Christ😭😭

Stupid, cocaine is the whack af.

👁👄👁 offfff offff offf offff - the lady from that Cheech and Chong movie that snorts Ajax thinking it was werk 🤣

@@leslierequenez2976 great scene. Great movie.

Meth got me off that nasty habit! Now I'm digging my face apart and feel so much better. When I tweek out and steal my mom's purse I think "thank goodness I'm on meth now"

Lol 😂

Joe 10 minutes earlier: ”Sober as fuck!”

@@Blackmetaljulian just in October 🔥

I'm from Indonesia I hope we can get to know each other

Peak Rogan

Where can i get it please help me im on xanx my anxiety is horrible please i went off for 7 days and day 3 took a turn for the worse i couldn't walk sleep talk my nerves where off the chart it was hell on earth please help me where do it buy and what kind help me please

Had a bit of a cycling career in mid-West Fla, and a lot of the guys I rode with were ex-runners who all had their hips replaced by 50. That you as well?

Everyone's different there's some people that experience heroin like withdrawal but obviously with less intensity because it takes effect on your opioids receptor

@@1neAdam12 I'm a regular gym goer,was a wrestler in high school and started Brazilian jiu jitsu in my forties and trained regularly in that for 16 years up to black belt so not sure what caused it but probably overuse

@@MrDocboz Good for you.. It catches up quick though, huh. I don't mind so much the pangs of getting older. I spent my entire life tuning this body. I'd rather have creaky achy bones from being an athlete, than I would from living a sedentary life.

Sadly the 2023 joe now believes whatever his republicans friends tell him

Yeah. He seems to always have been an honest dude. Like him or not. And he schools himself on his topics. As well as has open conversation with people on his podcast.

Thats seriously not funny

Kratom got me off of pain medication in the past, and then I stopped taking thd kratom and then has no withdrawals. Kratom saves lives, it is no killer. Besides if you start mixing stuff anything can kill you. Like idiots that get drunk while taking oxycontin. Since that happens on a by the minute basis now...Should we make booze illegal because people love to mix that with drugs of all types, or should the oxycontin be illegal because it wipes out about 40,000 people a year. Yet, it remains legal. Should it be banned? 🤷‍♂️ Nobody has an answer. But it is a proven fact that Kratom can help you get off of heroin or oxycontin without letting the withdrawals butcher and maim you. Peace.✌🙏👍

🤣🤣funny

@Joebatain Maxx you really needed heroin to get off kratom? Ive never had the impulse.

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Cody Stewart I've had that same thought. Everyone stfu about Kratom already!. When I first discovered Kratom no one knew about it, therefore I didn't tell anyone about it, 12 years later... Bam!... it's all over the internet!. It's like telling everyone about this great high paying job you're applying for, you're just shooting yourself in the foot.

That is the best way to put it! Big pharma gets antsy about losing 1% of sales for painkillers and detox drugs, and the alphabet soup of government agencies ride in to save us from safer, effective, natural and cheaper kratom! So glad we've got the best government money can buy! I guess we got quite the bargain by electing Trump - that probably cut out a few (hundred) middlemen

Exactly

Cody Stewart Hello! And they are banning it as we speak in Wisconsin. I wonder what state is next? We have a Out-Of-Control Government with a bunch of Wacko Politicians who are drunk on Money & Power! Really Sad.

Larry Long couldn’t agree more buddy.

Amen, that subreddit is a huge wake up call and I am frequently on it. Actually quitting kratom after years of taking it is extremely tough

Kratom ain't shit do some real drugs

Delta9 gummies help me with booze cravings. And I don't really like weed. They just make me not want to drink. Tried kratom once and I either didn't take enough or just already had too high of an opiate tolerance.

I see people asking about kratom use all the time, and my answer is: if you don't NEED to be on it, don't start it. Edit for clarification: I have used it for 15 years to control pain. It works great, but I can't recommend it for recreation. That's what *real* drugs are for.

@@chompachangaswould you say it is possible to use it occasionally ? For example as an alternative to alcohol if I were to use it a couple times a month

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I’ve worked an honest lifestyle, work, don’t drink, don’t smoke, but my job choices are brutal to my body. I deal with so much pain and have no relief, I was at a shop asking questions and it’s supposed to help with pain and energy. I feel like some people can overdo anything- but the right person and the right dose/intention I think this can really help a person without it being disabling.

I’m grateful your 15 years into success it sounds to me and I’m glad to hear it could help me as well considering I deal with something -like- arthritic and nerve pain. Having no good drs around and x rays no one among other GI issues that can be very upsetting I’m hoping my first time today will be a blessing.

How many grams for pain?

Does anyone answer please im on xanx never told how evil they where ween hahhaha you cant ween off xanx never day 3 i couldn't walk my legs where jello my mind gone my heart beating i jump at any sound please i need help i had no choice but to take them again 😢please any one with a heart help me please 🙏

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I fucked my knee up lol

Hamilton suddenly looks below table to see Joes huge bulge in his pants 😄

@@aliomid8283 Joe" I turned right all od a sudden, slapped my meat on my knee"😂😂😂

Shit I was taking that in my 20's. That stuff is great!!

John Wick imonitrightnowbroyawananafuckinbump?

Lmao

LMFAO 😂😂😂

micro sniffing

@@cbeezy2 lmao

Same. I took one gram for my upper back disc pain and it was gone for hours

what way were you ingesting? smoking? tea? capsules?

@@tom4208you don’t smoke it man 😂 Either powder, leaf, capsules or drink.

@@JoeyBK_86 lol!

It is really effective for pain. It really helps with fever pain as well. Lovely substance, much more effective than regular opiates for me.

😂😂😂 i still found drugs in prison

And THAT'S the way to do it. ***(if possible ) cold turkey, get all that shit out your system. Unfortunately prison is the only way some people do get clean, not this Kratom everyone's raving about, sorry but YOU'RE NOT CLEAN if you're taking kratom

@@JaneCooper190072 abstinence amd recovery are two different things

@@JaneCooper190072 and what's your perspective? Someone who has never been addicted to any substance? Someone who hasn't tried painkillers or Kratom? People die from quitting opiates completely. And if someone is taking kratom rather than heroin, they are clean. They aren't taking a substance that threatens their life with every injection. They aren't purchasing a drug illegally and risking being put in prison. Fuck off, some people are less fortunate and find themselves in bad situations. And it's people like you who make it seem like it's their issue for being addicted.

@@christopherharris8312 I've had opiate addiction for over 30 years, so I do know what I'm talking about actually, and concerning the Kratom you still need to withdraw off of that too, so no you're not clean. My friend tried kratom a few days ago and had the worse allergic reaction, she had a fever and was very ill. All I'm saying is you now have a Kratom addiction. The same with methadone you're at less of a risk from overdose, infection from injection sites e.t.c. ; but you're still addicted to an opioid and have a hell of a time coming off cold turkey. There's just no easy way to come off of opiates, you're going to go thru some discomfort regardless of what you take. The best way to do it is reduce as low as possible and then get something for about a week to get over the worst part. It IS their/our "issue" for being addicted. Who else's?

Lmao

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hal900x Thank you for your Common Sense attitude. I hope & pray that only people who stand up for Kratom will speak. Not anyone who wants to support it in a Negative way. All this does is feed our Hateful Tyrannical Government.

They kinda have, in some places it's illegal to collect rain water.

Illegal? The government can't control nothing, people always find a way to get it, the same way they claim there are no cures for certain diseases ironically there is if you stop believing everything they say, and find out for yourself.

There you go trying to restrict kratom with laws. Just like big pharma.

How you doing now man? I been on it for 5 years need to quit for a couple weeks soon

Your thumbnail makes this comment hilarious

A robed jack-skunk visited my dream, told me to fertilize grass soil with warm liquid plastics. He instructed me to take the grass and burn it, smoke the dinosaurs, and win the war on drugs. You sir i choose to breathe this first. Your were prophesied, not by the robed jack-skunk, but by a beeming-curr. It's ordained. Send me location or else.

Earl of Sandwich I’ll send you location, if you send me some of whatever you’re on

Noice

@@mineduck3050 I'll have what you're having.

Best one

HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Gay

@@micklovin9836 You are? Fantastic 👏🌈

Hahaha 🤣😂

If you drank it in a tea I do wonder if it would have also been a routine that promoted healing...idk been clean 12 years I just quit cold turkey and maybe would have tried this had I known about it.

I had the exact same experience trying to use it while coming off of Heroin and benzos. They didn’t do a thing to help me. Cold Turkey is the only thing that works. And THC

You had some bs bunk kratom

​@@GnarGreenit won't help at all with benzos

gas station junk doesnt work lol

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@@apz41998 it's six days old lol

Dammit man! KruhTOM helped you get off Kratom..

@@bakedandsteaked what's your point?

Lmao

He’s referring to mark bell

Hahaha... You're on to something here😊

Lmao this comment made me laugh at work damnit

He's speaking of Joey Diaz 😉

@@Kozycz mark bell is pretty baby dumping a kilo into his face by this point

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Bruh....

@@cannonfodder8287 🤣

This takes the cake

LMFAOOOO🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@tommydorlac8700 More than likely.

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William B. Keck thats not a more than likely it’s a flat out 100% impossible 😅 A gram can put you on your ass how the fuck are you gonna smoke 80kg of weed that’s impossible beyond impossible. However I would like to know how they calculated that figure... cause with concentrated thc oils now you could absolutely consume a large amount of thc that could equate to multiple ounces or pounds I couldn’t possibly estimate it but no fucking way you’re gonna od haha

Drew M A GRAM?!😭

Sugar Tits I think its referring to thc overdose so yeah that’s what I was thinking, resins and oils are crazy potent so you could potentially consume a shit load but I don’t think you’d come close to actually od’ing. Remember you’re gonna be getting more high the more you consume! It’s a never ending battle that continues to get harder! I don’t think I could consume my body weight of anything, least of all weed 😂

Hook it up playa!! Or don’t if it’s a trigger but stockpile meds cuz eventually y they will hardly exist

You still on kratom? Good luck getting off that

@@PNorthWDad yes,and I don't plan on stopping. I have broken metal and shrapnel stuck in my spine. I should be in pain management but no doctor will write pain meds anymore because people abused them. Kratom is a life saver. When you're in constant physical pain to the point of wanting to delete yourself with no cure addiction to a highly less dangerous drug than opioids is worth the trade off. Living in so much pain you're constantly in tears and unable to get out of bed isn't living,it's just waiting to die. And no,I'm not depressed and I certainly don't look forward to death. But chronic severe pain is something I'm simply not going to deal with if I don't have a means to ease my suffering

Get a great doctor to take the metal rod out! That sounds horrible, I'm so sorry.

@@PNorthWDad It's not that hard. 3-5 days of suck, then it gets better.

Tell me what to expect..I have this same issue but I use thos disposables from the cbd store here in Nebraska where some delta products are legal to consume. I don't use the real stuff as it's not legal here..any way, I would like to kick it and go get that job..pros cons give me your best Kratos 101 course. Serious ask.

@@kylemulvihill4864 try it out in small amounts and see how it affects you! everyone is different. good luck, i hope you get that job!

I’ll sell you pot

Damn! Straight to the good stuff.

roflmao

“Nat that’s the last decade stuff”

Sheeeesh 😂😂😂

Damn I literally laughed so hard the MMS I was eating came out of my Nose.

Joe keeps it real. They have to say drastically under what would help in most cases.

"I once took 10" he didn't even research the mg on the dosage and what's actually useful 😂

@@Ikari777 Two kratom pills is almost nothing. Probably wouldn't even feel it unless you weigh 90 pounds or something. 6-10 is more like a normal dose.

Think that’s crazy take 4 OPMS gold pills on an empty stomach...Guarantee your ass will be fuUUUUUCKED

@klaus 420 True but if you take Kratom in capsule form you are just wasting it. I guess its ok since its so cheap anyway. If you actually split the capsules open and swallow it, then its about twice as potent. Most of what gets you high is when its absorbed in your mouth and such. In Capsule form a lot of it just passes through your system.

If I were you, I would get a gym membership and take one or two weeks off of work. The first couple days just stay in bed. That feeling will pass eventually. Then go to the gym everyday, lift weights and do light cardio. You might just get addicted to the gym life but its a lot better than being addicted to a substance

@@poindextertunesyea then when I do that I get addicted to taking kratom before the gym

Incredible herb, kratom saved my life, can't be thankful enough for it! Thanks for sharing your story, I'll also look into your recommended vendor, they look really legit. I am currently also buying from head shops, I did not know you can get it online. Stay safe brother

I also stopped drinking 2 years ago thanks to Kratom, I feel you!

Similar story for me, Kratom saved my life, it's the best thing that happened to me, I got a 2nd chance in life because of it.

What strain you are taking to avoid tolerance? I'm taking it for 1 year now and I'm good, but I'm trying to play it safe. Thanks for sharing your source, they look promising. Let me know your fav strain if possible

Thanks for sharing awareness on this amazing plant, stories like yours make me believe it will never get banned!

Vampire_State_Building ! He’s a master at doing drugs and studying them

Why because he looks Jewish

Michael Molina yes

@@michaelmolina9667 Hamilton has done more drugs than you probably ever will. 'cept he does his on camera..

He looks like he’s ready to croak

It helps my nerve & arthritis pain more than anything ever has

Lol that's the most suitable middle name for the little toe..

Oh oh oh....

What's the recommended dosage? I don't know, take a look

Famous Forever I take 3 milligrams per dosage as many as 4 a day and having Kratom is the only reason I could get off bupenorphine (Suboxone) which I had been on for 5 years after i decided to kick heroin and other opiates. I have been clean for a whole year in August and I thank God everyday.

@@davidd.teetersii7317 milligrams? Or grams? because 3 milligrams is like almost nothing

@Fah Qtube Yep. Much better and more manageable than the old addiction. I suppose you have no flaws, huh. Must be awesome to be perfect. Tell me all about it

Im sorry man but youre not sober, try the 12 steps. Much better than any drug Ive been on

@@GeidRimla couldn't do the twelve steps. It's either take the Kratom and be sober more so than I was or go back to drinking and being an intolerable ass clown that does stupid shit and loses everything. I'll stick with the Kratom. Do you consider people who take coffee to be sober?

If it means anything I totally understand and am happy that you found a reasonable substitute for the alcohol Only alcoholics can appreciate what you’re saying Much love brother take care

Powerful man! Do it for the kiddos

Agree with this. Kratom simply isn't powerful enough to replace the sucker punch of your opioid receptors that heroin provides. Its a tickle compared to a punch. But its good for getting off other weaker opioids, including oxycodone.

Wkuk?

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Damn am I ok I did 17 weeds???

yeah he didnt say that

Ya I’m on 6 right now I fucked my knee up! I did 10 once. Gotta love Joe.

Neil Roberts underrated

Neil Roberts haha haha haha 🤣 I laughed way too hard

Who's still here after he signed for Spotify?

Neil Roberts legit lol 🤣🤣🤣

I Legit died laughing

How much do you take now? I'm assuming it's more.

@@tylersays- Nope. That's where I've been riding for around a year now. Some days I will hit 8 grams. Some days I hit 4 grams. Doesn't hit like it use to but it does what I need it to do. Still not drinking either!!!

@@FordFalcon54 have you ever taken a break? Or a day off?

@@tylersays- no minimum is 4 grams a day. I had my appendix out in October. I got labs done before. No red flags on my blood panel. I want to look at my liver specifically though. Also think all the juice I drink (6-8 ounces at a tome) isn't doing my pancreas any favors so probably need a panel on that. In the new year I'm going to get blood work. I'll let you know if you're curious.

@@tylersays- I guess with my appendix I took a few days off but as soon as I could handle the pain I stopped taking my pain pills and started up on kratom. They gave me 4 tramadol and some heavy dosage drug in the ibuprofen family. Non narcotic obviously due to my background. I took 1 tramadol first night. Then a couple days on the other drug. Didn't take kratom until I stopped taking those.

Calm yo hormones:o

he worked with Vice on all types of drugs and would take them as well. I'd check it out if you like Hamilton. It is on youtube.

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No he talked about this guy on other podcasts

@@timpowers6876 r/wooosh

Well he did admit that he did it after...

@@cxde11 no u

What smh

skuxs they Epstein’d themselves

And ppl die from stairs every year.

And roughly 200 people kill thereself each day also i feel like drugs are a way out but a gun is too banning something does not mean people wont use it or get it if you think that your very dumb slick all banning it does is gives plugs somethin else to sell for huge profites look at every drug era if you think im incorrect literally goes the same way every time if you want a diffeent system check out portugal they have made drastic changes in drug addiction in the population unlike the us which brands people as bad people and shames them which helps noone

Facts better over here, Read This : Smell. Fart. Death. Ha. Gazillion people die a day from the death fart stench of my death farts. Ha. Death Farts !

One had a bullet in the heart

Exactly.. Same concept with the "steroid" deaths.

Exactly. There were only 32 deaths deaths w kratom reported and ZERO were kratom-only related. Every single case were poly substance associated. There were 52 caffeine-only reported mortality cases last year and 458 acetaminophen (APAP) deaths with >100k APAP poisonings. No one blinks an eye at that. Laughably ridiculous.

Right?! Guy drowns. He has coffee in his system so this is clearly a coffee related death! 🤦🏻‍♀️ No. Just no.

There have been cannabis deaths, aspirin deaths, and water deaths, really. We cannot take a life changing healing botanical away from the 1000s that have broken the chains of hard drug addiction because a few unfortunates had a reaction usually with other substances. There is a reason I never heard of kratom for the years of agony i spent hurting my family and myself and its not because nobody knew. Big Pharm is of course threatened by this viable and inexpensive opiate addiction cure but its our responsibility to those ahead of us who fall victim to heroin and pk torture to keep this legal and available.

Protects you from addiction??? lol. How do you figure since kratom is really addictive?

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More likes. This is the best I'm on it.

Man, it is impossible to overdose on Flinstones'!

u jest, but about 15 years ago, they did an extensive study of all the name-brand, top-selling multi-vitamins... and they found that the FLINSTONES had the most bio-availability, combined with a good range, and appropriate dosage; it came in #1, over Centrum, 1-a-day, and the equivalent generics

@@MrBridgevillen Guess I'm getting on Flinstones now. Thanks.

@Jim Crow clearly kratom turned him into a psychopathic zombie and made him do PCP and LSD which then made him run onto a highway and get hit by a car which resulted in him overdosing on kratom. BAN KRATOM /s

@Jim Crow What's the name of the show on Netflix?

if anyone out there wants to cure AIDS, just pour exactly 2 cups of pure alcohol into your colon and do a handstand for 5 minutes

@@calaclullaalaflulla5285 whaat? 😂💀

@@calaclullaalaflulla5285 Ethanol is hydrophilic. Meaning it is fond of water. 200 proof ethanol is only possible in a vacuum. 194.7 is the highest yer gonna get.

I dated this weire chick once. Well it wasnt really dating, she just came over to my place a couple of times, but that is another story. Anyway I met her on some type of social media app and she posted a photo there with a bowl with this weird looking brown stuff on top. Some ppl commented "what is that?" She called it "moonrocks" but I made a comment that it was "black tar caviar" But she deleted my comment, lol. Eventually deleted her account there entirely. As did I. Btw she was also a former meth head and told me she quit using it years ago but that she could sometimes "smell it" while she was asleep. Girl was cra cra.

I’m the ugly mf😔

Lol why does everybody spell heroin like that

@Jim Cornette ah moonrocks are not mdma. She actually claimed it was moonrocks but i could tell it was not.

@Jim Cornette I am not sure what you are referring to because slang is different in different areas but from where I was at moonrocks meant bud that had been rolled in kief (look up kief if you need to) I never heard of anyone ever smoking MDMA. Molly is a pill. Although I am sure some idiots probably tried to crush it and smoke it or even snort it but I don't think they got any buzz from it. And any idiot who did that probably also thought chewing on tide pods was cool or funny

Joe isn’t that stupid

Pedro Hernandez he probs is

opiliones 420 okay opioids 420

@opiliones 420 Meth will ruin your life in months. Alcohol will ruin your life over decades.

@opiliones 420 Well, I'm never going to try amphetamines, but I do occasionally drink alcohol. I know my limit, and NEVER drive drunk because I'm not an idiot. Alcohol is addictive, but what you said about wanting another drink until you pass out is not so much the addictive element, rather that's just the alcohol screwing with your better judement.

Jesus. I take .6 of a gram 😂 that’s ridiculous. Why in the hell would you try 18 grams for your first time. Would you take 18 grams of marijuana for your first time? 😂 think man

@@BozoDuhClown I was having very bad withdrawals and kratom is suppose to help with those. I asked them the dosage I could take and they okayed me with that amount. It wasn’t all at once either. But Was throughout the day. I mean brodie I was popping 35, 50 mg of oxy a day so that 18 of kratom shoulda nothing for me. But it wasn’t my first time. I’ve used it in the past before

That is insane a high dose is considered 4-7 grams..

@@heatherw02hw it wasn’t once

It feels amazing to know about psychedelics all thanks to this online store I was able to get some mushrooms and they got some lsd gummies cannabis xtc and another stuffs

This is funnier than it should be to me

Lmao 😹

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Jonathan Velder, Yeah, if you didn't add water to mix the highly water soluble opioids up in case of hot-spots, use the buddy system & use micron filters if you administered via IV, sure, but only junkies don't do that shit.

What kind should be used

True Kash, Typically red vein is what opi users use. The rest are brands essentially, but I've heard good things about Mang De red vein kratom. One teaspoon is approximately two grams of powdered kratom, and most take 8-16grams per dose, IIRC. Hit up 420chan's opiate board if you wish to ask & inquire more.

Michael Hodgden people who defend opiates are always lying to themselves that they aren’t on their way out the door. You’re not gonna have some miracle realization that you’re about to od before you do. Smoke grass tweaker

Bruokoli, You won't know that you're psychologically addicted to cannabis until you are either. Opioids are HIGHLY water soluble, meaning simple water will distibute it evenly - There are four cornerstones to prevent opi OD's: 1) Don't fucking mix or add any other respiratory depressants. 2) Add water to distribute all opioids evenly in whatever you're taking, as there are even pressed pills out there. 3) Measure out one-eighth of said solution as a tester dose via prefered ROA and juxtapose strength through said volumetric dosage. 4) Use the fucking buddy system with naloxone at hand. I've hypothetically been using for over ten years and only OD'd once when I used a completely legal fentalogue RC. Never happened with any morphinan. Not to mention EtOH (Drinking Alcohol) is more lethal than all illegal, recreational drugs combined annually. Opioids don't damage the brain or liver like EtOH does nor does it produce excessive insulin which is also damaging through excessive amounts of carbs like EtOH does. Oh, did I mention how cancerous EtOH is? I'd rather OD and die and be done with it than loose my mind, need a new liver and/or acquire cancer or diabetes. Also, tweaker or tweeker is for stim users. And just for future reference, there's a major diference between junkie & addict, and it ain't what drug they use either; what do you think you strive for? - Not an accomplishment but the release of endogenous chemicals, the accomplishment is just the drug to release endogenous neurotransmitters.

Sounds like it caused the heart attack Hope that helps

Please tell me the strain! I also suffer from trigeminal neuralgia type 1 (and anesthesia dolorosa and hydrocephalus) Thanks😊

Yeah it has helped me as well. I've had brain surgery 8 times since I was 21, knee surgery 3 times, and will likely need additional brain surgery if I live long enough. But yes due to the fact that I was started on opioids at 18 with my first knee surgery back in 1999... at which time they pretended like it wasn't addictive. Unfortunately I did become dependent on them and went through HELL multiple times as a young adult, alone. Doctors pretend like they are not responsible but they are 100% responsible when they prescribe these drugs knowing damn well they're addictive in every mammal.

Mike Fusaro Many others have done the same; Kratom saves lives and families! God bless!

Mike Fusaro if your on kratom your not clean

+Catherine McGuire don't knock somebody's progress. It makes you look like a real piece of shit

I need to find out where and what to by to stop the 7 years of Subutex. I've told the doc long time I want off. He just says when myself. I cannot. I'm at 6 mg a day. Tiny pieces a day I take few times a day rather than whole pills. I cant handle the sickness it gives when I take it. I've been too long taking it. I dont need it anymore. I wonder if this kratom would work for 1 month plan. Or two weeks.

Kratom ended my Vicodin addiction, took a while and I plan on quitting Kratom when the time feels right. I'm so happy to see you're doing well!

Let's hope they don't ban it. That would be awful

Very happy for you.

I agree 100% recovering heroin addict clean for 4 years💯

Just an FYI: You may not feel like that forever! I had a hard time getting off kratom and it's nasty! Made me feel awful...Hopefully, you won't have the same experience! Good Luck!

@@shannonbeee3760 I was just stating that Ive never felt as though it was dangerous. Now I'll be the first to admit that long term over use most certainly has negative side effects. It certainly is not pleasurable to come off of either. The first 3 days were of course miserable. I didn't start to feel normal or even slightly happy until days 7 through 10. Thank you for your comment though. Any accurate knowledge of this stuff is always good to share.

If it ever happens find me on Facebook I live in California I'll send it to u

I really am not trying to be a downer, but is that 2 straight years of using it? By all means, harm reduction is a strategy and I’d say better on kratom than methadone. But your son isn’t clean until he has nothing interacting with his opiate receptors, and time makes breaking a habit harder. The brain also learns, so to speak, and gets used to things - meaning going without after 2 years would be torture. If he’s still young and simple harm reduction isn’t all you’re going for, I’d look for a therapist familiar with kratom and talk out an exit strategy with GOOD SUPPORT in case things get hairy. I know it probably feels safer as is but the question becomes, is this what you both want for the rest of his life? Because it’ll only get harder, and as tolerance builds the risk of switching back grows also. As well, unlike say suboxone, kratom does not block the effects of opiates whatsoever. Just don’t think being on kratom is a cure all. It’s great for chronic pain sufferers, but for those that have addiction issues, it’s still a drug being used to alter one’s mood. Therapy is also worthwhile because usually there’s something underlying - for me it was anxiety and of course, opiates take care of that. So would kratom but I know it’s not a long term solution so I had to deal with some less wonderful days, worth it in the long run. In all seriousness, even if you never see this, I wish you and your son luck. Hopefully you also know the huge difference a supportive family can make in recovery, sounds like you have that part well covered.

I have over 2 straight years clean off opiates and amphetamines, I have been using Kratom every day. And while my kratom habit is getting heavy.. I'm still not using illegal drugs

Newname I agree that support is very important but I have support and it still gets hard. I also have chronic pain.. I'm 23, have a hip replacement, several broken vertebrae, and a broken tailbone. So I need something for pain

Tracey Johnson I hate to break it to you! He’s still an addict and addicted to Kratom! Hopefully he doesn’t go broke and can’t get it..

How hard was it to get off of Kratom for you? I'm very interested in doing this!!

@@alisac.1560 I just used it for the first two weeks to get past PAWS and stopped with no withdrawal.

Use Kratom for pain med withdrawals , then cbd oil and aspirin to leave kratom. Then eat an antifungal diet to finish bringing good health back. Kratom after a few months will wreck your bladder , and kidneys by the way.

Congrats man... As someone that took painkillers and was shooting heroin for years I certainly don't understand how this was better than a really good 5 day subutex taper or even just a cold turkey cut out.. I found Kratom an awful solution that isn't effective enough to actually take away serious withdrawals and also just suffers from the lack of legality and therefore also the production of quality kratom. For me. Subutex was the savior. Long term Suboxone use is AWFUL. Just as bad as methadone and harder to come off than Oxy's or heroin. But if you're using oxy/heroin you can literally come off in 5 days with very little withdrawal and very little pain with a good smart sub taper.. i also know many people that got sober with kratom 3 times, subs 3 times, and methadone 3 times, only to then make themselves detox with nothing so that it would stick in their brain. Everyone is different. That's awesome it worked for you but I really hope people don't just jump on this. There's a reason it's not the go to.

@@josephgood2704 Every user I knew/know has a kratom stash right next to their sub stash, I have yet to personally meet anyone who it didnt work for but I am aware its not a solution for everyone. It can also become another addiction. But for me I felt literally no withdrawal and only used it for about a week. Used subutex and suboxone in the past and they worked decent, but seemed to make my rabid anxiety worse. Kratom however helped with it a lot. Just my experience. But thank you man, congrats to you as well

Lmao your friend full of kratom and shit

Lol seriously 😂

This is hilarious! 😂😂😂😂😂👍🏼

Either that or "kratom saved my life"

@@punani_slayer4209 -- The only reason I ever wanted to try kratom was because the DEA wanted to ban it a few years ago. When I saw that I thought, "Oh this must be some good shite!" It was. I used the green or white variety (not the red, painkiller leaves) because it was like an amphetamine. Got me speedy and I liked using it for when I was working.

So stupid...These are the people that took 15 jabs and still get covid..

What kind?

Let me buy your script lmao

Which one do you take? I’ve had 4 spinal surgeries and was just approved of getting a spinal stenosis inserted in my back to help with the pain and I tried the Bali Red Vein Kratom to see if maybe it would help, I keep trying different meds and different therapies.

I’ll buy all you’re oxy

@@sarahkathryn3731 oh I like you Sarah

I acquired mine from an online dmt psychedelic store they ship discreet¿?¿

phramtrip!

300mg a day?!! how dude, I took it as an early teenager and like 50mg would keep me up for like 1-2 days without sleeping

@@frostmafia1380 tolerance man, I’m 1 year sober from adderall now though.

About 500 people die every year from over dosing/over using Tylenol

Such a stupid comparison

Lol, terrible comparison. Use your brain bro

why is it a stupid comparison? The point is you shouldn't just jump to conclusions about whether something is worthwhile to take or not based on whether a few people among a population of billions have died

@Michael Jordan Champagne corks are very dangerous. I know a guy who's second cousin got one in the eye.

@Mr Shikigami 3 marijuanasases

Stop quoting something that wasn’t said. I hope you get sued.

@@bhillis99 I think you are the type of person that struggles in life.

@@Jrd-kn4dw you would be very wrong

@@bhillis99 I highly doubt that.

You likely abused it... Dont blame the substance, blame yourself

yeah but youre still going to have people abuse it and give the entire drug a bad name..As someone who is prescribed benzos for severe GAD from PTSD, i have to say it has changed my life, i used to go up to 2 weeks without sleeping to the point i would be out of my mind with delusions. I have been on it for 5 years now, i have never abused it, but than you have the select few that do abuse it and they give the whole thing a bad name as a result. Kratom will be no different the abusers will give it a bad name even for the people who take it responsibly and for medicinal purposes

smalltown Completely Agree.

Not being in pain is a kind of mini-party in itself. One of life's tender mercies. Nothing wrong with savoring it.

I take it often and have never considered it something to party with. I mean, its less intense than weed. I can't imagine a bunch of frat Bros being like, "yeah man...got a keg of beer, an eight ball, some girls coming over, oh yeah and KRATOM."

@@nicholasroberts7891 right on bro

Glad you’re still here. ❤️

Did you quit finally? I am trying to. The withdrawls are nowhere near heroin but it still sucks, I just need to man up and put up with the restless legs and snot lol.

​@@skipstodder8996 I haven't completely stopped taking them yet. Currently, I take one capsule when I wake up and one in the evening. I definitely felt the withdrawals that you're talking about though because I would take one of my days off and fight through it without taking any or very little. When I would resume the normal routine, each dose would be a little smaller. Example: If I was taking 5 capsules every 4 hours, 7 days a week, then after my "purge" day the normal routine would be 4 capsules every 4 hours etc etc.. Little bits of weed helped when I had problems sleeping but if I didn't have access to weed I'd probably just do Tylenol PM or something like that. I also ate a little healthier and started taking complete vitamins and it seems to help quite a bit energy-wise. I know it's annoying af but you'll get it. 💪

@@freesmoke8088 Much appreciated. Thanks for the kind words. ❤️

@Lord john of castle johndle What do you mean by that? Do you mean that if your drug of choice is heroin, Kratom is the drug for you? I don't get your reply.

Wow- good to know

KRATOM!!!

kratom helped me kratom you get what im kratoming?

LMFAO XD

I used heroin to get off kratom

A kratom just flew over my house

Yes. I love hamiltons pharmacopeia

This is an amazing man who did more than smoke frog mucus in spooky woods. He is a phenomenal scientist.

A quick google & KZfaq search will answer that question for you. Open another tab...

Grant Harrington he didn’t smoke it?? 😑

@@MatthewFrazierr but indeed he did

Underrated 😂😂

@@camronperez9327 you have to picture him sayjng it like he woukd on it 😭😭

😂 best one i’ve read

Best one

Best one.

It's legal where i am now and smoke going up for mom. I use Kraytom powder and it's a much healthier alternative than opioid pills. I agree with what you said and cigarettes and in my opinion alcohol should be more regulated than anything. How many people die from drunk driver's and liver disease? And it lead's to domestic assaults and in some cases murder. I'm a survivor of domestic abuse and will date anyone who drink's.

Israelleelll 5 million people die a year from tobacco not 500,000. Also 4 million alcohol deaths.

Amen!!!

Josh from Duncannon kratom is a life saver for opioid dependant users

Josh from Duncannon but people are impressionable and your comment could be interpreted as negative. Currently the DEA wants to schedule Kratom. That would be devastating for millions of people who want an herbal and safe alternative to opiates.

You are right, I have withdrawal 3 times unintentionally after running out, my first one was nothing since I only took 5 grams a day, the second withdrawal was intense I took 12-20 grams, it had that buzzing feeling and discomfort similar to a strong alcohol hangover and my third withdrawal after taking 20-35 grams a day was surprisingly easier, I feel like the more you withdrawal from the K the easier it and more tolerable it gets despite dosage, but yes it’s nothing to play around with I started this shit at 17 and I haven’t found willpower to quit 3 years later. If you ever indulge please don’t take it everyday, there’s nothing worse then having a family trip for example and having to worry about how your gonna take it and have enough to last you, another thing is the price you pay, I have been wasting $100 dollars every month for 1,500 capsules, I take 60 capsules a day sometimes so it runs out a little bit over a month. I’ve never done painkiller pills or any other street opioids but I did start taking K as a teenager and still take as a young adult, but by far the worst negative has to be what it does to you, it makes you content with life no matter how bad it is, you won’t have a care in the world you won’t worry you won’t feel anxious you are emotionally numb, you no longer have the worries that normal humans have it’s a very strong substance that will grip you and change you so please be careful.

Do you mean Kratom did not work for you?

Haha

That one made my day

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lmao

Because they can't justify spending millions of taxpayer dollars fighting skydiving like they did with the drug alchahol but they figured out something way more peofitable 80 years ago.

Big government hasn't figured out a way to get a piece of the pie yet

Drug users will stop at nothing to justify their abuse. I've yet to meet one person who has taken drugs responsibly. They always want that mile when all they needed was an inch. Responsible drug use is meant to just get the job done and make you feel normal, it's not supposed to make you feel amazing. I.e. Joe taking 8 pills instead if two. It is 100% in our nature to abuse drugs. There's nothing to justify.

Screw up on skydiving your died no skin off the government budget. Mess up with drugs you could be addicted and then put on government programs costing money or brain dead and on life support costing the system again. Ppl don't understand about their shitty actions tax the system we are all apart of. Something's just cause more issues down stream and ppl don't get it. Fuck socialism but a lot of ppl can't handle freedom because when they mess up they expect a hand out from the government. Balance shit out by force in a Democratic way. You have to get rid of the hand outs so ppl can't fall back onto the system which I think that net is to broad for fuck ups.

@@descripto2586 many drugs will rewire your brain to justify taking it. Your own mind will work against you to convince yourself its okay to take the drug In order to deal with the cognitive dissonance of being an addict drug users will lash out at anything critical of their usage of the drug or the effects of the drug. They get extremely defensive They'll push it onto other people without even realizing what they're doing because their brains are subconsciously thinking if someone else is doing it then it isnt so bad for me to do it. Everyone overestimates their own willpower and when drug users try to argue moderation theyre talking about some utopian user that might hypothetically exist, but it isnt representative of their actual usage. There is no moderation. People who say they use in moderation are usually just addicts in denial, and if you pay attention to them it becomes very obvious. It's scary stuff when you learn how to recognize the addicts defensive response.

Gabapentin is great for nerve pain, I took both Lyrica, gabapentin and Kratom they work great

by getting you addicted to an opiate, not being mean man but that's not a good footing for a recovery, you should probably consider quitting.

Elias Mansion Records it’s an opioid, not an opiate. It acts like an Opiate but doesn’t share some properties

“It isn’t an opiate it’s an opioid” - things addicts say to make themselves feel better. Look if you want to take Kratom - do it. Just don’t go around saying it’s not addictive. That is dangerous. It is helpful for some people to get off opiates. However - staying on Kratom is not being “opiate free”. You are still addicted and reliant on a drug. Is it better than being addicted to Morphine - I think it is. It seems far less inhibiting. However if you are being honest you will admit there still have not been enough legit scientific studies on how this drug effects a human with prolonged use.

Christopher Echo I’m not an addict and don’t use Kratom, I was noting that they’re different. I never implied that it’s not addictive or dangerous so stop projecting.

@@christopherecho9783 dude fuck you and your AA bullshit

Michael Meek Wow. Congratulations. I am super happy for you. Of course our Government is mad at you. Go Figure?

@@greattunesking1 it was seriously getting out of hand i was spending over 4000$ a month on it i stopped making 45$ a hr and I could no longer afford it and something had to change

So does that mean you've been clean for 4 years, or you've just been supplementing your addition with Kratom too?

Well Im going to be completely honest for the most part ive been clean cept 2 single times in a year

Michael Meek how much do you take?

This is probably the best one

Fucking solid

I see what you did there, and I respect it greatly!

Nice 😂

@@zacharysnow2620 none of them are good though.. They're all lame unoriginal bullshit They should be ashamed of them fucking selves