erinbickler cgi is definitely not lazy, takes hours and hours to make those effects it’s just not used well all the time

more like a wheelchair and a feeding tube...

People complaining about CGI are just boomers yearning for nostalgia.The world is our oyster with CGI,almost anything can be created.Give it another decade or 2 time and it'll be indistinguishable from live action.

@@deansandrice4853 You may be right in a decade or 2, but now it looks about as realistic as the animation in Who Framed Roger Rabbit, hence the rampant disgust.

@@deansandrice4853 I'm Gen X. Taking a great story line and adding CGI ruins so many promising horror movies. Sinister and The Grudge immediately come to mind. That's why Ju On: The Grudge will always be the better movie. Hell, the claymation in the original IT is more impressive than the CGI in most movies from the 2000's to present date.

He also said he wanted to draw comics, but doesn't ever know anything beyond general knowledge, so it's hard to tell with him sometimes.

dude i 100% agree. i dont even fuck with rob zombie like that but this was a great one.

121bham are you kidding me ? Neil kept interrupting joe every time it was annoying as fuck this is just two guys talking and having fun not debating and interrupting

121bham lol. Good one

r/whoosh

Yes I was thinking the same

Hell yeah! Ash & his boomstick on Rogan would be groovy

With Rob zombie there too

I respect Autolycus too much to see him here Yuk

Hell yeah and maybe mike bishop from GWAR

FAX

After The EXORCIST they should have stopped making Horror. That Movie is the most disturbing movie ever made.Period.

Except all of Rob's movies! They're horrible and boring.

Ted Ryan have you watched any of his films? He’s one of the few real horror guys left, he actually gets the genre

Rob Bottin (spelling) did The Things special effects. Much better FX artist

The exorcist and Dawn of the dead had me screwed up for a long time , Loved it

Surprisingly, so does Joe.

People wouldn't expect it but Rob is an intelligent dude and very interesting. I feel like I could talk horror with him all day

It's a mystery how his movies are so lame though >_

Ironic considering the movies he makes are not that good. But yes he does at least have appreciation for classics and history of horror

@@CleverGirlAAH Not true at all

Crowley 🤘🤘🤘

I know, right? I'm exhausted 😴 and I was juuusst about to go to bed, and then I saw this video. Damn it Rob Zombie.... 😒 I have to get up an be reasonably functional in about 5 hours, so I really SHOULD be in bed now, but no. I'm gonna be watching KZfaq instead. Thanks a lot Mr. Zombie.... 🤨

Same here :-). All ready to turn in and then see this one come up on top of my screen. Damn!!!!:-) LOL

Rob by himself? Eh. The two together? Timeless

I'm glad I'm not the only one, and I have to be up in 4 hours, but it's fucking Rob Zombie

Erica and Aiden. Exactly same here....tired af....but now I can't sleep, have to listen to this. Damnit. Losing precious sleep. Rob Zombie is turning me into..........a zombie.

The original gave me nightmares as a kid. The remake gave me nightmares as an adult.

Yeah. And it actually nails that Lovecraftian horror theme of having an antagonist that was unknowable and virtually impossible to beat. Even at the end it wasn’t clear if the Thing was dead or not.

One of my favorites, the prequel was also good

Anything by John Carpenter is worth a watch. Hands down my second or third favorite director, miss work like his so much.

Agreed!! Great movie ... Really weird as well

Yeah Spielberg knew how to frame scenes so that the CGI effects looked as good as possible, especially when combined with all the great practical makeup and animatronics. Modern movies use CGI as a go-to resource when it really should be the last resort to make a scene work.

@@CarloisBuriedAlive agreed!! I always feel the real reason old movies were scary is because they are real! Real person or machine coming at you!

Agree on 100%. And the stories in the new ones suck. Those movies just don't have any kind of appeal somehow. Just a CGI commercial wankfest.

I’ve always believed this. The original had animatronics and CGI I think that’s why

Recent CGI is usually animated really badly so it's not the actual visuals/details (although the lighting is also bad and jarring) but more the fact that the animals etc. Are overly animated and unnatural. It doesn't give a feeling or sense of weight. Jurassic Park (1993) textures admittedly look dated now but it's the animation and cinematography thats top notch and ultimately makes it more believable than Jurassic World.

MrTruboy Clearly he knows more than nothing

@MrTruboy he's trying really hard on this one

Cringing listening to Joe sound like such a horror-movie poser.

My same reaction

Horror Kingpin It was the cape and I thought that decision was made for him after he died

He also would answer his door on hollween high as f and dressed as Dracula scaring the shit out of the kids.

It's just crazy to me how a lot of people only know him for that one role, because he was a really gifted actor. He stole Son Of Frankenstein as Ygor, probably the best performance in any of those old monster movies, and elevated Ghost Of Frankenstein with that same character. Black Cat, The Raven, White Zombie, Island Of Lost Souls, Mark Of The Vampire, etc. He was in like 100 movies but most of the time they just didn't know how to utilize him.

vanilla Gorilla that’s funny asf

@@jerrygodeep4787 watch the movie Ed wood Martin landau won the academy award for his roll as him.

I just watched house on haunted hill last night and it was incredible

Yes you’ve listed the dream team right there, with both Lon Chaney and his son too. You should check out the movies where Karloff and Legosi star together. It’s a treat watching them perform against one another

Id like to argue that Frank and the wife were the real monsters in that; not pinhead. Really frank feeds on humans and pinhead feeds on frank. Human(innocent) beats pinhead.

hex warp from what I gather from the original movie is that ‘pinhead’ and the cenobites are really quite neutral and don’t really pass judgement on what is ‘good’ and ‘evil’ like a hero or villain is. They’re simply scions of the world they’re from. Of pain equaling pleasure. To them, they have no understanding of doling out punishment as retribution, simply as a function. If you seek out the configuration, you must have some sense of knowing what you’re doing. Don’t come to the party if you’re not ready to dance (so to speak)

The only thing bad with those movies was the special effects. The core and the acting. So awesome. Sense of dread and hopelessness and selfishness.

I would add that Hellraiser probably has the best horror film score of all time.

The edge of Hellraise was that the bad guy was a mere human, not the Cenobites/Priest (aka Pinhead). Same goes for Night Breed which is my personal favorite. The Director's Cut would be perfect were it not for that god awful singing performance during the LSD scene. 😑

I'll be using this analogy, thank you. Best ever worded

Do you think the practical special effects on the original jurassic park looks fake?

@@cajonbru Jurassic Park set an exceptionally high bar for both practical and digital FX. it set a new standard for digital, once since surpassed.

@@edisongirard yeah but you said practical looks fake, and sometimes it does, but there are some awesome practical fx that just looks crazy realistic or gruesome like some death scenes from 80s gore movies or monsters like the one from 'the Thing' (1984) for example

@@cajonbru of course I am generalizing. there are some crazy real looking practical fx out there. they've gotten better at it.

Agree 100%

Loved that as a kid. Was on at Thanksgiving every year.

Supposedly one guy poopt his pant

Michael Cauterucci he actually Sharted. They made it out as if he poopt his pant in the official story but in reality it was a Shart. I was shocked when I originally heard that a guy poopt his pant but was let down to realize that they dramatized the reports. Sadly it was only a Shart. 😕

@@MC_1993 supposedly

@@TheRealLiquidTrip😂🤣😄 I really needed a good hard laugh. Thank you for that comment. Bless your Heart. I have had one of those weeks. 👍

HiDesert004 wow it’s crazy if we put ourselves in that time I’m sure shit was too scary worse than anything we can see because we’ve seen it all

That's my favorite Price movie

Yes classic horror is a great topic

Maybe Rob hasn’t seen much of the recent horror films like those. But I can be speculating.

​@adamshows1142 i bet he has seen all the horror movies

It makes a great double feature with "The Duellists" (1977)

I remember my parents going to see that in the theater. The cinematography & music alone make me love it. Sad though.

The Nazi skeleton shock troops interrupting The Muppet Show scared the hell out of me. 😨

Yeah the scene where it’s following him up the escalator in the subway

The special effects are still incredibly remarkable to this day, same with Carpenters The Thing

That and carpenters thing might be my favorite 80s horror flicks. (Though american werewolf was not a straight horror flick because it made me laugh at times).

That's a really good movie. I really enjoyed it as well.

I always love that when I showed these early films to my nephew aged four and five he always got them and had empathy for Kong, Frankenstein and The Creature From The Black Lagoon. The humans were always the bad guys and the so called monsters the victims.

My Mom was scared to have me because of Rosemary's Baby haha.

@@BootlegFightVideo that movie is such a buzzkill. 😅

Texas chainsaw massacre 74 is The greatest

The Thing and American Werewolf in London and the Omen series… food for thought

Great scene....no music just the guy running alone in the subway.... if you watch closely when he jumps on the escalator it looks like he mangles his ankle pretty good before the werewolf shreds him

That guy played Jabba the Hutt's manservant Bib Fortuna in Return of the Jedi a few years later.

Yeh and the couple who go round the back to scare their friends, pretty much every death scene was awesome, jacks too on the moor. The moor bit scared the shit out of me as a kid 😂

That was one of my favorite parts of that movie. The transformation and of course the end with the wolf running amok in London being the other two.

James Bellflower Yeh when the policeman goes in the cinema and see it eating someone, the whole movie was a classic. The dreams David had, jackk coming back with David’s victims

ItsNikoHimSelf 😆 That’s the best & now my favorite!

I feel bad that I lol'd so hard on my own comment, while writing this.

Yeah that’s my top horror movie of all time!

@@jwprimetime9795 Good choice :)

Like Spielberg said, Kubrick found the ”fail safe button”. You stay glued to his films even after seeing them multiple times

I agree. There some great films that can be a slow burn but it feels like it flies by because the atmosphere has so much tension. There's so much happening within the silence. Like the shining and even newer films like the witch and hereditary.

Nice

Barbarian Libertarian Legend was a great movie. Beautiful to watch, the scenery was magical. One of my favorites.

Agreed 110%! I was blown away by it when I was a kid watching it in the theater and I can still get swept up in the beauty of that film decades later. Tim Curry as the Lord of Darkness pretty much owned that movie. He even had a strange sort of sex appeal which is damned hard to pull off with all that make-up.

I always forget that Ridley Scott directed Legend. I guess that's probably because the first two things that pop into my mind when I think of the movie are Tim Curry's excellent performance and Tom Cruise with his messed up teeth prior to his fame and Scientology.

Its one of my favourates too cause i like setting aswell in antartica but they still have quite a nice setup a bar and pool table and stuff

"The Thing" is one of my all time favorites and that's coming from a huge Horror movie collector. I was so very surprised much later to find out that this movie didn't do well in the theaters. I re-watch it about once every year.

It's just impossible to create the same effect with CGI, physical make up and props are better even after 40 freaking years. Same goes for the fly and the evil dead.

Yes, but he knew how to play it.

dios bananos Sure. However, that’s not what I was commenting on. They were discussing how he delivered the dialogue, and he spoke deliberately, like they were discussing, because he couldn’t speak English.

@@JimBaLimBus PULL THE STRING

James Donnelly He could not speak English when Dracula was made. He did learn it over time. Nice try though! 🤙

James Donnelly good ol’ Google and it’s contradictory information. 🤦‍♂️ Have a good one.

They gave him the opportunity to remake The Munsters and sh!t the bed

Nah, hell just cast his wife to play everyone in the film

Romero is severely underrated in modern-day cinema speak

he ruined Halloween and then gave it aids, no one wants to touch it ever again.

@@theduke6399 There's two more halloweens coming out, what do you mean?

@@Seph_vision u seem to have aids....

@@theduke6399 no but you're in a coma

Rileyb reals to be fair, I didn’t hate what he did. It just didn’t need to be Halloween, it could’ve been about a new killer. But of course it wouldn’t have made so much money, so there’s that.

The Bauhaus architecture is such a key feature.

Karloff's entrance in the 1931 Frankenstein is still chilling

Dura Saxon why are you signing off on your comments 😂😂😂

Dude, I love mel Brooks man. Blazing saddles and young Frankenstein are my faves. Along with history of the world.

Take it from me. Doing drugs with ur dad is not always the best route.

James Bellflower fair point man, wasen't being too serious about it

@@andlidearmadta9680 I know. Not trying to bust your balls just yeah that is a bit of a sore subject for me. Wasted alot of years with that shit.

@@jbellflower83 depends on the dad I guess..

@@jbellflower83 lol

O yeah it's awsome

First flick I saw in the theater was Return of the Jedi. I was three, and yes it changed my life. Been a huge fan since. Second was E.T. That flick also still holds up. Got to see it in theaters a few years ago for the 35th anniversary, and it did not disappoint.

Ex Machina is a fantastic movie.

@@Garrus1995 One of my favorites. Up there with Alien. Coincidentally they also mentioned it in this clip as well.

Joe brings that movie up all the time

Honestly the CGI sucks/ruining movies bit is ignorant hyperbole. It really depends on studio/production/execution. There are plenty of flicks with amazing CG that you wouldn't ever even know was CG unless it was pointed out. Subtle little things here and there, I'm not talking about big, spectacle type CG. That can go both ways, tbh.

Which scene?

Thought he was going to say Toxic Avenger.

@@BootlegFightVideo never heard of toxic avenger. How old is the film ? Would you recommend it ?

@@raymondortiz085 It was low B movie quality from a studio famous for cheap schlock. They made Cannibal The Musical from Trey Parker.

@@raymondortiz085 old Lloyd Kaufman Troma flick. Pretty much a superhero satire. (James Gunn actually got his start with Kaufman/Troma) It's decent for what it is, if you like Roger Corman type crap flicks. I'd recommend it to dedicated film nerds, but no one else.

but why did it suck, thats whats so odd about it, its really bram stokers dracula, but instead of rule, it kind of sucked. but thats what the real story was like, apparently.

It doesn't mean anything. The purpose of an adaptation is to adapt something for another media, not just copy it. What's the point to watch a movie that is just a book but animated ?

What? Cuz great books have been turned into movies. Joel an Ethan cole literally typed the exact words from no country from old men

It's all about execution. Yeah, DeNiro's version is closer to the book, and personally it's my favorite version, but Kenneth Branagh's performance as Victor Frankenstein can get annoying at times with his energetic over exposition. The film still also took a few liberties from book too.

Hammer’s the curse of frankenstein is great

Doomreb Or Ray Harryhausen

@@jamesc8259 Oh another good one! Big time.

Or rick baker

Tom Savini is overrated. His effects always looked cheap and rubbery with way too much fake blood.

This is defenitly a good topic. Old horror is better than modern horror

Christopher Lee is horror

I still dream of a reality where Captain Kronos became a series.

@@jstratton1981 The plan was to run it as a franchise (and The 7 Golden Vampires too) but Hammer hit financial problems and went into demise.

@london irish businessman & comedian William Hinds was the founder of the original company, he used a stage name Will Hammer as he was a resident of Hammersmith.

Isn’t rob a massive hammer fan?

Han shot first!

“Han shot first” implies that Greedo got a shot off. The correct phrase is “Han shot greedo”. Also 0/10 Username

@@JosephStardust The correct phrase is "Han shot first" starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Han_shot_first Also, youre an idiot.

Good ol' Harmy