Yeah, I changed my Opinion on this matchup. Koji Extreme diffs in Overall Outsmarting (taking into account fixed and nonfixed only). Johan Still wins overall High diff (+). Also i just noticed that the 4th johan clips isn't even visible on phone 😭

I agree with almost all points but i still think koji has a major advantage in this matchup because koji is just very difficult to manipulate. He doesn't really a give a shit abt much so it's pretty hard. So even though johan is a better manipulator than koji it doesn't necessarily mean he will be able to manipulate him

Finally someone properly scaling Johan 😭

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FSIQ ayanokoji FSEQ johan FSSQ johan Pure manipulation johan Psycological manipulation johan Emotional manipulation johan Logical manipulation johan Mass manipulation johan indirect manipulation. Johan Direct manipulation johan Individual manipulation johan Misdirection johan Deception johan Critcal thinkig johan visual spatial intelligence johan verbal comprehension intelligence ayanokoji Working memory Intelligence ayanokoji Audit working memory ayanokij Proocessing speed Intelligence johan General Skill Intelligence ayanokoji Cognitive Proficiency Intelligence ayanokoji Congestive proficiency Intelligence johan Quantitative proficiency Intelligence johan Congestive reasoning index ayanokoji Non verbal Intelligence ayanokoji Concrete thinking ayanokoij Horizontal thinking ayanokij Linear thinking ayanokij Non linear thinking johan Faster thinking ayanokoji Fluid reasoning ayanokoji Seeing trough poeple johan Abductive reasoning ayanokoij Inductive reasoning johan Deductive reasoning ayanokoji Deduction ayanokoji Induction johan Abduction ayanokoji Analyical thinking ayanokoij Bodily kinesthetic intelligenc ayanokoij Linguistic intelligenc johan Emotional perception johan Emotional understanding johan Emotional management johan Emotional engagement johan Existential Intelligence johan Crystallized Intelligence ayanokoij Naturallistic Intelligence johan Abstract thinking ayanokoij Intuition johan Cunning johan Logical reasoning ayanokoij Mathematical Intelligence ayanokoij puzzle solving ayanokoij Connecting the dots johan Musical Intelligence ayanokoij Intrapersonal Intelligence johan Interpersonal Intelligence johan Knowledge ayanokij Short time planning ayanokij Long term planning johan Anticipation johan Prediction johan Strategy johan Strategy depth johan Strategy complexity johan Strategy effciency johan Strategy formulation speed johan Decision making johan Cold reading ayanokij hot reading johan Leadership johan more influence johan Johan wins very high diff​ imo pin this pls

There are actually many points go to koji NGL and I have koji wins mid-diff at best.However,You are one of the best editors out there🎉

DAMN huge W my man

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Pretty good and fair. There are points in the score distribution that I disagree with. VCI, VSI=, NVI, Self-Awaraness, Self-Regulation, Intrapersonal Intelligence, Crystallized intelligence, Predictions, Perception, Intuition, Observation goes to Johan Liebert, also Mind Games should go to Johan imo. I think Johan takes Outsmarting (More calculating, better at organizing and executing things, better controlling the situation) W Comparison, W edit

W video goat🐧

There's no meaning comparing johan with ayanokoji....Johan is too much impressive and his cunningness and his manipualtion will be enough to remove ayanokoji from this world..

Bro what app or software do you use for this effects and edits?Plz answer me

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W although I have Johan taking VCI>=, prediction>=, perception, intuition and maybe VSI>=

W edit + take🔥🔥🔥. In my opinion Johan takes VCI, VSI, Crystallized intellegence, observation (=), perception, intuition, logical manipulation, prediction, and Visual spatial intellegence and also Johan wins in Mind games Mid-High diff due his Advantage towards manipulation and deception plus in general outsmarting Johan taked High diff or very high diff and the nfs is low-mid diff, C&M is no diff, and RLS is also no diff and lastly the overall is mid-high diff but I can't complain this because its your opinion and the rest are fax.

Very good edit , btw i have Johan takes overall Outsmart high diff ( + ) but also W , at least you don't underestimate Johan like some others .

perfect human vs perfect monster 🎉🎉🎉

I predict the outcome is either way. This is 5 mins before the live.

W edit buddy 🔥🔥☝️ Johan very high diff

If it's outsmarting in 1v1 then koji kindly negs johan, If you mean overall by combining all the categories then koji again takes this high diff, If you mean overall according to situations then in stop scaling- Nfs-Koji Fs-Koji Real life-Johan Real life without influence-Koji Intelligence-Koji Manipulation (Overall)-Johan by Insane diff If it's in normal scaling then First i would like to add some categories which suits in situations and come in very handy and we will judge according to them(They're starting from scratch, Johan couldn't have used peoples like Roberto if he wasn't from kinderhiem and proved his abilities there, So we're completely restarting from the scratch, it's not fair to not give them equal advantages)- Trap setting- Koji low diff Observation (Overall)- Koji Very high diff Knowledge- Koji Very High diff Direct manipulation- Johan High diff Indirect manipulation- Koji High diff Emotional manipulation- Johan low diff Logical manipulation- Koji low diff Persuasion- Johan mid diff Success rate- Koji low diff Multiple layered traps- Koji no diff Critical thinking- Koji extreme diff Prediction-Johan insane diff Anticipation- Koji very high diff Analytical-Koji Low diff Logical reasoning- Koji No diff Illogical reasoning- Johan mid diff Adaptability- Koji mid diff There's all to it, But johan might be slammed if it's a situation if there's multiple above average or superior peoples then johan will be sitting duck there(Keeping his feats in mind). If it's like Liar game or whatever where there is only one genius whereas all are sh** then johan will gain massive advantage but in liar game and tomodachi game where people are superior than others as the level increases then johan might win first few rounds cuz there are headless chickens participating in it but as the level increases, Koji slams johan. Keeping all in mind now in situations- Non-fixed situations(first read the definition of nfs in term of games in chat-gpt) - Koji Very high-extreme diff (I'm not talking about only one game, they will play multiple). Fixed situations(Again)- Koji low diff (Again, headless chickens are excluded, even if they're included then koji mid diff) Real life situation- Johan low diff Real life situation(Without influence)- Koji extreme diff Cat mouse chase- Koji as both sides Low diff Liar game- Koji Mid diff Tomodachi game- Johan extreme diff but is useless if the game advance further then💀💀Koji low diff Alice on borderland- Haven't read it lol Usogui- Koji mid diff through his observation, logical and analytical reasoning, Even though those game falls under nfs and fs, I have to include it to make it clear.

W take🥂

W + Fax

Simple but W edit, somehow i disagree with overall eq (some categories too) first of all i don't read monster manga / etc that might relate to johan, but i did watch anime (so if you have any information that not revealed in the anime, but it does revealed in manga/something canon, you can tell me), and i compare Kiyotaka (LN) to Johan (Anime) i know it's unfair if think logically, but Monster Anime already ended, while Cote anime or even the LN wasn't even end yet, so it's better to use Kiyotaka from LN and then i want to scale them by normal scaling for scaling intelligence, yes, don't use stop scaling to scale their intelligence, stop scaling is supposed to comparing between better character, not smarter character. so.... imo Overall EQ still debateable for both side. EM, Kiyotaka takes this, not only he's be able manage/control his emotion, but also be able manage his friends, such Suzune, Kei, Honami, and other that might i don't know yes Johan is insanely good manage other emotions, but he's only good at it, but not to himself, if his Emotional Management is good, he won't do anything that mislead his own plan at the beginning, i forgot what his plan, but if i remember correctly, he's almost take over half of germany, but he decide to seek a revenge first, it was terrible idea afterall his first plan already good and work smoothly, okay but that's might false information since i didn't rewatch monster yet, but i have also other proof that Johan bad at his emotional management, it was when he was reading a book, fairy tale book? i have no idea, but if i'm not mistaken, the story was about nameless monster, after he read it, he just scream out of nowhere and then passed out front of the person, yes might for you guys it's just small thing / better writing, but i'm talking about emotional management, not writing, so keep in mind i'm scaling here with normally and pure to scale their actual intelligence, it might just small thing but if you backward the story, all of the time, Johan is just calm and calm, calm outside, cold inside, but here we are, we found johan just passed out just because reading a book, the book that was completely change johan personality into a monster (ikr it's not only because a book, but also other influences), which is, what Johan did, it was 'Acting' or 'Self Management' and not 'Emotional Management'. (+Johan can be categorized as Depressed Person, and If you learn psychology that Depressed person not always to cry, they are just feeling hurt deep inside their heart, it's seems fit on Johan characteristic, isn't it?) (about the plan that i was talking about was Schuwald plan, that plan changed after he read the nameless monster, his intention changed to decide find Franz Bonaparta instead, anw correct me if i'm wrong.) EU, Actually Both take it, not only Johan, but also Kiyotaka, idk why you guys only give it to Johan, not only johan who learn psychology, but Kiyotaka did learn psychology too, even earlier than Johan, Johan was trained to be a Soldier who will never feel fear or scared of death, while Kiyotaka was trained to be a 'Perfect' Leader. Both likely have same, but Kinderheim 511 is more way dangerous, there's even victim/casualities there, while White Room hasn't confirmed yet if there's someone that actually death because they failed, it's only said 'failure' not death. Oh Yeah, for those who doesn't know about Kiyotaka is really learn psychology? well it's Yes, in White Room, everyone studied and learning about Many type of intelligence, the intelligence to be leader, which mean including advanced sciences, meaning that he did learn psychology, so both take it. EP, if i remember correctly that Johan has no feats at this, what he did was only learning deeper instead taking conclusion earlier, which mean EU not EP, while Kiyotaka shown that many times he's be able to notice someone emotion earlier, but sadly i forgot which one, but he did it but not explained very well (it's not even explained what was he's thinking about the person he just observe, unlike PJ who can easily tell Person emotion), so both didn't take this, kiyotaka would likely takes it but i'm not really sure though. EE, Johan takes it, He Engage someone emotion more way complex and deeper than Kiyotaka does, and we knew that Johan is clearly doing Insanity inducement, and his Insanity inducement skill was incredible and it's already enough to make this point goes to Johan 2-2, no winner no loser. it's just overall EQ, i don't want to talk about all the things since it will likely long conversation if someone disagree with this, but anyway i don't wanna do debate, just sharing some opinion and assumption. and as you can see, i scaled them fairly, both my fav characters tho. (not main fav, but most scd are likely to be my favorite, including Johan and Kiyotaka, but they all can't replace PJ and Dazai as my main fav char lol😊💀) sorry for bad grammar, might there will be misunderstood here, and take my words as a grain of salt too.

w edit for me if the battle last long enough koji's adaptability will make him over johan

W edit with valid opinions fr Johan does win extreme diff tho

I think that vci, vsi should go to Johan but mainly W overall, I disagree with very few of the distributions but for me Johan>around mid diff overall W edit did not disappoint 🐐

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Johan about to humble the Perfect Human

Intuition to johan

Evergreen debate ❤

2 absolutely beasts, if I had to make a prediction I think EOS Koji will scale above Johan (not by far) but regardless great take.

Direct and indirect manipulation both to Johan...

well it could go either way. IMO- Irl- Johan ext diff Fixed- Koji Mid diff Non fixed - Koji ext diff Death note- Johan- High diff Monster- Koji Ext diff Tomodachi Game- Koji High diff Code Geass- Koji High diff COTE exams- Koji Mid-High diff Liar game-Johan High diff Cat mouse- Johan High diff Team Situation- Koji High diff Influence building- Johan mid diff. Overall outsmarting-Koji mid-high diff Manip-Johan low-mid diff Overall- Johan

Who are you giving VCI?! Johan debatably takes it. And also takes logical manipulation, some more strategy categories and maybe even thinking categories. Knowledge and academics also go to Johan due to studying Latin, economics etc. manipluation battle is no diff (-), cat and mouse could be low diff, NFS is mid diff, FS is very high diff, mind games are possible equal, if not then Johan takes it insane diff. General outsmarting goes to Johan very high diff. Possibly even lower... Edit: Nvm... I think general outsmarting is ok. Mind games to Koji extreme diff. Still w opinion.

Holy W edit+Wtake 🗣️🔥‼️ But imo some points goes Johan and he takes general outsmarting.I agree with diff,Johan High Diffs.Also Johan is criminally underrated 🥂🥂🥂

Finna scale Johan to Baku level with this🗣️

If Johan ( the namless monster) was in the white room He made them kill each other.🥶

All points go to johan Johan win No diff Yes, I still stand by my opinion

It seems you've wasted all your braincells for editing skills, instead of using them for intelligence scaling.

Kouji still high diffs imo I don't seem the re-evaluation to be that impressive Overall Intelligence- kouji low diffs Reasoning- Kouji mid-high diff Thinking- Kouji mid diff FSIQ- Kouji low diffs FSEQ- Johan low diffs FSSQ- Johan mid diff Planing- Johan extreme diff (his are mostly statements so yeah) Strategy- Kouji mid diffs (the docs doesn't buff it that much majorly) Manipulation- Johan low diffs Rls- Johan mid diff Physical fight- Kouji no diffs Overall Kouji : Kouji wins high diffs

ayanokoji vs micheal scofield pleaseeee

Predicting koji v.high diffing

Isn't Johan hard carried by his influence and statements such as "leaving no evidence"? He was never against anyone competent in NFS outsmarting infact, and his manipulation feats are illogical, Lunge was the only one with a brain and he didn't have much influene, he was working alone

Johan high-very high diff But ayanokoji potential>>>>

w opinion fast thinking is true for light novel ayanokoji not anime cause in light novel he defeated a chess bot with 20m possibilties one sec by thinking of more possibilites

Johan very high doff imo

Ayanokoji is trained so hard that adds the ability to withstand harsh conditions

JOHAN LIEBERT : MANIPULATION BATTLE : LOW MID DIFF IN REAL LIFE SITUATION : MID DIFF NON FIXED OUTSMARTING : VERY HIGH DIFF WRITING : LOW DIFF AYANOKOJI KIYOTAKA : FIXED OUTSMARTING : HIGH TO MID DIFF GENERAL OUTSMARTING : EXTREME DIFF INTELLECT : VERY HIGH DIFF IN A FIGHT : NO DIFF OVERALL WINNER : VERY HIGH DIFF😊

Koji>>>mid diff Light>>>very high dif CTW L>>>no low dif But w opinion🥂

Koji very high-extreme diffs imo

we stiII got year 3 to go through i say koji wins eventuaIIy if not aIready

Koji bullies.

VCI,FVCI,NVI,FRI to johan

VCI,VSI to Johan Johan win ext diff

W edit but L opinion koji slams low_mid diff he takes much more points

Johan extreme diffs

I mean it is clear as crystal who would win in a fight. Just think about it from a logical perspective. Its safe to assume none of those could manipulate each other. And if you are thinking,Johan could manipulate others to beat Ayanokoji then he could do the same in fact Ayanokoji has more charisma than Johan. And Johan could never ever try to win against him in a one on one fight. So as long as it is about who would win? There is no doubt. Just stated the facts. Change my mind if you can 😂

overall johan>=ayanokouji extremely-insane diff

Ayanokoji> my opinion

Koji will always johan victim

Johan is true monster😎 Because he can beat William Afton 🥶🥶🥶

Johan takes everything and negative diffs W edit fr

After reading Johan's doc Johan low-mid diff

bruh why comparing johan sht to ayanokoji..is this a joke..ayanokoji takes everything ...johan would not even have a single chance..everything that happens ayanokoji can predict perfectly who did it ..even if he doesnt exist he will find him easily through his works

Johan takes all and no diffs

Overall Johan mid diff

Cap🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢 but nice video bruhh

Johan high diff

Koji high diff

Johan mis diff

Koji high diffs imo

No

Johan no diff in manipulation...

koji no diffs

Ayanokoji mid diffs

W Edit ,i want add my fight Monster Johan vs Devil Junko VCI,PSI,NVI,FRI,WMI,VSI,QRI,CPI,GAI, AWMI,VECI,FSIQ,FLUID VCI, BODILY KIESTHETIC,MUSICAL,FLUID,LM,NATURALIST:Junko ----------------------------------------------------------- INFLUENCE, ANALYSIS, DATA EVALUATION, DATA PROCESSING, DIGITAL HACKING:Junko --------------------------------------------------------------- LEADERSHIP,AURA,CHARM,DECEPTION,CHARISMA, EXISTENTIAL:Johan -------------------------------------------------------------- COLD READING,HOTREADING,ANTICIPATION ,BLACKMAIL,THREAT,COMPOSURE:Johan ---------------------------------------------------------------- L.S TERM STRATEGY, STRATEGY LENGTH,STRATEGY DECEPTION, STRATEGY COTROL,OVERALL STRATEGY:Junko -------------------------------------------------------------- MASS MANIPULATION, WORLD MANIPULATION, WORD DOMINATION, WORLD DESPAIR, SESUCTION,MIND CONTROL,CREATIVITY,PROBLEM ANALYSIS,OVERALL ANALYSIS AND MANIPULATION:Junko ----------------------------------------------------------------- SOCIAL SKILLS,SOCIAL AWARENESS.BOTH,SELF MANAGEMENT,SELF AWARENESS,EMOTHION PERCEPTION,EMONATHIONAL UNDERSTANDING,OVERALL EQ:Johan ---------------------------------------------------------- LOGICAL THINKING ,RATIONAL THINKING, VERBAL THINKING , SING REASONING,LINEAR THINKING, LONG TERM PLANNING ,PLANNING EFFICIENCY,SET TRAP,PLANNING DECEPTION ,OVERALL PLANNING:Johan --------------------------------------------------------------- TIME DIE BOY LONG TERM MEMORY ,SHORT TERM MEMORY ,MEMORIZATION, OVERALL MEMORY ,KNOWLEDGE ,KNOWLEDGE IQ,TACTIC ,METODS, SKILLS ,PHYSICAL ABILITIES, WORLD INFLUENCE ,OVERALL INTUITION,CRT,ILLT,NONVT,IRRAT,FT,OVERALL THINKING:Junko JUNKO SOLO ( MID-LOW DIFF)

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