“A bullet needs to be right once” Is such a hard ass line.

“A bullet only needs to be right once.” Fuck.

Well they also left the part out of the movie where Marcus was found will 9-10 full mags of ammo in his kit. Oh and there were only about 6-8 enemy fighters not the hundreds pictured in the movie. You can watch the actual video taken by the enemy.

I have to paraphrase a bit because it's been awhile since I watched it but Michael Palin put out a documentary about traveling the Himalayas and in it he talks about an Afghan village whose members have blond hair and blue eyes and speak Greek because they descend from the time of Alexander the Great's conquests. Imagine that kind of remoteness and isolation . Not to mention just how many times armies have tried to take this land .

I thought that the guy who saved Marcus Luttrell and took him into his home, said that the goat herder wasn't the one who warned the Taliban that the Seals were there. He said they already knew that the Seals were there due to the loud choppers they arrived on. That's how they were able to mobilize and track them so fast. I believe he also said that there was no more than 15 to 20 Taliban fighting against the Seals, which is still a heck of a lot of fire power for ANY four trained soldiers. That's why Luttrell and the guy who saved his life had a falling out. Because that guy had a problem with Hollywood's story. And didn't want to go along with the lie. At least that's what I saw on a documentary of Mohamed Gulab.

He's right about them being at war for so long. But it's crazy for them to still think they were at war with Russia when that ended in the 80's.

The problem I had with Lone Survivor is that Hollywood made it and said it was "the truth". In hindsight, it couldn't be further from the truth. If Hollywood had said, Lone Survivor is a tale of misfortune that involved ultimate sacrifice and full of incredible action, it may have been regarded as one of the best ever films of its genre. RIP to all who died.

I was a ground pounder in 2011, the whole thing about them thinking we were Russians is absolutely true.

People in Afghanistan haven't been at this since the 70s. They've been at it forever. Alexander had trouble with them.

A close friend of mine is a former Marine that had 2 deployments back during the Obama administration. He had told me he didn't agree with the Taliban's morals and religious ideologies, but he has always said he completely respected them as warriors. Said that they're some hard dudes.

This is so interesting man. Thank you for expanding the audience

Great interaction and interview…this is what you get when you don’t interrupt the guest

🔥 pod. Dope addition to the network, can't wait for more

When a former SEAL with all his kills say the Afghans were good fighters who can run up mountains...those have to be some scary dudes. Also his comment about a bullet only has to be accurate once is pretty deep.

The most talking thing, "If we were to quit right now, where are we going to go?"

Joe budden Turing into Joe Rogan?

I completely understand why you don’t want to talk to rappers anymore 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🥃 much respect 🫡

I dunno. I have saw conflicting stories. The other story is that there were not even close to the number of Takiban that Latrell claimed. That they knew the seals were there and it wasn’t the sheep herders that gave them away. Locals heard the choppers. Also Latrell was found with full mags. It is suspected he ran

Bro is about that life, salute to this Warrior.

Real hero’s don’t talk and profit off their actions.

Did anyone else get a MrBallen podcast ad for Amazon Music??? Wtf I thought KZfaq was spazzing out. I’m still not happy about the move but I’m happy another SEAL had gone on to happier things in retirement…. All these guys are such a major inspiration!!

"I wanted to see my daughter's get married", no pressure on the dude that wants to date your daughter or anything 😳

Got out after 16.5 years. He couldn’t hVe just become a cook, like Steven Segal? 😂 “We’ll, I cook too.”

As an Army vet, I have the upmost respect for Seals! They are badass..

Dope interview

Love this switchup from yall 🔥🔥🔥🔥

This is the type of content I been waiting for

2:10 chills

Need this full interview Joe

This is AMAZING AND FASCINATING! Joe please release more soon!!!!

This dude loves the camera time. Totally opposite of being a quiet professional.

The biggest thing they got wrong is the fact that Gulab contradicted just about everything Marcus said. Including finding him with his full load out, not a shot fired. But that’s an inconvenient little fact nobody wants to talk about.

When this story came out it was a huge topic of conversation in the long range reconnaissance community. Initially the recommendation was for army LRS to handle the job. They weren't because they didn't want to ask the army for help. Now army LRS had decades of experience in this mission and when we reformed the units back in the 80s we rewrote the doctrine and the subject of what to do when teams are compromised by civilians. They would have wound up in a shallow grave because the mission is paramount. We also had 6 guys for a reason. Any smaller and they lack the ability to defend themselves and larger and they can't hide. The SEALs should never have been given that mission and their arrogance kept them from seeing the clusterfuck it could turn into. Warfare is about using the right assets for the mission. It's amazing there was 1 survivor. But unfortunately we have to keep relearning lessons and trying to play catchup. The military thinks we don't need LRS teams and can do it with electronics.

👏🏼 we NEEDED this content

Great interview bro. I can see u taking that Joe Rogan space.

Great content Joe

This is such inside information I feel like I should be able to hear this. Best story teller ever.

Only thing the movie got wrong was they got compromised on insertion, way too many enemy combatants in the film, Marcus didn’t flatline, no triumphant victory battle, Shah was a minor player at the time that hadn’t killed any marines, SEALs were augmenting a Marine operation…it’s Hollywood….

There is an interview online with Gulab (the villagers who saved Marcus, but does not like him very much these days) who said there was at MOST 14 Taliban fighting against SEAL team 10 and both the villagers and the Taliban knew Americas were there....Which explains why they found them so fast. Do you think that is true?

“The only thing it got wrong was how steep the mountain was” lol, sure. Everything else was accurate 😂

I enjoy content like this Joe.

Thx 4 sharing.

"A bullet needs to be right once" is the most down to earth thing a man has ever said.

Mohammed Gulab say there was a lot of inaccuracy in the movie and Marcus lie.

Dude totally reminds me of the team guys I used to support.

I love his stories!!!

Mountain being so steep should been advantageous for the commandoes already up there

Even Iraqi's in the middle of Baghdad would sometimes assume we were French. Our unit was the first unit to switch to the ACUs, so I think it really through them for a loop and they thought we were a different country altogether.

Wonder when the full interview drop 👀

Drop the full Sode Joe I got mad time on these ppl clock 😭🤣

The movie got a lot of shit wrong. there’s video of the actual firefight and it’s only like 7-10 fighters at most, but really that’s all it would take if you were ambushed by guys who knew the terrain and had you outnumbered two to 1 but of course that doesn’t fit with the SEALS are invincible narrative so they made it like 100 fighters for the movie, also the guy who found Marcus said he found him with most of his kit still on, suggesting the gun fight was much more one sided than were led to believe.

Damn where can i find the rest of the interview tho??

Korengal.. two great documentaries

From what I heard Marcus had all his ammo and no injuries and there were no enemy Kia the entire seal team got smoked in like 7 min

Joe this is very interesting. I can listen to this guy tell the story all day, great story teller.

So many conflicting reports. The navy stories and then the rangers stories about when they came in to save them

I wonder what the SEAL TEAM community really thinks of Rob O Neill?

Marcus should have never have been sent to ST5. He was a opioid addicted mess in deployment to Ramadi.

Dude is on one

So I'm guessing/hoping this droppin tomorrow?.🙏✌️

Like I said... AMAZING!!!!

This is sickening. I’m so tired of this story getting told in every way but right.

A this man is a real national treasure, thank you so much for your service, you brought closure for my losses.

You know the movie was legit when the only thing he says they got wrong was how steep the mountains actually were. I was overly impressed at the fact that the firefight scenes were bang on. The changing of the mags, _(no Hollywood magazines)_ to hitting the bolt action, actual stoppages etc. The weapons handling drills was very well done. The chaos and carnage of a real fire fight was extremely well portrayed. Great movie.

Is this in patreon

Joe Budden presents: True Stories

That movie got a LOT of things wrong (as far as the book goes). Just like We Were Soldiers completely left out what happened at LZ Albany, which was more of a story, than X-Ray. I don't think anyone is buying the fact that a goat-herder turned them in. It's already been heavily insinuated that the Taliban knew they were in that area (because America forces have the tactile sensitivity of a rusty chainsaw. CH64's are as loud as a f%&king jumbo jet), and knew the SEAL's wouldn't kill unarmed civilians, so they sent in a goat herder with a radio for their own recon. Back then, we were a bull in a china shop, because we had yet to get our @sses handed to us. And, to a certain degree we're still like that. I believe Gulab said something along the lines that everyone knew they were there, they just didn't know how many. They heard that chopper throughout the entire valley. That said, you've gotta give props to these directors who attempt doing these war/battle movies, knowing it is literally impossible to capture the heroism, brutality, sensory-overload, and sheer trauma of combat. So, they know it's a failing undertaking before they even start. The same thing happened with the movie Red Platoon, which is a book that raised the hairs on the back of my f**king neck. Absolutely love Eastwood's son, and he played a great role, but nope...that didn't come close to the book either. And, last but not least....all those books only tell you what the military allows, so there's critical info that we're not "allowed" to know that would probably answer a lot of questions. Take a look at what we've learned about our gov't, and military brass since this battle, and nothing would surprise any of us. Why weren't those Blackhawk choppers available to assist the Chinooks when they went to get those SEALS out???? To this day, that info is "classified".

From the stories that have come out, & continue to come out, about Luttrell’s account of how this entire operation went sideways, they got EVERYTHING wrong about Lone Survivor!

If these movies and book deals have taught me anything, it's to be incredibly skeptical of any SEAL trying to sell his story.

lit ep.

Incredible

Amen 🙏 brother

Why does buddy look like the white mamba that played in Boston a few years back

Fascinating

Yes, also there was no 200 men big, hours long battle but rather a 5 mim ambush during which not more than 20 Talinans killed 3 SEALs suffering no casualties.

"The only thing that wasn't true was the mountains weren't big enough". How about the fact that "Lone Survivor" is a complete revision of the actual event? Marcus is said to have fled the battle long before his team members had perished. He was found with 11 mags of ammo, which was confirmed by Muhammed Gulab and the Rangers who rescued him. Eric Deming a former Seal, said that Marcus was spotted on a surveillance Predator drone running away. It was the Navy who had the book commissioned, because they didn't want people to know what really happened, because it would've embarrassed the Seals.

Oh you're joking this up he's going to go super stardom

Dawg look like Brian Scalabrine.

Y’all ever wonder what seal team 1-5 were busy doing??

So how come these experts on war didn't expect to run into a kid herding goats? Where did they think these people grazed their goats? No farm boys in the Seals? Once they met that kid the mission was over.

He said the movie didn't get right the scene when they are falling and how steep the mountains. If the movie seems so horrible and hard how much more the real geography and scene.

that boi on that good blow. He talkin a mile a minute

Drop it already.

Joe doesn't need a podcast with a team he Gucci solo

Since they didn't want to kill the goat herder, all they had to do when they ran into him and the kid was call for the helicopter, pick them all up, and drop off the goat herder and the kid off at a later time and abort the mission.

I know I'm getting the wrong end of the stick on this story completely, but surely a better response to 9/11 would have just been to increase airport security and secure all borders? As always when you invade another country, you've got the watch, but they've got the time.

The shitty thing is that there was a Special Forces FOB about 5 miles from the fighting that was going so the shitty part is the lack of communication. If these SEALs knew that then they could have made their way down there

Joe, show more respect for dudes like this, just saying

I've heard this said that the Taliban - like them or hate them - are so fucking fit compared to even western special forces. They live all the time in those mountains and are conditioned to super human levels by our standards.

RIP Danny 🍻

First thing is the name "Lone Survivor", it should either be Sole Survivor or just Survivor.

Rob McNeil is the biggest waffler going

What episode is this?

Thank God America has guys like him and his fellow soldiers 🇺🇸

I was wakeboarding up in Canada in the ocean and a seal popped up right next to me in the water.. Scared the shit out of me.. and that was the other kind of seal.

Great to see a fellow Red Wings veteran

op Red wings 06/28/05 my 1st military operation 2nd blt 3rd Marines

Yooooo!

Damn

I wish O'Neill would just stick to the OSB operation, he loves to talk about, instead of chirping about things Luttrell has addressed many times, in many places, on many platforms.