John Kirwan on whether the new Springbok style could ruin the Rugby world Cup experience for fans

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2 жыл бұрын

The crew from Sky Sport NZ's The Breakdown chat through all the action from the first test between the All Blacks and Springboks in the Rugby Championship.
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@roelofvanhelsdingen9641 2 жыл бұрын

Its amazing how New Zealanders seem to think that rugby has to be played on their terms. None of the tactics they are crying about is illegal. In fact they are all very much in line with the rules of the game. Stop concerning yourself with the Springboks game and style of play, no amount of unsolicited advice is going to stop them from executing their game on the day.

@moziboy75 2 жыл бұрын

True you are right, they will play their game at the end of the day but their kicking the ball away needlessly was frustrating to watch. All said and done both Kiwis and Safas are very opinionated...it is what keeps us respecting each other and our teams.

@joaquinjoaquin3992 2 жыл бұрын

Its about loosing people on the grades and back home watching tv. Rubbish sports dont like to nobody, thats the problem.

@EthanGordon007 2 жыл бұрын

@@moziboy75 ITS TIME FOR J.K. TO ACCEPT THAT

@atholgreen59 2 жыл бұрын

Just about says it all.

@isaacstocking7746 2 жыл бұрын

Actually yes they are time wasting is illegal

@charlconradie7245 2 жыл бұрын

We don’t play to entertain you….we play to win.

@Trajan2401 Жыл бұрын

God help rugby if SA dominate lol

@angelicalulu9853 Жыл бұрын

@@Trajan2401 You're *very* weird for this comment

@liverpunch Жыл бұрын

It was entertaining to everyone else except NZ!

@nathiSTEFF Жыл бұрын

Thank you🇿🇦🔥🔥

@kasinova90 Жыл бұрын

Simple!

@Jordan-ws6jy 2 жыл бұрын

JK criticising the boks style but he's rocking a hoodie under a blazer 👀😂😂

@user-yw8ek4dj5v 2 жыл бұрын

honestly I love the don't give a shit attitude about that haha

@happychappy7115 2 жыл бұрын

not a good look for a pensioner

@Headhunter_212 2 жыл бұрын

We need to find the one person who told him that’s a good look. Eesh, pick one lane, FFS.

@AMS-1 2 жыл бұрын

That got my immediate attention 😂

@pohara68urupa98 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@dang1810 2 жыл бұрын

The Boks are obviously doing the right thing if these boys aren't liking it. Just saying.

@FraserHealVideo 2 жыл бұрын

I would've thought the right thing is to play entertaining rugby and win games?

@tawerapetera9327 2 жыл бұрын

Springboks can beat the All Blacks with entertaining rugby.. they just need a new coach.

@douglyons2678 2 жыл бұрын

The only real justification for playing this style of rugby is winning. Going 0-4 against their chief rivals is abject failure.

@Clutchtheclownz 2 жыл бұрын

We don't need entertaining rugby to beat them clearly

@jonathandavis8599 2 жыл бұрын

@@douglyons2678 0-4 what are you smoking? They won today, lost last week and the the one in the WC, drew in 2019, lost in PTA and won in Wellington. Google is your friend

@Porkchop259 2 жыл бұрын

I keep forgetting all teams should do exactly as the All Blacks want them to do.

@interestedbystander196 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, rather silly of you to overlook that. 🥸

@russellturner1909 2 жыл бұрын

Now you know

@affiliateclimbmax9287 2 жыл бұрын

And never tackle Dan Carter

@president6645 Жыл бұрын

@@affiliateclimbmax9287 yes will get a yellow card for that 😆

@christiaanuys2443 Жыл бұрын

O boy...think of test cricket. It's not exciting, it's a chess match to exploit weaknesses. Purpose of the game...win!

@ClintonEastland 2 жыл бұрын

When South Africa went through a difficult period and getting whipped by the All Blacks, seemingly the rest of the world seemed less vocal about the Springboks' misfortunes. Fast forward two to three years later and suddenly EVERYONE is jumping on the wagon bashing them. England not too long ago played a similar style that brought them a lot of success that culminated in 2003 RWC. Now I'm not excusing the team's performances in the RC thus far and it certainly isn't ideal, but there's a lot to do going forward with this team and how they can get better. The Springboks WILL get better with time. This nonsense of laying the future of rugby at the feet of South Africa must stop. World Rugby should take responsibility for that.

@jpfowlds5921 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you finally someone with common sense. No one cared how the boks played when we lost 57-0 to the all blacks. And back then we were trying to play like the all blacks. Now we play the way south africa traditionally play and everyone cares now.

@ClintonEastland 2 жыл бұрын

What World Rugby wants is to turn rugby union into rugby league it seems. Let's get rid of everything that makes union a true contest such as rucks, mauls, line-outs, kicking and scrums. Let's rather turn it into a bore show of players just running at each other. Let's forget about playing styles and tactics or even strengths. Let everyone just run so the rest of the world can stay in awe of the All Blacks since nobody dares try playing their own style of rugby that leads to success because that's not what world rugby wants.

@dude9318 2 жыл бұрын

I agree well said

@dude9318 2 жыл бұрын

@Go on have some its really not a bad team its the same squad that won the world cup and won against the British and Irish lions.

@westsideAUKILANI 2 жыл бұрын

@Go on have some why you so mad tho

@westsideAUKILANI 2 жыл бұрын

We need to stop focusing on what the Boks are doing and look at fixing those mistakes we made.

@Azza662 2 жыл бұрын

We have to adapt and change our tactics. It will be a different story this weekend.

@baileygilbert4766 2 жыл бұрын

I agreed with you, We need to worry about our own game first before we worry about anyone else game.

@happychappy7115 2 жыл бұрын

@@baileygilbert4766 Agreed. Stop fluffing passes and dropping the ball would be nice. Jeez at this level its totally unacceptable.

@gainzbro1328 2 жыл бұрын

@@happychappy7115 it's not due to a lack of skill. Yes we dropped alot of ball but that's because we we're under such pressure. We weren't dropping balls like that vs wallabies or pumas

@aqilmahat9482 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. No matter how boring or how unpleasent the tactics, if it can win the game, any coach would apply it. The AB need to accept the fact that teams will do anything to win the game.

@boerieroll 2 жыл бұрын

JK I'm so disappointed I was an 18 year old when Springboks came back into the international fold and as a South african teenager looked up to you and Campo as the best of the best I just expect better from you. Rugby is a chess match both teams play by the same rules how they play is their business may the best team win. ALL BLACK VS BOK rivalry is the greatest in rugby history long may it continue. So much respect for each other from the players would be great to see the media show the same respect.

@EthanGordon007 2 жыл бұрын

JOHN KIRWAN. SHOW SOME GODDAMN RESPECT FOR ONCE.

@interestedbystander196 2 жыл бұрын

And dress like a grown-up, for goodness sake!

@interestedbystander196 2 жыл бұрын

@Russell Turner Do you disagree, though? No? Sad...

@interestedbystander196 2 жыл бұрын

@Russell Turner A man in his mid fifties wearing a hoodie under a suit jacket? Come on! Anyway, I know you do agree with me (like a sensible person), and you're just stirring shit. It was almost a good one...

@interestedbystander196 2 жыл бұрын

@Russell Turner How did you know?! 👰

@timtalbot9985 2 жыл бұрын

How’s about some respect for the Boks

@victoryranapia7377 2 жыл бұрын

The springboks deserved there win!!! Our rivalry will always be with South Africa!!!…. We don’t call yous our old foe for nothing!!!

@johnsessums9485 2 жыл бұрын

Love the Springboks. We don’t have rugby here in the states. Enjoy watching Faf de Klerk because he plays with an attitude, Eben Etzebeth because he doesn’t put up with any disrespect, Siya Kolisi because he is the heart of the team, etc… looking forward to seeing more games and hope to be able to see a game in person in the future. Go Springboks!!

@mariozaayman2868 2 жыл бұрын

Tnx for surporting Boks

@AM-dj1wr 2 жыл бұрын

Bro the America eagles... You do have a 15 and 7 man side

@Trajan2401 Жыл бұрын

Yes you do MLR

@johnsessums9485 Жыл бұрын

@@Trajan2401 my mistake. Have never seen a game on television and to my knowledge no team close to me

@angelicalulu9853 Жыл бұрын

@@johnsessums9485 don't worry about those American teams. You are home here with the Boks 😂🤗

@RACAROO 2 жыл бұрын

Always good to answer your critics with a fantastic win…😂

@tiaancloete5133 2 жыл бұрын

Watching this after our "boring rugby" put one over you boys today by actually not playing boring ruby at all...

@jdjordaan9943 2 жыл бұрын

Boks looked so much more like 2019 bokke yesterday... loved it

@bensenzo 2 жыл бұрын

And the all blacks have actually kicked more than the boks. But ofcourse that fact doesn't fit their narratives

@WhatTheFunK. 2 жыл бұрын

It’s amazing what idiots can get the commentary jobs these days, is this all you can produce NZ

@tiaancloete5133 2 жыл бұрын

@@bensenzo i noticed that as well they also tried to use the maul a few times a move they are very much against.

@bensenzo 2 жыл бұрын

@Russell Turner why should I shut up?

@johnletsela6263 Жыл бұрын

The Bok plan is working wonders we are definitely entertained when watching the Springboks they are world champions 🏆 for a Reason

@iandenner9557 Жыл бұрын

The more I listen to JK the more I'm losing respect for him... Ireland trounced them playing basically the same style of rugby, England beat Australia playing basically the same same style, even when Argentina beat them it was with big forwards and kicking! But the moment the AB's don't have it all their way the Springboks are bringing the quality of world rugby down. I'm fed up with these ex players in their ivory towers who keep forgetting that in their day they had a Grant Fox who kicked just as much as modern players. And suddenly JK thinks of himself as a custodian of how rugby should be played?

@user-wn7pb1vc3u 6 ай бұрын

His points are correct, though. It’s winning rugby but it is not exciting to watch.

@NormGillo 2 жыл бұрын

Hey John, the looked great to me!!! 4 months since they were last home and guess what the first rugby style to beat ABs in a while! Victory always looks!!

@luchiboy 2 жыл бұрын

I like Ruby as part of the panel. She's quite charismatic and she has a great rugby IQ. A fresh face to a sometimes bland panel.

@lobomorunga1 2 жыл бұрын

Ruby looks as good with a mic as she is with a football. Go, Ruby

@IwasInThe60s 2 жыл бұрын

She is so intelligent and knowledgeable about rugby. I wish I could adopt her!

@christophercarson6634 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm, plenty of men to commentate on mens rugby, she should stick to the lasses game.

@westsideAUKILANI 2 жыл бұрын

@@christophercarson6634 Typical Northern hemisphere

@OscarOSullivan 19 күн бұрын

@@westsideAUKILANIA large amount of the Irish rugby union pundits are women

@dantewalters5209 2 жыл бұрын

Everything the Boks are doing are within the rules of the game. We have different strengths to that of the All Blacks. Why didn't the All Blacks dazzle the crowd with running rugby? I'll tell you why. They weren't given space to just run around and score 5/6 tries. They were met by strong, resolute defence and even dominated in the tackle. The Bok forwards were superior, as they often are and that makes it difficult to get go forward and momentum. Kirwan would love for the Boks to play the run at all cost game and gift them 3 intercept tries in the name of more attractive rugby. The popularity of rugby in SA has grown immensely. We understand the game and we understand our strengths. If Kirwan found a game that was decided in the last three minutes, boring, We'll then, he doesn't understand rugby afterall.

@stevenbissett 2 жыл бұрын

Kirwin understands what Kiwis want to see.

@kaynestrickland3587 2 жыл бұрын

it was boring you sook lolz winning just by forwards wont win rugby is a team sport and at the end of the day you cant beat the all blacks when they making basic errors you wont beat them when there better

@dantewalters5209 2 жыл бұрын

@@kaynestrickland3587 well, we could have won and we have recently. It was extremely close. What would you have said had Barrett missed that kick? It's only exciting to you when you can run around and score tries at will, Well we don't allow that. You guys don't like competition.

@armandtoma8124 2 жыл бұрын

"A philosophical answer" - are the AB's still rugby players or are they now warrior poets!? It's also not attractive watching the AB's coming in from the side at almost every ruck. Unfortunately, they need to fix their OWN set-piece and EARN THE RIGHT to run the ball. Not through manipulating the ref calls. So get your own house in order, and keep your own nose clean, before you criticize this Bok team that leaves BLOOD and GUTS on the field. They have been lashing every other team in the world, but don't like that we can challenge, rattle and BEAT them. We KNOW they want to run the ball and find broken play ... that is their strength. Telling us to play to THEIR strengths is absolutely ridiculous - nonsense from JK, showing that he is out of touch.

@Vlerkies 2 жыл бұрын

Please don't play like this cause we have to work hard to beat you and move away from our safe space 🤣 Shampies, spot on Armand. They wanna play their way, we play ours, and the worlds collide making a great contest in the end, whoever comes out tops.

@malmotumotu5218 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!Play to your strength not play on their strength!

@loki_of_earth 2 жыл бұрын

yeah, sure, JK's "out of touch"...a bit of a silly comment. Think about it, his full-time job is being a Rugby pundit. He watches analyses and comments on rugby ALL the time. Regardless, it was just his opinion and I bet he echoes most neutrals thoughts. For the majority, attacking rugby is generally more entertaining than defensive. And yes, SA has beaten them once in this Championship, they also beat SA once. They played 6 won 5, SA played 6 won 3.

@armandtoma8124 2 жыл бұрын

Is it not "out of touch" then - is it simply arrogance to expect that the game should be played within the limits you set? As far as I can see, they play within the law (as much as any team does) and have scored PLENTY of tries against both the All Blacks and others. If that's his opinion, well then this is mine - I think NZ love sitting pretty at the top, and don't like it when they get beaten. I think alot of the comments from them are criticisms against us (or indeed sometimes other countries) whereas it is seldom that South African commentators/pundits are so harshly critical about our opponents. Needlessly so, in my opinion. So yes, it feels good to put one over on him. Even if it is only 1-1. And I think your stats lesson is just proving my point even more - which is that, being an incredibly successful team, the AB's don't like that South Africa have the ability to beat them. Sure, the stats aren't in our favour, but I'm sure they're better than any other nation's stats against New Zealand. So yes, we have alot of areas to improve in, we need to increase our squads' depth, we have challenges to our provincial sides but for now, we are going to savour this latest result, whether JK thinks our style of play was acceptable or not. Philosophically speaking, of course.

@malmotumotu5218 2 жыл бұрын

@@armandtoma8124 very true

@douglasreed007 2 жыл бұрын

JK, interested hear your opinion on slowing the game down with fake injuries etc? Thought by now you would have learned not to write off the Boks at every turn.

@johnfourie8071 2 жыл бұрын

Excuses, excuses, excuses. Look at the score board

@EthanGordon007 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnfourie8071 THE ART OF DEFENSE WILL ALWAYS BEAT THE ART OF ATTACK. POINT PROVEN. SILENCE YOURSELF IMMEDIATELY JOHN.KIRWAN... (MR KNOW IT ALL)

@stevenbennett9756 2 жыл бұрын

Strange he chose to criticize it and then the ABs did exactly the same thing, but on steroids

@douglasreed007 2 жыл бұрын

@@stevenbennett9756 yes but this time it was smart rugby, the best way to shut them up is just win.

@stevemclean4592 2 жыл бұрын

@@EthanGordon007 Yes we saw how that worked against the wallabies 🤣

@hencoharmse8757 2 жыл бұрын

Fiji and Australia ran at the ABs and got hammered. NZ exploit breakdown loopholes to gain counterattack ball from which they score against ambitious teams. Another way of looking at it is it's the ABs indirectly killing running rugby.

@jaydonsegurasanchez6523 2 жыл бұрын

Now we won , all your criticism fed us today thanks

@rhyswilliams4006 2 жыл бұрын

Keep writing us off, we LOVE it!

@martinbisschoff988 8 ай бұрын

Yep mate!! Some folks are "slow" learners....😆😄

@Sanduriah 2 жыл бұрын

All blacks better step it up! cause man that was a close one 😅 Springboks brought that rivalry back into this game! may the best team win next weekend! 🔥 🇿🇦 🇳🇿

@shaun-douglasmasango325 2 жыл бұрын

Well said...😏 Go bokke!🇿🇦

@pohara68urupa98 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. AB’s were dam lucky. Respect to you SA. Great team and have been for 100 years.

@Sanduriah 2 жыл бұрын

damn we lost! 😆 well done springboks!! The better team won!! 🔥 soo gutted! But hey abs can’t win them all! the Springboks truely are the all blacks number one foe!

@MrBonolo 2 жыл бұрын

Bokke won like the champions they are

@Sanduriah 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrBonolo they sure did fair play to South Africa they deserved their win!

@robheymann8466 2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully we entertained you all with that win tonight 😉

@stevemclean4592 2 жыл бұрын

What a great game it was from an Aussie however I don't think you can be happy with 1 good game out of 4

@smoothoperator1862 2 жыл бұрын

Was great watching you kick penalties all day 👍🏽

@jacquie212 2 жыл бұрын

@@stevemclean4592 while I don't disagree, after them lions tour, Argentina games, 2 weeks further quarantine, all requiring bio bubbles, I am happy with the the last 2 games. I can only imagine how difficult it was for the players to pick themselves up for the Australia games. Losing due to combination of apathy, exhaustion vs an Australian team that found their missing ingredient with Coops is not a cause for concern. Not saying Boks would have won both games vs Aus, but probably the first. Separate note, Australia rugby has made it hard to hate you guys recently you sucked so hard. Glad you guys are back.

@Wolfsong27FlyHalfFullHeart 2 жыл бұрын

@@smoothoperator1862 Here’s an easy suggestion…stop conceding then?

@smoothoperator1862 2 жыл бұрын

@@prudeuncle lol beat Australia before you start talking 🤣

@kelvinpenney7431 2 жыл бұрын

Im pretty impressed with Ruby Tui's astute and insightful observations on the state of the game and how it's played. No offence to any other panel members, but Tui's as good and as engaging to listen to as, Keith Quinn, Phil Gifford and their ilk, whom I've enjiyed listening to for the past 40 years

@Dilmahkana 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Ruby Tui was great here

@pohara68urupa98 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Sorry to say, but she’s much better than Millsy who often rambles. Hope she becomes a more permanent fixture.

@GRIMMY106 2 жыл бұрын

The most boring game for me is when the score board is like 50 - 7 or a 100-0 I normally switch of the TV when it's like 20-0.

@lobomorunga1 2 жыл бұрын

how would you know, unless you watched the whole game?

@sunlightliquid8420 2 жыл бұрын

South africa has come back from a 22-0 game why would you turn off?

@mikespencer4922 Жыл бұрын

I agree. A runaway game is boring.

@Trajan2401 Жыл бұрын

@@lobomorunga1 ,hahaha snapped

@Trajan2401 Жыл бұрын

@@mikespencer4922 ,that's not their fault the opposition is weak they can't help that but SA can change their boring style nothing's stopping them from doing that

@Mobilewarrior1 2 жыл бұрын

Love to hear kirwans comments after ABs loss yesterday.. Bring it on big man..

@rhyswilliams4006 2 жыл бұрын

such a doooooooos

@izakbisschoff8712 2 жыл бұрын

John Kirwan, you make me laugh. We all know that you've have never showed the Boks any respect. South Africans are looking forward to play in the Northern Hemisphere. The best team in the world (?) will soon find themselves isolated. They can then revel in playing the Aussies every second weekend.

@joelego5767 2 жыл бұрын

The "best" team in the world is overrated. We will definitely thrash them again!

@EthanGordon007 2 жыл бұрын

@@joelego5767 ACTUALLY UNDERRATED. NO1 BELIEVES WE ARE THE BEST, EXCEPT THE AFRICANS. THATS WHAT MAKES US CHAMPIONS. OUR MENTALITY

@antonpotgieter2710 2 жыл бұрын

Is John Kirwan moaning about the Springboks again?

@bradleycooper1609 2 жыл бұрын

He's right mate the springboks have some great backs let them play 10 man rugby went out of style in the amateur days Fan's want to see entertaining rugby they pay good money to watch or view on TV I steady Eddie played like that in the 6 nation's last season we were rubbish 🏉🏉🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🤔

@frankvandermerwe1487 2 жыл бұрын

@Go on have some How about this: we play to our strengths, you play to yours and let's STFU and enjoy the rugby, how about that?

@johnnymotshidi 2 жыл бұрын

First is was our bomb squad that had the likes of him moaning and now it is our brand of rugby. People will always have something to say about the Bokke. All antagonists without substance. Can you imagine an Impala inviting and Elaphant to rugby and asking the elephant NOT to use it's strength but run with the ball instead? It is ridiculous! It would all but make the Impala look better than it actually is. AB's are not all that great. They got exposed this weekend. So instead of fixing themselves, they moan and whine about how boring our Boks are. Everybody should just play THEIR brand of rugby and employ whatever suits their team. End of story.

@dude9318 2 жыл бұрын

@Go on have some a little bit of overreacting but i get his points

@joshtipene3463 2 жыл бұрын

@@dude9318 Springboks supporter posted a video whinging about Quade Cooper wasting 30s for the winning kick with no time left on the clock........overreacting you say? Only laws matter now not the spirit of how the game is played..........Ok got yah

@jaycordner3890 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂 Last laugh is on you guys.... what happened today?

@qaphelandabankulu3864 2 жыл бұрын

As a South African, I appreciate how constructive this panel is in their criticism.

@ndumisodatini3373 2 жыл бұрын

They are NOT they worried about how we play that we will beat them now they trying to drag us to play like them so that they can tear us apart and now the way we play it makes it so difficult for them to beat us.

@bunnychowmuncher 2 жыл бұрын

Not really. When Beauden Barrit was caught moving the ball forward a few metres forward a few years back for a penalty this same crew never tore him apart on Monday for bringing the game into disrepute - in fact it was considered smart. John Kirwan carried on about The Boks gamesmanship on Saturday but has never questioned Sean Fitzpatrick who was the king of doing it weekly. When we complained about that we were laughed at and told to suck it up. Just saying.

@tearohadiamond8530 2 жыл бұрын

@@bunnychowmuncher JK has got it wrong on this occasion, the box kick is a great tactic that the Boks have mastered, the only issue i had was when they had an opportunity to run or hold onto the ball and run the clock down, they didn't.

@bunnychowmuncher 2 жыл бұрын

@@tearohadiamond8530 Sometimes in the heat of the moment we can do stupid thing. You often see it in golf where players will go for a Par 5 in two and they put it in the water hazard when they could have laid up or vice versa with being conservative when they could have got an eagle. It happens.

@thefobbieii2888 2 жыл бұрын

@@tearohadiamond8530 - exactly in other words when the Springboks box kick their opponent has GOT to catch the ball then you have to get numbers on the tackle ball or they well turn you over! When the Boks got their target length right in the 2nd half look at the amount of time the ABs failed to take the ball in the air and how many times did their chaser beat Jordie Barrett to the landing zone with more traffic - it put us extreme pressure! The Boks controlled the lineouts forcing the ABs only option is to throw it to the front because anything that went to the back got picked off! Then from set pieces Barrett was throwing face ball passes on a umbrella rush defence and we got caught and made errors on the apex of that umbrella defence! How many times did we conceive turnover possession at the tackle ball and the errors! Here is the main issue - we still have not been able to counter the rush umbrella defence by the Boks!!!! Why are these NOT the main talking points! In regards to the Boks tactics slowing the game down - guess what they got away with it because the referee allowed it! I remember speaking to a ex-All Black trialist in 1987 and he told me that the best players are the ones who are able to play to the referee! There is no point in us going off at the referee about it - yes she is correct in her analysis but the point is how are the ABs going to counter this if the referee allows it? I thought Savea could have put more pressure on the referee but even then if the referee is not going to listen - what do you do? I agree with you that the Boks need to look at that attacking zone 30m out from the opponent goal-line! Yes its a great option to have with up & unders but if they could vary their play with some attacking with ball in hand as well posing problems for defences because it then puts the defence in 2 minds - are they going to kick or attack with ball in hand!

@takeapicproduction6413 2 жыл бұрын

The Springboks kicking game works for us. Everyone thought the ABs would hammer us. But that was not to be. A tight 2 point game.

@JohnDoe-tc5bc 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but use are world champs so use should of won

@RioGamer 2 жыл бұрын

1st Australian game was a 2 point game. And their next game was a blow away after they figured the boks out

@joshtipene3463 2 жыл бұрын

What matters most is the competitiveness on the field, then the comradery and respect of the players shown after the game. What gets said in youtube comment is irrelevant but we should show same respect.

@Trajan2401 2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-tc5bc ,pretenders hahaha they have looked anything but world champions and will most likely finish third unworthy of that title

@Trajan2401 2 жыл бұрын

But you lost to a B side playing bad so it didn't work for you and it rarely works for you against the ABs

@mickeyt1371 2 жыл бұрын

Considering the Boks have played so little rugby these past two years , coupled with CV19, I believe the Boks are playing a style of rugby merely to survive and stay relevant until they get enough game time under their belts.

@markbrown-sb2zm Жыл бұрын

good point.They have had a year less than everyone else and a choka block itiniery with the lions,played completely rusty.There hasnt been time to develop their game plan till the end of 22.

@renewablefuelsanalyst8263 9 ай бұрын

well this aged like milk in the desert!

@SNOK1986 6 ай бұрын

Watching this 2 years later as a South African 🏆😎🍷

@myroseaccount Жыл бұрын

Springbok line speed was all over the All Blacks. They have huge physicality and won the collisions and have outstanding backs that match the power and running of the All Black backline. The Boks after many years are starting to get it right again and hit their straps. Which as an Englishman is great to see. The dominance the All Blacks have had since 2010 is over. Springboks keep it simple. If you can beat them with finesse then great well done. We'll all applaud. But you have to match them up front and in the collisions. That is just the way the Boks play and long may that continue. They've crushed England several times, twice in the World Cup final even after an excellent England performance put the All Blacks to the sword in the last World Cup. I thought the All Blacks might have beat the Boks had you won that Semi Final. I now think you might have gone down by a larger margin than they crushed England Rest of the world needs to step up like the Irish. It is also great to see the French starting to find their old menace and allure and ability to crush anyone anywhere on any day. There are areas of the game that need attention and the scrum is one of them although the game yesterday had lots of solid scrummages and real competition. The IRB need to get things right but if even Scotland now have a competitive side we could be in for a golden era of international Rugby and that is always the most important for me. The All Blacks are fine. You've come up against an excellent French and the best Irish team ever and you're struggling in South Africa. That's not a crisis it is just Rugby. You'll be fine. I still put you second or third favourites for the World Cup next year

@martinbisschoff988 8 ай бұрын

Respect to you from a Bok supporter. Someone willing to state the obvious. How life works and as a sportsman be prepared to "take it on the chin" on a bad day. The wheel always turns and yes, the game is in an excellent place at the moment. Agree totally.

@tommybrown9378 2 жыл бұрын

The Springboks have hardly been able to play together in 2 years. They have not been able to change their game plan especially with a new coach and at the end of the day it's about winning games.

@rivenwizz 2 жыл бұрын

Most other teams used to complain about McCaw's cheating at the breakdown although technically he just knew how much to push depending on who was reffing. Stop moaning and figure out how to beat them like Australia seem to have

@rachelletobias7402 2 жыл бұрын

Jealousy gets you nowhere 😆

@coffeine1924 2 жыл бұрын

I honestly don't think it's that effective against the abs. They were gifted 7 points by George bridge and all blacks made so many handling errors when it was just ball in hand that kept them in the game. All blacks turned down easy points off penalties and were too slow in adjusting their lineout. Nevermind the fact that three of our best players in mounga, smith and whitelock arent playing.

@brettg4784 2 жыл бұрын

The handling errors and George Bridge error was caused by pressure. The style of play by all teams changes (some more than others) at the World Cups and is definitely built around defense. I stand corrected but the statistics in World cups show that the team who has less possession wins games ?

@coffeine1924 2 жыл бұрын

@@brettg4784 I disagree honeslty. The all blacks are known for their outstanding ball-handling skills and flat passes in tight spaces many of their drop balls came before the contact which was just uncharacteristic of a typical all blacks team. And bridge should catch that ball 99 times out of 100. An uncontested box kick to an all blacks winger with one chaser (who was really jogging) on the try line should never be droped cold the boks were extemely lucky to get that try and yet it was the only try they could generate.

@bobcougar77 2 жыл бұрын

I think that George Bridge drop was a fluke. He's drifting back to catch the high ball and it's moving on him. at the very last second he cleared the shadow of the stadium and probably couldn't see anything. As coffeine said, that was far from a high pressure situation like the rest of them were. But, at the same time that is the nature of the high ball. You can't predict that any one kick will succeed but statistically 3 of 10 will. So you keep chucking in shots on goal.

@brettg4784 2 жыл бұрын

@@coffeine1924 No certainly the AB's as have a general all round passing game, but dropping balls before contact can be from looking up to see what missile is coming to smash you. No doubt the ball was swirling but any kick is any as effective as its chasers ! Each team has there own strengths and the AB's and their supporters trying to get everyone to play a style like theirs when its not the strength of others is just a ploy to get them to try take them on at the AB's style

@Trajan2401 2 жыл бұрын

@@brettg4784 ,no they weren't SA were only responsible for some of the errors but the ABs were their own worst enemies with so many UNFORCED errors and SA try was not pressure at all Bridge just misjudged the catch he had all the time in the world no real pressure on him

@weskus 2 жыл бұрын

Why must the Boks play in your hands? We rather think that A B are scared of the way the Boks are playing.

@fido5067 2 жыл бұрын

Loved the way we rattled the all blacks, hated the lack of ambition with ball in hand.

@fomofud9479 2 жыл бұрын

Had the Boks won the game you probably wouldn't have cared.

@fido5067 2 жыл бұрын

@@fomofud9479 I would have, we need to be physical and box kick etc, but also able to use the backing and score tries, will be very dangerous and not one dimensional.

@fomofud9479 2 жыл бұрын

@@fido5067 hate to break it to you mate but the Boks have been one dimensional since 1891 and yet they have dominated for longer periods than even the AB's and been more successful at RWC's than any other side in the world including the AB's.

@fido5067 2 жыл бұрын

@@fomofud9479 this is true, we rarely have decent centre's or a fly half that can run a bit, our current centre's can play.a bit.and so they should.

@dirtysouth8906 2 жыл бұрын

@@fomofud9479 more successful than the ABs in the World Cup? ABs - first World Cup winners ABs - first to win 3 world cups ABs - first to win back to back world cups (2011-2015) But let’s remove the World Cup from the conversation. Boks longest win streak - 6 AB’s longest win streak - 8 I’m not gonna get too deep into facts but the stats speak for itself

@BruceWayne-dc4bf 2 жыл бұрын

hahahha this is priceless.... kiwis complaining how the boks are playing ... hilarious. The ABs are free to do with the ball as you please when you in possession of the ball so go score tries as you do run at the boks! The problem is the boks rattled you guys and the mistakes came ( in the form of handling errors ) Play your game guys and stop worrying about the boks, they playing to their strengths at the moment ( extremely unfit and average players from 12 -14 )

@RioGamer 2 жыл бұрын

The ABs played worst and still won. Dunno how they do it but they do it. Bokkes won only 1 out of the last 10 encounters

@jurodahgabriel1816 2 жыл бұрын

It's so ridiculous!

@BruceWayne-dc4bf 2 жыл бұрын

@@RioGamer think you need to go look at the results again. its: nz25-24rsa 2017 abs won nz34-36rsa springboks won nz32-30rsa abs won nz16-16rsa draw nz23-13rsa world cup abs won nz19-17rsa abs won nz29-31rsa 2021 springboks won 2 wins and a draw in the last 7, show me any other country that come this close this often to the all blacks avarage is 4/10 which is horrible but still much better than the rest of the tier one nations. the two 50 plus tests in 2016/17 has been erased from my memory and i refuse to talk about it. hahaha

@nobrainer5117 2 жыл бұрын

variety is the spice of life

@nepiahemopo1702 2 жыл бұрын

Well that's a no brainer.

@patrickharrison871 2 жыл бұрын

Well SA have no variety

@nepiahemopo1702 2 жыл бұрын

You have to admit tho, not many anticipated such a close score. As for variety, the Boks haven't quite put it together, yet. They may get beaten next week but they have a solid squad going forward. Including the Wallabies.

@nobrainer5117 2 жыл бұрын

@@nepiahemopo1702 touche brother

@dude9318 2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickharrison871 its chilled we won before with it

@grahamarthur 2 жыл бұрын

Funny, in yesterday’s game the ABs slowed the game down! Scott Barrett’s injury took an eternity to deal with. Can this please be acknowledged and can analysis of Boks please be balanced. It amazes me how everyone has got their panties in such a bunch 😎

@M0RR1S10 2 жыл бұрын

Id like to hear what they have to say after today

@arendsmith9527 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know why the Springboks are bothering the ABs so much. They beat them fair and square. They only play twice a year. They don’t compete in SuperRugby anymore. Jeff sounds like an ex girlfriend who is jealous because her ex boyfriend is dating a supermodel and just won the 2019 World Cup and beat the British Lions. Get over it.

@Don-ym8cm 2 жыл бұрын

@Go on have some.nah.

@stuartwhyman1 2 жыл бұрын

Fucking boooooring!

@Trajan2401 2 жыл бұрын

An easy route to the final of the RWC and you lost to NZ you beat an average stale Lions side JUST and then got hammered by Australia and lost to NZ again not very impressive at all.

@stuartwhyman1 2 жыл бұрын

@@Trajan2401 Yeah, a bit of a fake world champion really.

@Trajan2401 2 жыл бұрын

@@stuartwhyman1 ,definitely unworthy of the title they can't back it up like true champions do.

@homonaledi640 2 жыл бұрын

Everyone uses 'Springboks' to attract viewership these days

@johanzietsman4081 2 жыл бұрын

Must the boks be te only ones that must score try s i thought their was 2 teams in the game with more than 50% ball position so the game can only be boring if all play the same way

@wiremumatenga883 2 жыл бұрын

You're right mate. Boks and ABs figured each other out and kept on doing the same thing. ABs spread the ball wide, they get shut down boks turn the ball over. Boks make a break get up to the ABs half. Boks kick it away ABs recover the ball. Then repeat process until either team makes a mistake or it's full time. The ABs we're pulled into playing boks footy whether they liked it or not. This is why I think that the boks aren't going to change much. But that's the unpredictability the boks have in their arsenal. Use it fellow rivals ✌️ shake things up, what more is their to lose 🤷👍

@MG-ut7lq 2 жыл бұрын

facts

@bunnychowmuncher 2 жыл бұрын

Would you rather see 57-0 or would you rather see an arm wrestle? We tried an expansive game under Coetzee and it did not work. Some people have very short memories.

@mikedangerdoes 2 жыл бұрын

I mean, I think one team or another can dictate how the game is played though. The ABs can't run it out of their 22 every single time, they also have to play for territory and balance the kicks from hand as well, or else they end up pinned in their own half the whole game and are doing exactly what SA want them to do. The Boks can apply pressure in many ways to determine the way the game plays out, and if they want to grind out a game that's much easier than the ABs wanting to play free-flowing. Kind of a rock-paper-scissors equation, if you get my meaning.

@chrisbennett2648 2 жыл бұрын

Of course JK wants the Boks to change, he knows the ABs struggle if they don't

@dude9318 2 жыл бұрын

Obviously just because they dont like it doesn't mean it doesn't work

@tearohadiamond8530 2 жыл бұрын

I think JK is wrong, the high kick is a skill very well utilized by the Boks, but I think they need to be more balanced in their approach, knowing when to run with the ball and when to kick is a necessary part of the game, if Boks can find that balance, they will be the best in the world once again. ABs will adjust to the kick game and improve but regardless of that, I still think Boks can be the best with a balanced approach to their game.

@bremCZ 2 жыл бұрын

Not at all, because he wants them to change against everyone.

@Trajan2401 2 жыл бұрын

Struggling?,hahaha is that why SA have only beaten NZ 3 times in 11 years?,is that what you call struggling?,hahaha

@bremCZ 2 жыл бұрын

@@Trajan2401 Do you think they didn't struggle last week?

@toiletsmithy3630 2 жыл бұрын

It's ridiculous how they spent 1-2 Minutes getting ready for a Scrum or a Lineout, those Springboks were injured every second ..

@charliejones7830 2 жыл бұрын

they used that tactic against the lions, just kept stopping all the time for a breath and to talk

@toimartin7185 2 жыл бұрын

Finally I wasn't the only one noticing this. Ref's job to keep game going. Looked hot too. Had been played at our pace could have been a blow out.

@charliejones7830 2 жыл бұрын

@@toimartin7185 yeah i heard the 2nd lions test game had 15 minutes of stoppages in both halfs

@LB_die_Kaapie 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah no team ever does that 🙄 hypocrites!

@Saiyan4eva 2 жыл бұрын

@@charliejones7830 Yeah man & this is the shit kinda game these saffa fan boyz love no wonder they on a losing streak it'll be four in a row come this weekend lolz...

@chrisbladergroen7057 2 жыл бұрын

This aged well hahahahah

@honawikeepa5813 2 жыл бұрын

It seems unlikely the AB's will make the same mistakes two games in a row. I think that the AB's also adapt better and are better second time around. I think that it is easier to practice being more clinical in your approach to a rush defense than it is to perfect that kind of defense. The Bok's have clearly perfected the rush defense already. The AB defense was pretty good even though their attack lacked some precision. The question for the Bok's, is how do we beat the AB's. The AB's, will be concentrating on being clinical. This formula has worked well for the AB's in the past. I think it will be another close game, and the team that uses every opportunity with the ball, to attack with ball in hand, will win. Both will defend well, but being able to defend at a high level and still attack at every opportunity will separate the teams. Bok's once again serve notice on NZ, and those that thought that they had lost their Mojo.

@markdaws9667 2 жыл бұрын

Good note. I think the AB's will be much better and see a score-line of 10 points difference (if not more) for the AB's. The Boks are going to be tested on fitness and mental strength as they have one foot on the plane back home for a deserved rest (albeit they most likely would have lost every game on tour). I am hoping to eat massive Humble Pie should this not be the case.

@corbenjano4890 2 жыл бұрын

@@markdaws9667 how do you like your pie. Cause i like to serve it ICE COLD😁🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦😎

@WalterWhite-sm2dr 2 жыл бұрын

All blacks win with kick in last minute and complaining about opposition style not playing to there liking ... New Zealand arrogance ??!!

@joelego5767 2 жыл бұрын

Very negative game mindset? Bullshit! Thwse people would not have complained if they were not scared of the boks. Arrogant wussies

@MildBentley 2 жыл бұрын

Fortunately not all sides play the same style which keeps it interesting!

@paulmuller1082 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry we didn’t conform to your expectations, may we long continue

@rhyswilliams4006 2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to hear JK this week...

@smokeycloudz2132 2 жыл бұрын

Kirwin, the Kearns of NZ

@phoenixfridge1495 Жыл бұрын

I never thought the day would come that NZ would bring out the sour grapes 🍇 Suck it up and find a way As an England supporter we try different styles but alqays go back to our original style under pressure some times it works sometimes it doesn't I would love England to play a Harlequins style of play of the bat but we just don't seem to click at it SA are just better at it at the moment But defenses adapt and the game changes , a good coach should be able to change a team dynamics especially with the players NZ have

@nickybabalas 2 жыл бұрын

I think we have a good understanding of that game plan to work for 80% of the game. What I do not understand is getting close to the AB 22 and then kicking the ball. I understand it's a territory game, but we have won the territory, we are in an attacking position, let's attack, not defend in an attacking space. We could have won if we played when we had the ball approaching the 22. Kicking the ball away in those positions will lose you the game, and it did.

@pohara68urupa98 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. And us NZ supporters should all be worried. These Boks can play Rugby. The Boks keep the ball in hand in our 22, and the AB’s lose convincingly imo. The fact they made few mistakes compared to our AB’s seems to be going unnoticed by many.

@nickybabalas 2 жыл бұрын

@@pohara68urupa98 The thing about the ABs is that, unlike the Boks, they adapt well over games. This next game I'm worried for Boks. ABs will iron out those issues and come back harder, faster and more decisive. Boks better be far more clinical at the 22 or it's going to be a long day at the office. Much respect mate. Cheers.

@pohara68urupa98 2 жыл бұрын

@@nickybabalas Taking my sons to the game. As a leader and dominant player, Kolisi stands alone on the world stage. Can’t wait to see Duane and Eben with my own eyes. Yeah we have some amazing backs in NZ, but that whole Bok pack are monsters. In a war of attrition, thats the pack I want. Take that pack up to the Northern Hemisphere, with the AB backline along with Kerevi and Kellaway, and its a massacre. Hoping for a great match. Cheers mate.

@nickybabalas 2 жыл бұрын

@@pohara68urupa98 enjoy the match with your boys. 🍻

@christoels8110 2 жыл бұрын

Boggles my mind too.

@christoph1246 2 жыл бұрын

I’m just here for the ridiculous accents 🤣🤣🤣

@stevenbennett9756 2 жыл бұрын

Think Rassie said it best, "Sir" is not such a big thing down here.

@bloomer311 Жыл бұрын

1 year later... this ages very well, hey Johny?

@johnzulu2565 2 жыл бұрын

As a South African have to agree we have the best backs ever, what a waste by kicking to death.

@pigslefats 2 жыл бұрын

If Boks play boring rugby then the opposition must razzle dazzle the spectators with running rugby. Not to do so is a cop out. I fail to see how the Boks style rugby can prevent the AB's from running the length of the field with slick passing and scoring under the posts. Do it!

@kwedini1181 2 жыл бұрын

And a bit of Forward passes here and there

@pigslefats 2 жыл бұрын

@Go on have some How does strolling to line outs, discussions with the ref prevent AB's from starting a line move in their own 22 and running the length of the field with typical AB passing and support play and scoring beneath the posts? I fail to see how Bok 'tactics' will prevent this. If by some reason it does prevent this then all power to the Boks. Should the Boks play rugby that gifts play to the AB's strength? No. The AB's must demonstrate their traditional skills and not say "The Boks are preventing us playing to our strengths" Well hello!

@johnmcdermott4555 2 жыл бұрын

Play the game,your game style is our challange!What is interesting how the obstruction game that some of your guys play impacts the outcome of many games , thats how you use a style to make your game faster using obstruction technics!Just review the video's and be honest about it. What is so interesting by taking out potential opposition moves on the opposition players not near the Ball, makes your sides looks brilliant! Your off the Ball game that's what makes your players look Greater and Faster!! Boks had to adapt to your style of play,getting you game choked! Give us the freedom and fare share for a change to develop into a very fast team also. Hope I do not step onto sensitive toes!!

@president6645 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine a South African panel complaining that the All Blacks run too much and don't use their forwards enough and accuse them of playing touch rugby. Have New Zealanders considered that the Springboks don't want to play the same style as the All Blacks?

@rorybessell8280 2 жыл бұрын

They had the same style at the last world cup and it didn't ruin the experience. When it's done well, games can still be exciting, it's when it's well defended that it can get boring (especially seeing as the Boks have great defence as well)

@robinjackson1479 2 жыл бұрын

Has rugby really become so one dimensional that we we can only appreciate one style of play. I watch rugby because it of all its complexities compared to other sports. Can we not celebrate the Springboks for bringing a new dimension to the game? The Springboks are bringing something different and it interests me to see how teams cope with this. Why do we have ex All blacks speaking about our game as though it is going to stangnate when we all know that it is always evolving. ABs will adapt, Boks will adapt, and the rivalry will continue. Rugby will always evolve and teams will always be developing. I understand that AB supporters want to see running rugby, but what interests me is seeing how teams evolve from being sucked into playing the boks style of play and where the game will go from there. Do our ex ABs really think that this is a connundrum that can't be solved and that this is just how its going to be forever. I am a mathematician with a handfull of games in my early scholling career to draw experience from. If I can realize this we should expect better commentary from ex ABs. Shout out to fresh perspectives and exploring new dimsions of the game. Seeing everybody try to play in the same way and hearing everybody say the same things is not why I watch rugby. lol I came here to get an idea of how the ABs gameplan would develop from here. But they are just repeating what is being said on every other channel. Should we not expect more from ex ABs? We have heard this before.

@jjopl 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it is necessarily bad that they (ex ABs) can't provide a desirable answer to counteract this style of play, the verdict is still not yet out on how one can counteract this 'new' brand of rugby. Is there even a good "running rugby" refutation to contestable high balls and pressure defenses? Doesn't seem like it (beyond catching high balls and nitpicking defensive schema with ball in hand...which is not unique to this style of play). There's also the fact that it is a very boring viewing experience (not just for AB supporters).

@jonathanuys9998 2 жыл бұрын

JK is the Simon Cowell of Rugby - biggest 'Drama Queen' of all.

@christoduplessis8177 2 жыл бұрын

The rest of the world on whether John Kirwen on KZfaq is spoiling rugby for fans: Yes!

@petes9524 2 жыл бұрын

Who are RWC champions and number one in the world rankings today?😁

@reniervanheerden2600 2 жыл бұрын

The Springboks are on the right track,:the Kiwis are complaining.

@westsideAUKILANI 2 жыл бұрын

I believe the Boks are on a good path. Strategy wise though, box kicking when in the ABz 22 is crazy to me. Better decisions need to be made in those key areas of the field

@dude9318 2 жыл бұрын

@@westsideAUKILANI i think they kicked way too much .But they would win their matches if it wasn't for a few mistakes

@westsideAUKILANI 2 жыл бұрын

@@dude9318 definitely bro. This weekends game will be interesting on how both teams approach.

@RioGamer 2 жыл бұрын

@@dude9318 just wait till the all blacks stop the mistakes they made that week

@joshtipene3463 2 жыл бұрын

@@dude9318 Credit to the boks for frustrating the ABs but they really stuffed up a golden opportunity to win that game against the ABs. Damn that must of hurt😜

@dezman56ford 2 жыл бұрын

What bothers me, and should bother other followers of the game, the ref was in his element, he did nothing to prohibit these obtrusive ugly stoppages, must be a northern rugby thing, we also need a team Captain who will protest vigorously to the ref over these frequent boring stoppages, looking at you Ardie.

@Saiyan4eva 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's so true man, & yes agree with you there Ardie needed to step up & say something not just stand there and accept what the Boks were doing, but think he was too over rawed by the occasion, if it was McCaw he would have made sure to get in the refs ear & make sure he's officiating the game in a positive manner not allowing these dirty tactics to happen, even though we won the Boks absolutely ruined this game for me...

@Erock1275 2 жыл бұрын

Well it is only his second test as captain. I’m sure he would’ve have a word with the coaching staff about certain situations during that game. He’ll get better.

@fletmok3548 2 жыл бұрын

That ref was shit house. Counted at least 3 times he got in the road of the ABs attacking play …repeat shit house!!!

@kennethharris1580 2 жыл бұрын

I hear ya get rid of Ardie as cap

@oldmanwillyboy2786 2 жыл бұрын

Nothing to do with Northern Rugby! All the new laws like the TMO etc were introduced in Super Rugby before anywhere else! as demanded by the SANZAR Unions! Get your facts right before you embarrass yourself even more son!

@willempretorius6700 Жыл бұрын

I'm sure Rassie and Jaques have sleepless nights trying to figure out how to play a game that would please John Kirwin.

@jivantakirstenpillay6128 6 ай бұрын

it wasn't boring celebrating a 4th WC victory 🙂

@ebrj5188 2 жыл бұрын

The All blacks ran in 4 plus tries against every team they have played against this year. Then the springboks comes along and limit them. How is that the fault of the springboks???

@Trajan2401 2 жыл бұрын

4 tries is on the cards next time the ABs are unlikely to play that bad again and they'll have a better team SA are in trouble especially if the ref does his job and stops them from slowing the game down

@joshtipene3463 2 жыл бұрын

What if the All Blacks win again and don't score 4 tries will the Boks be pleased they lost, will it prove their strategy works? Since when did saffas start treating close loses like wins? I'm amused by some of these comments

@ebrj5188 2 жыл бұрын

It was proven already ..WC + B&I lions in the bag ...However I will admit it is as frustrating for the bok fans to watch as well . Do remember boks lost on Saturday in the last 4 minutes of the match due to decision making and not game plan .What people are asking for is ridiculous. Imagine your opponent telling you how not to play ffs.

@joshtipene3463 2 жыл бұрын

@@ebrj5188You're only as good as your last game mate, we can prove that strategy won't work against the ABs if we are going off the 5, 10 or even 20 games played, besides that everyone has an opinion they're like arseholes we all got one. But does that mean if i tell you to go fly a kite are you going to do it? probably not so do you will do us. Don't be quick to jump on JK remember bokke have Mark Keohane and he's worst😛

@Trajan2401 2 жыл бұрын

@@ebrj5188 ,not really SA had an easy route to the final and lost to NZ you beat an average stale Lions side JUST you got hammered by Australia and lost to NZ AGAIN it only works against average sides rarely against NZ in fact only 3 wins in 11 years says it all

@kolielouw 2 жыл бұрын

Please JK. Run the ball when you get the ball. Nobody stops you from running the ball.

@thebiggest8797 6 ай бұрын

2 years later, the boks win the world cup with the "kick'athon". Humble pie served cold

@edwinpaul61 2 жыл бұрын

I guess close and tight games that have you on the edge of your seat, not knowing which side will ultimately end up victorious is boring. Everyone should just play AB’s style of rugby regardless if it suits them or not because a massive thrashing is more entertaining. Probably why NZ stadiums are so packed with spectators as it’s amazing when there is no competition and one side completely dominates.

@jpfowlds5921 2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@isaaclesibakgomo1938 2 жыл бұрын

Are you trying to win NZ matches off the field, if they are truly the best in the world they should be able to counter SA without a problem 😏😏😏😏😏😏😏on field 😎😎

@deevita7459 2 жыл бұрын

Winning is winning JK. Stop complaining.

@maxwellmakiru2960 Жыл бұрын

It’s true what the panel is saying in reference to slowing play down. England and Ireland are good at it. The point is that’s not there fault but the officials who are meant to control the game. The point is we were good enough to handle the pressure. Well done SA on a brilliant game. Come All Black you got this.

@EthanGordon007 2 жыл бұрын

J.K. JUST ACCEPT THAT TWICE A YEAR YOU WILL MEET THE MASTERMIND OF A DEFENSIVE TEAM.

@homonaledi640 2 жыл бұрын

The anti-springboks movement...

@jamess3494 2 жыл бұрын

Hey bro.....why do nz lose all their games against this less "superior" style of rugby????

@Trajan2401 Жыл бұрын

What do you mean NZ have an overwhelming record against SA so no it's SA and their boring style that lose most of the time.

@Teezy_Ty 2 жыл бұрын

What is the obsession about how SA Rugby plays since we won the WC? Yes I agree at times we can kick the ball away needlessly and throw away our possession. However when we combine it forward dominance and attacking space when it is available it is effective. It’s up to the opposition to stop it. We have seen what happens when teams try play the same game as the AB’s - they get thumped. The key to beating the AB’s is to slow the game down, and beat them at the breakdown. IMO the AB’s 1st five is a weakness of theirs and can be exploited (scrums, lineouts) which the Boks did in both games. AB’s don’t like slow ball and this creates errors in their game. Anyways was a fantastic 2nd game. And can’t wait to hear what JK has to say this week! Now both teams need to thrash the northerners.

@visualflights4573 Жыл бұрын

If you're a Bok then it is very exciting! The crowd went wild! It was boring if you're a Kiwi. HA HA!

@happysaffa8871 2 жыл бұрын

Yea, shows you what you know. This aged like a old piece of cheese left out in the sun. Next time boys

@namesurname7650 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to know they are chowing some humble pie right about now

@lobomorunga1 2 жыл бұрын

don't forget the strolling to the lineouts. Should there be a delay of game penalty?

@bremCZ 2 жыл бұрын

There already is.

@AutisticWombot 2 жыл бұрын

SO many other teams do this. I've noticed the ABs andf Wallabies doing it too, although they keepan unstructured linout setup so that they can creep in on the centre line. If they start policing it, the boks will adapt but they need to police it fairly.

@thefobbieii2888 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely BUT I thought it was comical the referee telling the ABs to hurry up in one lineout in the first half! HOWEVER that is not the issue that we should be focusing on! The Boks controlled the lineouts with the POD formation of Etzebeth (front) De Jagar (middle) and Vermuelen (back)! This cut off any AB throw to the back or middle forcing the ABs to go to the front with that defensive POD pouring through the lineout to put pressure on Perenara! It also allowed the Boks to defend the rolling maul to the sideline - thought there were some issues on gate of entry with the Boks driving to the sideline! The issue is it stopped Perenara throwing flat passes off the lineout giving the ABs access over the advantage line - MAJOR ISSUE for AB attack!

@brianzungu3249 Жыл бұрын

How do we feel about the Boks game today?

@arnoldbtful 2 жыл бұрын

Who said we must play your style, we like our style.

@lukasmilet2028 2 жыл бұрын

what is actually more annoying than springbocks style of play is the ongoing useless discussion. bottom line is that south africa is very effective and was very close to beating the all blacks. it was one or two stupid kicking away the ball in the last 5 minutes and we would have a different winner. all backs simply were extremely lucky and probably didnt even deserve to win. as a matter of fact the quality of play was awful mostly due to the awful handling and mistakes from new zealand. also be careful what you wish for: if the springbocks find a balance between their current game plan and running rugby with their very dangerous wings/backs a la kolbe they may well be the biggest force in rugby!

@stuartwhyman1 2 жыл бұрын

Their record in the last 10 meeting would say otherwise. 10:1 THe most boring top tier team out there.

@RioGamer 2 жыл бұрын

Very close is not good enuf

@lukasmilet2028 2 жыл бұрын

@@RioGamer that is right. Just wanted to comment as a clueless person from a non-rugb-playing country loving the game..

@lukasmilet2028 2 жыл бұрын

@@stuartwhyman1 may be and fair point. it is still not about being atractive or boring but effective and successful..

@thefobbieii2888 2 жыл бұрын

@@stuartwhyman1 - ...."Their record in the last 10 meeting would say otherwise. 10:1 THe most boring top tier team out there".... You completely miss the point! We - the ABs - were very average vs the Boks due to the Boks game plan! They controlled us in the lineouts, they controlled us in the rolling mauls, the referee dealt to us on the penalty count with the scrums - though incorrect penalties - our attack got nailed behind the advantage line by the Boks umbrella rush defence and once they got their target length right on the box kicks in the 2nd half the ABs loss the aerial battle there and the ABs got turned over like french toast at the tackle ball! And that's the best comment you can come up with - lol delusional!

@2drex116 2 жыл бұрын

It's just a tactic, people better stop moaning. The same way Jose Mourinho made parking the bus popular in football to win the uefa. Is it boring to park the bus? Yes, but it works very well

@tristanwallace 2 жыл бұрын

Please understand that many South Africans enjoy seeing our opponents suffocate. We enjoy seeing we are harder and stronger. Please understand that rugby is not an athletics tournament for running around only. It is also a physical and technical game. Just because you cannot be as technical and as physical as the Boks it doesn't mean you can throw a tantrum and SA will completely change their DNA.

@EthanGordon007 2 жыл бұрын

WE ARE YOUR BIGGEST RIVALS. ACCEPTANCE IS KEY.

@automationtube8273 2 жыл бұрын

Omw...trash talking kings... As a springbok supporter i did not support the shitty kicking gameplan, but it almost worked and believe me it was also frustrating me. Shows you the boks can have different gameplans and still cause upsets. Would be nice to hear what this panel have to say about yesterdays game... Tons of poor ref decisions that always favours the ABs. The scoreboard should have been much bigger for the boks, but i bet for you blokes it doesnt matter. The 3 losses for us is a good learning curve. When we bring our A game NO TEAM STANDS A CHANCE . Watching this show was a serious joke...m

@johnsmithwinkwink1704 2 жыл бұрын

Yep we were so predictable we won 3 RWC's.

@christoels8110 2 жыл бұрын

We can win the next three as well, but it will mean nothing to our critics, because the All Blacks are the only team allowed to win the RWC.

@johnsmithwinkwink1704 2 жыл бұрын

@@christoels8110 World rugby has been turned upside down after Bokke won their third RWC, it wasnt meant to happen as World rugby backed Kiwis for that honour. Kiwi rugby and British Lions are under World Rugby's wings.

@christoels8110 2 жыл бұрын

@@johnsmithwinkwink1704 The world is against us. We've known that for years now. The Kiwi's are the blue-eyed boys of the world, but they are good.

@christoels8110 2 жыл бұрын

@Edit Name A bit dramatic? Well, it caught your attention, didn't it? Unless we are a bit dramatic (like Rassie's video too) the rugby world will not take note of our legitimate concerns.

@harrysampson2342 2 жыл бұрын

Sour grapes🤣🤣 Its called a game plan!

@ivankurtz1909 2 жыл бұрын

Actually senior rugby in Auckland in the 60s and 70s was exactly like that. Hart was furious I ran the ball from inside the 25!

@Trajan2401 2 жыл бұрын

But the game is a lot faster now except when you play SA

@ivankurtz1909 2 жыл бұрын

@@Trajan2401 I thought Barrett was impeded going for the ball in the air on at least three occasions but no reaction from ref's. He was being bumped from the side by South Africa whilst having no chance of securing the ball. If this continues more and more players will join into the battle in the air. With serious injuries resulting. In AFL if the player doesn't have his eyes on the ball they are deemed as obstructing.

@Trajan2401 2 жыл бұрын

@@ivankurtz1909 ,it will resemble going for marks in AFL soon as for the ref he was rubbish blowing the whistle all day long too pedantic and allowing SA to slow the game down with fake injuries and so on I think he blew the whistle more than Faf(kick all day)de Klerk kicked rubbish NH ref.

@ivankurtz1909 2 жыл бұрын

@@Trajan2401 Did he! As needed police the 'offside' infringements from the kick chasers? I think not.