John Corvino - What's Morally Wrong with Homosexuality? (Full DVD Video)

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John Corvino

John Corvino

11 жыл бұрын

In this widely presented lecture (recorded here in 2007), John Corvino dismantles common arguments against same-sex relationships, including those based on nature, harm, and religion.
And if you like the lecture, you'll love the book!: johncorvino.com/whats-wrong-wi...
Special thanks for subtitle translations:
Czech by David Koranda.
Polish by Stanley Bulski.
Portuguese (Brazilian) by Luiz Henrique Soares Silva.
Spanish by Pedro Michel, Dr. Paula Oliva-Fiori, and Dr. Roxana Zuniga.
Chinese (Traditional and Simplified) by Chen.
Dr. John Corvino is a writer, speaker, and philosophy professor at Wayne State University in Detroit. He is the author of What's Wrong with Homosexuality? and the co-author (with Maggie Gallagher) of Debating Same-Sex Marriage and (with Ryan T. Anderson and Sherif Girgis) of Debating Religious Liberty and Discrimination, all from Oxford University Press.
Find the book version here: amzn.to/ZuIF2A.
Read more at JohnCorvino.com.

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@nicklarsen3113
@nicklarsen3113 3 жыл бұрын
Q: “what’s morally wrong with homosexuality?” A: “nothing” I just saved an hour of your time. You’re welcome.
@maxlang1967
@maxlang1967 3 жыл бұрын
No the straights need to hear this, all of it!.
@jeromeafaten2286
@jeromeafaten2286 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! But This is worth every second 💖
@constapatedbannana4164
@constapatedbannana4164 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxlang1967 i think by straights you mean homophobes not straight ppl
@scraplord6390
@scraplord6390 3 жыл бұрын
@Nick Yeah was about to say the same things
@miya6008
@miya6008 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks lol
@isaac.2031
@isaac.2031 4 жыл бұрын
It's fine saying I can't do that because of my religion. It's not okay to say you can't do this because of my religion.
@annemac8175
@annemac8175 4 жыл бұрын
Isa you can do what you like, but just don't think it's Ok with God, the two cannot be mixed, live your way of life if you have to, no one is forcing God on you, you have a choice.
@aidennguyen504
@aidennguyen504 4 жыл бұрын
@@annemac8175 Some people don't believe in a higher being, so your argument is still invalid against them.
@aidennguyen504
@aidennguyen504 4 жыл бұрын
@@annemac8175 What you just said was an indirect example of what isa just said. Read your words again. Your message was basically saying "you shouldn't do this because my god said so". that's no different than "you can't do this because of my religion"
@danial804
@danial804 4 жыл бұрын
Anne the scriptures have been interpreted differently as they went through languages over years. The original text was different. The English language has changed over time. Also, I think you should pay attention to one of the things that John said. Whenever a heterosexual person does something horrible, we don’t think of it as reflecting on all heterosexual people, and it’s not fair to say your bad experiences with one gay person reflects on all of them. If someone’s a pervert, they’re going to be a pervert regardless of their sexual orientation. I don’t agree with straight people trying to make gay people straight just as I don’t approve of gay people trying to make straight people gay. And honestly this just drives home the point that we don’t chose our sexual orientation. If I can’t make you gay, then why is it fair to say you can make me straight? And just note that gay people aren’t attracted to everyone of the same gender. And if anything if they’re flirting with you you should be flattered that you’re attractive. The scriptures tell you to be kind to people, and that’s what’s important to me. I am not trying to be rude to you here either. If you’re offended by what I’m saying, then I apologize for that.
@annemac8175
@annemac8175 4 жыл бұрын
@@danial804 \You need to go to the experts who teach the *grammer* of ancient languages and this is what I have done...you are twisting words in the scripture to suit your *sort of desires and ways* straight people also have the dilema of choosing whether or not to commit adultery or not and that sin is alongside the sodomy sin too, so it's not just your lot it's us too. Now regarding your interpretation of man and boy you need to provide us with the wording which states this , I will be waiting... Here is another information, why would a God make somebody gay then forbid them doing the pervert actions....NO God did not create Adam and Steve and as I say you can live your life as you please but just stay away from trying to say that God's OK with that, God loves everyone no matter but He hates sin and straight people won't be getting away with their sins either. I would give my blood to a gay to save his life, rescue him from a burning house fire, it's natural for us to help people in distress but ask me to go to a gay wedding...NO, the scripture says I would be as bad as the gay person's sin and appear to be supporting it. (ST Paul)
@chrisengle845
@chrisengle845 7 ай бұрын
dude is logically and articulately reinforcing what everyone has always known. there is only ONE argument against homosexuality: 'thinking about it makes me feel 'icky''. the only logical response is 'i dont care. you are free to not think about it.'
@dawnjohnson3263
@dawnjohnson3263 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure you know what makes people feel sick, but, as I keep pointing out . . Some Hetro men do Exactly the same thing with women
@GMPOFloyd
@GMPOFloyd 6 ай бұрын
@@rolandhawken6628You are part of the problem
@emraldeyz1
@emraldeyz1 6 ай бұрын
​@rolandhawken6628 what are the 'obvious' reasons?
@rolandhawken6628
@rolandhawken6628 6 ай бұрын
@@emraldeyz1 In order to understand the obvious reasons you need to think about how Homosexuals copulate . I can't go into that on here you might be a child .
@emraldeyz1
@emraldeyz1 6 ай бұрын
@rolandhawken6628 Again, that goes to how you feel about that. It has no bearing on it being right or wrong. Furthermore 'homosexuality' is not a word that existed in the Bible until modern translations and is a combination of two terms derived from both Greek and Latin and only came into use in the 1800s.
@mikekent1490
@mikekent1490 7 ай бұрын
Wow. I stumbled across this discourse earlier today. I wish I had seen it 10 years ago. I have lived in fear of judgement all through my life. Excellent speaker. Excellent presentation.
@artemisfowldragon
@artemisfowldragon 4 жыл бұрын
This video is 6years old, how many other people just got it recommended.
@BSON900
@BSON900 4 жыл бұрын
Me:)
@twnb7733
@twnb7733 4 жыл бұрын
alpha reaperion Thé Sodomy is the last sign before the complete destruction of a civilization.
@Plant_Parenthood
@Plant_Parenthood 4 жыл бұрын
@@twnb7733 hahahaha yeah bumsex is the thing that will bring down civilization. Thank you for a good laugh!
@twnb7733
@twnb7733 4 жыл бұрын
The Galvinizer you don’t know that? Why don’t you study some real cases?
@twnb7733
@twnb7733 4 жыл бұрын
The Galvinizer By the way, d9 you have parents, a family when you were young?
@warptens5652
@warptens5652 3 жыл бұрын
Naming your son Larry is bad, because if everybody named their son Larry, we wouldn't know who we're talking about.
@nyx4323
@nyx4323 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@user-lr1rt3sz9u
@user-lr1rt3sz9u 3 жыл бұрын
It's more like "being called Larry" because it's not even a choice.
@marije179
@marije179 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you were talking about the Louis and Harry ship
@SuperShadow
@SuperShadow 3 жыл бұрын
Did I ever tell you that Mrs. McCave Had twenty-three sons and she named them all Dave?
@TheTemantti
@TheTemantti 8 ай бұрын
Oh boy, I just watched this lecture. It is such an important one. The way you tackle all those arguments is just so empowering. It is funny on the other day this sentence popped to my head, and I was thinking to use it on a social media post:" Don´t hate me. Get to know me." I think that fits nicely with your pursue. I went through some of the comments here and noticed the tears in my eyes... Gay community needs to hear this speech! Thank you John and hugs from Finland, Europe!
@jarenaro488
@jarenaro488 6 ай бұрын
I wasnt planning on staying for the whole thing because I'm a busy man, but it was simply fabulous and I had to listen to the whole thing. I'm bi and it was a wonderful dismantling of arguments.
@cliff1745
@cliff1745 6 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing when I saw that the video was an hour long but that one hour passed by just like that.
@Khayyam-vg9fw
@Khayyam-vg9fw 5 ай бұрын
Or a wonderful confirmation of your own prejudices.
@Joshiboiy
@Joshiboiy 4 ай бұрын
I personally do not agree, I have had homosexual thoughts, but I believe in Jesus. He helps me to not seek pleasure but live a life for God's glory. By believing in him I have not only gotten over homosexual thoughts, but heterosexual thoughts that consumed my mind. Also lying, stealing, and hate for others. Coming to Christ, I realized that nobody's perfect but because of that I could not trust myself. I needed to be forgiven of all sins or I was going to hell. But Jesus lived a perfect life in my place and by believing in him I don't go to hell but have eternal life. God Bless you!
@jarenaro488
@jarenaro488 4 ай бұрын
@@Joshiboiy I understand where you're coming from. I am also religious. I suppose we can agree to disagree about the nature of God.
@KobeKore
@KobeKore 3 ай бұрын
@@Khayyam-vg9fwwhat’s your argument bud? Go on.
@LancesArmorStriking
@LancesArmorStriking 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro: *angrily typing*
@emmvids6920
@emmvids6920 4 жыл бұрын
Haha faxxx😂
@st.michaelthearchangel7774
@st.michaelthearchangel7774 3 жыл бұрын
What Ben Shapiro would write would certainly be true, whether it was an angry response or not.
@vilmospalik1480
@vilmospalik1480 3 жыл бұрын
Blessed Mother I cant tell if ur joking or not cuz if u r it’s very funny
@UlexiteTVStoneLexite
@UlexiteTVStoneLexite 3 жыл бұрын
@@st.michaelthearchangel7774 lol no Ben is just an angry little man that is way too into his imaginary friend
@somedrunkbitch4
@somedrunkbitch4 3 жыл бұрын
@@st.michaelthearchangel7774 every time i watch him he usually lies and says things that are scientifically not correct but sure
@yahiakhaled253
@yahiakhaled253 4 жыл бұрын
I was ready to attack, turns out he is in our side.
@RuiyaWan
@RuiyaWan 4 жыл бұрын
Me too😂😂
@hannahkessler9423
@hannahkessler9423 4 жыл бұрын
He's a wonderful guy and an amazing professor! I was lucky enough to have him for one of my courses last year and I'm so happy that I got the chance to learn under him!
@Ibrahim-ej2wz
@Ibrahim-ej2wz 4 жыл бұрын
aren't you muslim ?!?!
@Ahmed-ti8br
@Ahmed-ti8br 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ibrahim-ej2wz so ? i am gay and Muslim as well
@Ibrahim-ej2wz
@Ibrahim-ej2wz 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ahmed-ti8br you shouldn't be telling me that its haram to expose your sins
@JustHowItIs
@JustHowItIs 7 ай бұрын
I am bisexual and I was kicked out of the house for it. The struggle is real against being accepted for being bisexual.
@jerrysimler8110
@jerrysimler8110 6 ай бұрын
I'm gay and my oldest brother is gay. Our dad allowed our mother to browbeat, mock, mistreat, and eventually... throw us both out as soon as possible. About 3 years before he died, my dad told my mother one night that he himself...was bisexual, and he had cheated on her left, right, and sideways for all of those years. It's been 5 years now since his passing, and I am still puzzled...and ANGRY. I'm angry that my dad allowed his gay sons to be so horrifically mistreated by our mother, knowing full good and well that he, too, had same-sex proclivities. He hooked up with many of my mom's friends, as well as some of their husbands, too. He also picked up hitchhikers and had sex with those guys, too. I actually remember one of those times, because after he picked up a hitchhiker one time, he left my brother and I in a cold car in the parking lot of a bar on a rainy, wet October afternoon while he went inside the bar with this guy and had a drink and oral sex in the restroom of that bar. I know this because he specifically mentioned that incident when he told her about his sexuality. So, yeah...I'm still a bit angry at being ostracized by my mother for being queer, and he stood by and allowed it.
@nerdatron817
@nerdatron817 6 ай бұрын
Sorry you had to go through that! I hope you're in a better place.
@jerrysimler8110
@jerrysimler8110 6 ай бұрын
@@nerdatron817 Thank you, and I'm getting there, slowly; it's a process, of course.
@catherinepatton8699
@catherinepatton8699 4 ай бұрын
I am so sorry you had that experience of ignorance blinders on loved ones hurts hurts so much hope you are well and are true to who you are. There is nothing wrong with you our social ills are a killer for so may who live their truth. Stay strong, not bitter at anyone most of all stay the beautiful person you are.
@corneliahanimann2173
@corneliahanimann2173 4 ай бұрын
This is so awful that you were betrayed by your own family like that. They were supposed to love you unconditionally and support you, yet they not just abandoned you but additionally made life difficult for you. I hope for you that you find true love in the world, the unconditional kind, and I applaud you for not abandoning your sense for true and authentic love by not denying your own sexuality.
@tlucke2006
@tlucke2006 7 ай бұрын
I needed to see this! As a gay man who didn't come out till he was 42! I was told and raised to believe it is not normal, sin against God, etc.! So I stayed in the closet, even was married twice to women and then divorced! I tried to be what society expected me to be and it almost cost my life! I wouldn't wish my situation on anyone and I hope to spread this video so that some young woman or man will have the confidence or moral courage to be who they are!!! Thank you, thank you John!
@My_Lacrimosa
@My_Lacrimosa 7 ай бұрын
You're disgusting
@georgegorvaniagerge7077
@georgegorvaniagerge7077 6 ай бұрын
at times like this im glad i realised it too fast i am a guy born in homophobic country i learned too fast my sexuality and i mean really really fast i wasnt even teenager however because of my country i was expected to be with a wife and im really sure i cant make a family if i dont find her attractive sexualy but im happy i learned it fast other wise i would have ended up with multiple women with who i cant really be but for me there is still time ofc
@flordemariash.l2494
@flordemariash.l2494 4 ай бұрын
Slavery in their world wasn’t supposed to be like slavery in the USA; but again it is strange that God for some reason would allow certain people to be born an slave for all their lives ( for gentiles... Jews have to be set free in jubilees).
@zacharyevans8152
@zacharyevans8152 2 ай бұрын
Paul had a thorn in his side that God refused to remove. God said his grace was enough. Christ says to pick up your cross and follow Him. I'm sorry for what you went through but Jeffrey Dahmer was who he was and it turned out to be the wrong thing. I am who I am and it is not good. I'm lustful, short tempered, jealous and covetous. Being proud of anything, especially something as egocentric as "who you are" brings good to no one. Because of homosexuality one may never know the fulfillment promised by God of being in a fruitful heterosexual relationship and bearing your shortcoming the way Christ wants you to whatever that shortcoming is. We all walk rocky paths in bare feet but that is not a reason to forsake why you were made and and who you were made for. Jesus loves you and us all. Being a parent has brought that fact so intimately close to me. I truly wish you the best and hope you find the courage and the heart to walk the righteous path.
@gordoncarscadden7735
@gordoncarscadden7735 4 жыл бұрын
When he said our children aren't born unto us it struck a cord in me because LGBTQ people aren't born into a community, we are born alone sometimes into a community hostile to us, It's a scary lonely feeling. My heart goes out to the younger generations struggling to find themselves in a sometimes hostile world. You are not alone.
@kevindonohue2912
@kevindonohue2912 4 жыл бұрын
On the bright side, things are so much better than they were half a century ago. AIDS is no longer an automatic death sentence, marriage is legal, and the internet and cell phones allow young people to reach out and join on-line communities. We have the Trevor Project, LGBTQ community centers in almost every city, and many programs directed at providing support for LGBTQ youth.
@andion8385
@andion8385 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jondstewart
@jondstewart 4 жыл бұрын
Gordon Carscadden you still have ass-backward people like Franklin Graham and his followers, who are clones of the late Jerry Falwell. But the absolute worst of all of them is Pastor Steven Anderson. He preaches homosexuals are rejected by God and beyond redemption and thinks they don’t even think once about turning to him and are horrible people.
@sheezamann2724
@sheezamann2724 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevindonohue2912 you forgot 2......trump and pence....aren't they wonderful?
@sheezamann2724
@sheezamann2724 4 жыл бұрын
@@jondstewart pastor steven anderson from arizona...needs to come out.....and ...he has been banned from SEVERAL countries for all of his hate speech...just sayin
@ladyjatheist2763
@ladyjatheist2763 4 жыл бұрын
the only thing that is morally wrong about any sex is when it's not consenting. as for a person's sexuality, why does someone else's sexuality matter to anyone not engaged in that sexuality? humans are irritating in extremis.
@thewriter2634
@thewriter2634 3 жыл бұрын
*So as long as there is consent it's perfectly fine? So you believe that incest, adultery, pedophilia and prostitution are perfectly fine. Because all of those can involve consenting parties.*
@Oscze
@Oscze 3 жыл бұрын
@@thewriter2634 in pedophilia the child cant consent :|
@thewriter2634
@thewriter2634 3 жыл бұрын
@@Oscze *I'm aware by law they can't. Technically they can; say you have a 16 year old and a 30 year old who do the nasty, that would be statutory rape which is consensual but it's not recognized by law. There is a difference between the two.*
@morganedelobel7354
@morganedelobel7354 3 жыл бұрын
@@thewriter2634 it's not pedophilia if the person is 16yo
@thewriter2634
@thewriter2634 3 жыл бұрын
@@morganedelobel7354 *In some states it is.*
@markcooke729
@markcooke729 8 ай бұрын
Just incredible! I'm so lucky with my family and friends to be so understanding. Initially, my parents couldn't handle my sexuality. I found myself in an abusive relationship & that coloured their opinions even more. When that relationship finished they were so pleased for my safety Y freedom - then I met someone else and fell in love with him. When they realised how much in love we are their attitudes changed almost over night. My family adore my David. My Brother has another brother, my Mum loves him like another son, & my father loved him like nobody else. When Dad passed away, we took his ashes to scatter where he loved bird watching as a boy. On the way back down to where we were going to have lunch in a pub, Mum bumped into a group of her friends she hadn't seen for a while. They exchanged pleasantries then my Mum introduced us, my brother, then myself & then Dave. "This is Mark's partner, my other son". I will never forget that moment. Dave's family are the same with me. I don't think I could ever imagine how much love we're surrounded by! I just hope that younger people of our LGBTQ family are finding life easier than we did & their families are just as supportive of them as ours is.
@edithbannerman4
@edithbannerman4 4 ай бұрын
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
@Oscar_239
@Oscar_239 2 ай бұрын
You are so lucky... I live in the shadows because my family is not as supportive.. and the crazy thing is I live alone... so I shouldn't care right? But somehow I feel I could never bring a partner to a family get together
@markcooke729
@markcooke729 2 ай бұрын
@@Oscar_239 I feel for you. I know how fortunate I am & I don't take it for granted.
@Apes_are_monkeys
@Apes_are_monkeys 2 ай бұрын
This story made me cry. It makes me hopeful for the future, thank you.
@bobbyfartz5591
@bobbyfartz5591 6 ай бұрын
People say they want to make the world a better place; this man is actually doing it.
@bitch_bowl2624
@bitch_bowl2624 5 ай бұрын
I bet you got poppers for that XXL large dildo of barok obama
@catherinepatton8699
@catherinepatton8699 4 ай бұрын
Often when people who say they want to make the world a better place its by their standards not by world view of love forgiving of limited thought rather do things my way coming from lack. It's difficult for humans to change their minds next impossible when they have been taught a way and that way being truth for them now here comes a different way. Oh my God am l confused troubles them. Forgiveness, patience love to all.
@Joshiboiy
@Joshiboiy 4 ай бұрын
@@catherinepatton8699 I personally do not agree, I have had homosexual thoughts, but I believe in Jesus. He helps me to not seek pleasure but live a life for God's glory. By believing in him I have not only gotten over homosexual thoughts, but heterosexual thoughts that consumed my mind. Also lying, stealing, and hate for others. Coming to Christ, I realized that nobody's perfect but because of that I could not trust myself. I needed to be forgiven of all sins or I was going to hell. But Jesus lived a perfect life in my place and by believing in him I don't go to hell but have eternal life. God Bless you!
@epsteindidntkillhimself69
@epsteindidntkillhimself69 4 ай бұрын
@@Joshiboiy I'm sorry that such an empty concept has so much power over you.
@djsurferdude
@djsurferdude 3 ай бұрын
@@Joshiboiy- you’ve been brainwashed. The Bible is total fiction. You’re letting a made up narrative destroy your life.
@DennisCambly
@DennisCambly 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone watching this video in 2020?
@gretta471907
@gretta471907 4 жыл бұрын
Dennis Cambly Yes, I’m watching February 07, 2020
@theciav
@theciav 4 жыл бұрын
Dennis Cambly ummm yeah lol
@hannah3146
@hannah3146 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@mr.greenjeans8323
@mr.greenjeans8323 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@petrmacek2763
@petrmacek2763 4 жыл бұрын
Me. :-)
@kevincheng1737
@kevincheng1737 3 жыл бұрын
"And I'm asking you to judge people not on whom they love, but on whether they love" golden line right there
@melanietoth1376
@melanietoth1376 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect
@Greendollar640
@Greendollar640 10 ай бұрын
I heard a child molester say that once.
@JamesBrown-ij1px
@JamesBrown-ij1px 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@deus_vult8111
@deus_vult8111 8 ай бұрын
It’s not love, it’s lust, and abominable
@rickyalenart
@rickyalenart 8 ай бұрын
My partner have been together for over 38. How many straight people can say that?
@Seekingtruth4488
@Seekingtruth4488 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely LOVE this talk. I am heterosexual but have never been able to understand why people and religion has an issue with homosexuality. Thank you for the clarity you gave here
@njkip
@njkip 7 ай бұрын
Thankyou, I'm a gay man and all I want to say is it's not a choice it's who we are it's how we are. I never asked to be gay but have lived with the remarks the sneering and bigotry......I don't flout my sexuality I just try live my life the best I can...
@SimonandJojo
@SimonandJojo 6 ай бұрын
Religions have an issue about it because to them the bible says so, if you truly understand the bible it was written long after Jesus was walking the earth, it has been altered by human hand, it has been added to and passages removed, and the word homosexual was added to the bible in the 60's by a religion. Religion is man made, built on putting fear into people that a man in the sky is going to do something awful if you don't tow the line, in fact the truth is God is an energy/force of love which is present in all nature, (wild flowers, streams, rivers, trees, insects etc), the whole world and universe is made up of that force/energy. Religions/churches also make you believe Jesus had white skin with long blond hair, nothing could be further from the truth.
@ryan20652
@ryan20652 6 ай бұрын
As a Catholic, it is because we believe God created man and women to become one flesh in marriage. God gave us our sexuality, God also condemned homosexuality. Since God gave us our sexuality and God condemned homosexuality, we try not to use our sexuality against God’s will. I don’t believe Christians are truly homophobic but simply stand up for Christian morality and family values.
@njkip
@njkip 6 ай бұрын
@@ryan20652 so where does the values at the very core of Catholicism stand with the prevalent proven homosexual child abuse by individuals that should be best placed to instill the the Catholic values. No matter what religion dictates to its followers being gay is NOT A CHOICE! So therefore one must ask is there something wrong with the genetics of the human species as homosexuality has been around forever, to coin a phrase. after all sex in reality is just about survival of the species. So yet again RELIGION, which is responsible for more trouble, deaths and hatred in the world is involved, Perhaps religions should focus on those issues, I mean you only have to look what's going on in the middle east...ALL IN THE NAME OF RELIGION! People are entitled to their beliefs if it provides them with what the need to be a fulfilled human being. I leave you with last thought....as I stated earlier, being gay is NOT A CHOICE, I certainly didn't chooses to be. So as a Catholic with the beliefs you hold and follow....what would you do if you were Gay, hide it and live a lie because youd be afraid to be yourself,denounce your religion, commit suicide, WHAT?
@rubylicious1024
@rubylicious1024 6 ай бұрын
​@@ryan20652​the complete void of moral and values that so many religious people have, makes your argument somewhat ludicrous.. it's like when a religious person do the things they complain, condemn and judge others for, they're even unfit candidates, but they still preach about stuff, and what others should or shouldn't do.. some say that judgement is God's work.. but if that was what they believed, why do they even think that they should (or be worthy to) take that role? the double standard adds even more, when they say you should love everyone and that it's wrong to pass judgement.. (i don't know if they don't realise it, or failing to recognise it, or if it's a brain worm of sort, that causes some "holier than" type of superiority complex.. but I know that I don't understand it..) even if that was your beliefs, what makes that into what's right or wrong? or that that even should be? when there's so much hypocrisy and double standards, that they even can trip themselves by it, it's mindboggling that they even think, that they are the ones that should be talking about moral and values, or what should be considered right and wrong .. and if the case actually was that they followed some godly teachings, they wouldn't pick and choose what that was.. but if you didn't understand what he said or talked about, well, you can always watch it again..
@user-nu4uh9fh1b
@user-nu4uh9fh1b 7 ай бұрын
Wow, as a 72 year old gay man. You actually almost brought me to tears. To hear someone as rational and intelligent as you present the facts with humor and empathy! Every argument is spot on. Everything fits or we make it! Perfect.
@tardytortoise9227
@tardytortoise9227 3 жыл бұрын
Me: Sees the title "I guess I'll hear what he has to say, but there really isn't an argument against homosexuality" John: Starts talking about how homosexuality is not wrong Me: He had us in the first half, not gonna lie
@sleeper6564
@sleeper6564 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same lol
@Emilyp4082
@Emilyp4082 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@yoshlord7272
@yoshlord7272 3 жыл бұрын
I don't even think he was trying to bait like that. He was just asking an honest rhetorical question of his audience. I will admit that I did do the same thing, though.
@johnthorsen5394
@johnthorsen5394 3 жыл бұрын
I clicked on the video fearing the worst, ready to block the channel and ask youtube to NEVER reccomend it again. Thank fucking Dog it wasnt at all what i feared
@alegria1813
@alegria1813 3 жыл бұрын
Same, I'm like "omg I love this man" lol
@philiphoel4290
@philiphoel4290 9 ай бұрын
"If everyone was a Roman Catholic Priest, there would be no society either." That is one of the best comeback lines ever.
@stephenweicken5838
@stephenweicken5838 8 ай бұрын
I'm not so sure this is totally accurate according to the news. True molesting boys won't promote society. Yet all through history priests and popes have gotten nuns and lay women pregnant.
@petlover0231
@petlover0231 8 ай бұрын
Right?!!!
@tgriffin3059
@tgriffin3059 7 ай бұрын
How so? Catholics expect priests to be celibate. They expect everybody else to procreate. It really doesn't take much to impress you people, does it?
@martincohen8991
@martincohen8991 6 ай бұрын
Consider all the things that the priests have been accused of.
@tgriffin3059
@tgriffin3059 6 ай бұрын
@@martincohen8991 Yeah...what about it? They're men....human beings....and as such, are flawed and prone to typical frailties....
@alexcosta1880
@alexcosta1880 6 ай бұрын
The world should watch this. Thank you John for that awesome lecture, that gives me light for when anyone comes to argue with me again
@johnandrick64
@johnandrick64 8 ай бұрын
Your video title held me away for a few passes, John, as I'm in "the choir" and felt I knew the words to "the song". Just a year ago I had to say "adieu" to my loving partner of 54 years. We met in the seminary, destined to be Catholic missionary priests. Once we fell in love and knew that our vocations had to be outside the church, we felt that living as a couple in a residential neighbourhood would be our way of being the missionaries we hoped to be with a more subtle message of love for all, and an example to the "uninitiated"of love for one of the same sex.
@Worms_
@Worms_ 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh quoting the Bible as an actual point is like saying “because I said so” or “because my mommy told me and my mommy is smart”
@stevenbartel5008
@stevenbartel5008 3 жыл бұрын
The difference is that your mom exist and you can prove that
@ladyjatheist2763
@ladyjatheist2763 3 жыл бұрын
well said.
@sunsundks3891
@sunsundks3891 3 жыл бұрын
The bible didnt even really mention homosexuality
@uteriel282
@uteriel282 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunsundks3891 he read the passage IN THE BIBLE that mentioned homosexuality in case you missed it. saying its not there when its clearly written black on white is a very bad agument.
@kurtism
@kurtism 3 жыл бұрын
Uteriel that doesn’t make sense. The word homosexual was coined in 1869 and the last testament was written in 100 AD. There’s no way that the word “homosexual” was mentioned in the Bible. Also the word “homosexual” was mistranslated and actually was meant to say “pedophile”
@leavesofdecember
@leavesofdecember 4 жыл бұрын
my straight friend's moral opinion on the matter (when this wasn't even a political topic yet) : "sure, you guys should absolutely have the right to be just as miserable as we are !" - I still feel like he nailed it ! :D ))
@hydraelectricblue
@hydraelectricblue 4 жыл бұрын
Nailed it
@Ineptatpiano
@Ineptatpiano 4 жыл бұрын
Starhunter lol if you’re here you’re definitely gay and in denial
@starhunter9085
@starhunter9085 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ineptatpiano *I'm open to hearing other people's opinions but I still have my personal point of view.*
@MariosPOS
@MariosPOS 4 жыл бұрын
@@starhunter9085 what does it matter tho?
@Ineptatpiano
@Ineptatpiano 4 жыл бұрын
@@starhunter9085 Okay, same. I apologize for assuming you were a closeted homosexual. People can be sick HIV positive though, or in good health and still miserable. So I found your comment to be slightly insulting. Have you ever considered that it's harsh judgement that forced gay people to focus predominately on casual, anonymous sex if they wanted any fleeting human contact at all? Since their legitimate romantic interests were not supported by society or their families? Lol. Maybe it's not that gay people are mostly sad because they're gay, but because they're surrounded by self righteous hypocrites who won't love them but also won't allow them to find love? I'm not going to assume your personal point of view, so may I ask, what is it regarding homosexuality and yourself?
@kois-tvnewsoisvideoproduct1190
@kois-tvnewsoisvideoproduct1190 8 ай бұрын
This is just amazing. I'm just sorry it's taken me so long to find this. I can't wait to share it with people I love.
@Joshiboiy
@Joshiboiy 4 ай бұрын
I personally do not agree, I have had homosexual thoughts, but I believe in Jesus. He helps me to not seek pleasure but live a life for God's glory. By believing in him I have not only gotten over homosexual thoughts, but heterosexual thoughts that consumed my mind. Also lying, stealing, and hate for others. Coming to Christ, I realized that nobody's perfect but because of that I could not trust myself. I needed to be forgiven of all sins or I was going to hell. But Jesus lived a perfect life in my place and by believing in him I don't go to hell but have eternal life. God Bless you!
@darylwardsnyder4406
@darylwardsnyder4406 7 ай бұрын
WOW!!! John Corvino is brilliant. Full of heart. Full of conviction. And philosophically sound. He built his arguments on rational strong foundations. I’m so thankful I stumbled across his presentation!
@edithbannerman4
@edithbannerman4 4 ай бұрын
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
@ItsXaphanex
@ItsXaphanex 4 жыл бұрын
Straight man here, this is one of the best videos I've ever watched. Every word spoken is truth.
@owensodyssey2539
@owensodyssey2539 3 жыл бұрын
True statement
@fronttide
@fronttide 3 жыл бұрын
don't be so quick to judge just based on 60 minute video, you need to dive deeper into it's philosophy, history and morality. there are a reason why christian morality are foundation for western society.
@chrisa.k.a.pandagaybro5778
@chrisa.k.a.pandagaybro5778 3 жыл бұрын
@@fronttide Enlighten me.
@fronttide
@fronttide 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisa.k.a.pandagaybro5778 tbh this kind of topic is huge, not something can write on youtube comment. this is something need to be talked for hours with cup of coffee :3 but i'll do my best. this is merely one part of huge topic, in any society that based their morality on abrahamic religion like cristiany, islam, and judism the existence of "family" is very important for society. and this topic of family is also really huge, but i'll give you one example that actually happen in this world today. if you see in china few decade ago they implament one family one child policy, and today just how much damage this policy done to chinese society is unimaginable. it's make problem start from 500million old age can't sustain themself due lack of children all the way to spoiled mentality of chinese child that effect the quality of their army. now imagine this, that kind of damage is done merely by 1 policy in 1 country, what would happen if this homosexuality and transgender become the new normal? when this idea not just minority but become part of common sense. and if this idea become the bane of our future generation few hundred years later? who gonna take responsible for such disaster? this issue if far more complex than just "let those who love each other be, stop being salty"
@fronttide
@fronttide 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisa.k.a.pandagaybro5778 are you sure that homosexuality are from biological aspect and not culture? are you absolutely sure about that? i am support of motion that no one should ever get persecuted or put in harm way merely because their sexuality. but i am not support of the motion of this new normal that men can go with both man and woman, and vice verse.
@josephramirezgonzalez1424
@josephramirezgonzalez1424 7 жыл бұрын
Im not gay I'm not straight I'm bi and I am a human just like you.
@solidgator123
@solidgator123 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody cares about what you are what matters is what you do?
@keithstewart7514
@keithstewart7514 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes ppl on Earth have larger agendas than breeding to maintain mankind... I'm born in God's image. Somebody going to straighten this mankind Earth destruction thing. That kind of fix WiLL be from outside the box of "societies norm"...
@astroxturbo815
@astroxturbo815 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you are a human, but doesn't mean you sin not! A man who rapes little children, and a murder is still no more flesh and blood like you and me, but he moves through the wrong door of morality which leads to total damnation; like can be said to those whom do evil things of sexual immorality, relations of man with man, and woman with woman. These are abominations before my Lord God, whom I serve; In Jesus name, Father forgive me of my sins and the sins of my brothers and sisters, help us to follow you lord by abandoning all sin, transgression and iniquity. In Jesus name I pray, Amen.
@david2gillis260
@david2gillis260 4 жыл бұрын
@@astroxturbo815 Idiot there is no god
@spectre4179
@spectre4179 4 жыл бұрын
@@astroxturbo815 nobody wanted to hear that, it's the people like you that make religion look bad, you are literally calling this guy an abomination because of his sexual preference. Just because you believe in religion does not mean everyone else has to, so gtfo.
@hunted3355
@hunted3355 8 ай бұрын
58 minutes felt like five. Absolutely brilliantly done
@purple54997
@purple54997 6 ай бұрын
58 mins is still 58 mins. so what's the summary here?
@cishets-is-a-scum
@cishets-is-a-scum 6 ай бұрын
​@@purple54997🥱🤣
@KSAMUEL2
@KSAMUEL2 6 ай бұрын
Quite frankly, someone's sexual orientation is no one's business but their own.
@autisticsapphic8991
@autisticsapphic8991 4 жыл бұрын
KZfaq recommendations: “Why Homosexuality Is Morally Wrong” Me: wtf KZfaq you tryna convert me??
@dragonfiire8148
@dragonfiire8148 4 жыл бұрын
Not "Why it is" but "Why is it?" as in a question. This man is arguing why it isn't.
@jazzylev
@jazzylev 4 жыл бұрын
@@dragonfiire8148 Yeah, I was confused for a second by the title so I came to the comments. I wasn't going to watch 58 minutes of someone spewing nonsense and cherry-picked biblical quotes in order to tell me that I am wrong for being who I am. There is no scientific basis on which one can say homosexuality is wrong.
@dragonfiire8148
@dragonfiire8148 4 жыл бұрын
@@jazzylev Same over here. Although it is sometimes fun to hear how stupid and ignorant they sound as they make the same arguments over and over. Glad this video isn't another one of those.
@jazzylev
@jazzylev 4 жыл бұрын
DragonFiire True, some of the stuff they say is downright hilarious.
@Ibrahim-ej2wz
@Ibrahim-ej2wz 4 жыл бұрын
@@jazzylev u probably did not watch the video. stop misusing the word ignorant snowflakes
@tyleannulment2234
@tyleannulment2234 4 жыл бұрын
Idk why this is recommended but dang, I cried 😂 when he retorted "If everyone were a Roman Catholic priest, there'd be no society either." Hahaha
@tyleannulment2234
@tyleannulment2234 4 жыл бұрын
@Steve But by being a Catholic, you go to church and listen to a priest, right? Pagan thing or not, they practice it.
@brothertyler
@brothertyler 3 жыл бұрын
The celibacies in Roman Catholicism is unbiblical. God tells you to be fruitful and multiply.
@tyleannulment2234
@tyleannulment2234 3 жыл бұрын
@@brothertyler Why is celibacy required for priests? Please enlighten me.
@brothertyler
@brothertyler 3 жыл бұрын
@@tyleannulment2234 The celibacies in Roman Catholicism is unbiblical. God tells you to be fruitful and multiply. The celibacies in Roman Catholicism is unbiblical. God tells you to be fruitful and multiply. The celibacies in Roman Catholicism is unbiblical. God tells you to be fruitful and multiply. The celibacies in Roman Catholicism is unbiblical. God tells you to be fruitful and multiply. The celibacies in Roman Catholicism is unbiblical. God tells you to be fruitful and multiply. The celibacies in Roman Catholicism is unbiblical. God tells you to be fruitful and multiply. UNBIBLICAL UNBIBLICAL NOT REQUIRED Why are you spiritually blind?
@brothertyler
@brothertyler 3 жыл бұрын
@@tyleannulment2234 CATHOLICS ARE NOT CHRISTIANS
@bridgetdoman1386
@bridgetdoman1386 7 ай бұрын
Looking through youtube this afternoon, I came across this video by chance and decided to listen. Never heard of this guy (I'm in the UK so perhaps understandable) but he said so much of what I've been thinking for years, although much better and more eloquent. I am not gay/lesbian, or anything like that, but I have worked with gay people and known plenty of gay people in the past. One woman I know has 4 daughters and 2 of them are gay, having children with their respective female partners - probably IVF but I've not asked, it's none of my business. My next door neighbour in 1971/72 was openly gay, at a guess in his 50s. My then husband (we were 19) often popped round to his house for a chat and he once remarked what a good looking guy my husband was. I hope John Corvino is still giving his lectures and in the same way as he does here, showing the absurdity of how some people think and contradict themselves.
@pyrobryan
@pyrobryan 6 ай бұрын
I would be interested to hear any anti-gay person come up with a coherent and cogent argument against the points he addressed.
@thehowlinggamer5784
@thehowlinggamer5784 4 жыл бұрын
"The more normal it becomes, the more people will be gay" No, dingus, the numbers don't really change. People just become more open about it the less adversity there is against it.
@anthonyl.9059
@anthonyl.9059 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Wesemann That’s what he’s saying dingus. The more. Normalized it becomes, the more people will come out, raising the numbers, because a lot of people stay closeted for life.
@thehowlinggamer5784
@thehowlinggamer5784 4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyl.9059 I'm saying this to the stupidity of people thinking that people can just turn gay or straight, moron.
@thatguyben7754
@thatguyben7754 4 жыл бұрын
No one will "turn gay" if homosexuality is normalised. Sure, there may be more openly gay people, but the actual number will stay the same. The only number that really changes is that the number of people living in fear and oppression will decrease and I have no idea why people are opposed to that. (Also soz for using gay as a summary for all LGBT its just easier to write and sounds better lmao.)
@thehowlinggamer5784
@thehowlinggamer5784 4 жыл бұрын
Dumbass, that's exactly what I am saying. No one turns gay or straight. You either are or you are not. You can change who you are with, but you can never change your feelings towards people, and that is the deciding factor.
@JonJonWilli
@JonJonWilli 4 жыл бұрын
@@thehowlinggamer5784 I mean they can, I did. But it doesn't happen over night. A straight person can start to have different interest and get curious is what I mean
@Luke-tg2tl
@Luke-tg2tl 3 жыл бұрын
I thought he was gonna hate, then he started talking and I realized he's smart
@Texas-yeehaw
@Texas-yeehaw 3 жыл бұрын
He baited the people who actually needed to hear it... Smart
@elliesteele2027
@elliesteele2027 3 жыл бұрын
@@Texas-yeehaw The people who needed to hear it didn't listen. They just continued to be homophobic.
@Texas-yeehaw
@Texas-yeehaw 3 жыл бұрын
@@elliesteele2027 not really. I've used this argument to make people understand. I'm in a rural,deeply religious area. There are a lot of people who are homophobic by tradition, they mimic their parents with out any idea why. And once you make them realize there's nothing morally wrong with homosexuality they can change their mind.
@RolaiEckolo
@RolaiEckolo 3 жыл бұрын
They had us in the first half not gonna lie
@alejandrovallejo4330
@alejandrovallejo4330 3 жыл бұрын
Luke not because someone has a different opinion than yours means he/she is spreading hate nor does it mean he/she is dumb.
@June_The_Goon
@June_The_Goon 7 ай бұрын
He said "yes they do" with so much conviction in his voice, this is amazing
@undeniablySomeGuy
@undeniablySomeGuy 6 ай бұрын
52:52 This actually brought tears to my eyes. Whenever I meet a queer kid, I feel such a strong sense of responsibility over them. No matter who they are, just knowing this kid is gay like me makes me fee like I am in some way a big brother. I'm sure when I'm a bit older I'll feel more like a father to them. I want to do everything I possibly can to protect gay kids, and this talk in some way helps me know why. Aside from how minorities are stuck together by their minority status, gay people as a group generally do not get to have their own kids. Our people can be born anywhere to anyone.
@ImthebiggestTMNTfan
@ImthebiggestTMNTfan 4 ай бұрын
YOU GET ITTTTTT!! Same for me but I'm an older sister instead:D
@goldenbeano1651
@goldenbeano1651 4 жыл бұрын
*reads title* Me: here's your answer. Nothing.
@goldenbeano1651
@goldenbeano1651 4 жыл бұрын
@Marieluise Horne e x a c t l y
@EricaGamet
@EricaGamet 4 жыл бұрын
Just saying "nothing" isn't an argument, though...this video lays out the arguments against the "It's morally wrong" cries. Just saying nothing will put you in a volley of "It's wrong!" "No it's not!" "Yes it is!" I prefer my stances I take to have a little backbone. Even though we know that there IS nothing wrong...you are correct!
@pjaypender1009
@pjaypender1009 4 жыл бұрын
If you are ever curious as to why "No" is the correct answer, you should watch this video. Because it's a gay man explaining why homosexuality isn't immoral.
@urmom6464
@urmom6464 4 жыл бұрын
Well some people just don’t like gays like me I don’t do bad things to them I just ignore them because I want nothing to do with them
@urmom6464
@urmom6464 4 жыл бұрын
And you are sadly false
@rudy5865
@rudy5865 4 жыл бұрын
Why am i seeing this just now? This has been an empowering moment in my life just listening to this man. The world is a cruel place for gay people and you just made me feel safer through the 57 minutes i used to watch you. This is therapeutic!
@steveroberts704
@steveroberts704 4 жыл бұрын
The Bible does not condemn homosexuality. If you want proof, here is a book that took forty years of scholarly research to find the complete, factual and irrefutable answers. I hope you will read it and help others with the information: www.amazon.com/dp/1698285825/ref=nav_timeline_asin?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@mr.greenjeans8323
@mr.greenjeans8323 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you completely..by the title I thought here we go again..why am I even considering watching this that'll be 58 minutes of my life I can't get back....it was probably the best 58 minutes I've had in 56 years ..and now I think WHY didn't someone give that lecture 60 years ago I feel it will turn the tide for alot of upcoming gays and lesbians though in my 56 years I've seen alot of change taking place for the better
@steveroberts704
@steveroberts704 4 жыл бұрын
@Oscar Benigsen And what is YOUR point? You sound like a homophobe troll who just happened to see another gay person set free from your grasp.
@steveroberts704
@steveroberts704 4 жыл бұрын
@@uber2440 Apparently you don't know what the book is about that I recommended. The center of anti-gay bigotry in the world today is the Church, and the Church abuses the Bible to make their claim, so, in order to fight this bigotry on one front (there are many fronts that we can use), one must be able to show that the Bible does NOT condemn homosexuality. Whether you believe in God or not is irrelevant. If you are going to let people misinterpret the Bible to abuse gays, then you are aiding and abetting. This book shows that those who abuse the Bible to condemn homosexuals are wrong. And for the record, "religion's main message" is NOT "to spread love, positivity and welcome everyone." Religion is man-made. The teachings of Jesus Christ teach love, positivity and welcome everyone, and where man-made religions miss the boat is when they stop following Jesus Christ and start inserting their own bigotries and prejudices in place of what Jesus taught.
@steveroberts704
@steveroberts704 4 жыл бұрын
@@uber2440 Atheists and Christians alike need to all understand that there is no logical foundation for being anti-gay. Regardless of a person's religious beliefs, or lack thereof, the common ground should be to find the truth about this prejudice and bigotry, then end it. Here is the simple truth in three parts: the Bible never condemns homosexuality (provable and verifiable); anti-homosexual prejudice began as a POLITICAL tool under the reign of Emperor Constantine in the 4th Century; this political prejudice entered Church politics as a consequence of what happened under Emperor Constantine and evolved to what we have today, a baseless bigotry that harms millions. Thus, we all need to understand the roots of this bigotry and work to end it. My arguments are neither for nor against religion, because that is inconsequential. A person can be an atheist, a person can be a Christian, and they can both share the same Truth, that being, homosexuality is not wrong by any definition.
@timmothycopeland4866
@timmothycopeland4866 7 ай бұрын
As a 51 year old gay orphan, your words about our children not being born unto us, gave me a very different look at life in general. I'm at a point in my life, where I'm still questioning how and where I fit in, and what, if anything, am I going to leave behind? This has certainly given me a different focus. And, for that, I'm overwhelmingly grateful.
@elzoog
@elzoog 6 ай бұрын
The issue of where you fit in is a real one. The only practical answer to that is, you fit in anywhere you are accepted. Go where you are treated best. As far as what you will leave behind, I wouldn't worry about it. Most people don't leave anything behind. Even if you have children, your children are likely to ignore whatever it is you want them to do or believe and then go on to do or believe whatever they want anyway. Probably most of your ancestors would be shocked by your lifestyle but the main question there is, do you really care about that? You have rejected their values, as you should! So what did they really "leave behind"?
@meowdaruff5621
@meowdaruff5621 7 ай бұрын
👇 for lgbtq+ people who were just curious what this person's stance is
@bohd3
@bohd3 3 жыл бұрын
You could absolutely have an all homosexual society. Reproduction would be more of a "take one for the team" affair.
@sarahmchugh4169
@sarahmchugh4169 3 жыл бұрын
Uh, or some simple artificial insemination and co-parenting
@xxhellspawnedxx
@xxhellspawnedxx 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was the case for most of history anyways, if one wants to argue the point. Marriage largely wasn't about spontaneous love developing between two willing parties, til very late in our history, like, within the last 200 years. Prior to that, marriage was a financial and political ploy, to consolidate resources and power. Still is, to a certain extent, though it's not quite as blatant or universal anymore.
@jaritzmendi8896
@jaritzmendi8896 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's true, I've seen real life situations where there is a gay and lesbian couple who worked together to have children and each adopted one to raise as their own.
@soraxstacy1477
@soraxstacy1477 3 жыл бұрын
There is this species of lizards that are all female, they mate with eachother and reproduce with eachother, they're basically the plot of Jurrasic Park, where nature finds a way
@Yoshiclue321AJ
@Yoshiclue321AJ 3 жыл бұрын
or the uh,, whats it called,, something with like sperm donors and stuff but also if we as a society were all homosexual i'm sure we would evolve to have like reproduction but like with one person?? I don't remember what it's called,,, I dont remember a lot of things,,, edit: iTS ASEXUAL REPRODUCTION
@gash8995
@gash8995 3 жыл бұрын
You know this is 7 years old when he says “those Bluetooth earpiece things”
@juliusvinh109
@juliusvinh109 7 ай бұрын
What an eloquent speech , it touched me every words , the last part was the most powerful , the intelligence of this man is packed in one session for everyone to hear and think about it for a long time to come !
@guywardell
@guywardell 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant! Genius! AND last but not least FINALLY! Thank you John! This lecture should be incorporated into the Senior High School curriculum. In addition with the evidence coming out (sic) about the biological scientific evidence coming through and how it is also related to " population control " within families, and so on and so forth. You have made my day with your insight. Keep fighting the good fight, John.
@SpankinHands
@SpankinHands 4 жыл бұрын
In my own life before I came out gay and afterward, I noticed the same dynamic: people who are upset about my sexuality are freaked out over what they THINK I do. Politicians and religious leaders who are freakishly anti-gay OBSESS about gay sex.
@isaac.2031
@isaac.2031 4 жыл бұрын
AH WAIT I RELATE TO THIS SO MUCH
@brotheresquire2776
@brotheresquire2776 3 жыл бұрын
What does the bible really say on the LGBT community go to my channel and watch my latest show
@dumpydapillow8519
@dumpydapillow8519 3 жыл бұрын
@@brotheresquire2776 Who cares what the bible says? It can say what it wants, but at the end of the day, it ain’t making any damn sense.
@brotheresquire2776
@brotheresquire2776 3 жыл бұрын
@@dumpydapillow8519 you care
@pootpolice5286
@pootpolice5286 3 жыл бұрын
They care more about gay sex than most gay people 💀🤚
@shelcoop1
@shelcoop1 4 жыл бұрын
I think ignorance is an aspect too. While I was still closeted I worked at this place. Their was this younger guy that was openly gay. One of our shift leads said "I don't have a problem, but how can he know he's gay, he told me he's never had sex with a woman” I thought that's just ignorant. So I said to him "have you ever had sex with a man" he said "no of course not" so I said "then how do you know your not gay"
@danial804
@danial804 4 жыл бұрын
Sheldon C this is a great example of double standards surrounding people who aren’t straight/cis and it’s honestly kinda ridiculous at this point. It is nice to see their reaction when you expose their double standard though.
@armymanssg508
@armymanssg508 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, it's the "ignorance" of the word of God that's the problem, you 'think" your limited lifespan "opinion' is above God's law and that is your "problem" you'd better take a look at a graveyard God has always had the "final" word and he clearly said same-gender sex is a sexually immoral sin he does not accept Jude 1:7, 1 Cor 6:9-11, Rev 21:8-10...😊😊😊😊
@ChristoferKelly
@ChristoferKelly 3 жыл бұрын
@@armymanssg508 ...which would be significant if the Judaeo-Christian God wasn’t the embodiment of sin himself, who, amongst other stuff, has committed genocide; operates using actively racist ideals; murdered children; intervened in the sanctity of a married couple’s sexual relationship, preventing them from consummating by raping the virginal female; and he seems to think it’s reasonable to punish a finite amount of sin with an infinite amount of suffering. Like, basically, God is a massive fucktard and a 3 at the most.
@armymanssg508
@armymanssg508 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, have you ever heard of sovereign right? You created nothing in the universe, you don't control a thing in the universe, you don't know long you will live, you don't know when you will die, nor can you stop your death, and yet you have to STUPIDITY to "think" you can judge God, Rom 9;10 But who are you, O man to tell God what he should do. I'm not going to entertain your foolishness cause you are one lost soul and you're in for a hell of a shock when the truth is revealed...😊😊😊😊😊
@armymanssg508
@armymanssg508 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah, you'd better take a look at a graveyard cause God said "fucktards' like you will die and there's nothing you can do about it, what worse for you is he also said "fucktard" like you won't have eternal life but will be cast into hellfire and destroyed for being "fucktards" Rev 21:8-10...Sovereign right baby, you have none...😊😊😊😊😊
@donaldclark9462
@donaldclark9462 8 ай бұрын
Excellent lecture!! Thank you! A lot more people need to hear this.
@DerNiko
@DerNiko 6 ай бұрын
You gotta love the religious crowd commenting on here and proving all his points!
@stacysmith9834
@stacysmith9834 6 ай бұрын
Man-made religion/bible has nothing to do with why homosexuality is wrong. Homosexuality is unnatural for humans and goes against the laws of nature. Nature created males and females, the sexual binary for humans, in order to mate for sexual reproduction, procreate new offspring to propagte the human species. Homosexuality is a dead-end because two sperms, two eggs, two men, and two women can't make a baby. Only male sperm and female egg, the binary oppsites, the heterosexuals can make babies. Gay men have to use the opposite sex, a real, authentic, biological woman with eggs, and Lesbian women have to use the opposite sex, a real, genuine, biological man with sperm to make babies. Only males and females can make babies. Homosexuality is a dead-end. Gay sex is unnatural for humans. The digestive tract was never designed by nature to be used for sex. Nature designed the digestive tract for nutrition and to exoel fecal wastes. The rectum tears, tips, bleeds, easily traunatized by penetration and rectum is very porous organs. Anal sex causes bleeding, tears, trauma, rips, anal fissures, loss of anal sphincter tone, fecal incontinence, infections, STDs, and Gay Bowel Syndromes. Any lower animal you find in the wild that dies this dies not know better and are not ibtellifent like hunans. Humans know that the digestive tract was never designed for sex. Transgender is another dead-end and not natural for humans. Yes, clownfish, snails, and earthworms have Hermorphodite (transgender), but nsture made them that way. Clownfish do not hire pladtic surgeons, take puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, and get mutilation genital surgeries. Only humans unnaturally block a child's puberty, which is mandatory, normal healthy development of the brain, body, and reproductive system to become an adults. Nature created sex for the sole purpose of creating babies, which is why when people have SEX they use birth control pills, vondoms, contracrptives, take morning after pills, and sadly get ABORTIONS. NATURE DESIGNED SEX TO MAKE BABIES. If homosexuality was genetic, then it would have disappeared by now. Two men and two women can't make a baby. Therefore gay couples can't pass on their gay genes to their gay offspring. LGBTQIA are all sexual behaviors and social constructs.
@hongjoongsincrediblelooksa9686
@hongjoongsincrediblelooksa9686 6 ай бұрын
@@stacysmith9834 thank you for proving his point lmao
@Stardreamer90
@Stardreamer90 4 жыл бұрын
YAY, Bisexuals!! Messing up people's neat categories!
@thewriter2634
@thewriter2634 4 жыл бұрын
*You mean causing heterosexual women to be more prone to STDs especially HIV/AIDS.*
@Stardreamer90
@Stardreamer90 4 жыл бұрын
@@thewriter2634 No I was discussing stereotypes and there are a few that could be applied to heterosexual women and men who are more prone to STDs. But that would be a completely different different subject to what I was referencing.
@thewriter2634
@thewriter2634 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stardreamer90 *Alrighty then* 👍
@bulgygrey5469
@bulgygrey5469 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@Julian-xi9qf
@Julian-xi9qf 4 жыл бұрын
@@thewriter2634 As if straight people don't have STD's and lie about not having them.
@Streisand70
@Streisand70 4 жыл бұрын
I only wish we had this kind of speaker and acceptance when I was growing up. The world is way far from perfect, but it is a little better now.
@godallowsuturns679
@godallowsuturns679 4 жыл бұрын
jeffrey a better? Why? Because the world is conforming more to your lifestyle? Even if half of the world became gay, it does not make it right.
@Streisand70
@Streisand70 4 жыл бұрын
@@godallowsuturns679 U need to get a life. U see, when you are a kid and have ill informed, stupid people such as yourself saying the dumbest things to you, you are vulnerable. The thing is that some of us grow up and realize we don't have to take this shit from you anymore. What are you so afraid of? Us corrupting YOUR perfect world? Who died and made you king?
@michaelkantner6420
@michaelkantner6420 4 жыл бұрын
True Jeffrey, but we still have a LONG way to go before it is commonly accepted like heterosexual people are.
@michaelkantner6420
@michaelkantner6420 4 жыл бұрын
@@godallowsuturns679 You are just wrong, you can have your life your way, but we can't? How is that fair, and the main reason that we HAVE to shove our lives into your face, is because you still hold onto old-fashioned ways of thinking. Just like slavery, and segregation was a thing of the past, so too should homophobia, biases, and ignorance. How we live our lives, (and it's NOT a lifestyle) shouldn't be regulated by people with your type of thinking. Should we be segregated because of they way that we live and love? Thinking like this leads to similar actions that took place in the 1930-1940's by a group of people who thought the same way, and it lead to WWII and the holocaust. We won't let that happen to us again, and to other people simply because of who they love. Also, you have a right to hold on to your beliefs, but when you try to force them on other people, you no longer are a human being, but more like a dictator making sure that your way is the only way. You say that you're "not afraid of you guys multiplying, or your life is in no way being "corrupted" by our choice to be gay", but by your statements and your reactions, you are afraid of something about homosexuals, or homosexuality in general, if you weren't, you wouldn't have commented the way that you have to me and to Jeffery A. Especially your comment to me, "hopefully never", that's more hateful than just not being afraid.
@godallowsuturns679
@godallowsuturns679 4 жыл бұрын
One more thing: please stop comparing yourself to the holocaust or slavery. You are way off topic with that. You are in no way a victim. They suffered horribly for a cause. You chose this mess!
@1592sandra
@1592sandra 6 ай бұрын
Love how you presented this...wish the people who really need to see it would actually watch it!🤞
@markastoforoff7838
@markastoforoff7838 8 ай бұрын
Great speech, I know this was 10 years ago but it needs to be shown in 2023 with what's happening now.
@curtiswoodings3589
@curtiswoodings3589 11 ай бұрын
John--I am a gay man in my early 70's and have heard so much hate against us people over the years. I feel it's because they just don't understand what love is really all about...nor do they care to understand. But I can honestly say that your speech is THE BEST ONE I have ever heard about Gay people. You should be very proud because you presented your case and backed it all up with fantastic knowledge. Well done and thanks so much for educating all those who needed to be able to better understand us Gay Folks. You're a HERO in my book.
@frankm7117
@frankm7117 9 ай бұрын
Well said.
@sardicky
@sardicky 9 ай бұрын
Well said
@jackstrubbe7608
@jackstrubbe7608 9 ай бұрын
I have to agree. At 75, my life has been at times awkward, exacerbated by being born Catholic and a survivor of priest abuse. Bt I held to my beliefs, created my own comfort zone, and expanded upon that in college when I found myself in NYC and at the Stonewall rebellion. I find it sometimes sad that we are continually having to stand our ground, especially in the wave of republican political attacks. This lecture should be required curriculum in all high schools. Thank you for being so clear and timeless.
@in4med4ever
@in4med4ever 9 ай бұрын
Sorry, you had to experience all the hate...all due to ignorance...grew up Catholic and went to church for 30 years...in my 30s I started to feel as if I were wearing a mask because I couldn't speak about supporting homosexuality...finally, I stopped going to church...my voice has found the loudest possible volume about educating my kids (students 6-19yrs.) and adults (when I do see any)...times are really changing...being open and positive about sex is the only way to protect the vulnerable...how can people make the right choices if they aren't even taught...sex isn't wrong, abuse is...i only go by acceptance and vigilance...
@in4med4ever
@in4med4ever 9 ай бұрын
@@jackstrubbe7608 sorry about your pain...blindly protecting priests is one of the reasons I stopped going to church as well...I tell my young students that sex isn't wrong but abuse of the vulnerable is...I'm trying to educate them better than I was (I mostly learned through reading)...though I do tell my young ones to wait until they really understand what they are going to do...I have never been interested in relationships and now am exploring the possibility of being asexual...young people are becoming more knowledgeable though we have to keep working to educate them positively...wish you happiness and peace...
@danial804
@danial804 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame this video hasn’t even cracked a million views. Yes, this is a lot, but this is such a great message and should satisfy all those close minded people. It should be viewed by billions.
@truly_being_iringo
@truly_being_iringo 4 жыл бұрын
David Explorer 😂😂😂😂😂😂, so true.
@starhunter9085
@starhunter9085 4 жыл бұрын
*I have a rebuttal to pretty much everything he said. He was invalid on a number of topics and I could give a logical debate as to why there is a problem with the rainbow community.*
@danial804
@danial804 4 жыл бұрын
Starhunter if you mean just the lgbtq “community” as a whole, yes there are a number of problems in it. But that wasn’t what this talk was about. It was about the arguments against homosexuality, not the lgbtq community. But I’d be happy to learn of others opinions, so feel free to speak your mind.
@starhunter9085
@starhunter9085 4 жыл бұрын
@@danial804 *I don't see the difference between the lgbtq community and homosexuality so you've got me confused there.*
@starhunter9085
@starhunter9085 4 жыл бұрын
@@danial804 *I just posted a lengthy comment about my rebuttal to his video but KZfaq automatically took it down. Bastards! I'll find another way of wording it so I can tell you about it.*
@ggooda
@ggooda 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing presentation! Please keep producing this content!
@MichelleMikey-el6pb
@MichelleMikey-el6pb 4 ай бұрын
❤#1 Heterosexuality was CREATED BY NATURE in order to reproduce offspring so the species continues. Gay is a dead end. You must have OPPOSITE SEXES to make babiy. #2 Gays can't procreate. Gays use of digestive tract for sex is impossible to procreate because sperm mixed with feces can't make babies. 2 men, 2 sperm, 2 ladies and 2 eggs can't make babies. #3 Trees, flowers, birds, bees, fish and humans all undergo heterosexual reproduction to procreate offspring. Trees, ferns and flowers have no brain but the ova and angiosperm must UNITE to create new offspring. #4 Ultimately, the BIBLE IS MAN-MADE. The Bible was written by humans. NATURAL LAW supercedes the Bible. Natural Law is INNATE, IMMUTABLE, and best for all. The LAWS OF NATURE RULE. #5 Humans invented and created homosexuality and the use of digestive tract for sex. #6 Gays say anal sex is normal because animals in forest, jungle or sea do this activity. Do not take advice from lower animals. HUMANS KNOW BETTER. Humans are the most intelligent animal on earth. #6 There are also animals thar EAT, THEIR YOUNG and commit INCEST when their young grow up..Are you going to take the advice of those animals too, and eat your kids? Are you going to have incest with your own kids as you see other animals do in nature too? Nope. Humans are the most intelligent animal on earth AND WE KNOW BETTER NATURE RULES. ❤ LOVE YA
@Nonalhomophobie
@Nonalhomophobie 4 ай бұрын
@@MichelleMikey-el6pb SHUT UP, homophobic fanatic rambling sc*mbag. 1) Nature did not create anything, and too much procreation can kill a species and several others in the process. Gay is NOT a dead-end. Gay couples were seen adopting the offspring of careless heterosexual couples in some animal species. And relationships and sex are not just about procreation. 2) Gays can and do procreate. You do not decide what's possible to do with our bodies or not. 3) That's a scientific falsehood, many animal and plant species use asexual reproduction. 4) There is no such thing as natural law. 5) Homosexuality is not a human invention but exists spontaneously in nature. 6) Strawman fallacy, we never used nature to justify anal sex. You are proof that humans are NOT the most intelligent species on the planet. Appeal to nature fallacy as well.
@Joshiboiy
@Joshiboiy 4 ай бұрын
I personally do not agree, I have had homosexual thoughts, but I believe in Jesus. He helps me to not seek pleasure but live a life for God's glory. By believing in him I have not only gotten over homosexual thoughts, but heterosexual thoughts that consumed my mind. Also lying, stealing, and hate for others. Coming to Christ, I realized that nobody's perfect but because of that I could not trust myself. I needed to be forgiven of all sins or I was going to hell. But Jesus lived a perfect life in my place and by believing in him I don't go to hell but have eternal life. God Bless you!
@Nonalhomophobie
@Nonalhomophobie 4 ай бұрын
@@Joshiboiy You will never get over your homosexuality, it is part of you and you can’t get rid of it. Embrace it or you will never be happy.
@jonassnell132
@jonassnell132 5 ай бұрын
Very Strong and Very Right! A+ Lecture from John Corvino. Thank you John !!!🌈
@stevo9189
@stevo9189 Жыл бұрын
This guy is a very talented speaker, I have never heard anyone speak so clear. Everyone was engaged. If we could all apply his thinking and balanced arguments in our lives I realty think the world would be a lot better off.
@catherinepatton8699
@catherinepatton8699 4 ай бұрын
Agree, we can change our view of many things it takes a.will plus love we as humans are able to change when we are educated have facts ad friends helping us to see difference is OK, its good we learn to change by knowing differences.
@maimunatlasisi62
@maimunatlasisi62 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very educative lecture and eye opening for me as a Muslim.
@Steef_Lee
@Steef_Lee 4 жыл бұрын
@Maimunat Lasisi - I’m glad to hear that. Just don’t let religious people cloud your judgement now that you have been educated.
@truthseekeralways7050
@truthseekeralways7050 4 жыл бұрын
@Iman F I am born into Muslim Family I Appreciate what you wrote Thank You 💕 GOD Bless You 😇
@ohh5178
@ohh5178 4 жыл бұрын
Maimunat Lasisi I thank you on the behalf of the community. it’s very brave of you to question your beliefs and admit that you might have been wrong. It’s really difficult for a lot of people to do just that and some become very defensive although they themselves feel like they’re in the wrong. Glad you’ve made some insight :)
@hifdhworkshop75
@hifdhworkshop75 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rJNdddh5vbylZ2Q.html
@carolinepaton6067
@carolinepaton6067 4 жыл бұрын
@Jake M try reading his comment again
@violetskieso3
@violetskieso3 6 ай бұрын
This is one of the best lectures I have heard in a long time and it is also one of the most important. Thank you for your this wonderful work. I wish it wasn't so relevant still, but boy is it.
@LifeLiberty-rn6bq
@LifeLiberty-rn6bq 6 ай бұрын
Man-made religion/bible has nothing to do with why homosexuality is wrong. Homosexuality is unnatural for humans and goes against the laws of nature. Nature created males and females, the sexual binary for humans, in order to mate for sexual reproduction, procreate new offspring to propagte the human species. Homosexuality is a dead-end because two sperms, two eggs, two men, and two women can't make a baby. Only male sperm and female egg, the binary oppsites, the heterosexuals can make babies. Gay men have to use the opposite sex, a real, authentic, biological woman with eggs, and Lesbian women have to use the opposite sex, a real, genuine, biological man with sperm to make babies. Only males and females can make babies. Homosexuality is a dead-end. Gay sex is unnatural for humans. The digestive tract was never designed by nature to be used for sex. Nature designed the digestive tract for nutrition and to expel fecal wastes POOP!. The rectum tears, Rips, bleeds, easily traunatized by penetration and rectum is very porous organs. Anal sex causes bleeding, tears, trauma, rips, anal fissures, loss of anal sphincter tone, fecal incontinence, infections, STDs, and Gay Bowel Syndromes. Any lower animal you find in the wild that dies this DOES not know better and are not intellifent like humans. Humans are the most intelligent animal on planet EARTH . HUMANS know better and that the digestive tract was NEVER designed for sex. The digestive system should never be used for sex. Transgender is another dead-end and not natural for humans. Yes, clownfish, snails, and earthworms have Hermorphodite (transgender), but nature made them that way. Clownfish do not hire plastic surgeons, take puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, body modification surgery, and get mutilation genital surgeries. Only humans unnaturally block a child's puberty, which is mandatory, normal healthy human development of the brain, body, and reproductive system to become a mature, full grown adults. Nature created sex for the sole purpose of creating babies, which is why when people have SEX they use birth control pills, condoms, contracrptives, take morning after pills, and sadly get ABORTIONS. NATURE DESIGNED SEX TO MAKE BABIES. If homosexuality and transgender was genetic, then all that would have disappeared by now. Two men and two women can't make a baby. Therefore gay couples can't pass on their gay genes to their gay offspring. LGBTQIA are all sexual behaviors and social constructs, NOT genetic and not NATURAL.
@Nonalhomophobie
@Nonalhomophobie 6 ай бұрын
"Homosexuality is unnatural for humans and goes against the laws of nature." Homosexuality is natural and there is no such thing as laws of nature. "Nature created males and females" Nature created nothing. It's not a sentient being. " in order to mate for sexual reproduction, procreate new offspring to propagte the human species" Sex is not to be summed up to procreation. " Homosexuality is a dead-end because two sperms, two eggs, two men, and two women can't make a baby." Irrelevant, they can raise babies, and their relationship is as valid as any other. "Gay sex is unnatural for humans." It's natural. "The digestive tract was never designed by nature to be used for sex." The penis is the end of the digestive tract for urine and yet we use it for sex, try again. "Anal sex causes bleeding, tears, trauma, rips, anal fissures, loss of anal sphincter tone, fecal incontinence, infections, STDs, and Gay Bowel Syndromes. " Anal sex does not cause any of those things. Bleeding, tears, trauma, rips, anal fissures, loss of anal sphincter tone is when it's prepared poorly or is too rough. Infections, STDs are when it's unsafe, which ALSO applies to heterosexual sex. Gay bowel syndrom is a myth. "All those homosexual animals you mentioned do not know better, or not smart and not intelligent." Sex is not about being smart or intelligent. " HUMANS are the most INTELLIGENT animals on planet earth. " No they're not. We contaminate, discriminate and elect toxic people to run entire countries. I don't call that being intelligent compared to other animals which do not do that. "HOMOSEXUALITY ALWAYS GIES AGAINST NATURAL LAW, biology, physiology, anatomy, histology AND the LAWS OF NATURE." There is no such thing as "natural law" ; homosexuality exists in nature ; it doesn't go against biology, physiology, anatomy or histology (whatever that is). "CASE CLOSED. " You do not decide that. "Two men, two sperm, two eggs, two women, AND SELF-sterilized transgrnder people CAN NOT MAKE BABIES. " Irrelevant. Menopaused women can't have babies, that's not why menopause is wrong. "The laws of nature state "You must have two people of the opposite sex to make babies." " Nature disagrees, starting by parthenogenesis among certain species. And nature did not state any of that until you bring a record of it stating that. "You Cant make a baby in the anus, rectum or digestive tract." Irrelevant. Sex is about pleasure. "Sex change surgery means you are still a real man or woman." No, it means trans men are men and trans women are women. "An inverted penis is not a vagina." IRRELEVANT. It's the identity gender that prevails.@@LifeLiberty-rn6bq "Nature created sex for the sole purpose of creating babies" No, it's for PLEASURE. "Transgender is another dead-end and not natural for humans." It's not a dead-end and it is natural. Once again, trans people are not sterile. "If homosexuality and transgender was genetic, then all that would have disappeared by now." There is such thing as recessive genes, and procreation by homosexuals. "Therefore gay couples can't pass on their gay genes to their gay offspring." Just because they're gay doesn't mean their offsprings will be. "LGBTQIA are all sexual behaviors and social constructs, NOT genetic and not NATURAL." They are NATURAL, not social constructs or mere behavior, and it doesn't even need to be genetic.
@Julian-on9qv
@Julian-on9qv 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the value created through that talk. It was exceptionally well done!
@chocolatepudding1241
@chocolatepudding1241 3 жыл бұрын
What is truly sad is that there are people in the comments who didn’t listen to a single word he said. They came here to bash on people who just want to be free to love, just because they don’t like the way we love. And if one of y’all replies to me with a bs religious argument, just know that I feel really sorry for you. You are in a belief system in which you will never allow yourself to question your holy book or your preacher (or to even use reasoning), because that would be a sin. I would like to say that when I realized that I am gay, I was disgusted and cried and prayed every night to become straight. Of course, it didn’t work, because a loving god would not create me to be this way just to condemn me for loving someone. I hope that you religious anti-gay people can find love and understanding in your hearts.
@miri8851
@miri8851 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Weird I will say I thought this was going another route and instantly disliked... the title looked like it was going to be Christian propaganda.
@giuseppegaribaldi7272
@giuseppegaribaldi7272 3 жыл бұрын
Ya I'm literally just replying "what the video again" cuz they're dorkesus who can't be bothered to listen for an hour
@brianbruce7243
@brianbruce7243 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comment. I can relate alot with what you said. It's comforting to know people like us are not alone.
@bluesolace9052
@bluesolace9052 3 жыл бұрын
They’re perhaps just scared the man’s argument will make sense
@Lerian_V
@Lerian_V 3 жыл бұрын
Love and sex are different things, Weirdo.
@dsteely2588
@dsteely2588 4 жыл бұрын
I have resisted looking at this video for months every time it shows up on KZfaq “suggestions” because I thought it would be another evangelical/fundamentalist diatribe. I’ve heard enough of those! But today I thought I’d watch for a few moments so I could add a comment like “what a load of shit” etc. Boy was I surprised even after the first minute had elapsed. Here is a cogent, well presented exposition of the facts. Maybe the title is confusing and many will avoid as did I. Perhaps if it was titled : “is homosexuality morally wrong or not?” Or something like that I would have watched it much earlier than I actually did. THIS PRESENTATION IS FLAWLESS AND VALUABLE for both gay and not-gay people. An ELEVEN out of ten from me!!!!
@YouLittleRascal
@YouLittleRascal 4 жыл бұрын
I think the title is good, it might attract the people who would be against the LGBTQ+ community, and expose them to this. I actually thought the same thing you did when I saw the title.
@mslightbulb
@mslightbulb 3 жыл бұрын
Tiktaalik from a marketing standpoint it is definitely designed to attract the most important audience it wants to inform.
@llGemini19
@llGemini19 3 жыл бұрын
I think the title is supposed to be like, "gay people are morally wrong!" "ok, but, what's morally wrong with gay people?" Do you know what I mean? It's kinda like asking, ok what's wrong with gay people? Idk if I explained that well, but that's kinda how I interpret it haha I do see how it can be interpreted the way you did, though.
@tabby21dreams33
@tabby21dreams33 3 жыл бұрын
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@gardencarcass
@gardencarcass 3 жыл бұрын
@@tabby21dreams33 hey buddy are you okay?
@andrewreynolds9559
@andrewreynolds9559 5 ай бұрын
I’ve listened to so many programs on this complex subject. John is by far and away the most erudite and persuasive presenter I’ve heard dealing with all of the issues involved in sex and religion. Thankyou John.
@canaryburton7115
@canaryburton7115 6 ай бұрын
This is beautiful, thank you.
@Cryonically
@Cryonically 3 жыл бұрын
“If everyone was gay there would be no humanity” “if everyone was a POTATO there would be no humanity. But everyone is not a potato just as everyone is not gay, young grasshopper” -Lilly Singh
@alexl6510
@alexl6510 3 жыл бұрын
genuinely my favourite quote of all time
@williamhealy6381
@williamhealy6381 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nightmare-nc8eb "a village child neglected by it's people will burn the village down to feel it's warmth"
@starhunter9085
@starhunter9085 3 жыл бұрын
*The reason people say that is because of the objective standard for sex existing and what nature had intended for us. If nature intended for us to be gay, we should be able to survive on it but we can't. Therefore we can assess that being gay isn't nature's intended plan.*
@Taragon630
@Taragon630 3 жыл бұрын
.@@starhunter9085 And yet where do gay people come from? You got it, those wonderful straight people>
@starhunter9085
@starhunter9085 3 жыл бұрын
@@Taragon630 *So do murderers, rapists and thieves so...*
@vernonbrana8205
@vernonbrana8205 4 жыл бұрын
2020. This is quite possibly the most important and thorough presentation on the subject. Thank you. From the Philippines.
@thewriter2634
@thewriter2634 4 жыл бұрын
*I have a rebuttal for everything he said. He was wrong on so much in this video.*
@2026Johndoe
@2026Johndoe 4 жыл бұрын
The Writer “Because the Bible said so...”
@thewriter2634
@thewriter2634 4 жыл бұрын
@@2026Johndoe *No, because science said so.*
@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive
@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive 4 жыл бұрын
@@thewriter2634 bro......we know like 1% os science let's be honest. Don't try to sound smart
@bornyganmiddle2405
@bornyganmiddle2405 4 жыл бұрын
The Writer idk what science you thinks disproves this 🥴 literally so many scientific studies that prove the validity of homosexuality 😳 so please explain what about science is anti gay
@Charlie_Duz
@Charlie_Duz 8 ай бұрын
Outstanding! Your book sales are about to skyrocket. Well, by at least three from me. Bravo, sir! 👏👏
@leonidasspyropoulos849
@leonidasspyropoulos849 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video, thank you.
@pao6852
@pao6852 9 ай бұрын
"I'm asking you to judge people not on whom they love, but on whether they love." - John Corvino ❤️
@dan69052
@dan69052 8 ай бұрын
Truth If you are gay or transgender or know someone who is, this is important information! It has been determined that sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetal development. Various hormones such as testosterone are introduced at specific times & amounts which determine physical, biological & psychologic features of the fetus. It is, therefore, not a choice by the fetus or mother & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of life’s evolution & found commonplace in nature. Extensive medical research clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. I totally accept that this is their right to believe this and I understand. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, facts & research, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had, unfortunately, no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book if you want solid factual understanding. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section beforehand. I do not want to waste your or my time if your claim to understanding is based on religion. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance & intolerence. Peace
@Potato-ko3oc
@Potato-ko3oc 5 ай бұрын
rip asexuals lol
@thepotatoportal69
@thepotatoportal69 5 ай бұрын
@@Potato-ko3oc Asexuals still love people, just not sexually (nice pfp and name btw)
@Khayyam-vg9fw
@Khayyam-vg9fw 5 ай бұрын
He could have a successful career writing the slogans for Hallmark Cards or stories for the Care Bears.
@christiegarrett2578
@christiegarrett2578 5 ай бұрын
Your gay life is more important to you than your relationship with God. The Bible says Lying, gossiping, sex outside of marriage, stealing, pride, hatred, jealousy, greed etc are sins. the list is long. Let's say my sin is pride. If I tell God I'm willing to put my relationship with him above my pride. You are defending your sin. Go for it. You really don't need to do these lectures to justify your sin. Keep it up. Your relationship with God and willingness to do HIS will bring joy & love & peace. Some dude will never give you that.
@goforthjr
@goforthjr 9 ай бұрын
THANK YOU!! If I had heard this as a boy, I don't think I would have spent my whole life hating myself. The catholic church taught me to hate myself. In third grade of public school, they showed us a Public service announcement about the horror of homosexuality. For my entire childhood, I thought of my self as a monster whose secret must never be told.I am 70 years old now. Your words help me love myself.❤
@juliavarney9865
@juliavarney9865 9 ай бұрын
I am happy you found some peace here. I’m sorry you suffered for so long.
@dan69052
@dan69052 8 ай бұрын
Hope this helps If you are gay or transgender or know someone who is, this is important information! It has been determined that sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetal development. Various hormones such as testosterone are introduced at specific times & amounts which determine physical, biological & psychologic features of the fetus. It is, therefore, not a choice by the fetus or mother & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of life’s evolution & found commonplace in nature. Extensive medical research clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. I totally accept that this is their right to believe this and I understand. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, facts & research, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had, unfortunately, no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book if you want solid factual understanding. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section beforehand. I do not want to waste your or my time if your claim to understanding is based on religion. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance & intolerence. Peace
@lykarabbit3
@lykarabbit3 8 ай бұрын
The Catholic Church taught everyone to hate themselves😁 but yes, gay people that much more.. They also taught straight people to hate gay people.. I too wish desperately they had never had the impact on society's lives that they did.. Its shameful and to say it's in God's name too.. The same God that created us "imperfect" selves.. Absolutely ridiculous. I'm happy that finally you have learned to love and accept yourself Sir.. We're not so different, I'm finally learning that too.. 💚
@deborahcassidy3705
@deborahcassidy3705 8 ай бұрын
@@deus_vult8111 WTF?
@beatrizzepeda4052
@beatrizzepeda4052 8 ай бұрын
​@@deus_vult8111 correct the catholic church does not teach anyone to hate themselves on the contrary it teaches us to love God and love ourselves our neighbours. Those who are Christians ✝️ and allow homosexually they are hipocrits going against God's Divine Law 🙏. At the end of the day God loves sinners but detest sin, so repent and be respectful and accept Jesus as your Saviour. The devil attacks God with his most vulnerable side which are his children YOU AND I, as God created us as his own image, satan wants to destroy us and Jesus wants our salvation. JESUS THE TRUTH, THE WAY AND THE LIFE.
@whitesausagedog5392
@whitesausagedog5392 7 ай бұрын
I really want to see how he disassembles the anti trans arguments. This was so good! Very well put together.
@hongjoongsincrediblelooksa9686
@hongjoongsincrediblelooksa9686 6 ай бұрын
oh yes, me too
@Gingerblaze
@Gingerblaze 5 ай бұрын
Trans is a very different thing but would be interesting to hear his take.
@kittmiller2212
@kittmiller2212 4 жыл бұрын
What's Wrong With Homosexuality? Absolutely Nothing! and I'm 73, and I have always accepted everyone.
@thatguyben7754
@thatguyben7754 4 жыл бұрын
@Gary Lee Or maybe "gay guys" decide to "announce" their sexuality to people so they can learn and not be so politicised, and so the newer generations don't have to be in fear of their life for holding their lovers hand. I do love how your arguments, like many's, are based off of ignorance and generalisations but disguise themselves as morality and fairness. They don't want to be "some sort of hero", they just want to be able to live without constantly fighting with themselves and living in self-hatred. Arguments like yours are a large reason as to why the suicide rates, hate crimes, discrimination etc. are so high even in a society where everyone deems themselves as having perfect moral judgement. People with strong opinions but don't have any facts or examples usually are just showing a lack of knowledge in regards to the topic at hand. Have a good day.
@thatguyben7754
@thatguyben7754 4 жыл бұрын
Gary Lee “Equality often feels like oppression for those with privilege”. Also your belief that gay people are famous because they’re gay opposed to talented in many cases is hilarious, also are you implying that gay people couldn’t cure cancer where a straight person could? Being openly gay doesn’t mean you’re less than someone who’s straight and if you disagree with that you’re hilarious man. Also “projecting self hate into everyone around you” what? I think what you’re getting at is “overcoming the stereotypes and close minded people and projecting your efforts outwards, to help other people struggling instead of slowly killing your metaphorical self”. What have you got against gay people lmao, idk if you think every gay guy is James Charles or something idk lmaooooo
@thatguyben7754
@thatguyben7754 4 жыл бұрын
Steve if you cannot move past the European colonial concepts that homosexuality is wrong and unnatural, you will never accept people. Tolerate, sure, but accept is difficult. You could agree to disagree, but you’ll never be able to support someone doing something that you hate. You can ignore it, but you can’t accept it.
@thatguyben7754
@thatguyben7754 4 жыл бұрын
Brad It started as a riot. It continued as a protest. I’m sorry it’s not a family friendly, PG, fun day out. It’s about embracing who you are. Of course, people should be mindful there will be children, but at the end of the day it IS a protest. And people need to realise it’s not just a fun day out with glitter and rainbows, and they’re not suitable for children a lot of the time. Also that stuff isn’t absurdly common like people think, that’s on media distribution, but it’s not aimed at children and it won’t ruin society. People thought the internet would ruin society. People thought given women the vote would ruin society. What people should be doing is being less terrified and pessimistic. It’s a celebration of difference, and a protest. You cannot celebrate difference, but limit the difference. If you research pride for 5 minutes that’s blatantly obvious.
@brad8448
@brad8448 4 жыл бұрын
@@thatguyben7754 To be blunt: Celebration of men sticking their dicks into each others assholes. You should really visit these pride parades sometime. Disgusting. But transformation will come.
@nikivella1159
@nikivella1159 2 жыл бұрын
My son grew up in a conservative church from age of 2 to teen years !! He is gay !! Proving that being gay is NOT a choice but, the way you feel !!! I am SOO proud of him !! I don't care who he marries?? Just as long as he is happy !!! he is a GREAT kid !!! I am blessed !!! Sinners have no right to name sinners when they are sinners themselves !!! ❤🧡💙💚🖤 🏳‍🌈
@GavinAlexander.
@GavinAlexander. 2 жыл бұрын
Parents are supposed to be that place where a child finds refuge, understanding, and love. So many LGBTQ kids don't get that and have no choice but to feel fear of rejection from the ones that are supposed to protect them the most. Thank you for being what a parent should be!!
@GavinAlexander.
@GavinAlexander. 2 жыл бұрын
@Boris I'm starting to get curious about why all of your multiple personalities are obsessed with gay men. Are you just mad because your daddy is upset that you're gay?
@Nonalhomophobie
@Nonalhomophobie 2 жыл бұрын
@Boris You do not speak anything reasonable. Your god does not exist. I am happy without your god. Your extreme arrogance will be your end.
@Nonalhomophobie
@Nonalhomophobie 2 жыл бұрын
@Boris I am infinitely more reasonable and smarter than you ever will. Every comment you find new ways to make yourself even more stupid and toxic.
@GavinAlexander.
@GavinAlexander. 2 жыл бұрын
@Boris I'm starting to get curious about why all of your multiple personalities are obsessed with gay men. Are you just mad because your daddy is upset that you're gay?
@filipedias7284
@filipedias7284 7 ай бұрын
When your dream is to be a comedian but your parents want you to be a philosopher
@waverleyc.412
@waverleyc.412 7 ай бұрын
Excellent lecture! Loved it! Thank you for your insights 🙏
@tomvanderleelie7102
@tomvanderleelie7102 4 жыл бұрын
I stumbled across this most unbiased, informative presentation I’ve ever seen and heard on the subject of morality and Homosexuality. Simply brilliant!
@starhunter9085
@starhunter9085 4 жыл бұрын
*Not as brilliant as you may think. I have a rebuttal for everything he said. He left out some major details on certain topics.*
@MrShyguyRS
@MrShyguyRS 4 жыл бұрын
Starhunter Ok. Are you insinuating that you believe homosexuality is immoral from the oh-so-moral high ground of which is the likes of your profile picture?
@starhunter9085
@starhunter9085 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrShyguyRS *Yes I am actually. And what's wrong with my profile pic?*
@wildboial3060
@wildboial3060 4 жыл бұрын
Starhunter if you don't know, you have no business arguing the morality of any topic. At least not without first writing a paper on morality in general than rethinking your stance on everything.
@jolobear8205
@jolobear8205 4 жыл бұрын
he was awesome, he was unbiased and faced the facts and what is actually true in society! He didn't pick sides, but simply analyze points against homosexuality with valid arguments!
@ReasonQuest
@ReasonQuest 10 ай бұрын
This is ten years old, and it's still necessary. NECESSARY! It's SO INFORMATIVE, and SO reasonable. Thank you John!
@karstensbran1751
@karstensbran1751 8 ай бұрын
Its ALSO very reasonable to think his Mother was also a gay guy, and his father was a straight or gay guy, and they had anal sex (Sodomy) together and conceived him; both males contributing the Y chromosome, so there were no XX (female) chromosomes to form the fertilized egg, and that's why he was born a Male (Y chromosome) and not a girl (XX chromosome). Very Reasonable! Thank you John!
@mertpolatstudent8372
@mertpolatstudent8372 8 ай бұрын
@@karstensbran1751 what are you on about lmao
@theveganduolingobird7349
@theveganduolingobird7349 8 ай бұрын
@@karstensbran1751how are you so stupid yet so confident saying stupid shit?
@wsheasley
@wsheasley 8 ай бұрын
​@karstensbran1751 no one is saying homosexual people can reproduce with each other. Let go of your hatred.
@richardwildlife88-wj6kl
@richardwildlife88-wj6kl 7 ай бұрын
this is 16 years old, it was recorded in 2007
@gloriaf6971
@gloriaf6971 7 ай бұрын
This was an excellent talk. This speaker covered all the bases in a very enlightening and entertaining way.
@strafrag1
@strafrag1 7 ай бұрын
Wonderful video, John. Thank you for your dedicated, ongoing work for not just LGBTQ folks, but for all people. Peter.
@Guydude79
@Guydude79 7 ай бұрын
please stop grouping mentally challenged people with homosexuality. We ARE SICK OF IT! Thinking you are something you are not has Nothing to do with being gay.
@strafrag1
@strafrag1 7 ай бұрын
@@Guydude79 I did no such thing!
@theguntersadopt3268
@theguntersadopt3268 4 жыл бұрын
Love how funny and sophisticated he is.
@antoinethename9064
@antoinethename9064 3 жыл бұрын
I love your profile pic
@brotheresquire2776
@brotheresquire2776 3 жыл бұрын
What does the bible really say on the LGBT community go to my channel and watch my latest show
@tyronepines8694
@tyronepines8694 3 жыл бұрын
The only dislikes are from people thinking he’s a homophobe without watching the whole video
@krd5709
@krd5709 3 жыл бұрын
Tyrone Pines i always wanted Dipper to be gay tbh
@craycraywolf6726
@craycraywolf6726 3 жыл бұрын
Lol so true
@craycraywolf6726
@craycraywolf6726 3 жыл бұрын
@@krd5709 My headcanon is that he's bi...but same! I could see him with a bf!
@Lerian_V
@Lerian_V 3 жыл бұрын
I thumbed down the video because his argument is not based on natural law.
@DylweedWasTaken11
@DylweedWasTaken11 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lerian_V What's "natural law" as you put it?
@TheWorldsNo1Superstar
@TheWorldsNo1Superstar 8 ай бұрын
I'm speechless, I'm grateful, I'm in awe of the way it's explained, and so happy I found this. The parts DO FIT! 😂❤
@marti7343
@marti7343 8 ай бұрын
A lot of John's arguments could apply to the question , "What is Morally Wrong with People Being Transgender?" This was not such an obvious question when John made the video. It is now. Just like people identifying as homosexual, transgender people struggle with acceptance from individuals and society at large.
@robfj3414
@robfj3414 8 ай бұрын
Completely on point. The amount of hatred being directed at the trans community in the last few years is truly unnerving. I suspect it has a lot to do with people who are uncomfortable with the whole LGBTQ+ community throwing their anger at a more visible and vulnerable group.
@ehxjsjd4553
@ehxjsjd4553 7 ай бұрын
​@@robfj3414 yeah. I hate how political it has become too. As soon as someone finds out I'm gay, they assume my opinions about everything. (That being said, they assume right most of the time lol)
@farazzza4344
@farazzza4344 3 жыл бұрын
All the dislikes are either people who didn't watch it or homophobes who were looking for more reasons to hate
@erin-zt7zn
@erin-zt7zn 3 жыл бұрын
also the excuse "i'm not homophobic, i have gay friends" is like saying "i'm not dumb, i have smart friends." sure, it may play a part in the expression of that, and how much they aid you and help you to become more accepting/smarter, if you're dumb, you're dumb. it doesn't matter if you have smart friends or not.
@miri8851
@miri8851 3 жыл бұрын
Well it’s different because the definition of homophobic would hold as a contention the exclusion of gay friends. It’s a valid defense not a good one because I mean there can be gay homophobes but yea.
@sarcasticnotsad5155
@sarcasticnotsad5155 3 жыл бұрын
@miri Homophobia isn’t always a direct hatred or exclusion of gay people. It’s a lot more subtle when you’re in a group of friends. It’s like, when a friend of yours who seems cool with you being gay will then make gay jokes and say “that’s so gay” when they really mean “that sucks”, or follow the idea of “hate the sin, not the sinner”. While they don’t really hate you as a person, they still believe that the way you are is inherently wrong. Do you know how many friends’ would introduce me as their “trans friend”, or would joke around by using the wrong name and pronouns, not realizing that it hurt and I _wasn’t_ laughing? I legit had a friend come up to me and say that her parents didn’t usually like trans people, but they were fine with me because I “didn’t talk about all the time”. And boy, that girl had moments all to herself, like asking why I needed to transition if I was just gonna be gay.
@BrightNeonBrilliancy
@BrightNeonBrilliancy 3 жыл бұрын
My mother is transphobic and yet her sister's husband is fully transitioned. She went to their wedding. And then came home and joked about how she didn't know who to expect to be wearing the dress and how he's really just a 'gay woman' who likes pants instead of skirts. She's friendly with him and often uses him as a reason why she's 'not' transphobic. Fucked upworld, man.
@sarcasticnotsad5155
@sarcasticnotsad5155 3 жыл бұрын
@BrightNeonBrilliancy Honestly, my mom would do the same thing. She _has_ said similar things, just maybe less... brash about it. Her whole thing was telling me that I didn’t look like a boy, I looked “like a butch”, so I should give up (even though I pass lol, as long as I say I’m 13 and not my actual age). She dropped that a while ago though, once it became apparent that I wasn’t just going to drop it. Also it hurt my feelings. Like a lot. The funny thing about her telling me that I “looked butch” and to “stop acting so butch”, is that one her friends _is a lesbian_ . As in, they’ve been friends since school. She got married this year, and we literally drive cross-country to go to the wedding (and then skipped bc my mom’s an asshole).
@kristianzimmo
@kristianzimmo 3 жыл бұрын
thats kind of a poor analogy, there is a huge difference between a fear or distaste and intelligence
@masscreationbroadcasts
@masscreationbroadcasts 6 ай бұрын
2:21 Introduction to argument - the distinction 5:56 Term Orientation 7:45 "Argument in favour of homosexuality - it makes people happy" 9:14 Argument 1 - "The Bible condemns it" 10:10 Unawareness of Ceremonial Law Gambit 10:49 Opposition to gender submissiveness 11:15 Unawareness of Moral Preparedness Gambit 12:18 "The humans who wrote Bible, not God may be wrong" 13:37 "Homosexuality is only talked about in the context of idolatry" 14:04 Some considerations 15:05 "The Bible is not the root of the objection" 16:29 Argument 2 - "It's not universalizable" 18:27 "It's only an argument about exclusive homosexuality" 19:15 Argument 3 - "It's harmful" 21:26 Scientific drunk 30:17 Argument 4 - "It's a threat to society" I have something else to do, I may edit this later. In the meantime 25:18 and stop pretending you have any inclination for opposing it, 1:58 like you did in the introduction - the "if anything". If you believed in the anything, then you would end with "ok, this is bad and we need to balance it, maybe like so", you wouldn't end everything with "here's how this reason doesn't stand up".
@stacysmith9834
@stacysmith9834 6 ай бұрын
Man-made religion/bible has nothing to do with why homosexuality is wrong. Homosexuality is unnatural for humans and goes against the laws of nature. Nature created males and females, the sexual binary for humans, in order to mate for sexual reproduction, procreate new offspring to propagte the human species. Homosexuality is a dead-end because two sperms, two eggs, two men, and two women can't make a baby. Only male sperm and female egg, the binary oppsites, the heterosexuals can make babies. Gay men have to use the opposite sex, a real, authentic, biological woman with eggs, and Lesbian women have to use the opposite sex, a real, genuine, biological man with sperm to make babies. Only males and females can make babies. Homosexuality is a dead-end. Gay sex is unnatural for humans. The digestive tract was never designed by nature to be used for sex. Nature designed the digestive tract for nutrition and to exoel fecal wastes. The rectum tears, tips, bleeds, easily traunatized by penetration and rectum is very porous organs. Anal sex causes bleeding, tears, trauma, rips, anal fissures, loss of anal sphincter tone, fecal incontinence, infections, STDs, and Gay Bowel Syndromes. Any lower animal you find in the wild that dies this dies not know better and are not ibtellifent like hunans. Humans know that the digestive tract was never designed for sex. Transgender is another dead-end and not natural for humans. Yes, clownfish, snails, and earthworms have Hermorphodite (transgender), but nsture made them that way. Clownfish do not hire pladtic surgeons, take puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, and get mutilation genital surgeries. Only humans unnaturally block a child's puberty, which is mandatory, normal healthy development of the brain, body, and reproductive system to become an adults. Nature created sex for the sole purpose of creating babies, which is why when people have SEX they use birth control pills, vondoms, contracrptives, take morning after pills, and sadly get ABORTIONS. NATURE DESIGNED SEX TO MAKE BABIES. If homosexuality was genetic, then it would have disappeared by now. Two men and two women can't make a baby. Therefore gay couples can't pass on their gay genes to their gay offspring. LGBTQIA are all sexual behaviors and social constructs.
@Nonalhomophobie
@Nonalhomophobie 6 ай бұрын
@@stacysmith9834 SHUT UP !! "Homosexuality is unnatural for humans and goes against the laws of nature." Homosexuality is natural and there is no such thing as laws of nature. "Nature created males and females" Nature created nothing. It's not a sentient being. " in order to mate for sexual reproduction, procreate new offspring to propagte the human species" Sex is not to be summed up to procreation. " Homosexuality is a dead-end because two sperms, two eggs, two men, and two women can't make a baby." Irrelevant, they can raise babies, and their relationship is as valid as any other. "Gay sex is unnatural for humans." It's natural. "The digestive tract was never designed by nature to be used for sex." The penis is the end of the digestive tract for urine and yet we use it for sex, try again. "Anal sex causes bleeding, tears, trauma, rips, anal fissures, loss of anal sphincter tone, fecal incontinence, infections, STDs, and Gay Bowel Syndromes. " Anal sex does not cause any of those things. Bleeding, tears, trauma, rips, anal fissures, loss of anal sphincter tone is when it's prepared poorly or is too rough. Infections, STDs are when it's unsafe, which ALSO applies to heterosexual sex. Gay bowel syndrom is a myth. "All those homosexual animals you mentioned do not know better, or not smart and not intelligent." Sex is not about being smart or intelligent. " HUMANS are the most INTELLIGENT animals on planet earth. " No they're not. We contaminate, discriminate and elect toxic people to run entire countries. I don't call that being intelligent compared to other animals which do not do that. "HOMOSEXUALITY ALWAYS GIES AGAINST NATURAL LAW, biology, physiology, anatomy, histology AND the LAWS OF NATURE." There is no such thing as "natural law" ; homosexuality exists in nature ; it doesn't go against biology, physiology, anatomy or histology (whatever that is). "CASE CLOSED. " You do not decide that. "Two men, two sperm, two eggs, two women, AND SELF-sterilized transgrnder people CAN NOT MAKE BABIES. " Irrelevant. Menopaused women can't have babies, that's not why menopause is wrong. "The laws of nature state "You must have two people of the opposite sex to make babies." " Nature disagrees, starting by parthenogenesis among certain species. And nature did not state any of that until you bring a record of it stating that. "You Cant make a baby in the anus, rectum or digestive tract." Irrelevant. Sex is about pleasure. "Sex change surgery means you are still a real man or woman." No, it means trans men are men and trans women are women. "An inverted penis is not a vagina." IRRELEVANT. It's the identity gender that prevails. @LifeLiberty-rn6bq "Nature created sex for the sole purpose of creating babies" No, it's for PLEASURE. "Transgender is another dead-end and not natural for humans." It's not a dead-end and it is natural. Once again, trans people are not sterile. "If homosexuality and transgender was genetic, then all that would have disappeared by now." There is such thing as recessive genes, and procreation by homosexuals. "Therefore gay couples can't pass on their gay genes to their gay offspring." Just because they're gay doesn't mean their offsprings will be. "LGBTQIA are all sexual behaviors and social constructs, NOT genetic and not NATURAL." They are NATURAL, not social constructs or mere behavior, and it doesn't even need to be genetic.
@pandalilpig
@pandalilpig 6 ай бұрын
There are 5 definitions of love. You can love without sex
@hongjoongsincrediblelooksa9686
@hongjoongsincrediblelooksa9686 6 ай бұрын
the whole point of this lecture is that yes, you can, but there is no reason why you should.
@cypher1233
@cypher1233 3 жыл бұрын
> Video upload date: Jul 9, 2013 > Video recommendation date: July 23, 2020 Ok KZfaq. But in all seriousness, I really like this video
@dolphinswilltakeover
@dolphinswilltakeover 6 жыл бұрын
Guy talking: “Sometimes I fantasize about pulling out a sword and chopping off their ear” Me: We are the same soul in different physical being
@gilbertomartinez9465
@gilbertomartinez9465 4 жыл бұрын
Pulling out a sword I've felt that
@cloud1873
@cloud1873 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@dixieblonde2208
@dixieblonde2208 4 жыл бұрын
It feels like sword when you are having butt buggering,so I have been told ,from the gay guys mouth to my ear
@Plant_Parenthood
@Plant_Parenthood 4 жыл бұрын
@@dixieblonde2208 cool fact, buddy! 🌟
@fumarate1
@fumarate1 4 жыл бұрын
And then Jesus came along and healed it.
@Bobby-kp6ln
@Bobby-kp6ln 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your information and understanding. Very helpful❤
@michaelsharpe1810
@michaelsharpe1810 7 ай бұрын
I truly enjoyed your lecture. A fantastic and meaningful one. I stand with you.
@lesediskhosana1658
@lesediskhosana1658 4 жыл бұрын
This video is almost 7 years old and I only got it recommended now
@yassineyl6050
@yassineyl6050 4 жыл бұрын
I wish i have seen this a longtime ago, would help me a lot to get to accept my identity. its kind of therapeutic.
@fardareismai4495
@fardareismai4495 4 жыл бұрын
You're right, this is one of the most eloquent speeches on the topic. I hope you can accept yourself now, you're worth living your truth.
@fardareismai4495
@fardareismai4495 4 жыл бұрын
@@arijanitrexhepi2215 dude, stop being toxic!
@fardareismai4495
@fardareismai4495 4 жыл бұрын
@@brad8448 it's literally science! Stop being ignorant and update your religion to the 21st century. Humans and society evolve, we're not stuck in the dark ages anymore.
@brad8448
@brad8448 4 жыл бұрын
@@fardareismai4495 Science doesn't determine morality God does. Read his holy word. Study History. Rome fell, Greece fell, they collapsed because their morals collapsed. Homosexuality and transgenderism are just signs that this society is declining. But there is Hope in Christ who will prevail on this Earth. Trust him.
@fardareismai4495
@fardareismai4495 4 жыл бұрын
@@brad8448 knowledge, compassion and common sense determine morality. I do not accept a reformer of the Jewish religion as my divine saviour, he was not. This kind of mentality discourages critical thought and personal freedom, making people into sheep without a mind of their own. There's nothing wrong with religion, but as soon as you start vilifying other people's identities, preferences and way of loving, I lose all respect for you and the way you use religion. People outside of the cisheteronormative standard just means that our laws are becoming more just, our respect for individuals is growing and we are able to cope with diversity better, which is vital to society. So no, I won't trust a glorified preacher, sorry.
@teralmiles
@teralmiles 6 ай бұрын
What other gay person shed a tear when he told the story of his mother in the restaurant?
@Vaakoh1
@Vaakoh1 7 ай бұрын
This is exceptionally good!
@speedy7040
@speedy7040 8 жыл бұрын
I don't have any gay friends .I just haven't meet any. And then I found out there is a certain procentage in every population that it is gay.And I did the math, ant it shows I probably have a friend or two who is gay, but he/she is hidding that . And that just ...sad ...imagine the pain of living a duble life , not really alow yourself to be who you are , even among friends...That's a FRIEND of mine, someone I care about, someone I want to be happy.. That's why gay ppl should be open about it.Because maybe that friend that I do not know that is gay would gather some courage to be who he is, if he sees other doing it , and improve her/his life in this way.
@przemisio1
@przemisio1 8 жыл бұрын
thank you for this comment :)
@mp-uy9sv
@mp-uy9sv 8 жыл бұрын
+jenn brown Very true
@namelessrose3859
@namelessrose3859 7 жыл бұрын
spoken like a true worthless Christian.......
@mp-uy9sv
@mp-uy9sv 7 жыл бұрын
Rolie Ester worthless ? that's a bit harsh. have you studied religion to know on what grounds they hold their views about homosexuality & morals ? of have you just jumped onto the senseless name calling bandwagon , without understanding. And just believe the common progay stance that this unlearned man John Corvino claims to know about the bible?
@namelessrose3859
@namelessrose3859 7 жыл бұрын
I have studied religions in the best Universities to tell you well enough "YOU" and most religious "FREAKS" don't know or have the slightest clue what "YOU" think you know. You read the bible in "Literal" form making "you" and people like you "very" dangerous religious/christian persons. The original scripts were not written in literal form which is why only the scribes, Rabbi's or priests read them. They were not made to the public because they were difficult to understand. They were written in poetic form. The bible was a very dangerous book then as it is even more dangerous today. Even more so today. In ancient times god was so subdivided by over 400 gods. Today-LMAO Christianity and other religions (non-Christians) have subdivided god even more. God is like an oak tree only with "NO" true name. Calling god -god is like calling a dog...... a dog. There are only 3 types of "Christians" in this world we live in today. 1) the "TRUE" Christian- found in every 1 out of 750,000 people. They "actually" live out their lives Christ like. And you don't need a bible to do that. Simple common sense instead of "STUPIDITY, GREED AND HATE"! In the bible when Christ spoke his last words on the cross or tree.. so many different stories: they were "LOVE EACH OTHER THE WAY I HAVE LOVED YOU"! There were "NO"exceptions or buts in the statement. Except for the KJV of the bible. Which is not even a bible It's a book of rules written by King James I and edited by Sir Francis Bacon. So technically Sir Francis Bacon wrote the KJV and also wrote and corrected Shakespeare's plays. King James, lousy man, lousy ruler like some of our US presidents who had to go to war who simply wanted nothing more than to leave a legacy behind. They left nothing more than chaos and corruption. Though I have to say the corruption began with the Egyptians which encouraged all religions thereafter. Every religion beginning with what you know "the Jewish Religion" was nothing more than a copy cat religion from the Egyptians. What people don't know is the Egyptians did not set religion itself. They also were a copy cat religion. Religion holds no grounds on homosexuality, morals, (especially morals) so don't go there with me. That indeed was a stupid remark. Man wrote the bible and it was most certainly "NOT" inspired by god. When you pick up your bible, also have a history book next to you and reference them against each other. You don't actually need a history book if you live say in America. Most people here have what are called "COMPUTERS" The Church (people and religion) have spilled more blood in the history of man kind than any other man known to man... In just a very short period of time. So the three types of Christians. 1) the TRUE Christian- found in every 1 out of 750,000 people. I've already explained that above. 2) Fundamentalists groups - (Terrorist groups) - Christians/Christianity and other forms of religious groups. Non the less, TERORISTS! They will kill at will, by the use of guns, or other forms of weaponry, burn you alive, drown you, drag you behind a truck for a few miles till your dead, etc. You don't need someone/terrorist from some other country to do your dirty work, it's all done by the hands of.. yes, people who claim to be Christians or very close to god. and 3) Conservative Christians/Christianity- and other form of Christian groups - also known as Christian TERRORISM. The conservative Christian will kill you very, very slowly. Not by they're own hands. They are a bit smarter. They are rarely caught or persecuted. They shame others (the one's they also do not care for, you know "HATE")into suicide. So both Christian and religious folk that fall under #'s2 and 3 both end up in the fiery pit they call or refer to as "HELL". Christians/Religious- all Terrorists/Cults. ( Christians preach that only GOD has the power to give life and to take it. Then tell me something smart ass.... What the fuck are Christians doing killing so fucking much? There are the 7 deadly sins according to the bible. Sins so dark that darken the soul there is no forgiveness for. Under the subdivision of one of those sins is: the killing/stripping/stealing of another person's soul that belongs to god. You fuckers do it all the time, everyday. After killing someone or shaming them into suicide, you may hide for a few days, then right back to your church buildings yelling, screaming your halleluiah's until you falsely fall into seizures on the floor. What fucking hypocrites. Worshiping and preying like the thieves you are. When someone takes a life by shaming them into suicide that is also a grave sin. god has no mercy on Christians or religious terrorist groups # 2-3. They are nothing more than Satan's hive workers. god has more mercy on the bullied and persecuted than the BULLY and the PERSECUTER!!!!!!! So, what type of Christian are you? Since you claim to know sooooooooooooooo much about religion and your bible?
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