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Jocko Podcast 133 w/ Echo Charles: The Horrors of Unit 731

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Jocko Podcast

Jocko Podcast

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0:00:00 - Opening: Testimony Unit 731, by Hal Gold.
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0:11:24 - Unit 731, By Pete Williams.
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1:40:33 - Final thoughts and take-aways.
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@yukiniikura4706
@yukiniikura4706 2 жыл бұрын
As a Japanese person, I’ve never been taught this horrifying stuff in schools. These atrocities must be remembered. Jocko and Echo, thank you both of you.
@jonathanhunt9979
@jonathanhunt9979 Жыл бұрын
As an American, I was never taught this either.
@randomizerteleviewage307
@randomizerteleviewage307 Жыл бұрын
​@@jonathanhunt9979I was "fortunate" enough to have a history teacher in high school who was passionate enough about history and the importance of learning from it to take the time to make sure to teach us about attrocities like this that more "mainstream" history sources don't tell us about.
@CreamOfYheat
@CreamOfYheat Жыл бұрын
It makes an American wonder what other countries learn about that we don't know about. It's just as horrific to know our officials pardoned them just for data. We still could've prosecuted. Definitely could've lied for the data but our government let that man and others involved live healthy lives after.
@JingPan-lo2zu
@JingPan-lo2zu 11 ай бұрын
你才是真正为日本着想的人,和那些极右分子不一样
@sw1ftshade
@sw1ftshade 6 жыл бұрын
The sighs Jocko makes between the horrific parts just amplifies it so much.
@IrishTechnicalThinker
@IrishTechnicalThinker 6 жыл бұрын
Sw1ftshade Amen.
@nicolasa6789
@nicolasa6789 3 жыл бұрын
Cheeeeeeck
@brandijohnson9094
@brandijohnson9094 2 жыл бұрын
They are fake and dramatic
@astrofarmer9350
@astrofarmer9350 3 ай бұрын
​@@brandijohnson9094this guy has seen some disgusting things im sure some of these things bring back memories of smells of these things.
@7j3-Tango-Hotel
@7j3-Tango-Hotel 6 жыл бұрын
I was about 10 years old living in Japan when a breaking documentary about Unit 731 was released to the public. It aired on NHK (the national broadcast channel in Japan like the BBC). The documentary opened with an old footage of a vivisection on a young boy. I will never be able to forget that scene. It also talked about all the different kinds of human experiments unit 731 did along with old footage and drawings of various contraptions of evil. When I was 10 years old, I wasn't really able to comprehend it on an intellectual level but understood on an instinctual level how horrible it must have been. Even when I was that young, I knew that evil existed in the world.
@jeanbelmondo6468
@jeanbelmondo6468 3 жыл бұрын
It heartens me that there was once a time when Japanese people could turn on the tv and become educated as to the gross evils of their fathers.
@aben7810
@aben7810 Жыл бұрын
I remember instances watching extremely shitcore graphics on a website called 0grish, I'm Arabic and in my country gouv didn't give a shit about the internet in earlier 2000. now I'm 30 so I was about 15y,. those were graphics about afgan and ira9 whenever I remember what I was watching at that early age I really regret.
@deankruse8751
@deankruse8751 4 жыл бұрын
Today I learned that when jocko says its gonna get dark he really means it
@ParadymShiftVegan
@ParadymShiftVegan 4 жыл бұрын
When Jocko says anything, he really means it.
@Hueyrio
@Hueyrio 3 жыл бұрын
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@mercurygirl6897
@mercurygirl6897 3 жыл бұрын
🥺🥺🥺🥺
@hammerlane3871
@hammerlane3871 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah when a seal says shits bad, then it's bad for them and incomprehensible for everyone else.
@aisforaaron
@aisforaaron 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah 5 minutes in and I’m not turning it off. I got a feeling I might should
@SKgyebaek
@SKgyebaek 6 жыл бұрын
The world is ignorant to Japanese war crimes during the world wars. We south koreans will never forget.
@menwithven8114
@menwithven8114 6 жыл бұрын
ROKMC Rec. As an American I always wondered why North Koreans hate the U.S. so much. We helped get those crazy ass Japanese out of there.
@SKgyebaek
@SKgyebaek 6 жыл бұрын
Yes but the North Koreans also hate the japanese. Its just that their threats against japan dont get broadcasted.
@Dean.AlAmriki
@Dean.AlAmriki 6 жыл бұрын
ROKMC Rec. The world really is, unfortunately :(
@aikonatsumi5611
@aikonatsumi5611 6 жыл бұрын
Recovered Gamer that's cool you studied international conflicts. Most of human history is rife with repeated mistakes but with the advent of satellite technology and advanced weapons I wonder if looking back in the past is as effective as it once was previously. It's still important of course but the way war and politics has changed so much over the last two decades it's very ominous what the future holds for us. Do you ever think about this?
@menwithven8114
@menwithven8114 6 жыл бұрын
Aiko Natsumi I dont think there will ever be another conventional war between two "first world countries" because every country is so powerful and most have nuclear weapons. I just can't see a big country going to war, look like they are gonna lose, and not let out nukes. That's why most big countries have fought nothing but proxy wars since the 50's so they can pull away if they need without taking a loss. IF it happens it will be utterly devastating.
@gamania122
@gamania122 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Chinese, this is the scar that is burned into every one of us, my blood boils, there are no words.
@MC_1993
@MC_1993 6 жыл бұрын
1) these stories are definitely worse than horror movies 2) I appreciate how sharp and concise Jockos wording/pronunciation is.
@jamescooper-hope6930
@jamescooper-hope6930 6 жыл бұрын
Never forget. One reason for our generation to sit and listen to our vets. Some telling insight.
@adelaidemarie
@adelaidemarie 4 жыл бұрын
James Meehan did you see how Joe Biden treated those vets that questioned him?
@BetaBuxDelux
@BetaBuxDelux 6 жыл бұрын
This stuff should be taught in schools. For a while I had forgotten just how evil humans can be, but this happened less than 80 years ago. The human race hasn’t evolved hardly any since then.
@danpt2000
@danpt2000 5 жыл бұрын
The US gov't offered immunity to the members of Unit 731 in exchange for information of their experimentation. Much like how Nazi scientists who operated War factories.
@turkwelsch
@turkwelsch 4 жыл бұрын
The false teaching of darwinian evolution imbedded in the minds of both the Germans and Japanese that they were more human than their captors is what caused this! And to think we are teaching our children this in our schools, what horror lies ahead!
@turkwelsch
@turkwelsch 4 жыл бұрын
@@ozymandias7969 what,what?! Read it again it speaks for itself! When it is believed that one group of people is more evolved (more human)than another, then killing them is not a moral problem.
@CoHigh
@CoHigh 4 жыл бұрын
@@turkwelsch its classic, you dehumanize them then the ppl who actually do the killing dont think nothing of it. I wouldn't think twice about killing a rat, or cutting down a tree... but killing a person with children , a mom and dad I think id rather die.
@user-rn4ez8sx3d
@user-rn4ez8sx3d 4 жыл бұрын
@@CoHigh unless it's one of the unit 731. I'd kill them, their families and their entire bloodline if I had to.
@bc_cimmerian
@bc_cimmerian 6 жыл бұрын
The parts about vivisection made me a bit queesy, not gonna lie. The Nazis get all the attention, but Imperial Japan was comparably evil.
@arvidfalk5719
@arvidfalk5719 6 жыл бұрын
Or argubly worse. But in the end, nothing beats the communists...
@forrestcravens9343
@forrestcravens9343 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely they were. But we need to apologize for nuking them, right? Even though we helped them rebuild their country afterwards and didn't punish their war criminals? Smh.
@Raptured_and_back
@Raptured_and_back 6 жыл бұрын
Jesse Japan sided with Germany because birds of a feather flock together. Two leaders on the same mental frequency are inevitably going to form an alliance, once they tune in to each other.
@BenjiQ575
@BenjiQ575 6 жыл бұрын
It is justifiable to feel that way, but it is a self-defeating attitude. Have you wondered why there has been no major wars since 1945? I don't mean proxy wars in developing nations, I mean Russia vs. England, France vs. Italy, America vs. China? It's because these massively wealthy nations are wealthy because of the people, not the resources, so invading Silicon Valley is pointless; all you get is some sandy soil and confused programmers. The reason the U.S. helped them rebuild their country afterwards was SOLELY for the purpose of maintaining strategic bases in the region. Japan isn't even allowed an army anymore, dude, only a Self-Defence Force. Their military is the American military. Japan is essentially a puppet state of U.S. political interests, but because their economy thrived in the post-war rebound period, they managed to create a hyper-developed nation that has a higher average living standard (discounting space) than the average American. The same reason America doesn't just invade North Korea. Having half a war's worth of strategic placements in the South Korean area means that America is in a good position to defend against any movements by China or Russia. We all know that America could stomp North Korea, hell, South Korea could probably stomp North Korea, but the Yanks aren't there for North Korea. You should study history more and try to understand, personally, why things played out the way they did. Some things are accidents, but most aren't. If it wasn't Hitler, it might have been Himmler as Fuhrer.
@BenjiQ575
@BenjiQ575 6 жыл бұрын
That was @Forrest Cravens
@heatherwallace789
@heatherwallace789 4 жыл бұрын
My Great Uncle was captured by the Japanese, was on a hell ship, in the Bataan death march and was in prison camp in Mukden and liberated by the Russians. His account of what happened exactly mirrors what is explained in this podcast (told at 48:00 minutes in this podcast ) We have lots of his artifacts, his journal he kept during the prison camp, his mess kit.
@christinejohnston496
@christinejohnston496 3 жыл бұрын
My great uncle was on the forced Bataan death march , interred in a Japanese concentration camp as well. He came back a changed man, he never talked about what he went through . This makes me very sad that he he went through such horrors . The Filipino sneaked food to the prison camp he was at . The Filipino people were very brave.
@deadarmd
@deadarmd 2 жыл бұрын
So my best friend as a child was half filipino. His mom called me "kuya"(?) She told us about her father who fought and uncle who died fighting the Japanese. Said her dad became very upset when he talked about that situation and lived the rest of his life violent. She was a pretty strict woman but very funny. Always she wished her family would get the credit for fighting the Japanese.
@ngallardo1994
@ngallardo1994 6 жыл бұрын
Horror movies do not compare to the kinds of experiments done by Imperial Japan.
@razkable
@razkable 4 жыл бұрын
don't forget the rape of naking...
@aaronshouting588
@aaronshouting588 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t compare reality to fiction like that though… fiction is just fiction. Of course no horror movies will ever compare to real life atrocities like Unit 731 and the Holocaust!
@DesGardius-me7gf
@DesGardius-me7gf 4 жыл бұрын
"Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted; the indifference of those who should have known better; the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most; that has made it possible for evil to triumph." -Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia
@adelaidemarie
@adelaidemarie 4 жыл бұрын
Des Gardius 2012 exactly
@catebee4431
@catebee4431 6 жыл бұрын
Incredible. And there is so little information out there about this. I grew up with whispers about Japanese torture, but the Nazi's were always the boogeymen in history. Excellent podcast. Thank you.
@razkable
@razkable 4 жыл бұрын
only cause the nazis had more men power and invaded more...japan did more damage invading less than any other country...
@neozeonsolid
@neozeonsolid 4 жыл бұрын
Nathanial The Japanese liberated South East Asia from its colonial overlords of the West.
@iHaveTheDocuments
@iHaveTheDocuments 4 жыл бұрын
Because it's only politically correct to hate whites and talk about their faults.
@kimri123
@kimri123 4 жыл бұрын
@@razkable What Japan did to Asia was more terrible than the Nazis.
@k.r9494
@k.r9494 4 жыл бұрын
Zondares they become the new emperor is all. that’s honestly pretty offensive as a Korean my self. they did unspeakable things to our people and china.
@torres9656
@torres9656 6 жыл бұрын
This podcast has no fear to talk about the harsh topics and the history nobody wants to talk about. #standbytogetsome
@vinevienevo
@vinevienevo 6 жыл бұрын
ARIES nice. Thanks, I couldn't come up with the words.
@Saphire1993
@Saphire1993 4 жыл бұрын
We were taught this in history class several years in a row and then again when you have to get the obligatory US history class in highschool
@vaishooji8183
@vaishooji8183 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that winners write the history is exemplified by how British how they whitewashed everything they did in India and other colonies. British did mow down unarmed people with machine guns and used indian soldiers like throwaway fodder.
@st1llfr338
@st1llfr338 3 жыл бұрын
EXCEPT American war crimes ofc xD
@legionarulsquad6676
@legionarulsquad6676 2 жыл бұрын
@@st1llfr338 they cover some of that as well.
@jimb34n29
@jimb34n29 4 жыл бұрын
Resident evil was definitely inspired by this. The umbrella even looks like the Japanese imperial symbol
@brandontadday6288
@brandontadday6288 2 ай бұрын
I always wondered why I have never heard anyone mention this in any of the Resident Evil video essays I’ve watched. A great example is the backstory to Lisa Trevor in the RE1 remake. I wonder if the devs were directly influenced by the events of Unit 731 when it came to covering these topics in the franchise or if it was merely a consequence of cultural osmosis?
@danpt2000
@danpt2000 5 жыл бұрын
You don't need Fiction novels. Real life is crazy enough.
@user-gz7fh8vo6e
@user-gz7fh8vo6e 4 жыл бұрын
I believe I first learned about Nanjing and 731 when I was in high school, bored and surfing the web. I don't think I've ever found anything worse or more chilling in the decade or more since, and I am still continuously fascinated, intrigued, and horrified by the sheer evil and malevolence. Like Jocko said, imagine that the woman and her baby are someone you know. But worse is, imagine that being your mom. Imagine yourself being put on the table, held down and cut open. I am the squeamish type, so getting a paper cut is already unpleasant. Going to the dentist is unpleasant, you are totally at their mercy for not hitting your gums too much with their scary looking tools... but at least the dentist is trying to help you. But now imagine that they're basically tearing you inside out, perhaps (more like most likely) with the intention of causing pain. And no one undergoing this stuff ever had experience. I'd like to think that the victims of this horror show lived a long time ago, and felt less pain than I did, or that since they grew up rough, that this experimentation stuff hut them less... but I'm totally in denial if I continued to believe that. This is the unsettling truth about humans - we are all extremely fragile bodies that don't self heal. Once you are frozen, stabbed, cut open, whatever it is - you aren't going to get any better. Now all you must face is death, and hope that it comes swiftly. After listening to this podcast, I am truly grateful that I was not born in a time and situation where I would have ended up being experimented on. To be conscious ever so briefly in the universe just to have so much pain brought upon you. Truly horrific.
@Frank79811
@Frank79811 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jocko. We salute you from China.
@user-fz7xs2xl8s
@user-fz7xs2xl8s 4 жыл бұрын
Frank79811 Exactly! Never forget!
@neozeonsolid
@neozeonsolid 3 жыл бұрын
Stop running concentration camps and political prisons. I thought KZfaq was banned in your country
@jacob-mz9cv
@jacob-mz9cv 3 жыл бұрын
@@neozeonsolid cough cough *southern boarder camps* cough cough
@homelesslukeskywalker7277
@homelesslukeskywalker7277 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, you communist helped the Japanese, and when you found the chance, you guys back stabbed the nationalist who are known as taiwan .
@nj7969
@nj7969 Жыл бұрын
@@jacob-mz9cv Not even comparable.
@bullbythehorns808
@bullbythehorns808 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's fucked up but these dark podcasts are always some of the best. We all need to realize how horrifying normal people are capable of becoming.
@ZombieLincoln666
@ZombieLincoln666 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the book Ordinary Men, about SS officers
@mayhemmonkey072
@mayhemmonkey072 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still using this podcast to educate my family over a year later, thank you Jocko.
@katelynwhitaker9818
@katelynwhitaker9818 4 жыл бұрын
As a biochemist biochemical warfare freaks me out more than any other kind of war
@ZombieLincoln666
@ZombieLincoln666 3 жыл бұрын
I’m terrified of Sarin gas. What a demonic chemical
@adamlew6145
@adamlew6145 Жыл бұрын
I was a 74 delta (CBRN Specialist) in the Army. They put us in full MOPP gear in a room with two kinds of nerve agent one of them being VX.
@schaddenkorp6977
@schaddenkorp6977 Жыл бұрын
@@adamlew6145 Is it true that VX causes your nervous system to go haywire and you basically suffer muscle spasms so intense you basically end up like a rag doll.
@Zilla508
@Zilla508 3 жыл бұрын
I love how he went straight into it right away. Jocko is a real one 💯
@menwithven8114
@menwithven8114 6 жыл бұрын
This podcast and #16 about the Rwandan genocide are definitely the two hardest I've heard.
@forrestcravens9343
@forrestcravens9343 6 жыл бұрын
RecovERed GamER ya dude. I read Machete Season not long after that podcast. Reading that book on top of listening to Jordan Peterson will make you take a long look at yourself and realize what atrocities you're capable of.
@menwithven8114
@menwithven8114 6 жыл бұрын
Forrest Cravens I found the Rwandan genocide actually tougher to come to terms with. Just mind boggling that neighbors started hacking at each other with machetes or teachers dismembering someone that was their student the week before. I've listened to EVERY Jocko podcast and I had the hardest time with that one. There's just something extra terrifying about civil wars where people kill their own fellow citizens.
@forrestcravens9343
@forrestcravens9343 6 жыл бұрын
RecovERed GamER ditto.
@musicalfringe
@musicalfringe 3 жыл бұрын
@@menwithven8114 I read about Rwanda in Amy Chua's excellent "World on Fire", and my first thought was "this is actually WORSE than Nazi Germany" in the sense that the citizens did it. There was no distant government with death camps to give the population plausible deniability; they did it themselves. 800,000 dead in 100 days. The mind boggles.
@CoHigh
@CoHigh 4 жыл бұрын
Watched Jordan Peterson talk about this and was doing more research, found you. Very sad topic, but history is history we can't just forget... this is our history
@TheJpwzrd
@TheJpwzrd 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson brought me here as well. He just mentioned it in his “butchers and liars” video. Very impactful video
@AmNotHere911
@AmNotHere911 6 жыл бұрын
Not many people know this but after WW2 ended many of the members of Unit 731 ended up being recruited by the US to create biological weapons for the US & according to Peter Williams (who wrote a famous book on the topic) some of those individuals played a role in helping the US use biological weapons during the Korean war.
@IrishTechnicalThinker
@IrishTechnicalThinker 6 жыл бұрын
AmNotHere911 Sounds simular to operation Paperclip. American took the Nazi scientists, only to establish NASA. The CIA and Nazis elite are cut from the same cloth, in my opinion.
@MrEnomek
@MrEnomek 7 ай бұрын
Strangely, I feel calmer and better after these kind of dark podcasts. Jocko's strength gives courage.
@MarzaButTube
@MarzaButTube 6 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is I've seen (most likely Japanese from their english) people defend imperial Japan denying that they did anything
@MrJaybeezy123
@MrJaybeezy123 4 жыл бұрын
It's just like the Armenian genocide
@cc3822
@cc3822 4 жыл бұрын
Not The CIA, your dead on. We always make the US the bad guys for some reason. Maybe, our education system has more motive behind the criculam. 😶
@adelaidemarie
@adelaidemarie 4 жыл бұрын
C C we Are bad. Look at what we are doing to Jullian and Bradley. They are taking the brunt of the crimes they exposed.
@razkable
@razkable 4 жыл бұрын
america defends japan and nazis because they helped us ...we are just as gross...
@brettsullivan8217
@brettsullivan8217 4 жыл бұрын
@@razkable when did the nazis and japanese help us exactly?
@seraphx26
@seraphx26 6 жыл бұрын
There is a movie called Men Behind the Sun about Unit 731 and the dehumanization of the Chinese people under Japanese occupation, not for the squeamish as the various methods of torture on full cinematic display.
@shawnbrodrick8673
@shawnbrodrick8673 6 жыл бұрын
seraphx26 parts of the movie are on KZfaq...if you can stomach it
@vinevienevo
@vinevienevo 6 жыл бұрын
Shawn Brodrick burley. I'm in.
@yunyunpilled
@yunyunpilled 6 жыл бұрын
seraphx26 that cat scene still haunts me
@AB-ee5tb
@AB-ee5tb 6 жыл бұрын
Is it a movie or a documentary?
@yunyunpilled
@yunyunpilled 6 жыл бұрын
da gawd movie
@henrymonroe4300
@henrymonroe4300 4 жыл бұрын
My my how interesting- whose here in April 2020?
@AKStorm49
@AKStorm49 4 жыл бұрын
Just started listening today. May 4th.
@GatorDave
@GatorDave 4 жыл бұрын
Henry Monroe They should touch base on this again, to think all of those war criminals were protected and let go, and the philosophy they had about their work really makes me wonder about the origin of current state.
@henrymonroe4300
@henrymonroe4300 4 жыл бұрын
@@AKStorm49 right on man!
@henrymonroe4300
@henrymonroe4300 4 жыл бұрын
@@LadyMinju greetings from the past 😂
@henrymonroe4300
@henrymonroe4300 4 жыл бұрын
@@GatorDave I completely agree my friend. I also wonder how much of this is still practiced today
@johnlocke9091
@johnlocke9091 2 жыл бұрын
I just learned you covered Unit 731. More people need to hear this story because it is unpleasant to hear. I know smart strong people avoid this topic because it stains the social soul. Thank you
@aklosterboer
@aklosterboer 3 жыл бұрын
3,000 is an extremely low number. Video interview from 1 surviving surgeon in his 90's is available where he states that 10 of thousands died. He himself is responsible for the death of several thousand. It is incredibly disturbing and unbelievable what these "people" did. This should never be forgotten.
@rjames3981
@rjames3981 Жыл бұрын
Don’t normally reference Wikipedia, but it indicates nearly half a million victims in total throughout the course of the war.
@ScoundrelSFB
@ScoundrelSFB 4 жыл бұрын
I've known about Unit 731, but to have a whole sit down and discuss this horrific episode in time was immensely staggering and captivating. Thank you Jocko for having these discussions.
@animula6908
@animula6908 3 жыл бұрын
I worked for an American colonel who survived the Bataan death March. He was way up in his 90s when the tsunami hit Japan. He cackled every time footage of that came on the news.
@jmluc90
@jmluc90 6 жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in Japan. I am a patriotic American but I also love Japan. Most Japanese people have absolutely no idea that this happened or what the details are. If they knew about it, the river of tears of shame for the actions or their countrymen would never run dry. Most Japanese honestly don’t understand why the Koreans and the Chinese have such hard feelings against them. Interestingly, some of the ones fighting and lobbying the hardest for government reparations and for a formal recognition of responsibility by the government are certain Japanese citizens. They are still working to uncover new evidence.
@yumyumdonutsdoo6700
@yumyumdonutsdoo6700 5 жыл бұрын
your not American like i will never be Japanese!!!!
@desireoverpain
@desireoverpain 5 жыл бұрын
@@yumyumdonutsdoo6700 You do not know if his parents were from the USA or Japan. You also don't know how long he lived in Japan as compared to the States. He could of lived in Japan for the first 10 years of his life then in the USA for the next 40. I disagree strongly with your comment.
@yumyumdonutsdoo6700
@yumyumdonutsdoo6700 5 жыл бұрын
@@desireoverpain Yeah "he could have" ok? The reality is im American and even if i moved to lets say France i would still be American (how would i go around saying im French ,LMAO)20,30,40,50 years later whatever length of time. I wouldn't even consider him Japanese American because he wasn't even born here. Sure he can live here thats great and all we need diversity but hes a traitor to his country, bet he would even give us intel if he knew any (in a war situation that would be treason).
@tebow954
@tebow954 4 жыл бұрын
@@yumyumdonutsdoo6700 As a legal american citizen, he's reserved the right to his subjective patriotism, political labels aside; treason, traitor, irrelevant. Just do whats fuckin right. we got wittec programs, bring on the intel 😂
@michaeldeen8849
@michaeldeen8849 4 жыл бұрын
Yumyumdonuts Doo your ignorance will keep you where you are !
@timmcclymont3527
@timmcclymont3527 6 жыл бұрын
Man Jocko, keep the book reads coming, this is your most immersive yet. I love all your videos but I really keep coming back for the book reads.
@cobycarrington9999
@cobycarrington9999 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I’m going into the service. There is stuff out there that is a literal horror movie and people actual suffering. “Liberty and justice for all”.
@phandalism
@phandalism 6 жыл бұрын
History is history, there's no other way to tell it. Great podcast as always!
@nancychandler768
@nancychandler768 Жыл бұрын
Truthfully
@berriesncreme51
@berriesncreme51 4 жыл бұрын
When Echo said “good evening” I really felt that
@tylermillare8417
@tylermillare8417 3 жыл бұрын
Jocko's is so straight forward and prepared and respectful. Echo's is so relaxed and atmospheric. Both are the polar opposite spectrum of Gentlemen #Respect
@ElderFreeman413
@ElderFreeman413 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to share the story and to be informative as always and honestly to be humanizing about it, not just pushing a single point of view.
@Pyramidbuilder1
@Pyramidbuilder1 6 жыл бұрын
Always listened to jre at work, untill I discovered this gem thanks brother very informative and factual. Good work man
@user-fg1tt7py6e
@user-fg1tt7py6e 5 жыл бұрын
All these years, I've been familiar like everyone else with the unspeakable horrors that took place in the death camps in Europe under Nazi power. I'm almost 30 years old and first started learning about unit 731 yesterday. Just when we thought that nothing could be any worse than the Nazis, this is the worst thing I have ever heard of. This is not to minimize what the Nazis did at all; The victims of the holocaust in Europe suffered extremely brutal deaths that included being burned alive in some instances. Overall, the Nazis would still be just as bad. Although not as many people died at Unit 731, the Japanese researchers conducted various extreme, gruesome, and agonizing experiments on victims. It reminded me of those Final Destination movies if not even worse. Doing these things to animals is extremely evil. Non-humans don't ever deserve to suffer like that either.
@BettyWhite2171
@BettyWhite2171 4 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the movie about this? It's called Men behind the sun, if you're interested.
@user-fg1tt7py6e
@user-fg1tt7py6e 4 жыл бұрын
@@BettyWhite2171 I took a peak at it and could not sit through it. It may have looked old for a movie from 1988, yet was ahead of its time when it came to depicting the most gruesome acts of violence in history.
@KingHookJ
@KingHookJ 5 жыл бұрын
This needs to be common knowledge all over the world, there's no light/good without dark/evil and people need to know about the evil there is in the world past, present and future. Keep spreading these stories Jocko, the atrocities of the world need to be known and taught in more schools.
@Saphire1993
@Saphire1993 4 жыл бұрын
There's a shit ton of documentaries and movies about this, many you would commonly find on the History Channel before it became All Aliens All the Time
@kanvanite3585
@kanvanite3585 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, thank you for sharing this. I had no idea it even existed. Best podcast ever.
@kudakwashemwashayenyi4752
@kudakwashemwashayenyi4752 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Rogan got me here....and am glad🙏
@Balrog304
@Balrog304 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys for putting this information out into the public realm. Most are not aware of it.
@lowveil
@lowveil Жыл бұрын
General Douglas MacArthur deciding to grant those in Unit 731 immunity showed the United States was not as “white knight in shining armor” in the war as we may think.
@ericarnold5259
@ericarnold5259 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna have to buy this book now.
@timwannell6477
@timwannell6477 2 жыл бұрын
why is this not taught to children at school? Like Jocko said, if we do not remember or learn from history we are doomed to it being repeated
@crescentfresh8001
@crescentfresh8001 7 күн бұрын
I've always been fascinated by 731. It's concerning how many people still have no idea about it, and I try to learn all that I can on the subject so that I may try to understand it on some level. But the more that I learn, the more that I see, it doesn't make it make any more sense. It's intense psychopathy and sociopathy all the way down, under the flimsiest of reasoning. And to think of how many other events of similar brutality that have happened, still happen, will happen... it's beyond horrifying.
@1fitRN
@1fitRN 6 жыл бұрын
The blacker the darkness the brighter the light that overcomes that darkness seems.
@shubhojitghosh69
@shubhojitghosh69 4 жыл бұрын
My grandpa and his brothers fought in Burma glad that they were never caught by the Japanese
@maestro7058
@maestro7058 4 жыл бұрын
Who disliked this? Japanese Emperials?
@hongobongo8069
@hongobongo8069 4 жыл бұрын
japanese people
@adelaidemarie
@adelaidemarie 4 жыл бұрын
Maestro could be Any Emperial.
@bigchedds8389
@bigchedds8389 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the Americans who know we made a deal with these torturers and know that any mention of Unit 731 will place focus on that deal. Terms of the deal. Give us your research and you wont be charged for war crimes. Keep in mind Japan also used POWs for some of these "studies". I'd have to imagine some of those may have been Americans...
@maestro7058
@maestro7058 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigchedds8389 sure man wow!!!
@Sam-vt3tl
@Sam-vt3tl 3 жыл бұрын
@@hongobongo8069 Is that so? And you speak on behalf of all Japanese people huh?
@BradPitbull
@BradPitbull 6 жыл бұрын
THE JOCKO PODCAST MAKES AMERICA GREAT AGAIN THANK U GUYS!!!
@BradPitbull
@BradPitbull 6 жыл бұрын
RecovERed GamER good to know u can read jockos mind can i have tonites lottery numbers please since u know whats goin on thank u
@BradPitbull
@BradPitbull 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Bluha yolo
@josephsiko6731
@josephsiko6731 6 жыл бұрын
Trump is the absolute oppositie of a strong leader by jockos standards. No ownership, no leading by example. All shifting blame.
@brettsullivan8217
@brettsullivan8217 4 жыл бұрын
@@BradPitbull That has nothing to do with trump being ineffective leader. You having to make that comparison just proves the previous point. He has no ownership And has never led by example and blames all of his problems on someone else. Just as you have done here.
@brettsullivan8217
@brettsullivan8217 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephsiko6731 fucking right.
@Skippersonic
@Skippersonic 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jocko and Echo, for everything you do. When Extreme Ownership Part II comes out its going to be amazing
@MajesticDemonLord
@MajesticDemonLord 6 жыл бұрын
The scariest part IMO about Unit 731 - is that some of the results are still used by the Medical profession. That such inhuman torture could have a practical application in saving lives - that line of logic is truly terrifying
@johnjerge160
@johnjerge160 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that testing really gave us insight on how to treat a lot of things...
@forrestcravens9343
@forrestcravens9343 6 жыл бұрын
Those who feel the need to apologize for microwaving the Japanese twice at the end of the war need to listen to this.
@forrestcravens9343
@forrestcravens9343 6 жыл бұрын
Those civilians would have become hostiles as soon as conventional forces landed on their shores, and they would all be killed anyways. Atomic bombs saved more lives than sending Marines and soldiers would have. Imperial Japan was a borderline religion which all of its inhabitants were willing to die for. Use of the atomic bomb was an act of mercy. Oh, and we helped them rebuild their country after the war. Not the case with Germany, who rebuilt themselves. I don't here any apologies heading Germany's way for leveling Dresden and Hannover along with several other major cities where several civilians were also killed. Do they deserve an apology?
@forrestcravens9343
@forrestcravens9343 6 жыл бұрын
shugo104 I won't speak for Jocko, but I think he does express his opinions on it at 1:03:25. Regardless of what his opinions are on this matter, I don't believe it would really change mine on the matter. I understand your reasoning as far as not becoming blind with hatred for your enemy. I still don't see where the apology part comes in though. They needed to be stopped, they were stopped, end of story. I don't feel sorry for that, nor do I feel that America needs to apologize for that, especially after helping them rebuild. I do respect your consistency in your reasoning though, although I don't entirely agree with it. And your civility.
@Homelessgrunt
@Homelessgrunt 6 жыл бұрын
Forrest Cravens Aha I can see sides flipping in a different world and the Japanese use the excuse that we are too patriotic and would fight to the last civilian so they had to nuke places like New York & San Diego. Quit bullshitting. After we nuked the civilians, we did a thousand bomb grand finale that the generals planned to celebrate their surrender. While peace pamphlets fell on Tokyo. So did fucking bombs. Quit bullshitting dude I see through you
@Homelessgrunt
@Homelessgrunt 6 жыл бұрын
Forrest Cravens Oh yes “helping them rebuild” like establishing military bases on their island and guaranteeing they never have another standing army to defend themselves ever again. Oh yeah big fucking help dude
@forrestcravens9343
@forrestcravens9343 6 жыл бұрын
ROKMC Rec. And even more Japanese. Both by our weapons and their own due to suicide as a result of their failures to defend their homeland. It was the samurai way.
@maddog7795
@maddog7795 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a victim of unit 731 my grandfather was geneticly experimented on, and me and my father have a genetic condition which drs think is directly related and caused from my grandfather's experimentation
@salmonellachickenbreastroasted
@salmonellachickenbreastroasted 4 жыл бұрын
I am so, truly sorry... Heartbreaking x
@CRSaltVeins
@CRSaltVeins 3 жыл бұрын
Would you care to elaborate ? I’m curious because what is told is that nobody survived unit 731
@maddog7795
@maddog7795 3 жыл бұрын
@@CRSaltVeins their was a lot of survivors from 731, but only a very very small amount percentage based when compared to the total amount of overall victims. My grandfather was tortured and was apart of many many diff experiments but the one that caused me and my father to be born with a major genetic disorder is from when they forced groups of people to endure increasing amounts of radiation to the point of making some of them die from accute radiation sickness! very quickly after the experiment, the decreased the intensity but increased the durations of exposure so instead of short rlly intense doses they went to lower doses that they received all throughout the day which lasted the majority of the rest of his imprisonment at 731 he endured insane cumulative amounts of non lethal levels of radiation, He just like almost every else who was apart of that "experiment" got cancer! I think it was only 4? Or 6months? Or so.. after the war ended when the first cancer came, but between the wars end and his death a few yrs later from cancer he ended up having like 3-4 completely diff types of cancer over the course of those yrs! I dont mean like one spread to somewhere else I mean like he had whole diff types of cancer happen to him, which is crazy! But during the few yrs he was alone and fighting cancer he remarried and he had 5 kids and every single one had some major genetic condition or deformities, each person being born with a diff condition never the same disease showing in diff kids or twice, and all of the genetic conditions had never ran in our family history before that, and his other 6 children who were all born before the war with his first wife. Whom was also was in 731 and she actually died in 731. But before he was tortured for almost 2yrs straight while living in Hell on Earth, him, his wife and kids were all perfectly healthy, after 731 his wife, 2 of his kids with her died, 1 other kid was permanently mentally disabled from some type of lobotomy type torture they performed on her. And his other kid luckily didnt get tortured too bad my grandpa always said he thinks its because he was so young and they think he was used as some type of control group in diff "experiments" so he got rlly lucky. My grandfather entered with his wife and 4 of his kids into 731, afterwards he left 731 with only 2 kids alive with one being permanently mentally handicapped, the other being the young son that got lucky as survivors or 731. I mentioned previously he had 6 kids but luckily his oldest kid, his first born son who was a late teenager during the outbreak of ww2 when everything kicked off and rlly started getting serious he was in china and my grandfather made him stay in China with relatives and wouldnt let him return home. So he escaped the brutality of the Japanese government, but did end up needing to join the Chinese army. My grandfather is white and was living in korea with my Korean grandmother. She was raped and shit by the Japanese army and then they forced her, her kids and my grandfather into 731 after the captured her small village. But theirs so much more to it, this is just the basics off the top of my head but yea.. if u have any more questions or would like to talk over the phone some about it I'd be happy to talk with you or answer any questions you have. But short answer is, radiation exposer fucked and mutated my grandpa's dna and genetic shit in his seamen up, so when he had kids afterwards his dna was all fucked up in his seamen so when he had kids they all had defects, my dad having one which he then pasted onto me genetically. So I have a condition and I view myself as a victim of them even being alive 80yrs later. Edit: I forgot to mention their is some good that came from all the bad tho, all the data collected by exposing my grandfather and other people to radiation, the knowledge was extremely valuable and important after the Nagasaki and Hiroshima happened, all the "medical" notes they took on the prisoners was read and used to help treat survivors of the nuclear Bombs, and the relatively small group of people who were apart of that "experiment" contributed knowledge that potentially saved 1ks of lives possibly even more so.
@phillipmele
@phillipmele 6 жыл бұрын
What a great show. Thank You again, Sir. It’s like a book review only better and more entertaining and informative.
@laza_mma1052
@laza_mma1052 6 жыл бұрын
i just listened the podcast for the second time and no other episode has angered me so much , i can't believe that American government let all of this savages go free , nut only that but they allowed them high positions in various disciplines , disgusting.
@RealAmericanStar
@RealAmericanStar 3 жыл бұрын
The way Jacko is holding his knife 🔪 and complaining how echo didn't get him more trucker hats at 2:05:20 😂
@skeletony2812
@skeletony2812 3 жыл бұрын
I searched this out. Out of interest. Curiosity. I'm glad to find Jocko had a show on it
@bradbrubaker8247
@bradbrubaker8247 2 жыл бұрын
It was always bother me and anger me that the world has no idea how bad the Japanese were in the war. It’s always Nazi Nazi Nazi but nobody wants to read history to see they shouldn’t keep holding up Russia and Japan to such a high level
@Vexarax
@Vexarax 2 жыл бұрын
And Russia has its share of unimaginable atrocities too. Stalin's Gulags were literal hell on earth, people literally eating each other alive because killing was too much effort.. just take what you want and eat it while the person being consumed screams.. The atrocities that unfolded under Stalin's regime, not just the gulags but everything - it's almost beyond comprehension (as is Nanking and other Japanese atrocities) but many people insist nazis and white slave owners in early America were the worst of the worst in all of history. Heck yes they were bad, not denying that... but my gosh, there is just so much more to even our very recent history. Heck Nanking was so bad that nazis were risking their lives to try to save civilians from the brutalities being inflicted upon them. It has to be really, really bad when nazis come out as the good guys in a sitiation. And after having heard Yeonmi Park speaking out about what's happening in NK.. these things things are still happening in this world right now :c Yet it's always nazis and white slave owners with most folks - that's the limit of their understanding of the evils humans can inflict on other humans. But heck.. maybe it's better to be that way? Sometimes maybe it would be better to just not know. :/
@VincentDuxD
@VincentDuxD 5 жыл бұрын
well, I've been to that camp, It's now a museum, and the bio weapons they left behind all over Harbin still reeks havoc on our local population. Walking into that camp, you see bullet shaped water fountains first, then there are truly genius designs of torture devices inside their almost 50cm thick walls, after you walk through all those bone chilling photos and chambers, there are interviews of previous Japanese soldiers there, as one of them, who seems to be around 70 years old, describes his execution of Chinese civilians, who were running into the freezing snow to escape, with his car, I saw only pride on his face.
@adelaidemarie
@adelaidemarie 4 жыл бұрын
Vincent Du like the pride of those kids at Guantanamo? Remember the leaked pictures?
@user-fg1tt7py6e
@user-fg1tt7py6e 5 жыл бұрын
By the 47 minute mark, I'm without words. I am just shocked. This has us all reeling and sick to our stomachs.
@abelramirez7320
@abelramirez7320 Жыл бұрын
We briefly went over this in Army CBRN AIT. I was shocked and it still send chills down my spine.
@romegavadquez6310
@romegavadquez6310 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, this needs more attention than it gets
@beelbrother1648
@beelbrother1648 6 жыл бұрын
saving this podcast for later, so forgive me if it's mentioned already. the atrocities continued on past Unit 731 after one of the lieutenant generals in the unit went on after the war to create Japan's first commercial blood bank which grew to be a very large pharmaceutical company called Green Cross (basically was Japan's equivalent of Johnson & Johnson). the company knowingly, and with disregard to the known dangers, imported HIV infected blood for use in hospitals to treat hemophiliacs which caused the AIDS crisis in Japan in the late 1980's/early 90's and killed around 3,000 people. Masao Miyamoto wrote a great article about it called, "Mental Castration, the HIV Scandal, and the Japanese Bureaucracy".
@adamshaw9356
@adamshaw9356 6 жыл бұрын
Should've given Ishii a verbal assurance but then offed him anyways once they got the intel.
@adamshaw9356
@adamshaw9356 4 жыл бұрын
@@CavingIn2022 True
@tjpohorelsky4399
@tjpohorelsky4399 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent podcast gentlemen, very dark, but it should not be forgotten.
@zelepuza3518
@zelepuza3518 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait till people educate themselves and watch this
@t.marley5188
@t.marley5188 6 жыл бұрын
These people were ruthless! I don't understand how people can have such disregard towards another human being.
@ungface
@ungface 6 жыл бұрын
by not considering them human beings
@t.marley5188
@t.marley5188 6 жыл бұрын
ungface Makes sense. Just don't get why people like Ishi gotta be assholes
@wastedbread8036
@wastedbread8036 6 жыл бұрын
lmaooo
@yunyunpilled
@yunyunpilled 6 жыл бұрын
He wanted to win AT ALL COST
@mantexas9033
@mantexas9033 6 жыл бұрын
ShowMeState 38 the Japanese Shinto Buddhist system has a meditation practice to "annihilate the soul" and disassociate a person from their feelings of remorse, regret, guilt, sympathy, etc.
@eberry023
@eberry023 6 жыл бұрын
Dan Carlin's new Hardcore History episode Supernova in the East goes perfectly with this episode and came out two days later. He covers the decisions and the environment/culture that lead to WWII Japan. Hopefully one of these day you guys will be on one another's podcast.
@mtthwpnn
@mtthwpnn 2 жыл бұрын
Part of me is glad Ishi died from cancer, that he too felt disease slowly spread through his body. The other part of me shudders to think, a small part of the sadistic evil which possessed him has likewise touched me.
@robertgsmith5761
@robertgsmith5761 Жыл бұрын
Throat cancer was too good for him !
@legostory33
@legostory33 3 жыл бұрын
1:40:40 Probably the best speech Ive ever heard jocko say.
@thelikebutton3451
@thelikebutton3451 5 жыл бұрын
First video from Jocko and oh boy what a doozy. I think you got a subscriber for life. This lab is what I imagined hell to be like with all the inventive tourtures, what could be a worse experience? I can't imagine....
@Ivan-td7kb
@Ivan-td7kb 4 жыл бұрын
I read about this stuff when I was 14 years old on Wikipedia. It still traumatizes me up to this day.
@Saphire1993
@Saphire1993 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I totally did the same when watched documentaries about this back when I was like 12, suitably horrifying myself. Thankfully I didn't traumatize myself
@EvilConquering845
@EvilConquering845 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised I didn’t learn about Unit-731 In school 🏫 only online
@zelepuza3518
@zelepuza3518 3 жыл бұрын
Only if our schools taught us or mentioned this in the history books
@yaboy9584
@yaboy9584 6 жыл бұрын
Tough one to listen to, but completely understand why it is important. Thanks Jocko/Echo!!
@djmilad8382
@djmilad8382 2 жыл бұрын
How is this not taught in schools? I had never heard about this
@firehorse_44alpha-omega
@firehorse_44alpha-omega 6 жыл бұрын
We must remember the horrors of the past least we repeat the mistakes again in the present or in our future..... "Ne Oblie" NEVER FORGET......
@asai1244
@asai1244 6 жыл бұрын
100% agreed. War is sometimes a cruel necessity when evil, darkness, malevolence, and demonic spirits rise to power they indeed MUST BE STOPPED. Thank you, Jocko. You know the Father circuits.
@dismemberedlamb9104
@dismemberedlamb9104 3 жыл бұрын
We shall never forget.... thank you Jocko Willink for bringing the darkness to light
@Yami02blu
@Yami02blu 2 жыл бұрын
This one was rough. I remember reading the Raping of Nanking, and now listening to this,......this is just horrifying.
@Vexarax
@Vexarax 2 жыл бұрын
Jocko has an episode on Nanking. It's brutal to listen to, but they had to live it :c
@PaulisInclusion
@PaulisInclusion 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a podcast on the gulags in the soviet union. Also include what the kgb and stalin did to his own people. Kgb interrogation techniques were insane. Use the book gulag archipelago and do it similar to this podcasts.
@danielniffenegger7698
@danielniffenegger7698 3 жыл бұрын
When moral absolutes are rejected, science becomes its own ethic and these things are allowed to happen
@Grxmmace
@Grxmmace 6 жыл бұрын
Well done. This is appreciated. So hard to hear but it truly is necessary to know what our own are capable of and have done. Thank Jocko and Charles..
@Bateman61405
@Bateman61405 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t stop listening to this. I’m always curious about this sort of stuff. It’s haunting to hear about what humans are capable of but I can’t stop being intrigued and wanna hear about it
@Totustuus822
@Totustuus822 9 күн бұрын
Only half of my family survived the Japanese Occupation of the Philippines. I forgive, but what was done to the Filipinos and other civilizations under Japanese occupations won’t forget anytime soon. My father was born in 1941. His first memories were of the occupation. He didn’t have feelings, not the way most people do. He couldn’t love me or anyone else. It wasn’t his fault.
@googlehater6949
@googlehater6949 3 жыл бұрын
1:03:24 regarding the argument that the atomic bomb was necessary.... It's a shame we couldn't use it sooner.
@Btn1136
@Btn1136 6 жыл бұрын
New Dan Carlin touches on Imperial Japan if you want additional nightmares.
@eberry023
@eberry023 6 жыл бұрын
80% of the way through, goes great with this episode. Easily my two favorite war history podcasters.
@Sam-vt3tl
@Sam-vt3tl 3 жыл бұрын
Link?
@loganmeurer8116
@loganmeurer8116 6 жыл бұрын
IT astounds me the evil Man is capable of doing when desperate and following orders , this podcast really taught me a lot, and it shows that history is the greatest teacher of all and if we need it's warnings we can avoid the path of darkness and atrocity. Thank you again Jocko , the podcasts just keep getting better
@tonygunk6795
@tonygunk6795 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t find a new copy of the book. Only used and they are around $50 us
@KiLLA1740
@KiLLA1740 4 жыл бұрын
Theres a lot of blurred lines when it comes to evil in our everyday society. But this kind of stuff is just evil no matter what side you're on. If youre ever in a position to make these mistakes, this is the kind of stuff that haunts you til the end.
@CommandoMaster
@CommandoMaster 2 жыл бұрын
There are things much worse than war, and it's very necessary for people to realize that kind of evil is still living within people nowadays.
@codyroeder4193
@codyroeder4193 2 жыл бұрын
This was nuts need more of this so good and educational to know
@mariojorge9529
@mariojorge9529 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@lummergnu
@lummergnu Жыл бұрын
4 years later.....its still soo dark and depressing, as a veteran from the civil war in the former jugoslavia, the evil men will do knows no limit.
@alexisangulo3703
@alexisangulo3703 4 жыл бұрын
this video and podcast is criminally underrated
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