Tik tok?I used tik tok only one time and I can say that there everyone underestimates

oh yes go on my johan vs koji video on tiktok and look at the comments @@Namelessman.guy2 😂

Please say one vsi feat for Johan which is better than koji.

@@user-fi5fz4hl4l Able to visualize an entire forest from his mind, able to recreate anna past, able to recreate the moment of him being shooted(I have koji taking vsi)

ok here we go Johan has the ability to visualise things to pin-point perfection, whilst keeping it in his head through, revealing insane LT-Memory too. Johan has shown the skills to be able to visualise things he's had limited time to see before, without being at the place itself, and having visualised it with consummate accuracy. Such as, when he had visualised the security systems and locks of the three couples, in order to instruct his pawns on how to perfectly slip past them. Plus the forest feat that someone under me commented. @@user-fi5fz4hl4l

Johan

Johan can probably see through Ayano, and can tell that he is beyond level genius and not like the others. Ayano could also see through Johan but not entirely who he is, he can tell that Johan has different intentions but can't really tell what they are. The thing is that it is not who acts first, but who waits for the other to act first.

​@@Incepter. I can't see Ayanokoji losing, but I doubt Johan would survive there. He has many tools at his possession right now. Many came and were defeated, Johan is just another candidate only excelling in manipulation and social skills.Ayanokoji > Johan mid - high diff.

@@Blaze-qr6gy What would Ayanokoji do to Johan though he is just a sociopathic teacher

@@Incepter. Now that you say it, there is no special exams related to teachers. I can't see a way for him to expel Johan either. He can just wait and defend like he did with tsukishiro and undermine is influence. One thing I don't like about cote is that I can anticipate most of the events because of the restrictions on exams. Tomodachi, Usogui and even LG better than cote in terms of enjoyability.

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haha it seems like we share the same brain. Thx for your words appreciate the support ❤

I believe my man have unlisted the video, but yes, I do remember that! Wasn’t it also with Johan (no influence), and Ayanokoji winning in the end?

.....W-what for? Johan isn't gay..... Is he?

​@@kamijounotouma5596Johan is gay that's why he said that while ayanokoji kick his a** and walk away like a man 🗿

an intelligent person cant be manipulated especially ayanokoji Ayanokoji is a manipulator himself so he will deduce johan trying to manipulate him before johan gets a chance to complete his job For manipulation, you need intelligence Ive watched monster, I couldn't find a single SMART person johan manipulated, all of them were average locals

You can never know that, koenji may have a deep insecurity hidden inside him, you know that johan literally can get any info about any person he wants.

⁠@@bestmate24sorry but koenji has nothing he’s insecure about that’s clear enough, and koenji is also a highly unpredictable person even ayanokoji who can see through anybody can’t really calculate his next moves

@@Failre69420 By negs I mean that low diff(I dont think he wins with low diff versus koji 😅😅)

Johan > koji High diff

​@@rahulkanodia2576koji prime>johan an intelligent person cant be manipulated especially ayanokoji Ayanokoji is a manipulator himself so he will deduce johan trying to manipulate him before johan gets a chance to complete his job For manipulation, you need intelligence Ive watched monster, I couldn't find a single SMART person johan manipulated, all of them were average locals

@@irtiza4262 tf? Current koji > prime koji in outsmarting Prime koji only wins in a fight So by your logic light did not fool L and the fbi , aizen did not manipulate the soul society,joker did not trick batman because in both these scenarios a manipulater manipulated a genius Having a high iq does not mean you can stop yourself from bieng manipulated Johan has a high iq which you would know if you watched or read monster and most of the people johan manipulated were above average intelligence

@@irtiza4262 ayano literally got food trapped and 💀 Ayanokoji is more intellectual yes but categories which matter most in outsmarting go to johan

@@rahulkanodia2576 johan is smart but ayanokoji is smarter, just because johan is manipulative doesnt mean he has better iq Ayanokoji is very observant and can notice even the tiniest bit of signs that he is getting manipulated And while L was not a manipulator, ayanokoji is so realistically he would know better if he's being manipulated Johan did manipulate on a large scale, but I still cant remember anyone being smart, they were all average locals Ayanokoji, while he manipulates on a smaller scale, does manipulate smarter people (as the school itself only admits the smartest students)

Monster is GOAT

here are almost all of the manga clips i used kzfaq.infoicEHknQJkAc

@@bestmate24 Thank you!!!

W opinion maybe i underestimated them but thx for appreciating the edit 👍

Nah tsukishiro lose low mid at best and the diff with charach like ryuen arisu ecc cant be higher than low diff but I agree that it should be like very low

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@@Namelessman.guy2 👍🏻

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W take and understandable

Valid opinion

@@Failre69420 wdym?

@@Failre69420 penaldo fans r goin crazy nowadays

​@@Just_a_simple_guy01johan extreme diff

@@noahzacharias care to explain how?

@@Failre69420 Are you reta*ded

Intelligence ayanokoji easily, he's similar to AI

it’s also interesting how you held Ayanokoji in such a high regard, Johan beating Light mid-high while Ayanokoji is extreme is a very interesting take

@@0001Mxrcel The fact is Ayano is simply too damn overhated and subsequently underrated af and now few scalers are trying to give him justice. Fact is current ayano high-Extreme diffs canon L himself and mid-high diffs johan. Light is... well light work for ayano

cote needs competent scalers who can rate him fairly, koji is bcoming a near victim nowadays which is nuts when he mid - high diffs light

in your dream

Outsmarting and manipulation? I don't think so. Koji takes intelligence, knowledge and Full Scale-IQ no doubt

@@Failre69420 i already read monster 5 times i don't think there is anymore left to analyse him

Wasnt the johan vs koji debate about exactly strategy? And didn't survovyed win against 3 people while being alone?

@@Failre69420That’s what they all do lol.

@@POKERFACESOCIOPATHReading a piece of media 5 times doesn’t mean you understood everything lol.

@@bestmate24 i don't need to debate since I asked survovyed himself saying to give me atleast one single strategy of Johan comparable to Kouji strategies he never replied to me And do you honestly know what even happened in that debate survovyed presented Johan city manipulation feat as strategy and the judge wasn't able to distinguish the difference between them and he thought that the city feat as strategy even though it was straight manipulation that is the only reason why he won the debate Vinta, N-Ice and cento explained it and when we asked survovyed he never did any counter arguments Do you even know that Ayanokouji strategies are comparable to light strategies Have you ever heard of a strategy named CTS which is performed by Kouji and this one according to Dax is comparable to memory loss or maybe even greater Johan doesn't even have any indirect statements regarding his main strategies almost all of his main strategies are offscreen and the onscreen ones aren't even close to being impressive Love letter strategy>>>All of Johan offscreen strategies CTS is damn overkill Survoyed only proved that Johan takes planing against Kouji but that is also barely thanks to statements and narrative otherwise Kouji takes it brutally by feats and statements

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Ayanokoji claps

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Midhan is not that good

@@batmann348 Lunge? You mean the Ryuen victim?

im glad you agree with it 👍

It was based on just strategy and nothing more although different sides have different conclusions from the debate. Also we don't know much about what happened and even if Johan > Koji in strategy. Koji still wins overall. Johan takes EQ,SQ,Strategy,Manipulation and Deception. Koji takes FSIQ,Intelligence, Knowledge, Intel,Deduction, Reasoning, Observation, Thinking,Planning,Strategic-Manipulation and mischallenous. One can argue about strategy or planning but I am nearly certain Koji destroys in both of these and I am not hesitant to discuss, I am talking about Manga Johan;Novel one might take these. EQ and deception are close.

@@randomness480 Ik he wins overall??? Planning + strategy. Johan stomps in maniplation

@@randomness480 did this guy just say manipulation eq and deception are close? As of rn it's not really close no, let's see when the new koji doc comes out

​​​@@randomness480Johan slams in planning. Manga Johan. We can discuss. He also slams in Eq,manip,Deception,sq.

thank you glad you liked it!

Johan would definitely manipulate other people to kill koji, and Johan can definitely hold back koji for 5-6 minutes so Koji Low-mid diffs in combat but other categories like nfs, irls, manipulation goes to Johan. Koji only gets combat and FS

@@snitcheditz koji no-low diffs in combat and high diffs in general outsmarting. The only outsmarting category where it's debatable is cat and mouse situation

@@A_087_ pretty sure Johan beats ayanokoji but I don't wanna argue

@@snitcheditz The fact is you have a johan pfp so I won't expect much from you. Also there is nothing to debate, Johan is prolly the most overrated fodder out there. His character wasn't designed to be a material for outsmarting n shit, it was to simply portray the concept of nihilism and he does a great job at it.

@@A_087_ the funny thing is Johan has made a come back that even koji fanboys like you won't be able to make it stop. So if you wanna debate then talk to survoyd. Also nice go/Jo pfp

Massive cap, ayanokoji high difficulty in his about-to-be prime

Nope johan >> koij extreme diff

@@noahzacharias nah

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@@Terakomari_7 cry

​@@ekmeklipogaca1764oh look little koji junior, gonna cry?😏🥺

Johan high diff

Johan>this kid Low diff

@@oswaldomoreno1235 cope

im sorry you found it cringe, since it was a sub special i tried something different.

Nah its good

Nah it’s not cringe imo, it’s not too much different from other sub storylines in these type of vids

yes i agree its "extremy cringue" appreciate the comment 👍

Johan negs

Ayanokoji negs

​@@bestmate24you are kind person😊

Johan low diff yuiichi

@@TheRiddler3 W bro(yuuichi wins high extreme or very high in my opinion vs afton novel)

@@TheRiddler3 Yeah its debatable but I still think that yuuichi wins with very high or maybe extreme(games afton by feats is around horikita Lvl in outsmarting)

I'd say ayanokoji high diffs johan an intelligent person cant be manipulated especially ayanokoji Ayanokoji is a manipulator himself so he will deduce johan trying to manipulate him before johan gets a chance to complete his job For manipulation, you need intelligence Ive watched monster, I couldn't find a single SMART person johan manipulated, all of them were average locals

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