In 11th grade I was called stupid and poor because I planned on getting a technical certification instead of a college degree. Now they're all drowning in debt making 60-80k while I'm making over double that and have no debt whatsoever in my 20s. Who's stupid and poor now?😂😂😂 #CCIE

The problem with student loans is at the federal government backs it. Colleges, then started raising their prices and they haven’t looked back. But once school is done, don’t overspend stay disciplined, and pay that one off fast. I did not go into a restaurant for a year. I just worked and paid off my loans and knocked out about 80 grand in 14 months. We held off from buying a house and just stayed discipline. Discipline equals freedom.

Shamed into college...that resonates.

"Your annual salary is the drug your employer gives you to stop chasing your dreams"

It was great back in 1950. When things were simple and structured. Go to work come home to a beautiful wife to a cooked meal, now its all chaos and drama which makes the 9-5 even worse.

I think differently. Most business owners I know work WAY more hours than I do, and make a lot less than I do at my day job. It makes a difference who you work for, not every company is the ‘boss’ type of company. I have a boss at my job, but in reality I am never told what to do because I am professional enough to know what is expected of me every day and I do it. My company gives me that mind of freedom, not every Company is the evil corporation depicted here. If a business owner takes a day off, they make no money, I get PTO. A business owner never clocks out, at the end of my shift I don’t think about work till the next day. A business owner buys their own health insurance at a huge price, I pay a very small monthly fee next my employer has enough employees enrolled to get way better pricing than any individual. It all depends on your experience, that is mine!

Just quit my job after watching this. Thanks

People are conditioned not to think. People are conditioned to Feel. ‘I feel like …’

It's not some college students who don't get a job requiring a degree, it's most. Half of all grads never use their degree and 40% of students don't graduate. That works out to 70% of everyone who went to college wasted that time and money.

Millionaires discussing the struggle of middle class before cigars and wagyu 😂

Rich people talking about the struggles of normal people. These two are particularly ill suited to talk about this because they followed two of the most unobtainable career paths imaginable.

Jamie sitting there rolling his eyes...

I lack critical thinking so I let Joe Rogan do it for me!

Compared to my previous jobs I tell myself nowadays why ruin a good thing 🤷🏽‍♂️

Skilled trades are good but as a guy in that field it’s almost becoming like a corporate office job in a way. Companies are learning to micro manage in the field now. Taking the skilled work out of the workers hands and doing things the stupid way.

If you have a business. Your Client become your boss. And let's not forget the worst boss the government bureaucrats.

One of the biggest signs of how much of a scam intuition costs are, are how they continued to charge students the same amount of money (thousands per semester) for exclusively taking online classes during the pandemic. It's often the case that you won't even have a professor lecturing a class for months on end, you're just following a cookie-cutter course that's been copy and pasted who knows how many times (depending on what you're studying).

The biggest freedom comes in having a free and clear heart, not in either having a boss, or in not having a boss.

I'm a corporate slave and I'm jealous of those who have that freedom.

Tried to get a business loan to start a business at 19. Was denied... Went to college and they gave me 30 k... I didn't even end up working in the energy field.

I get what they're saying but also there is dignity in having any job. You're providing for yourself and your family and it can give you stability, independence and experience. It can be a stepping stone to a higher position, a better job or creating your own business in the future. Just don't stand still for too long and become stagnant. Learn what you can and then look at ways of progressing, move up or move on to something better.

2 rich guys discussing 9-5 jobs? It’s the 9-5 jobs that pay most of the taxes of this this great nation. They both forgot where they came from

He's correct. My higher education did help me get 2 jobs but when in those jobs, never used that education. Paid those loans off many years ago. I'm retired now. I don't make squat in retirement and will keep it that way to lessen the ripoff of taxation. If I ever work again it will be for cash only but I don't plan to work. The workforce and people in general are too screwed up to tolerate any more.

90% will never understand.

Even if you go to trade school and/or own your own business, the customer becomes your boss and they have expectations you better meet if you want that business to be successful.

The TRUTH about 9-5 jobs… from two guys who have never had one.

There is truth to what Joe is saying, but not everyone has the vision or talent to be their own boss or own a business. It takes some risk tolerance that most people are not comfortable with and prefer the security of a regular paycheck. Some people also really enjoy their jobs. Pilots love to fly. The best trial lawyers love trying cases.

This is exactly what I thought. No enough amount of money can buy the freedom. Life is a journey. Enjoy.

I don’t agree with student loan forgiveness but the interest on student loans should be done away with. Forgiven or not allowed in the first place. I believe people should pay back what they borrowed, not be saddled with interest that’ll keep them a debt slave for many years.

Honestly unless youre a straight A student that knows exactly what profession you want you should just go to the local state college or even community college. If you crush it you can always transfer to wherever you want but in the meantime you save a ton of money. College is a great investment if it a state school with reasonable tuition

I think it also goes back to the education system. We are conditioned to think that way from a very young age. Up here in canada too its the exact same.

My mom started her own business, small but very successful business. The more money it made the more she worked and from what I remember as a kid it was more holidays then less where she still had to take phone calls or go in

Bob Marley wrote a song about this called - RAT RACE

Joe Rogan put me in the UFC please. I got skills and i want to die so i have nothing to lose.

Im lucky i went in the military and they can pay for my college, but i am unable to pass in college. I will start my own business!!

When your a small business owner, your customers are your boss, anybody who earns a living has a boss somewhere.

I’m pretty blessed I use my degree about to get my masters with only 60k in debt it could have been 20k but I choose to not go to my local for free that’s on me but I earn more than what I owe a year and don’t end the week wanting to consuming alcohol or weed to escape I just do BJJ, workout, and play disc golf. The trap is getting an expensive car, expensive apartment, or a kid early on. No need for that, get a dorm or live outside the city for half the rent, get a car that’ll last you 10years or more, use contraceptives. But it is nice seeing those with technical degrees make it that it’s not a one path but not everyone makes it I know 20 artists only one has made it so far (exhibition and museum) trades they all have labor induced issues and injuries. Then the market is oversaturated with graduates hence higher application requirements for low pay. I think both are good it’s just how to go about it is what makes it successful.

Family learn to readjust your mind can be very helpful I'm still learning myself 👉👍

If I could have my own successful business, I would never work another 9-5.

This is why I’m glad I work in construction..none of this nonsense. If my “boss” doesn’t know more about the trade than me I either leave OR become the “boss”. We just get the stuff done and there’s none of this corporate shenanigans. No time to whine around the water cooler when shit needs to be built.

The thing about jobs is that most people just want to come home to there family and that’s there main effort.. going to work isn’t more an activity than taking out the trash is

Ah two guys who have no clue what it’s like working a 9-5 giving their opinion as if we care

College ensures one thing. You will always be in debt because you chose that path. You will always be chasing

Rogan: I know someone on social security who took out loans at 18… Hey Joe, that means the loans were taken around 1975. The cost of college (and the exorbitant loan schemes) didn’t skyrocket until the 90s. I call bullshit.

I don't understand why people still go to college straight out of high school. Go out in the world, do menial work. Figure out who you are, find what you like. THEN go to college. There is no shame in going to college in your late 20s or later. Make those loans worth it.

exactly

Talking like he doesn’t have a job….. yet shows up on time for his podcast

God. You so on point. I say this all the time. People are Robots. We became the artificial intelligence to train the artificial intelligence.

Didn't that "not a magician" lady say she doesn't think ?

How could anyone at ss age still have student loans? College costs were low in the 80s. Complete bs is they still owe because they obviously made terrible financial choices.

Where's these 9-5 jobs? The closest I got is 8-4!

This is why i work 5 to 9 instead...

So we are all going to be CEO owner operators?

Honestly, you should be proud if you have a job even if it's 9-5. Not everyone is a Hollywood celebrity. This bullshit type of disrespect doesn't do any good to society

No. I want to work 6am-2:30.

This clip is funny to me. Aaron has a boss ie the nyj rn and the nfl. He talks about freedom yet the nfl last year had guys playing on thanksgiving and christmas and getting cte. It’s funny how money can distract you from your own reality.

Crazy how out of all the bundles of DNA floating around in the Universe we ended up here 😂

Brov the nfl is the same shit lmao accept u take head damage and get paid extra

Art? 🤣🤣🤣

And content creators can’t say this and that especially during Covid, JOE you where damn close to silent.

The problem with bankruptcy for student loans is that no one is willing to give up what you do when you declare bankruptcy. You have to give back the house or car. Do you have to give back the degree or knowledge you learned or not be allowed by law to say you went to college? If so the let them have bankruptcy, if not then it is cheating.

Been that way for years. It's structured to make the world work. Productive employees.

Lean a trade!

Translation: I didn’t go/failed at college, you should fail too.

It's not they don't have the ability to think for Themselves...it's that they would rather die than think for themselves.

Its not taken away from them its simple risk. Bro a BUNCH of people know HOW to start a buisiness but the fear of destitution, starving to death, losing any assets they currently have as collateral, ect keep a LOT of people employed. That isn't their fault most businesses fail most people literally COULDNT be business owners just based on the economy

No way

Trained to consume and die penniless. Quite purposefully really.

Trade school.

Really funny watching rich people shit on their staff, people they know and anyone that isn’t them lol.

100%

You’re not good at adding b roll

Finally independent thinking. Glad to have this left.

Check out Harvard online its free. True educators dont want there students broke

Just play the podcast part take all that bs out😂😂

Just shut it

I prefer starving than working 9 to 5

I have a 9-5 job and i love it. I used to work in hospitality working all hours, weekends etc. 9-5 , 5 day week is great. So there you have it Joe. Now jog on 👍

The fact that there is interest on a loan for EDUCATION is insanity.

You used to be able to erase all debt including student loans with bankruptcy. Republicans changed the law so you couldn’t.

I have been a recruiter for almost 20 years. A “job” is making profits for someone else that gets the right off’s you can’t ckaim. Health insurance YOU have to pay for, not them. And they only keep you if you make them 3x earns at the very least. When get older. You cost them more. They move the goal post just to make you leave. You know have a higher salary and heir business model is ROI. They will replace you with three 20 something year olds. Cause one will hit. Law of averages. Now they are paying them a third of what you made so their profits go up! When you have a “job” you give everything to someone else. Fuck a job!

Owning your own company is not Freedom you probably work more for yourself then you would work for somebody else... what they're saying seems so dumb

I am just so glad 9-5 jobs are a thing of the past and machines take care of that crap now.

Work 2 or 3 jobs in the summer. Commute to college if possible. Work a part time job during college. It's easy ! Another alternative is join the military, go to college part time while in the military. Put money into the GI Bill program. Once you are out of the military do the first strategy I listed in this comment. Even easier !

I love listening to pot heads tell me where I’m going wrong.

What an elitist narrow minded perspective Rogan and Rodgers look at themselves as a the exception due to their own ability . They are the authors of the success they now have when the truth is their is a lot of randomness and just luck involved in the outcomes in life . Everyone assumes that the cream rises to the top . If you analyze success you will see that there are key moments , decisions that could of broke the other way and significantly would of changed the outcome

400 likes and I’ll quit my job tomorrow

I work as a FedEx driver on college campus and yesterday I saw a guy with a shirt that read” Chubby and queer ready for beer”. This is the new world we live in unfortunately.

Most people are like small children who need to be told! What to do and need a father type figure

And it’s one of the main reasons why I don’t go to college because I find it pointless and you can make good money without a degree, Also say the same thing that they just wanted to kowtow and listen, and I refuse and everywhere I’ve worked knows that I stand up against anybody who tries to treat me poorly even the managers and owners of the business, I’ve already let them know they ain’t my boss, because of the idiom decisions and because of the way they treat people. I was never fired, and I stood up to multiple store and plant managers and told em they’re a bitch or piece of shit, even a piece of shit list, here I am still not fired.

Depends what kind of independent self-sufficient job we are talking here. Most of the time let's say the government bureaucracy is much worst than corporate beuarocracy you have to go thru to grow your business. Or the customer relationships you have to maintain might be much worse than the boss relationship you maintain. Or survive your competitors in the market is hell of the battle than surviving your colleagues to grow in the career ladder.

That’s why Islam strictly forbids interest.

These guys are elitists.

Satan

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Even if you work for yourself you still have to answer to your clients. Everyone answers to someone. Don't underestimate the importance of rules. Imagine raising children without rules.

Why do public figures always make it seem like working a job is this terrible depressing thing. For all of time people worked. Only recently were there clowns who go on tv or the internet and entertain people for money. I dont even have a cool job and I wake up every morning energized and ready to go to work. After work im excited to enjoy my evening. The weekends are busy doing cool shit. Im not getting off work mopey and depressed slamming sox packs every day😂 I love Joe but sometimes he is a little too disconnected from real humans.

These podcasts have zero informative value.

Probably the best advice from the least credible athlete lmao. Dude took an antivax stance knowing nothing about science.

You can either have a job where you take orders and follow directions all day or you can have a job where you give orders and provide direction. Guess which one pays more? 🤔😂