was Nance Keeler. Of course, it was Edith!
@catlady83242 жыл бұрын
Of course she was pro Hitler! Liberals love gun confiscation, socialism and dividing the classes and races.
@SCZim Жыл бұрын
I caught the same mistake. I can even hear Spock’s voice in my head, explaining that Edith’s peace talks delayed America’s entry into WW2. This enabled Germany to get the A bomb first, then carry those first bombs with their V2 rockets (which BTW, would be technically impossible).
@dmellis7 ай бұрын
I can't believe she got that so wrong.
@Cosmo-Kramer5 ай бұрын
@@dmellis It's not surprising at all that she got that stuff wrong, this was one role in a single episode, among scores of characters she played during her career up to the point of this mid-'70s interview. It simply doesn't mean that much to her.
@MarkSmith-js2pu3 жыл бұрын
She is still stunning❤️❤️
@soniaellis1637 ай бұрын
She said she gets asked more, about her part in star trek as Edith Kheeler then any thing else she ever did, and shes very proud of that part. We all love joan, shes a legend.❤😊
@racookster2 жыл бұрын
Joan should have read the whole script more carefully. I assume she just memorized her own lines. She probably wasn't even in the studio when Nimoy explained exactly how her character derailed history.
@TheGoodwolfe6 жыл бұрын
William Shatner has spoken highly of her, yet she adds this unnecessary catty insult about him for a laugh. how Tacky!
@alansmithey62616 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely correct. Rather disturbing I'd say.
@thecaynuck46942 жыл бұрын
And 3 years later she's calling him a fool for going to space. She's so immature.
@47imagine2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree.
@lechatelАй бұрын
Indeed. especially as Collins has worn a wig for YEARS as her hair thinned in middle age. And it is also a well known trick to hide the tape used for a 'flying face-lift'.
@GA-1st4 жыл бұрын
This interview was in 1994, I believe. She was 60....
@d.j.el-magnifico35113 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a bus that did Edith Keeler in ..... It was a large delivery truck!
@danutzzz20643 жыл бұрын
Do you remember perfectly things about what you did one time, 40 years ago?
@relentlesscactus3 жыл бұрын
@@danutzzz2064 No, I don't. Chillax, Joan, chillax
@catlady83242 жыл бұрын
Mind the lorry! 🚛
@BlueEyed8882 ай бұрын
She probably never even watched the actual episode.
@Pharoset2 жыл бұрын
Man, she distorted the whole script. That is exactly why one cannot rely on the facts of an autobiography.
@daffidavit5 жыл бұрын
We know that Shatner had hair replacement procedures of some sort as he got older, but I never thought he was "follicly challenged" in Star Trek. He was about 35 in 1966 when he made Star Trek. I don't think hair replacement technology was that good back in that time. His hairline seemed fine during TOS, to me.
@dalebaker91095 жыл бұрын
William, appearance on star trek, was totally fake, he wore shoes with 3 or 4 inch lifts. Had a toupee, to cover the few hairs left, on his head. He had had a bald spot, from 1956. But you can see it from his side, he was a young man, who was an actor, where everything is to do with looks.
@lancebaylis31692 жыл бұрын
He used a very sophisticated lattice-type thing on the TV show, and was already balding. In the episode "The Deadly Years" the makeup department initially incorporated some of Shatner's extra scalp into the old-age makeup, but after a day's filming Shatner insisted on a rethink. They never reshot that day's work though which is why at one point in the episode Captain Kirk is balding rapidly, only to grow most of it back again as he gets even older.
@racookster2 жыл бұрын
In hi-def copies of Star Trek, you can sometimes see the netting at Shatner's hairline (or toupe-line). Since his "hair" was combed back, they had to glue the mesh to his forehead and hide it with pancake makeup. That worked fine for the crappy TV resolution of the mid-'sixties, but it was visible on the film. Back then, nobody dreamed that the show would become so popular, high-resolution copies would be made and people in the 21st century would watch them frame-by-frame.
@davidjohnson46416 ай бұрын
Shatner's height is listed as 5'10". That wasn't short in the 1960's and it's 4" taller than her listed height.
@rickardcooper60632 ай бұрын
Shatner wore lifts (see Cruise, Downey Jr., etc.) and a hairpiece (see Burt Reynolds, Willard Scott, almost entire cast of Bonanza, Steve Harvey and John Travolta) Hollywood is an illusion. Or is it allusion? 🤔
@bbser2 жыл бұрын
how in the world did Joan screw up the plot so badly??? Hitler..? NOOOOO ffs!
@PaulChiesa-db5znАй бұрын
She's a big part of the Trek legacy
@greyeyed1232 жыл бұрын
These quotes, or similar ones, are hilarious in Harlan Ellison's book about his script and this episode. I always half wondered if she was misquoted or something, but no. She was actually this clueless...after being in the episode...and talking about it for decades. I think she was embarrassed by Star Trek, had no motivation to understand anything about it, and so purposefully tried to make it sound ridiculous just to prop her own ego up. Someone, somewhere must have corrected her over the years. People had to be constantly asking her about that role, and she had to constantly be saying her character loved Hitler. Did she really think legions of fans would love an episode with a Hitler-loving love interest that gets hit by a truck (not a bus) at the end?
@jeremydavidson91943 ай бұрын
Joan used the ''80's cultural trait that geeky tv shows were "uncool" to make herself seem "more cool". And that was very "lame" of her.
@heene Жыл бұрын
She was a bit rude about him, and I didn't like the 'Carry on' film type line at the end.
@greenbrown777611 ай бұрын
She gave an incredible performance and yet doesn't seem to understand at all what her role was about. A bit disillusioning.
@brianbarrett19224 күн бұрын
It was one TV show, maybe two pages of lines. She's probably read at least 100,000 pages of lines. Lighten up.
@greenbrown777623 күн бұрын
@@brianbarrett192 Alexis!
@flamingpanties3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I watched this. Another fantasy shattered.
@michaeloffgridАй бұрын
Yeah, well said.
@scottkuhn40266 жыл бұрын
She messed up the lines so badly during the filming. And they had her lines being put into shatners earpiece so he had to listen to it through the day. They showed Shatner getting angry. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sLuclLaCx9bHqp8.html
@brucef3104 жыл бұрын
I loved this.
@rtrappjr3 жыл бұрын
to funny!
@petertaylor85033 жыл бұрын
The Start Trek episode is timelessly great, and so was she in those days furing the fliming - but she completely hashed the details and plot dynamics of this brilliant sci-fi classic....oh well, another day;'s work well done but poorly recollected....ouch!
@nicholasjanke3476 Жыл бұрын
Bill and Joan were dating behind the scenes. A secret romance.
@davidboda164024 күн бұрын
She enjoyed the *captain's log*
@tcbtcb75532 ай бұрын
DONT WATCH OR YOU WILL BE DISAPPOINTED
@MikeD_14 күн бұрын
Yes. She has it all wrong to the point she doesn't even properly remember her character Edith Keeler.
@Postinaway3 ай бұрын
It's funny how the attitudes of actors toward Star Trek have changed. In Joan's day, film was the prestige and TV was its poor, embarrassing cousin. Now, post pandemic, TV and internet are the centers of cultural life, with films struggling to bring in audiences. Actors dream of a regular Trek series role because between residuals and conventions, they never have to work again outside of autograph signing and paid selfie taking. They can do theatre, they can do indies, or they can do nothing, and they're set for life.
@go-goakins14894 жыл бұрын
Cool🖖🖖🖖🖖
@michaelbrennick4 ай бұрын
The timeline of the episode is 1930. An American social worker would have no knowledge of Hitler, and even foreign policy experts would never forecast his success in 1930. According to Spock later in the 30s she becomes a peacenik and somehow turns America pacifist and non interventionist in WW2. Pacificism in the face of Nazism and Japanese militarism is very stupid but it doesn't make the dumb pacifist pro Hitler.
@ADAMSIXTIES2 жыл бұрын
Harlan Ellison knew this was Joan's take on his script and he was mad...but he was mad about every aspect of the episode 😜Actually aside from her getting the year wrong (1936 or '38), her understanding of Edith Keeler is not that far off. Hear me out: the "correct" interpretation is that she's a pacifist and futurist and convinces FDR to not go to war (how she does this after Pearl Harbor is anyone's guess), but whatever her motive, it's the effect that matters. Her actions allow the Ultramagas of the era to get the bomb and win the war. And the America First movement was made up of Fascists like Lindbergh, Communists (because of the Hiter-Stalin Frendship agreement) and Pacifists who wanted "peace". But here's the thing: if Kirk loved her why didn't he tell her the situation and convince her NOT to do that instead of (spoiler) letting her die.
@KelikakuCoutin2 жыл бұрын
UltraMAGA! Reeeee! Big Mike!
@STLT Жыл бұрын
Wow, you’re ignorance is unsurpassed..
@jamesnasium40353 ай бұрын
She has it wrong, oh well.
@mcarlkv532 ай бұрын
since joan collins and william shatner are still living in 2024 why dont they get together and make a fan episode about how now at 94 years old captain kirk goes back to the guardian of forever and be with edith one last time?
@TheNeonRabbit2 жыл бұрын
Wrong, Joan
@Anjuli5011 ай бұрын
This is all BS. Edith Keeler was a pacifist and believed in a peaceful, progressive future. Either Collins' memory was off, or she never properly understood the character she was playing.
@brianbarrett19224 күн бұрын
Maybe she's just a human being without a photographic memory.