rights to permanently make yourself an abomination?

@@peterhunter6040 the abominable thing here is the fact that they let you have a KZfaq account

@@tensai_kodai it can’t be described in any other way. When you’re a man and cut off your genitals and walk round in a skirt fully believing you’re a woman, your place in society is very limited

@@peterhunter6040 You sound like one of those people in the 1930s that were upset Jews were around

@@soulknife20 I just follow the truth and not delusions. You sound like you have 0 testosterone

That was Ray Blanchard, not Harry Benjamin. Benjamin was a pioneer in the field of treating trans patients and helping them transition. Harry Benjamin was a good guy. Blanchard, who is still alive, is an asshole.

It's from Blanchard, not Benjamin I thought?

Buy you're right that it's bs.

@@NoCommentChick You're right, i Googled it. I couldn't remember which one of the two had which theory. I went ahead and corrected it.

Some people apparently still DO take it seriously, probably because it correlates with another, even older book they take seriously.

People with zero exposure to real trans people only go by what Tucker, Walsh, and Rogan tell them. They lack critical thinking skills to understand your experience and believe the absurdity that people just casually picking a gender because it's "cool"

Thank you for sharing this We love you ❤️

Even if not looking for “love”or any sort of comfort Your comment reminds me why it’s important to love and learn from everyone

The only thing the world should be expecting from you is that you live the happiest life you possibly can in whatever way you decide. I really wish you the best and never let bigots bring you down.

@@cul8terworld if you think it's just a fetish that's because you must have a huge fetish yourself that you want to restrain. Otherwise you would not be able to state that. The rest of us will just trust them to make their own decisions so they can be happy. You know? It's called freedom.

I knew when I was 7 🌈 💜🏳️‍⚧️💜🌈. I'm sorry you had to go through that. Peace, strength, love and many many blessings

So sorry this was your experience! 😪 As the Mom of a trans son who came out at 15 and was loved & accepted by both me and his Dad, I can't imagine our son being forced to be who he wasn't. He's 19 now and we are so glad we were there for him 100% in this 5 year long transition. I wish I could give you a Mama bear hug!!! 😔💟

De-transitioning and changing mind is an actual thing. Suffering gender dysphoria is not on parity as being gay.

@@lamcalli7349 it gives me hope knowing their are still people like you and your family around. Thank you for being you!

@@frankbarrie6785 Much appreciated!! It's been a long journey. Many signs all throughout his childhood! For us it was clear that he was just being himself & just wanted to be accepted for who he was. Our love & acceptance was a no brainer. But yeah, there are alot of parents out there who sadly lack insight & most of all empathy. ❤

And none of those folks were ever going to turn you gay, bi or trans either.

Glad to hear you have grown. Hearing these kinds of stories gives me hope.

Brilliant comment!

And this is why representation and visibility are important

@@anmolt3840051 absolutely agree. I was born in Iraq and for the longest time I found the sight of two men kissing to be off putting. After seeing them in media, seeing them in the streets and especially watching Rupauls drag race with my wife(lol) I just perceive it as a completely normal thing.

Most of them used to describe the disposal end of the human anatomy

Isn't it amazing how there's just no legitimate way for us to exist in this deeply unqualified, mediocre little man's mind? He doesn't have a consistent argument because he's just a stupid bigot

He also alluded that he thinks transitioning should never be legal for anyone regardless of age. He wants to force people to live horrible lives. He’s an absolute ghoul.

A case could be made that in your case it's "just rebellion against your parents" (Don't hate me, I am not making the argument. Grew up in a Christian conservative household, went to a private Christian school... Turns out I "like men" ) I hope your parents came to terms with who you are. Mine kinda did, but not fully because of religious reasons.

​@@oscargr_ And a case could be made that their parents mentally abused them.

@@oscargr_ A case could be made for many things that are contrary to my actual lived experience, since the people often making those cases have no interest in listening to the person who is lgbt and would prefer to invent excuses as to why they shouldn't be. Regarding my parents, my relationship is very fractured with them. I love them unconditionally but they sadly don't seem to feel the same. I hope in time it can be repaired, but we'll see I guess.

@X Oh Uuuhm.. I know people who make that case. Me reading a book won't make those people go away.

@X Oh Is that the kind of books your read?

This is my fav too! I heard it from Hasan multiple times and I'm waiting to pull it out the next time my parents start griping about a child who I used to babysit and is trans now. It's really none of their business but they bring it up almost everytime I see them, and nothing I've said so far has worked.

As a left-handed trans person I feel this one in so many ways

Except one is a delusion and the other is a clear scientifically backed mortorfunction

Oh Kurt.....you needed to be cuddled more as a child. Your parents failed you

@@tabbymoonshine5986 no my parents are fine thankyou for asking

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​@@icoraquecoraqueitaquequea8373 traditional life kink...

Tell you what I bet there's a certain kind of porn all over that man's computer.

Yes, from a young age I knew that I would be happier living as a girl. Way before I even knew that being trans was a thing.

@Bed of Fire or Decompose 'Hubbard became the first out trans woman to compete at the Olympics; she did not complete her lifts and won no medals.', until it happens stop making up hypothetical scenarios to get mad at. and if you don't want this to happen in the first place, advocate for trans kids rights to get access to puberty blockers

@Bed of Fire or Decompose that never happened lol. There was one trans woman ever who made the Olympics and she got last place in the weightlifting event. I’m sorry but you’ve been watching too much reactionary media. What you said is not real.

@Bed of Fire or Decompose statistically speaking, trans people are not "dominating" in sports. You get one good athlete that is then in the headlines for MONTHS and constantly used as a reason to ban trans people from sports. One good athlete. Then you look at other trans folks in those same sports and they're just not dominating like that one really good athlete.

@Bed of Fire or Decompose “I see you support trans rights, but what do you think about a thing that never happened?”

Did they apologize for past transphobic jokes? I heard they had but I wasn’t for sure

@@Kelis98 Essentially, at least for Jon Stewart. He made a self-referential joke, acknowledging he made shitty, reductive jokes about trans people in the past. He may not have explicitly apologized, but he did point out that his past behavior was unacceptable.

@@Kelis98 Yes, what Evil Sheep Master said. Honestly I kind of prefer it that way. It was a quick acknowledgement rather than a drawn out pity party apology. But then the whole rest of Jon's episode was fierce advocacy the way he does best! I don't think Stephen ever openly acknowledged his old jokes, but at least he stopped making them.

I find it surprising that they even made those jokes in the first place. Maybe they didn't mean to be transphobic but somebody told them or they realized it themselves. If they were actually transphobic, I don't think they would have made those jokes.

@@stevesteiner6844 I think the thing is that it was just part and parcel of the time. That's not an excuse or a justification, but it's a known fact that if everyone else around you is doing something, you're more likely to follow along. Society until the past 10 years tried to basically ignore the existence of trans people, and painted almost every single trans person as a pervert or a liar. Transphobia wasn't just acceptable in the 90s, it was entirely normal. For example, the ending of Ace Ventura - one of the most successful comedies of the 90s - featured Ace outing the villain as a trans woman (or a "man disguised as a woman" in the context of the movie), causing all of her colleagues to projectile vomit at the thought of it. Friends did a slightly better job with its trans character - Chandler's dad - and you could tell that they meant well, but the creators didn't know the difference between a trans woman and a gay male crossdresser/drag queen, so they used all of the terms interchangeably and arguably misgendered Chandler's dad repeatedly. Lindsay Ellis did a great video essay about how transphobia has been a constant presence in media throughout the past century, and with that context, it becomes far easier to understand why so many well-meaning liberal comedians happily made transphobic jokes without realising the harm that they caused.

It's a fetish with these guys they're obsessed with us but they don't see us as real people so they want to turn us into objects and then kill us. Genuinely no different than what Ted Bundy or any other serial killer used to do. For some reason our sick society allows them to engage in the planning and stalking part of the crime right out in the open

Different people can come to similar conclusions based on different observations. For many older people being trans overlaps with a sexual fetish, that is completely obvious, there's no debate.

@@olemew it certainly does for Blanchard and all of the perverts obsessed with the agp thing he made up to excuse his perversion

It's a lot easier to ruminate on hate, after all.

Especially Matt. The man is a weirdo.

Matt talks a lot about 16 year old pregnant girls and consent too. I honestly can't fathom how he claims others are groomers, and his audience have mini comas with the underage shit he spews out.

@@spencers4121 Yup likes Steven Crowder and his obsessions with the male version too.

Fetishization leads to violence

Respect, take care of yourself out there.

Gender dysphoria is old and practically universal. However, being trans because you feel like new pronouns is something else entirely. Even a few years ago, other trans people [gender dysphoria sufferers] were calling these people out as trans trenders and whatnot.

Your happiness is the most important thing. Wish you the best.

The thing is these arguments against trans are the exact same they used to use against gay ppl until it became unchic to be homophobic

@@wynoglia They are not the same. Some yes. But many aren't. For example, there is nothing equivalent to gender identity overriding the biological makeup of a person.

1000% this

If we don’t protect everyone equally we’re doing all this for nothing

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

What 'Progressives'?

@@yishnir I wouldn't say progressives in general, but I would say some people who otherwise think of themselves as progressive do have these prejudices, that's how I took it.

Indeed

dm. for a sec I thought you were insulting sam seder and calling Rogan "potato head"

@@_gnit Ha, ha well it wouldn't be all that crazy to call Rogan Potato head. That's funny.

Right? There are millions of things that a threat to humanity, but yes let’s focus on trans people

its also the onlly problem they think is solvable by them. they have nothing for the economy, nothing for education, nothing to offer in any other capacity other htan culture war issues like dis

I knew he was going to bring up Blanchard typology. It’s funny they think there’s no scientific explanation for being trans…. EXCEPT for the one guy in the 80s that’s been shunned by academia. He must be right !!

@@StacyAtoms conservatives are always finding the single debunked outlier study to defend all their points.

@@StacyAtoms that's what they do with literally everything.

It’s not actually. Go and read the end of gender. Written by a neuroscientist. Matt can be an bigoted idiot and autogynophelia can exist at the same time.

@@kelseastar950 yep, they celebrate some lone quack who provides cover for their bigotry.

Mt friend Matt is missing nothing he has a wife he loves and who loves him and 4 children with another 2 on the way he's doing good

Matt Walsh is a great human doing gods work

He's already missed everything cool, and we can only hope the second part arrives sooner rather than later.

18:47 I was like, "WTF?"

Agreed 100%. I would extend this to sports. Instead of having men's and women's categories for sports competitions and divisive debates about how trans athletes should be categorised, we should have just the one universal category for "open" competition where everyone competes against each other. No more segregation.

@@carlmarks8170 Absolutely, I didn't believe this when I first heard it but the separation of men and women in sports was pushed for after some fragile men had their egos wounded upon losing to women.

Then ask your mum to open an onlyfans account

The Open Society book was a great book! It made me a leftist in 2000something! I recently learned that a recent 2018ish book followed up! Of course the original book was by a great philosopher of Science around 1960! George Soros will always be an author in my mind!

I think looking at this like a violence versus non-violence dichotomy is not a good idea. I would rather just use the term trauma informed society. Or making an intersectional society or something like that. Because I would rather acknowledge racial and class And the history and continual discrimination related to those things. As well as the continual abuse related to that. Violence is just a tool and focusing on the tool isn’t really that useful you have to focus on the motive.

Matt Walsh' and his ilk generate the societal attention that these people really suffer from. It puts so much stress on their case.

@X Oh your pronouns can be anything

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Okay, but did you put her on puberty blockers or pursue a double mastectomy? Progressives like to frame this as a war of self expression against bigotry. We’re talking about medical standards of care that are seriously harming young people, and putting a lot of money in the pockets of pharmaceutical companies. Sam, characteristically, demonstrates hostility to any questioning of the narrative. And yes, there is obviously an element of social contagion here, particularly with young women, where angst over puberty is channeled into gender dysphoria by internet echo chambers and peer groups.

@@retaot3569 >putting a lot of money in the pockets of pharmaceutical companies barely any, if that actually was their goal they wouldn't require you to receive a psychiatric evaluation for months before starting any hormones. >We’re talking about medical standards of care that are seriously harming young people The medical standard that is harming me is that I had to wait until I was 18 to receive any treatment because my mother is a bigoted old woman. >And yes, there is obviously an element of social contagion here, particularly with young women Source needed. Abigail Schriers book is a pile of garbage "science", I recommend you watch Cass Eris' video series on it. >Okay, but did you put her on puberty blockers or pursue a double mastectomy Again, you need a psychiatric evaluation for that any of that. You're just fearmongering because you somehow believe that any underage person can just go to a surgeon and get a mastectomy or hormones. This is not how anything works.

@@retaot3569 We still cut off foreskins. Figure out how that's still okay first, if you're worried about harming young people. Then you could tackle these subjects.

The problem is if you let adults do this not only are you affirming a lie by saying this is real you are opening the door to people brainwashing children into making a very serious decision about something they are far far too young and ignorant to understand for fuck sake when your a kid if you had your way you'd eat chicken nuggets every day and mtn dew we don't let children do this everyday but the other thing ...... wow may god have mercy on the poor people who will suffer from this atrocity

If Matt is anything but a controlling manipulative abusive narcissist I have yet to see it

@@angelainamarie9656 yeah Have you ever seen where the daily wire weirdos like Shapiro, Walsh and Michael Knowles wives came on?? Their wives all admitted that they don’t know how to cook, clean or wash clothes and that when their wives go away or on vacation they wear dirty clothes and eat canned foods and garbage. My point is that all these dudes are just man children. They can’t take care of themselves and basically transitioned from having mothers to having wives and are big kids. They were all laughing about it like it was Normal. Walsh and all these weirdos are just fucking children who bad mouth actual adults. They are fucking children.

5-year old: I'm a bird Doctor: I can surgically attach wings to your back, but you can't tell your parents, they might not be "affirming" enough. ... Yep, I think they forgot to ask somebody.

Because what is going on is going to destroy not just the country not just the West but the planet if it continues this has consequences far reaching down the road

Exactly

Stunning and brave THANK GOD you were here to leave this comment

@@Sloimer it's almost like saying black lives matter so simple and non controversial that no one would have a counter argument to such a benign statement.

@@Sloimer cope harder dude

@@Sloimer is this owning the libs, or do you feel clever? Idk what the motivation is even

@@Sloimer bruh, you ain't slimer. You're just slime.

That's all the DSM is good for, it isn't a primary source.

@@itcouldbelupus2842 What does this mean? Genuinely curious - I thought it was considered authoritatve by clinicians for non-beaurocratic purposes?

@@FloatingErgonaut Only in the united states, which has a broken healthcare system that cares more about insurance than objective information and evidence based healthcare. I can't remember off the top of my head what the international version of the DSM is called, but that is a better one to refer to. It isn't based on insurance purposes, it strives to be impartial and based on universally accepted evidence. I can recommend a video that talks about mental health and references this textbook.

@@itcouldbelupus2842 Yes, this is a comprehensive response. Just my comment in so others on the periphery in the US would understand it's workings.

@@itcouldbelupus2842 It is called the International Classification of Diseases (ICD) and it is far ahead of the DSM 5. In 2018, the World Health Organization removed Gender Identity Disorder from its International Classification of Diseases (ICD-11) and moved all "trans" diagnoses from its phycological section to its medical section, appropriately renaming the three diagnoses “Gender Incongruity of: adolescence or adulthood; of childhood; and unspecified,” emphasizing the incongruity between brain (true gender) and genitalia (sex assigned at birth). *There are three diagnoses for gender incongruity because treatment options differ.

All the transphobes are ultimately making someone else's life about them because they really don't have a concept of minding their own goddamn business. Say I expect it's because degenerates like Matt and Ben were probably raised by wild animals or something because they don't have normal human being manners. I'm thinking they grew up in a pack of fcking jackals

I'm gonna break the news to you 5 ? You don't know shit at 5 you've just recently learned how to talk buy your grasp on the language is extremely limited but apparently you can understand what you've just said ? It's nonsense I'm sorry you were brainwashed by something and I know it won't mean much to you but I'm praying for you that you can get the counselling help you need before it's too late

You did well. I was 4 when i told my parents dad i was a girl 1984. The result was 2 exorcisem preformt on my, one catolik and one moslem exorcisem. Then followed 9 years of severe physical violence and abuse. I was able to escape at the age of 13 and have lived alone ever since. My family is me and my dog. Now I am 42 and still occupied by the devil. Haahahaha, no a joke aside I am still trans and live my life as best I can and fight for my happiness. I wish you with all my heart only the best.💖

@@kurtpunchesthings2411 LOL, I knew at 5, lived with it in silence until 25, then came out. I have sought counseling for many years. YOU are the one who was brainwashed. Being Transgender isn't the problem, Being Transphobic is. With many decades of Psychological and Medical Science to back it up, one being Transgender is a legitimate condition and is perfectly sane to transition.

Jakthebomb. I’m so sorry to hear your parents disowned you. Know you are loved by people who would die to have you for a child. I hope you’ve found support. Transbuddies is an awesome resource. They are in most places. I am proud of you ! You are amazing!

@@emytann7838 Good for you. Any parent would be lucky to have you for their child. I’m sorry for your negative, appalling experience. Know you are loved and there are folks who support you and fight for you even if you haven’t met them.

LMFAO! SOOOO TRUE!!!

True, both are very dumb!

One could argue that both are bizarre. Your example of a man believing he is a woman’s is not more or less bizarre than practicing Abrahamic religion.

@@valenciasaintilus9573 One could also say they are both social construct based on the human being inate ability to create abstract concepts.

@@ramonserna8089 yes one could say that.

@Phil Davidson Trans people have the same range of diversity in gender expression as cis people. Many effeminate boys are cisgender and grow up to be gay or bi men; many males, who are not notably effeminate, grow up to be trans women (just as many girls who are not notably effeminate grow up to be cisgender women). If a trans girl is a tomboy, her behaviour will not be notably effeminate compared to a cis boy's, and like many 'masculine' cis girls, she will not infrequently grow up to be attracted to women. Such children are not likely to end up in a gender therapist's office until they're old enough to understand themselves. If you apply the same rules to trans people that you apply to cis people, everything is very straightforward and there is no need to introduce pseudoscientific 'types' of trans people. If you look at the actual diversity in the trans community, Blanchard's types fall to pieces. The actual diversity is very clearly a spectrum, just as it is with cis people. The typology is only convincing if you already believe it exists--you can force anyone into one category or another if you try hard enough. Littman's 'Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria' isn't even a theory, let alone a type, and isn't supported by any existing evidence.

Transphobes are sexual predators. Their obsession with trans people's genitalia leads to violence which is why I am armed. People like Matt Walsh and Joe Rogan beating each other off online objectifying trans people only leads to objectifying stalkers kicking my door in and trying to kill me out of embarrassment.

​@Phil Davidson Gender _identity_ is not about behaviour. People have an innate orientation toward their gender. This orientation influences their behaviour, but it does not determine it, and their behaviour does not determine their gender identity. A man is not a woman just because he likes wearing dresses. A typical trans child who has her identity affirmed and is allowed to express herself naturally will develop behaviours indistinguishable from typical cis girls. If you identify as a man, then you want people to see you as and relate to you as a man, but that doesn't mean you feel compelled to engage in hypermasculine behaviour. As long as people see you as a man there is congruence between your identity and the identity people ascribe to you. It's that congruence that matters. A cis woman who considers herself a tomboy still wants and expects to be seen as a woman even though she may be engaging in stereotypically masculine behaviours. She may demand and expect to be treated with the same respect that you show a man, but she will not appreciate being _mistaken_ for a man. A trans man, by contrast, _wants_ to be seen as a man. This need for congruence is why pronouns are important. Generally speaking, people will force themselves to conform to gender norms to the extent required to achieve this congruence and avoid social censure. The vast majority of cis men and women achieve congruence automatically and effortlessly through physical cues (appearance), so they can take their gender identity for granted and never think about it. (Or even be aware that they have one.) Some will be criticized for not being masculine or feminine enough and try to change themselves to better conform to norms. Trans people who have been forced to go through an unwanted puberty typically have to work much harder to achieve congruence and avoid social censure. Which is why it may appear that they're "reinforcing gender norms." But they're only doing what they have to to survive, and their behaviours are not intrinsically different from the behaviours of cis people. "Feeling like a woman" is an awareness of congruence between oneself and other women; women are "the same" as oneself and men are "other." A person's gender orientation dictates who they instinctively turn to as role models for emulation, who they see as peers, and who they see as rivals. Trans women evaluate themselves in terms of other women, want to "be" like other women, and don't pay much attention to cultural expectations about men (unless other people try to compel them to pay attention through gender policing). Iow, trans women are cognitively oriented like cis women. At some point, they become aware of this congruence consciously and may say they "feel like a woman" to try to communicate this awareness to others. Erotic crossdressing (AGP) is a kink, not a 'type' of trans person. Many trans women have never engaged in it; many cis men have engaged in it without developing any interest in transitioning. It's no surprise, however, that these two groups have been conflated because they are superficially similar. This is like the way people often conflate drag queens with trans women even though most aren't. _Some_ teens may be mistaken about their identity, but the vast increase in people transitioning is mostly about increased social acceptance and improved medical interventions. If something that was forbidden is suddenly acceptable, then all those people who were afraid to engage in it while it was forbidden will suddenly come out of the woodwork, won't they? And if a technology suddenly drastically improves, it changes the number of people who embrace it. Right? (That's what's happening with puberty blockers.) In any case, no one should transition without consulting a specialist first and educating themselves. No one should believe, for example, that being trans is just about gendered behaviour. The phenomenon Littman should be studying is Rapid Onset Transphobia, where completely mistaken notions about trans people spread like wildfire through social media. 95% of what anti-trans activists say about trans people is wrong, but hardly anyone infected by their misinformation seems to care that it isn't true. (Matt Walsh is a good example.) People infected by the transphobia brain rot have lost family members, lost jobs, and ruined their reputations. They have also harmed innocent people in the process (by, for example, making bomb threats to hospitals and getting state governments to criminalize essential healthcare). If there's a social contagion raging out of control, it's anti-trans rhetoric.

​@Phil Davidson Thanks for reading all of that. 🙂 It's really not like body dysmorphia, though some trans people do have body dysmorphia as well. Body dysmorphia is an obsession with one or more physical traits, along with the belief that other people are equally aware of these "flaws," and the distress associated with that. Some trans people do develop BD just as some cis people do. But for a trans person, physical "flaws" (like having breasts, a high-pitched voice, or no facial hair if you're a man, or a penis, a low-pitched voice, and facial hair if you're a woman) are "flaws" which ARE obvious and objectionable to other people. These "flaws" lead to real social consequences, like discrimination and violence. So the medical interventions trans people get are not infrequently at least partly an attempt to avoid discrimination and violence. This is very (very) different from BD, which is primarily a cognitive problem (the "flaws" are generally not apparent or significant to other people and don't lead to negative social consequences). Trans people do also get medical interventions to feel better about themselves, to improve their appearance, etc., and some do experience a deep sense of disconnect with their bodies which can only be corrected by surgery (but that could be neurological; it's unclear at this point). There are certain similarities between the two (like the role of cultural beauty standards and the dysphoria one experiences about one's body) but, on the whole, it would be wrong to think that what trans people experience is a kind of BD. They are simply two different things. I'm sure the majority of people with "AGP" do participate in the trans community. And some of them, of course, are trans. I have no problem with that, and I hope we can create a safe space for them. What I object to is the attempt by some people to equate being trans with having a sexual fetish. Not because fetishes are inherently bad, but because it invalidates the identities of trans people, which are just as real and valid as the identities of cis people.

@Phil Davidson Ah, yes, it's a cognitive feeling, and those are sort of hard to describe. Many/most cis people have trouble accepting that trans men/women are men/women because it "feels wrong" to say that they're a woman. It violates their experience and understanding of men and women. This is a cognitive feeling that makes them reject the claims of trans people. But it doesn't feel like anything in particular except "wrong." And this feeling can be so strong people will literally spend all their time online arguing with trans people about their identities. These cognitive feelings of rightness and wrongness guide our thinking all the time, but they're not really emotions or "sensations" in the usual sense (like a taste, smell, tactile sensation, etc.). Trans people have this feeling of "wrongness" when they're misgendered. (Being misgendered also involves feelings of invalidation and rejection, though, so it's a much stronger emotional reaction.) By contrast, trans people have a feeling of "rightness" when correctly gendered. This is what a trans woman means when she says she "feels like a woman." She's not referring to some specific feeling that all women are supposed to share (universal feelings like that don't exist); she's referring to the fact that being understood as a woman "feels right" to her because it's congruent with her identity. Some trans people have feelings of "wrongness" about specific body parts (genital dysphoria), but not all trans people do, and this is where the analogy with BD is probably strongest.

Reality dictates your sex, but depression and mental illness can be enforced through social conditioning. As trans writer Andrea Long Chu said, "Sissy porn did make me trans.’"

@@olemew well it didn’t for me, weasel

@frankmcmanus your correct

@@7GSC251 you mean you watched it without affecting you or, or you came out as trans without watching it.

Your story is an example of 1 kid who was strong enough in their beliefs to not let their mentally ill mother convince them they’re trans. But it’s also proof that these mentally ill parents exist and do try to trans their kids. A lot of 4-5 year olds are VERY impressionable and every kid wants attention and love from their mothers, so that shit does happen. I think your example proves the opposite point than you thought it did before sharing it.

I had a friend growing up down the street who dressed up as princess peach all the time. He's gay today. Doesn't mean you're trans.

Liking 'female' things doesn't mean you are trans. Maybe you are. Maybe not. Just let people be what they want and do what they want.

Your parents are normal cis heteros, you can be very proud of them.😉

@@philosphorus right! If she would have grown out of it or whatever else. My perception was opened to any outcome. And my parents thought me that it was possible and be thoughtful about it.

His

He didn't mean all. I'm sure there's one example out there of this.

For many older people being trans overlaps with a sexual fetish, that is completely obvious, there's no debate.

You know I remember Rush Limbaugh screeching about that very same thing and then complaining that if you don't get it then all the sudden there's the, and he used the words "rape police." I found out about that posthumously so I couldn't go around smearing it all over every single thing that man said but I sure would have liked to

IIRC that book was talking about inappropriate sexual acts the consent part was not the problem

I saw a video the other day. It was a woke mom telling her 1-month old baby "Please don't touch me, Im not consenting to this". But it's the conservatives that have lost their mind.

Facts

I'm glad I was born in Michigan and was able to receive care here.

You're as delusional as white men that identify as black women. Are you really not mentally capable to mention any ways in which this could affect you or your family directly?

So all those teachers bragging about grooming kids are just figments of our imagination? Get real.

@X Oh You really got the victim complex down. You're the one destroying womanhood and trying to completely restructure society to suit your personal feelings.

@X Oh I've seen the video, so it has happened, groomer. You can deny it all you want, but trans grooming is as real as the videos show it is. I guess you missed the part where we now have to allow people to put something other than "male" or "female" on their driver's license, passports, birth certificates, etc. I guess you missed the part where men can now enter women's beauty pageants, compete against women in sports and use their bathrooms/locker rooms. I guess you missed the part where now people can choose which jail or prison they go to and what pronouns everyone must address them by. I guess you also missed the whole new welfare program San Francisco is rolling out specifically for poor trans people. Yeah, no big deal. Trans people just want to be able to live their lives. They don't want to impose on anyone else whatsoever.... I'm not sure why you're bringing up little kids and crushes, but it's not surprising how fixated you are on kids being a trans groomer and all. People like you belong in prison and on the sex offender registry.

Conservatism needs an out group to fearmonger about and always will. Anyone can be a target. It's really about justifying power structures.

Then how do you explain a 4000% increase in trans people? There is definitely a social contagion element going on here.

Just imagine if every time Matt Walsh used the word "transgender" it was replaced by "christian" e.g. these people with their [CHRISTIAN] agenda must be stopped.... There are various categories of [CHRISTIAN] people. There are those aged 5 who say they are [CHRISTIAN]. That's 1000% the parent who decides they're going to do that to their child. Because no child even knows what that is.... et cetera....

Would be great if Elon Musk applied a special filter to auto-correct Matt Walsh's bigoted tweets with words such as "christian", "religion" and "prayer"

The same can be said about gay marriage. Why do Christians care so much about it? No one is forcing them to do it.

I never understood the hate growing up with gays in the 80's and 90's, at first I never understood why people hated them. And then as I became older and understood what "gay" really meant, I was like why the F*ck do I care or others care how consenting adults live their lives. It was also funny growing up in the south, listening to all these conservative rednecks. And how they wanted to be left alone to live their lives, and the government and others had no right judging how they lived.

And abortion. No one is forcing anyone. If anything we applaud their choice of over-hyped motherhood, esp if a white woman (I am, so can speak to that). You are celebrated and often treated like a goddess, if pregnant, but I hide my abortions because people will really, really judge. Even doctors. They need to know my medical history, but I don't think I have been honest once, because I'm afraid it will affect the care I receive. Life in the Fascist States of America...

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Trans wrongs

Lying on the internet doesn’t work anymore, dummy.

What you said there is very important, i lived it. The transition point where one who is kinky can define that its not a kink. They can point to that one fact and say ‘its not a kink’ this is important. One can come from many kinks and realize this important fact, i came from ABDL. Its no longer a sexual gratification, it is a mental one and an emotional one. That will make you eventually stop persuing the kink and start exploring your gender, many times secular from sexuality. I learned that there was a whole world i was missing separate from just sex, or just dominance and submission. What about just going to the grocery store as a woman or being a friend? I took that spiro, i even had an operation so i wouldnt have to take the spiro anymore. My sex drive left forever, and she was still there. She had not lost one bit of her girly sparkle, an infinite wellspring of girlishness. I will grow into an old and gnarled woman, i signed up for all of that. Osteoporosis, varicose veins, jowls, i did sign up to experience that aging into being an old woman, its better than being an old man thats fer sure. Old male bodies just continue to get grosser and harder to clean up.

Children are not transitioning at 5. You are not a medical doctor and you clearly do not have an understanding of the process.

I think you’re referring to me. I watched it and think you people are more insane. Come back to reality

It's interesting for people who think this approach to politics - you know, the two dudes sitting at a bar approach, is acceptable when done seriously. 0 recognition of all that's at stake. Just two dudes, ya know?

People with a sick objectifying fetish for Trans people get off on listening to people like Joe Rogan verbally masturbate while he talks about us I'm sure

@@FloatingErgonaut when it leads to some of the dudes fans calling death threats into Children's Hospitals it's more urgent than that that's actually stochastic terrorism. Charles Manson was also just a dude who sat around and talked about starting a race war and we put that son of a bitch on death row for that

I love big ugly men who wear dresses. ❤

@@hankschrader7050 you do you boo. Whatever gets you hard.

Don't pretend this is an oppressed group and nobody was "standing up" for them. Sam's position is the mainstream position.

@@olemew I’m not pretending anything. I’m trans. I live every day being trans. You’re the one pretending you know what it’s like being trans. If you don’t think trans people are oppressed, I challenge you to go one month dressed as the opposite gender in public. I know you would never do that, because you know instinctively it’s scary…why is it scary, though? If you can answer that, you’ll start to understand what oppression feels like.

Ew

That must really suck.

Remember: objectification and paternalism are very important to these types. It can be argued that and misanthropy (as an actual belief about the world and people) are fundamental to their worldview.

Lets be honest, Matt and others just don't see children as people. They do not "choose" anything, and are just outgrowths of their parents to them. No wonder they get hysterical about college turning kids into trans leftist marxist maoists or whatever the fuck they pretend is going on, their kids are changing and growing as people without their supervision.

Another argument is, men are not women, women are not men. Most people will agree if they stop even just 5 minutes to think about it.

You misplaced the first part of the air quotes you should slide it over 3 words

Don’t reject your biological self. That’s who you are. If you reject that, you will be rejected by others. You have a disorder, and it can be beaten.

@Swalay412 57-year-old cis lady here.... welcome, sister! I wish you alllllll good things in your journey ✨️ 🙏 ❤️

You're not welcome in my presence, dawg

Don’t sweat the negativity. It’ll take a while but eventually people will little by little get used to it. Once you accept yourself for who you know you are it will no longer matter what people think. God Bless you.

That's called transhumanism.

Who tf remembers being 3

I'm sorry about you man

Liar

Okay so since you have a great memory, how old we're you when you first got molested? 3? 4?

@@camelrodriguezjnr that took a dark turn

Since when is normal family life a kink

@@kurtpunchesthings2411 I'm guessing you have not heard of this "trad-wife" fad that's going around

@@anmolt3840051 no sounds really fucking stupid

@@kurtpunchesthings2411 It is

@@anmolt3840051 taking someone’s last name is not a kink it’s just a cultural practice that not all cultures even participate in. Why would you even take it to that place?

You got it all wrong. Some people lie about experiencing that to exploit the system. For those who don't lie, and for arguments sake I would accept that's the vast majority, what he's saying is you will never be the opposite sex, just like you will never be of a different race, different species, or younger. Affirming mental illness has never been the way to go.

Both. But I suspect more the latter and if I had to speculate there are some issues of some kind there. Nobody claiming to be some kind of "trad" theocrat demands to use a stun gun on another guy's bare bottom without there being issues of some sort.

It definitely feels like there’s more to it than what we see on the surface level.

Both

It's absolutely both.

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@@XGamin1 you've got Twitter for all your slur needs pal

@@ravenpaine87 Bro, I don't use that garbage.

Sorry which T-slur

@@MrHamtits the slur used for trans people.

After your an adult I could care less what gender u are

No the fetishists are people like Matt and Joe Rogan who can't stop thinking about us and can't stop thinking about what's in our pants. I've had a fetishist get right up to the point of kicking my front door in while screaming in a drunken meth fueled rage that he was going to rape me and then murder me and then burn down my apartment. Having read years before about the psychological cycles that a serial killer like Ted Bundy went through it was incredibly terrifying to realize that that literal thing was happening in front of me. It's even more terrifying to realize that there's a whole internet subculture of openly fantasizing about murdering us that just sits out there like a fcking stink on the world

We have trans people publicly telling that sissy porn made them trans. Scientific papers talking about "true self vs wrong body" ideology IS junk science. Papers lying about their findings and the real-life consequences of gender theory IS junk science.

The reason trans folk upset some "straight" men more than gay men do is that they find themselves attracted to some of them - as you might with any other attractive woman - whereas they have no attraction to gay men who primarily present as men. IMO, this creates extreme anxiety in some, especially those who may have issues regarding their own sexuality. I think that is also the reason behind the higher incidence of violence against trans women - perpetrated by men who can't deal with their own attraction and seek to "get rid of" the source of their extreme anxiety.

@@ZZSmithReal I mean I don’t even think it’s even THAT deep, that would be a pretty good guess but some of these people seem just controlling, they want to concern themselves with abortion, concern themselves with the lgbtq+ community, concern themselves with race issues, concern themselves with the low/middle class, ignore the upper class. Like all of that just screams “I want it how I want it and you should have no say”. Yes some of these trans people are absolutely gorgeous lol 😂, but I don’t even think they care like that to them I feel like they are actually disgusted at the idea that people DONT hate them

It's all about degeneracy and perverting God's creations. In their mind, God created men (penis-havers) and women (vagina-havers) and each has a specific role to play in society, and any deviation from that is a perversion. An insult to God. And they don't take too kindly to their god being insulted. It's really as simple as that. Same anti-gay stuff they've been saying for years, but being publicly anti-gay in 2022 is much less acceptable than it used to be, so they've had to find a new boogeyman. There are others who are just ignorant and just think it's "too weird" or whatever. They can usually be swayed with good arguments and positive trans representation in media. But the degeneracy folk... they're too far gone.

I imagine it mostly comes down to conservatives, especially deeply religious ones, having insane ideas about how gender roles in society should work and having an eternal obsession with other people having nasty, sinful sex. When you want a rigid social order of men owning their inferiors, i.e. women, having society accept people changing categories ruins everything. I'm not entirely sure what kind of sinful sex they have in mind when it comes to trans people, and I'm happy keeping it that way, but considering they constantly bring up sexual perversion whether it be bathroom rapists or child groomers or autogynophiles it's pretty clear they find something deeply sexual about transgender people which makes them angry. Like their hatred of gays they rarely come out and say what they actually don't like about transgender people, which is why you get this never ending circus of absurd rationales. I'm not sure if they even admit to themselves why they really don't like trans people.

​@@ZZSmithReal For sure after seeing the first season of Euphoria, ... It's a struggle with their own sexuality. I think as the other two comments state, it's control and "traditional" values which again is really control over society. It's pretty delusional too, considering trans are a very small community but what do I know

The problem is that society will then say "if you aren't suffering hard enough we aren't helping you", and also "you're mentally ill so we're going to lock you up instead of helping you". Both situations kill us. It's better not to medicalise trans existence.

@@PlatinumAltaria It's not the act of existing that's being medicalized, it's literally referring to significantly elevated mental distress. It's comparable to depression, only with the specific cause of a physical and mental gender disconnect. If you (you in general, not literally YOU) are a trans person that does not have major mental distress with your state of being, then you do are not suffering from dysphoria. Like literally all mental health conditions, they are only considered a disorder (or whatever you would like to call it) if it causes negative impacts on the person afflicted. For example, if you absolutely have to flick your lights twice when you park, but this causes no issues for you in life, it would not be appropriate to say you have OCD. You simply have a habit. Probably a much better comparison would be Imposter Syndrome. To say that gender dysphoria should not be listed in the DSM is to say that this distress should be considered fine. It shouldn't be considered fine. It should be aided, like pretty much any mental distress.

Thank you for the comment. Came here to say the same thing. Unfortunately Emma's reluctance to acknowledge the intention of the DSM with quick Google search verifying the dx without context does a disservice to destigmitizing mental health conditions. Also my criticism extends to Sam's understanding that the DSM is not "diseases" by diagnoses which is a collection of symptoms categorized for the purpose of providing care. Part of giving a dx is for insurance companies to reimburse, remove gender dysphoria from the DSM, then would people need to pay out of pocket for gender affirming care?