except when it does...

Scott Malcolm Do you follow everything in the old testament? Leviticus in particular? Because the verse about 'mankind should not lye with mankind as with womankind for it is an abomination before God ' is right after the verse about wearing mixed linens being an abomination. And the Bible does not make a distinction between one or the other being worse. Have you ever worn a polyester cotton blend? Then that's an abomination just the same. Ever shaved your beard, if you're a man? Abomination in Leviticus. Eating shellfish like shrimp and lobster? Abomination before gods eyes. Please don't be a hypocrite.

Jo Molly - All the things about food does not apply now. Because Yeshua/Jesus also said anything that goes out of a person makes them either clean/unclean, not what comes in (from the outset). All those things about hair, food, clothing was used to separate GOD's ppl which were the (original) Jew from ppl not of GOD. Now the chosen ppl of GOD/YHWH are those that follow YESHUA/Jesus†, regardless of culture, race, etc. read Revelation 7:9-15. Yeshua's teaching of (actual) love sums up the 10 Commandments which sums up all 600+ laws. As far as it concerning homosexuality, read what Yeshua said: Matthew 19 & Mark 10. "No one should split apart what GOD has joined together."

@Natalie God forgive you. In the meantime the Lord Jesus Christ specifically said he came NOT to abolish the Law. Likewise Paul said we ESTABLISH the Law.

It's not God's word. It's man's word. If it's not in the Commandments or the Gospels, it was not said by God, or His Son. Homosexuality is NOT WRITTEN IN EITHER. If it was that important, He would have mentioned it. Something He did mention was loving one another. So really, we should all be going at it with anyone we love. Except cousins. That's gross.

Thats what's scary

HE is the same GOD who wiped out the whole world saving only 8 people and rained fire to Sodom and Gomorrah.

Rick Cata Why? Is that because you say so?? Is it because some book that's been translated many times through the 2000+ years that was written by humans say so?? The book that has several pieces removed from some Christian church Bibles, but has them added in the Catholic Bible?? Or is it the various "Chosen Ones" thoughout history who thought their version of what they felt the bible means is right?? Why are there sooo many "Christian" sects out there who feel THEIR church is THE correct church...such as Jehovahs Witness, Mormonism, Catholicism, Church of Christ, etc?? They were all created by MAN. Fallable MAN. Not God. God is love, therefore anything that is not love cannot be God.

True Janey Sue the bible has been rewritten so many times by the Catholic church we don't even know whats true only what humans say,the ORIGINAL bible wasn't even written by professional writers in AD,most of the "laws" of God were lost with the arc of the Covenant so the 10 commandments we look at today were made by MAN not God so who's to say what's right and wrong like homosexuality for say,during the ruling of the Catholic church there was no separation between church and state so what the church said went and most of the people in the Catholic church hated gay people.

That's right. God never changes his mind.

+bara moso I think he means he's not one to judge.

+bara moso So true!! I am scared of people like this. Swing here and swing there. People who dont stand for something will fall for anything and will drop you in a fif cause they got no side , no opinion or back bone!!!

Amen brother Amen. There is an epidemic of luke warm Christianity.

+TheDarcyChloe They will be known by their fruits.

+r1234 I think passing judgements really refers to condemning saying someone is going to hell etc, which we really don't have a right to do since that's God's job.

IronMindTX Amen

IronMindTX did you even watch the video??

The scripture says thou shalt not steal.........BUT.....your sins can be forgiven through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Huh?!

This guy is the definition of a fraud and a hypocrite!!!

there are many examples where it does.

flashbodie1​ fair enough...yeah God was willing to spare Sodom if lot could find one righteous person....but he couldn't....I submit that it was a lesson for lot more then anything

Good thing God is fiction.

+Summeraye Clark easy to say, isnt it? especially when youre too cowardly to ask him into your life. not with vain words like "save me Jesus", but with your heart. God wants people who truly seek him and he will let those testify of him. God bless!

Greetings @Summeraye Clark In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth(Genesis 1:1). Let us ( speaking to Jesus, Holy Spirit and those around Him) make human beings so that they are like us (Genesis 1:26). Let's examine: What if the multitude of Christians following Jesus are on to something? Do you really want to wait and find out after your spirit has been called to leave this world and step into your eternity?

He doesn’t know the truth, he only bends the Bible to His truth.

U going to hell

because Osteen is a scammer!

Amen Luke warm Christian I just spoke on that 🙏

My thoughts exactly

This guy makes God sick to his stomach

Joel Osteen is hot. Jesus Christ did not come to condemn the world. (see John 3:17)

Hes a people pleaser

No he does not. It's a fine line. Gays will enter his kingdom and some will not.

@@teresabonita1505 not according to the Bible; It's just your foolish thoughts. God tells us plenty of times, you're going to hell.

Aphiwe Matyolo I am straight lol thank you

Aphiwe Matyolo He is saying he is a Christian pastor

FACTS‼️💯💯💯

Jesus Christ spent time with sinners and ate food with them, and the Pharisees were the ones that complained about it. But Jesus did not condone their sin. Christians are in the world but not of the world. A Christian might attend a gay marriage, but that doesn't mean he approves of it. Christians are a light in the darkness. I'm pretty sure one of the last places the devil wants Joel Osteen to bring his light to is at a gay marriage.

Anthony Griffin so you believe in the devil?

AMEN! Jesus is always in fashion;)

AMEN!!

​@@Mansandanfan4335 How do you know he's "dead"? Because he Ressureceted.

and Jesus NEVER said a word about gays, NEVER ‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼

Because an ancient text with people with a far different world view really isn't and never really should be an ultimate authority of these things...

Jeremiah Gibson But God doesn't change. So if it was wrong then that means it's wrong now.

nodoubt257 he just realizes its such a minor meme to get distracted with, the bible says we are all sinners and jesus said he who is without sin cast the first stone and the anti gay stance is from the old testament and we threw out alot of other things from the old testament like sacrificing lambs everyday for sins we made, theres much more important issues than if someones gay or not i mean for goodness sake its not even one of the ten commandments and i would sooner find much more people who have broken those then who are gay.

cody collier Okay. God will cast the first stone.

Yea, that's always the reason stupid people come up with similar to calling another person "racist" b/c of a disagreement. You need a better basis than your opinion.

For i say unto the "if you follow my commands you will have in heaven abundance of beer, strippers, and free to touch my noodly appendages." -FSM

+Zach Dyer I outreach to the streets telling about Jesus.

compromised his self to respect man, and not stand on GODs word....

So true. Unfortunately most Christians are very luke warm these days. As the bible says, they will be spit out because they are not hot or cold.

What the heck are you talking about!? Should he have jumped on the table and said all gays are going to hell? I guess he may as well have said all drunks, liars, thieves, etc are going as well... man get off your self righteous soapbox and realize that Jesus ate and hung out with the same sinners you condemn

@Emja10 For the scripture to change God Himself would have to change. Scripture says: God is the same yesterday and today and forever (Hebrews 13: 8). We have to change! God bless you!

I agree. Well lets just put it this way "Religion has become a business industry"

the times should move with church

"Do not conform to this world" How much clearer can that be?

Really when was the last time someone was stoned to death?

Your daughter doesn't stop being your daughter because she's a lesbian. You think she chose to be gay?! Why would she CHOOSE to be something she knows she's gonna get drama for?! It's every girl's dream to be walked down the aisle by her daddy. Go and support her as your daughter not as a homosexual person. Please.

RocketRoketto I applaud this man for staying true to the Lord. You can still love the person, but not have anything to do with something so perverted as a gay wedding.

***** marriage comes from God and is from the Bible this secular world has nothing to do with marriage ,marriage was ordained by God and for the honor of God, marriage is sacred, you can't just attach it to anything you want to latch it onto

nswarrior thank you very much, I love my daughter with my whole heart, but I won't let her force me to condone something that she knows better and was taught better. she will appreciate me later for sticking to what I believe is right

DEROY CREWS Amen and Amen!

@Eva are you Hungarian??

@@gilianelove5549 Hello, yes, I am, how did you guess?

@Eva Toth I guessed through your name. I live in Budapest ..where do you live? Maybe we could meet..

@@gilianelove5549 Hi Giliane Love, I dont live in Budapest, actually I am not in Hungary at the moment: I will return in December... good for you...4 more month and I'll be back in my homland, too...I live in Debrecen, btw.

Lol I wouldn't have went either

final_boss_nemesis so two people in love is wickedness?

That's a huge disrespect btw

And how about respecting my choice to believe the word of God. Gays want respect, how about respect us not to even invite us to your wedding.

@@debragilbert1019 That's a silly thing to say, if they respected you, you would be invited to their wedding in the same way you would be invited by anyone in your circle of friends or church family. You get the right to choose your faith, gay people have the right to Express their love through the union of marriage. God NEVER taught that hate in your heart that's very much your doing. It's very possible to show kindness & compassion for a gay person and stay true to your faith. Pope francis and many many people in my church do it all the time!!

Who defines sin? God? So gay marriage is just another of the millions of excuses God would have to torment human beings for eternity? Sounds like you worship more out of fear from a vengeful all powerful deity than out of love. Faith isn’t a choice. Obviously the God of Love wants to torture at least most of his creation for all of eternity. I respect you but I CANNOT SUPPORT your irrational fear.

Wow. That Yahweh guy sounds like a douche.

Monster Movie Maniac He created you in His image, so that means your a douche.

JDebate That's weird. I thought my parents created me when my father's sperm cell entered my mother's egg cell's nucleus and genetic information was passed on. Guess I was wrong and I magically floated down from the sky by this egocentric "Yahweh" dickhead who created me out of nothingness.

He created you before you were conceived. Even before the foundations of the earth were formed!

Monster Movie Maniac God created man, man duplicated and eventually your parents were born, then they got married, then you were born, but God knew you before the foundations of the world.

WELL SAID and TRUE

you fell away from God when you condoned all the child sex abuse within the church walls then condemned gays....Please stop pretending to be holy!!!!

Georgia Sturtzel who condoned that?

Maybe he’d be a better pastor if actually went to Bible College and became a theologian.

Watch videos by Timothy Jennings.

@@jerryschmidt1834 you are very correct

Amen

i agree

What’s wrong with that

Yeah

Loll

You may not be performing the abortion but you are are supporting it.

Well said Sister God bless you.

Liliana Kaspar hmmm...attending a surgical procedure that terminates a fetus is actually not the same as attending a ceremony where two people pledge eternal love and commitment to each other. Terrible analogy is terrible.

The analogy is attending and watching people committing abomination before The Living God. But I think same sex marriage is insulting to GOD who said "No to marriage" but then they will gather people around and call on or invite the presence of GOD knowing full well that it is abomination before GOD.

That comparison is absolutely absurd!

He was purposely trying to get Joel to say whether he hates gays or not in front of the world.

+Jakey Cross And (supposedly) being a man of God he should have been able to answer all questions with a quick Yes or No. He is fumbling around for answers and trying not to offend anyone. False prophet!

+fbody984life yep!

yeah your right

*****

+Chubby Luna He sorta is a politician; he's clearly primarily in it for the money, and I say that as someone who is staunchly pro-gay. In a way he's sort of a study in the dangers of attempting to split the middle in an unprincipled way.

Lee Duon I agree. But why preach the Bible in your church and later contradict its teachings in public? This maybe one of the reasons why many abandon their faith for another because the leader is weak. For the love of money is the root of all evils. He is truly disappointing. I used to read some of his books.

+Chubby Luna I think that if you find inspiration in some of what he has to say, you should be able to keep that without having to be beholden to his character as a whole.

Lee Duon Well maybe. But still, consistency and integrity is the key. If you start contradicting yourself then you subject yourself to mockery and people will start to doubt you. As a leader, you don't want that to happen because consequences can be devastating. Look at what happened to Jimmy Swaggart. After the sex scandal, things never was the same again. Even if he apologised, there was no turning back because trust was lost. Another is Ted Haggard where he fell into homosexuality. Though he admitted it publicly, his church crumbled like a deck of cards and there was no turning back.

+Chubby Luna But why? I would argue that both Swaggart and Haggard were obvious frauds who relied on a kind of personal charisma rather than an anchor to their beliefs. Once that is exposed for what it is, it becomes unsustainable to rely on that kind of person for further moral instruction. I would juxtapose that with someone like Pat Robertson, who I think both deeply believes and financially profits, and moreover with someone like one's local street corner pastor, who acts from faith with little to no profit. I think you probably won't agree with me, but I would argue that Haggard probably is simply a gay man who sought out a dissociative sexual relationship because he couldn't openly have the kind of meaningful romantic relationship that he was wired for. I could begin to trust someone like that if they owned that their attraction was something that persisted in spite of their faith; a Haggard who chose abstinence or who at the very least admitted that it was not merely some kind of temptation to be "prayed away" would be a person I would at least suspect was telling the truth. To my knowledge he has never done that.

His word says not to tolerate the company of false Christians though. They are leaven that spreads through the dough.

amen

Jesus NEVER said a word about Gays. You are trying to live your life according to the Old Testament, that was written over 2,000 years ago. We have evolved. Remember, Jesus NEVER said a word about gays!

Oh of course, quote a few verses from the bible and then everyone will have no option but to believe!!! The "living word of God," poppycock!

Don't. Worry God knows who belongs to Him.

Melody Diaz ... exactly! I'm an atheist but if he gave that answer to me I would completely understand it from his religious stand point, it was like Piers didn't have the mental capacity to grasp what he was saying! So fucking annoying... he was just doing it for a headline or a KZfaq hit he's such a sell out

Because Joel flip flops on his answers. He says he stands by the Bible. He tells him the Bible says it not ok with homosexuality. But that he is.

Secular Humanist Its like u claiming your an atheist but your ok with going to church with friends.

Ismael Carrillo ... I'm an atheist but I celebrate Christmas how about that? It's just a cultural thing, it's nice to unwind at the end of the year and catch up with family, but officially I could be called a hypocrite, but like I say it has no spiritual meaning to me it's just a cultural thing that I think is nice

Secular Humanist ok now u have me even more perplexed. I will not judge you or anybody for that matter. I know you don't believe in God. And I don't believe in a One horned pink elephant in a hula hoop. But just to be an open optimistic person. I would be willing to pray one time to it. Would you be willing to pray to God? Nothing fancy or scriptural. Just a little reverence. What do we have to lose.

@@theterriblegod Why on why gayism is wrong, or about attending a gay wedding?

He’s so fake it’s disgusting

@Belltown Daisy not true. With God all things are possible.

He's a shill.

Then obviously you know nothing of scripture or really too much else by opening with calling somebody who you don't know a moron. Shows you need some growing up to do, kid.

What part of my original comment offended you...somebody who could've if acting like an adult, could've ignored the comment or just replied maturely, but your initial response was to already degrade it without any basis of fact. I know what God says through the Bible that teaches me and settles it. Like I said before, grow up if you want to talk to me and I'll be more than glad to do so.

WOW. -_-

This thought you have that we either hate or love god comes from the bible. I don't believe in any god and certainly not the bible. I would have to believe there was a god to either love or hate him/her. Your post is certainly ridiculous because it assumes all people must believe in a god.

Then if you don't believe in God, why are you responding to my post? Ridiculous to who, Brittney? You, perhaps, but if you don't believe, that's up to you. However, don't go on here parading your views while denigrate other people's views. That just inciting trouble.

Prove it please so we can move on.

@@seivaDsugnA - If your conscience is seared, you've already moved on - to a reprobate mind. No one and nothing can help you see ANY truth in the Savior who died to set you free yet who you reject. You're *choosing* Hell and you don't even realize it. I pray you wake up.

@@TheMistysFavs There is no evidence that praying does anything to affect reality. Your pronouncement that a book compiled of passages written by people is the "word of God" requires substantiation.

Right, Pierce contested so hard like he’s gay and like it’s Joel’s word and not God’s. It appears in this and Oprah interview with Joel they want so bad for him and God to condone this sin.

We are all facing God as individuals on judgement day. We shouldn't be worrying about what GOD is going to be saying to other people. We should be worrying about what HE'S going to be saying to us. God's will. This ain't no joke or a play thing period, point, blank. Let God be God, and stop trying to find something to ridicule and judge others about.

​@@ladennayoung2939 Your comment goes against The Bible

Jesus never said a word about Gays

@@josephsf2452 That's because The Old Testament did.

Jesus never said a word about Gays

nswarrior I'm a gay married man. I think I'm helped enough as I have a successful and happy relationship. The right course as a follower of Christ is to actually follow Christ and accept people for their diversity. We have thousands of religions out there and I personally don't care what people choose to believe in. What Joel is doing is being a worldly person and accepting that there will always be a variety of beliefs whether you agree to them or not. Don't force your opinion because YOUR god might say something but another person's god might say something else and you are no more right or wrong than the next person. Not until we die will we have our answers so rather than live in a world where we can't accept that people are allowed to live their lives with religions and beliefs separate to your own, state your opinion, yes, but don't judge a person's character based on where you disagree - that's childish. How awful would it be if we had doctors and psychologists judging people before they get to know them? If we can't trust a professional who judges us on personal things why should we trust ordinary people who do the same?

Gavrila Polovinkin The point is God gave us revelation through His scriptures. What you are doing is being your own god. If you really believed God wanted you to leave the homosexual life style would you leave it? Probably not. Just like the rich young ruler in the gospel you live for the temporary. We can't plead ignorance because the word of God is right before our eyes. It's the word of God that will judge you in the end.

nswarrior You must have missed 50% of my post. No where did I mention what kind of Christian I am. But also understand there are other faiths such as hinduism and Buddhism which do not condemn the homosexual 'lifestyle' which really isn't a lifestyle. I'm not on some new diet. If I believed that God wanted me to stop being gay I would, only I don't believe God wants me to. My God is different to your God and there is no way in saying whose God is more correct. We can argue over the Bible but it's been re-written by the Vatican and the Puritans many many times. The word homosexual never appeared in the Bible until the mid 1900's infact. For that reason, I treat my religion as not a rule book, but a guideline. Besides, who am I hurting? No one. What I do with my life is personal and my own business as much as your life is personal and your own, but even despite our differences and disagreements my faith and religious beliefs as well as my own personality as a human being wouldn't lead me to dislike you or to disrespect you. I get annoyed at the pro-gay crowd who hound on and attack people with different opinions. I just wish for a future where we can put our differences aside and have respect for each other. I'm sure Christ would want us to come together as a collective, respectful community first and let us turn to scripture personally when we need help.

Sir, you are a not a Christian at all. It is not God's will that you have sex with another man any more than it is his will for you to have sex with a farm animal. If you are sincere about wanting to please God than be obedient to Him. Followers of Christ are supposed to bare witness to the truth. It is no witness at all to be a practicing homosexual and say you are a believer. It brings shame on the Body of Christ. Repent(change the way you think) before it is too late, or you will pay the price for living such an ungodly lifestyle.

nswarrior I'm fine with you not believing I'm a Christian because after all your judgement doesn't matter. And my partner is in the military - a whole lot of no sex happening. Difference between him and a farm animal is that we are consenting, loving adults. I think there may be more of a problem with you since you seem to first think about my sex life than my love life. I want to please my God, not your God. And I will pay the price that God has for me whether it be heaven, hell, nothingness or reincarnation - we will never actually know until judgement, so in this life I will continue living how I believe is right which is not harming anyone or even breaking any laws. You can have your opinion, but understand there are opinions alternate to yours. If you believe that being gay is a sin, then you have a responsibility to not be gay. I on the other hand don't - so in my faith, in my interpretation of scripture and Christ, I won't perceive it as sin. As society changes, so will Christianity - unless you still believe that slavery should be legal, people should be killed for wearing clothes of mixed fibers and that people should be stoned to death for adultery. While you hold onto your belief of what Christianity is, in 20 years it will shift - it's why we have so many dominions (Church of England, Protestant, Orthodox etc)

@ Kemuel Biritwum Homosexuals and feminists have the same vile agenda : ruining the beautiful attraction between the male pool and the female pool. And they are now in the body of Christ as the fiercest enemies of God trying to force their demonic views on Christians.

Either you believe in God or you don't. If you believe in God then you know we were made in HIS image. Homosexuality is naturally occurring. This has been proven, it's not a choice. If you believe it's a choice, ask yourself why would anyone CHOOSE to be gay if it will cause them to be made fun of or treated like shit!? They don't choose it! Most of them wish they weren't gay! Fuck! Use your fucking brain please!

Yeah, it's getting weaker and weaker as time goes on. In our internet age, standing up for Biblical principles that are very unpopular are not easy. Even Joel Osteen is a little wishy-washy on this one, although I think Piers backed him into a corner pretty good. He gave him a very difficult question to answer.

I like Joel because he's a good person from what I see.

Michael Harrington Yes , but true men are not afraid of offending people . Just think about the prophets in the old Testament and the way they rebuked rebellious Israel.

they aren't following Christ. False prophets who will have to answer one day. Well God I didn't want to offend them. I'd rather offend you. Will you forgive me for turning away from you in public? Jesus says those who deny me in public I will deny before my father. Joel and Victoria repent now.

Yes, people are looking for ways to criticize them and they'll be criticized either way which is why it's especially important they stand on scripture alone.

Oh absolutely and notice he says out of respect,or he wouldn't say your aren't good enough,or Victoria if I had time get real people it isn't about us comparing to brother joe down the street or sister Barbara on the other side of town it's about confronting to word of God believing the word of God and living by the word of God and that's whether you get your feelings Hurt or not

+Sandra A The fact that you just used the word "Hate" makes me disappointed in you. I think you are getting it wrong. As a follower of Christ we are supposed to show love and respect to each other no matter who we are. What do people expect him to do? I mean is he supposed to say I hate gays and think they are disgusting? Thats not right and that is not what God wants us to do. We are supposed to ACCEPT them and LOVE them just as we would eachother. That doesn't mean we think it is right, but we are all sinners. God LOVES the sinner and for that he provided a way out of sin, but how can they do that if the church hates them? As far as the invitation to the wedding... well let me say this. If a man and a woman were getting married and you attending it would be just the same as attending a gay wedding. The reason why? because ALL SIN IS THE SAME. There is not good sin or bad sin or alright sin. Its ALL bad and ALL is equally bad. Being homosexual is just as bad as lying or stealing or judging.

Nanyyynana_ kpoplove What does ACCEPT them mean and also when she said hate it's true God hates all sin she didn't say he hates all sinners its scripture is what she quoted

When I say accept I don't mean like accept their sin and you know be like "Oh no your fine your going to heaven" because obviously thats not true. I mean accept them as people. If we want them to give their souls to Christ we as their Christian brothers and sisters should not condem them to hell and be hateful to them because if their sin. It all starts with love. If they can see that we are not evil people and that we are loving the way God was then that is what gets them to question us and curious about God. In the bible Jesus ate in the house of zachias (not sure if thats spelled right) yet he was a theif, cheat and liar. But Jesus said you are a son of God and despite your sin I will sit in your house and eat with your family. Because of this kindness that no one had shown zachias before he began to change and re pay the people he cheated. We need to take examples like that from God to show them we are all sinners, but we can help eachother as best we can come closer to God. 

Jaqualin Pennyman But one thing I do agree with is that he doesn't really preach on the rath of God or the ugly side of the world. He only talks about the positive, which isn't bad, but he needs to tell people EVERYTHING. So I can see people being upset there, but for some people to call him a "fake profit" or "Liar from hell" is a bit extreme because he isn't lying, but he isn't saying everything. I do think God uses him and I think he has a gift, but he should tell people about hell and etc.

I agree with you brother. The purpose of living is to please God, not the people. We must always have the courage to speak the truth, no matter what people say. :) iseek Him

***** What are the connotations for those laws you're referring to Aiden?

Ah ok good because you are correct, Leviticus does contain pretty much all of the laws from the Bible. Of which there are 3 categories of laws: 1-Ceremonial 2-Civil and 3-Moral. They're pretty distinguishable and it's generally very easy to tell which one's belong where. As you stated before The Bible depicts Jesus as coming to fulfill the law not do away with it. And the law to which Jesus was referring is the ceremonial laws (and for reference the ceremonial laws are abstaining from certain foods, circumcision, sacrifices for sins etc.) But after Jesus' death which is known to be the final sacrifice, we no longer have to abide by those laws since they were to guide the Jewish people in their worship of God. But Jesus came for all, Jew and Gentile, and I not being a Jew and believing that Christ did that, am no longer held to those laws. That's the explanation for why there are certain laws in Leviticus that modern Christians no longer adhear to. Speaking on the law of the Sabbath, which is part of the 10 commandments, therefore it is not abolished; but it says to rest and keep the sabbath holy, Jesus speaks on it in Luke 6 in which he says at one point “I ask you, is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do harm, to save life or to destroy it?” And basically what he's saying is that while we should rest from work, that does not mean ALL necessary work. I for one would never forbid a doctor to heal a patient just because it was the sabbath day. but I work a minimum wage job and i do ask for Sundays off. There used to be laws about companies/stores not being open on Sundays but sadly society has changed from that, but that was their individual decisions. As for your question on stoning etc. that was part of the civil law, which addressed how the society should govern themselves. They are laws that are not applicable in today's society. The reason being is that pre-Jesus' coming the people of God were the Israelites. In other words the people of God were determined by an ethnic group or their geographical location. *Now* the people of God are no longer an ethnic group, but rather their common faith in Jesus Christ. The Bible instructs people to follow those who are in authority over them and, being under the authority of the law today saying stoning is not an acceptable form of punishment toward someone who breaks a law, if someone were to approach me and ask if I were going to participate in a stoning I would ultimately refuse. I understand it does appear quite confusing but like other things it does take some studying with the intent of actually learning something, but I hope I've explained it as clearly as possible and I hope you're reasonable enough to see where I'm coming from. If not, I'll be happy to try and clarify.

I didn't mean to come across as patronizing, sorry. That wasn't my intention. How would I know that you were SDA? You only professed to being an atheist. In my opinion I honestly don't think God would care which day of the week it was, just as long as I devoted a day to Him. But with regard to homosexuality, I had no idea that they proved it to be genetic. When did this happen?

Yea, I'm sure you speak against people getting divorced and remarrying, and marrying someone who is divorced, like Jesus did? No you don't, you cherry picking hypocrite!

this is not a small statement. it is a big one. if you decide to make an interview on the issue be just prepared. and ask for the wisdom of God. it is just sad to have such answer from a minsiter of our Lord, very sad!

Which is worse for a minister of our Lord, being cornered by an interviewer with a ridiculous question to get an answer they want, or writing an entire book denying that Jesus claimed to be the Messiah? (In Defense of Israel by John Hagee). I tend to lean toward the second myself. Just be aware that there are heinous heresies being taught by many of these in the Zionist camp. They want the church to embrace Judaism all over again....the same thing that Paul wrote much of the New Testament concerning. Joel is a minister of hope and encouragement, not Judaism nonsense. Just food for thought brother.

Fair comment Matt, you are a true Christian, but I have to warn you as I do with everyone else that Joel is a false teacher. I think Piers is purely trying to prod Joel for a definitive, straight forward answer. Piers knew he wouldnt get one from Joel and all he and his producers are interested in is controversy for show ratings. And Joel is only doing TV interviews for publicity and the money.

Adam Goodword What basis do you use to classify Joel as a false teacher? I can list a multitude of Scriptures, basically the whole New Testament, for folks like Hagee, Larry and Tiz Huch, Stone, Marcus Lamb and all the other Dispensational Zionists, who diminish and belittle the Church of the Lord Jesus in favor of some fanciful future kingdom in Jerusalem, Israel. The Lord Jesus received His Kingdom (Acts 2), and certainly does not need their senseless dribble about identifying "antichrist", what's the "mark of the beast" going to be, and a future "great tribulation". Each of these can be specifically seen in Scripture, from an authentic and historic interpretation. Hagee, in particular, with his aforementioned book, is particularly heinous. This is the logical conclusion to Dispensationalism - that Jesus was not or failed to be the Messiah. Its as if they have elevated the nation of Israel to a place that's almost their god. I've yet to hear anything this egregious from Joel.

A successful CHURCH preaches Jesus Christ crucified and risen, preaches sin and repentance. That's not such a successful "church."

Is this another one of your theological or worldly observations? Can you explain to me what your opinion on someone else's 'look' has to do with biblical truth?

Son Ne Nothing . It was just a joke !

Do you realize that you will also one day hold yourself accountable for your jokes?

Son Ne Isn't that man a false teacher ?

What does that have to do with you? He clearly knows a lot more about the Bible than you do!!! How does this give you the right to call him names? Are you just pretending to be so slow or is this real?

Man. U preach it!! 😎👍🏾

good job!!!

+Yostina Akram Akram talking to me hun? or the other guy no matter I still love you all hehe :)

He does seem to not have the, what I consider, "easy" answer, but he is still genuine I believe.

Jeanne Atkinson There is little that is genuine about this so-called preacher. The whole time he is speaking, he is trying to figure out how he is not going to offend somebody.

You pegged him exactly! Let me paraphrase a verse in Revelations....be hot or cold towards me but don´t be lukewarm .

AmaznGrace Excellent verse! AMEN! There are many false teachers in American churches today. Unfortunately, false teachers lead to false converts.

scottty500 Which remember in reality is no converts at all. Read Matthew 7:15-23, especially verses 21-23 to find out the end result. Let's just say...it ain't pretty!

Jesus convicted the sinners to turn away from their son. He never left them in the their life of sin. Tax payers and the prostitute at the well changed to an evangelist to the city.

The taxpayers and the prostitute are still sinners. So are you, and so am I. Even Paul the Apostle said he was still a sinner. And we will all die sinners.

he's not participating

+Ana de Siqueira true

renee Mitchell Amen

renee mitchell ... how is participating?

@@Lvcharm -- When you attend a wedding, you ARE participating in it, whether you know that or not..Thus you are condoning what God hates. It's not rocket surgery to figure that out.

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God didn’t create Gay people. He created man and woman .

Are you saying they are not good Christians??

Nope, not at all. I didn't say that they were good at anything, except making a fortune selling their version of the Word of God. What I am saying is that they are not true Christians. There is only one true Word, and it ain't what they portray to those who follow them. The Word of God is not to be sold for a profit. It would be more accurate to say that they are closer to being like the "sodomites" from the days of Sodom and Gomorrah. They are a perfect example of the "deceivers" that would come to us in Jesus' name after His death, and Resurrection. Jesus spoke of them just before He was crucified.

Kenny Starr-they're more Christ like than idiots like Peter Popoff, John Hagee, Ken Ham, Ray Comfort, Paula White, Pat Robertson, or any other peddler of nasty judgemental bullshit that you probably worship and hand all your money over to...

Fred Barnes Jr. Wrong my friend. I do not exchange money for the Word of my Saviour, to any "rock star preacher" who worships false Idols, and a Hollywood persona, i.e. "the glamorous lifestyle of the rich and famous". I (give) my gifts, to help children who are terminal cancer patients, and I help my friends get through personal issues with moral, and spiritual help. That is what (I) do. You do what you feel is best for your own soul. The choice was given to us when Jesus taught the multitudes. Think about it. p/s I would appreciate it, if you would stop cursing me for trying to please my Father. Happy Trails

My apologies to you sir....carry on and god bless

Exactly. If we don't hear the raw deal from preachers of the Faith where are we supposed to hear it?

Joseph, he is not soft. He is what the Bible talks about in the end times (False Prophet) along with all the other Prosperity Preachers?

agemorJD obviously because your hear is filled with hate and you have no compassion.

You might want to consider the verses that speak about being loving when speaking the word, in addition, always remember that you have a tree growing out of your eye. Believe, Love, Judge-Not, Walk the walk, and always speak the truth with love in your heat.

Jay Luna So, my brother, there are homosexual people in my family and I love them dearly, but I would not attend a gay wedding even in my family. I don't attend family activities if I know there will be alcohol or certain type of music. I demonstrate my love for them all year around, but I must make a living statement with my actions. If I don't, I would be accepting their sin. I accept and love them, but I cannot partake of their sin. By this preacher attending a gay wedding of people he loves because they're friends, he's encouraging them in their sin. How is doing that, loving them? Can you explain?

9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people- 10 not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler-not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church[b] whom you are to judge? 13 God judges[c] those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.” That comes from 1 Corinthians 5:9-13. Basically saying that we should not associate with the immoral, yet not necessarily all immoral people because that would entail everyone on the planet. It says "those who take up the name of brother" meaning those who call themselves Christian, yet are not living it out. If this couple getting married were from his church, and claiming to be followers yet obviously not living it out, according to scripture, he should refrain from attending the wedding. And that does not mean "hate them"; just because he doesn't go to their wedding doesn't mean he detests them. What Joel needs to learn is that he shouldn't be so wrapped up in being "politically correct" to avoid stepping on anyone's toes. Truly following Jesus is going to make some people angry. Jesus' teachings were so controversial that the Pharisees were up in arms about it and plotted to have him crucified. Jesus spoke Truth, not simply what people wanted to hear.

Jedediyah Aaron Yisrael regardless of what side you're on, he's not a preacher, like most preachers he's a billionaire con man.

Truer words have never been spoken. Some Christians cringe when other Christians tell non-believers that sin is sin and you need to repent. In fact some christians do want to offend people, either they're ashamed of the Gospel OR they'd rather please man than God. Hey I'll be the first one to admitt it BUT Now I know that a high price was paid for me and would good would I be doing if I don't glorify the one who saved me. We are to be the light of the world, showing those in darkness toward truth and life and forgivenss. God bless

***** It seems that rather than being the "light of the world," bible believers are intent on returning civilisation to the Dark Ages.

WHICH? Bible Believers are intent on bringing people back to the Dark Ages. Christ Lord never came to bring Religion, he addressed that to the Pharisees. He came to set the captives free from the World System which is under Satan's Kingdom. He said MY Kingdom is NOT of this world. Satan did show Christ LORD his kingdoms on the Mount of Temptation. Those who profess Christ as their Redeemer, are purchased with a price and are reborn to His Spirit and are promised much more than you can imagine as to any past or present age EVER had to show you. It is the religion of Islam, which is far removed from Christianity, because they are on the script of the Antichrist Spirit, not the Spirit of Truth as Christ Lord said He IS. You can't come to the forum to speak with no knowledge. You have to know what God said before you criticize. This world is temporal, the Kingdom of God to come is Everlasting. Good Bible teachers are out there for anyone who has an ear for Truth, as Christ Lord said he who has an ear, let him hear. Christ Lord said I AM the Truth, and you have to love Truth, to walk in Truth, that is why reading and knowing the Word of God arms you that knowledge so you know what is of Truth and what is of the Liar, without that knowledge you are threading on enemy territory with no protection against the evil entity that comes to Kill, rob, and destroy. That is why we are told to put on the WHOLE ARMOR of God, and google it to know what that armor is, because without it, you do fall to the enemy, Satan.

TheLionofJudah You say Christ said all these things. No. Ancient scriptures tell us a man called Christ said these things. I personally don't believe these ancient scriptures.

IAN STRANGE Well that is your problem, how much time and effort have you invested to read and study the Scripture. Zero. So you are speaking from a blind spot, and that is the problem. God said MY PEOPLE perish for lack of knowledge. You have to take a vacation away from yourself to discover God, many people don't want to do that because the prophesy reads in the latter day, people will be lovers of themselves, and Satan roams the earth looking for those who travel down his road. Good teachers, I am not going to say perfect but those who stay within the Truth of the Word, , but good enough. Check out Chuck Missler, John Macarthur, and there are some good other teachers to seek, before you jump into the fire of ignorance as your declaration puts you. Through the Bible with Les Feldick is a basic start. So much to know, but know this, that Christ Lord did come down from Heaven to ransom you, purchased you with a price by His suffering and atonement for your sins, and He gives you His Cloak of Righteousness and sets you free from the two curses that entered into the world Sin and Death,. He nailed your sin to the Cross, put His blood on it, washed it away. He rose over the grave so that you can also, through His Victory over Death. Do not fear He said the First Death, it is the Second Death, which is Spiritual Death. All that is required of you is your Faith that He did it, and say Christ Lord Come into my Heart, reveal your Truth, and set me free, I am a sinner in need of a Savior. That is all that is required from you. But how many proud people do not make even a small step towards that Faith.

You sound like an idiot if you really believe that...

How do you know? What evidence do you have? You are just making things up out of your head.

fred321cba im making things up in my head ? lol kettle calling pot black

IAN STRANGE im sure you were talking to somebody else ,cause i have no clue wtf you are talkin about

holdem5180 Sorry. Wrong person. A mistake easily made.

I appreciate all of you standing up for the right thing and speaking truth!

He displays real Christ-like attitude. He is not pro-SIN but loves the sinners. That's just what's obvious here. I don't get why people need to throw stones against him just because he doesn't wanna condemn.

The fact that a homosexual couple is trying to get married means they're not "struggling" with their sin, they're actually living by it, and Joel, by attending, is not building a bridge to make them come to Christ, but rather for him to move away from Christ along with them. A marriage is a celebration, if you attend a celebration is to CELEBRATE with everyone else, and if he's against same-sex marriage then he should not celebrate it. I respect the fact that he's not afraid to say that homosexuality is a sin, because you can see and hear that he truly believes it, yet he's not being consistent with Scripture, and indeed contradicts them, by saying he'd go to show respect to a person he appreciates. If you love or respect anyone more than you respect Christ, you're not worthy of being a disciple of Jesus.

Enchong Chua Good point. And I think the reasons he remains friends with those people is because he still believes that somewhere down the road God will work on those people's lives and change their behavior. Another thing is that when a member of our family is leading to a different path doesn't necessarily mean we despise or abandon them. Wouldn't it be great instead that we let God do his thing on that person?

amen!!

amen!!

+Melissa Torres Money the root of ALL evil. The Venus Project for the youth, free the old. United World Youth Org, silence their world. 1989 united. We now have the tools, feasible, moderation. Trade old broke infrastructure for new in a few years. Education, health, Earth, Universe. The first scratch in extreme human advancement. All else is painting over evil.

JESUS ate with the worldly sinners on HIS terms, not theirs. Scripture makes that clear. It's only the watered-down seeker-sensitive types that think otherwise. Why is that? Because lots of dollars are at stake.

I think the main problem here is that Joel Olsteen is very busy always trying not to offend anyone, what he does is spend way too much time trying to be positive saying only positive words and never anything that he thinks is negative. If he spent more time in the WORDS OF GOD, he'd know that in going to a gay wedding, also clearly goes against scripture.. u don't use your "feel- good-index" to make life choices. Its called Fellowship with darkness, or FRIENDSHIP WITH THE WORLD.

Bill 777 The point of being Christian is to be like Jesus. I'm sorry that you as a Christian have forgotten what you are meant to do.

Gavrila Polovinkin Complete this sentence: I am going to heaven based upon__________.

scottty500 based upon God as my judge. So let us all stop disrespecting each other and stop committing the sin of playing God and let God be our judge. When Jesus ate with the 'sinners' (they were outcasts not sinners), he showed them respect and love and told them that change may better suit them, but in a world of hate they still had the love and hospitality of Christ. Christ has unconditional love and he will save you of your sins if you be like him and love thy neighbour. There are so many religions formed from the Bible with so many interpretations we can't judge others on their 'sin'. We will only know when we meet God after we die.

I had to laugh at your comment. That’s what my friend and I call him. Blinky! His wife is crazy eyes.