John Salley on Kobe Rating Himself #2, After Wilt and Before Jordan (Part 5)

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Part 1: • John Salley on His Mom...
In this clip, John Salley talked about joining the Los Angeles Lakers and how he talked Phil Jackson into giving him a spot on the Lakers when Phil took over after the shortened 1998-99 season. Salley went on to recount how he began to cultivate a relationship with Kobe while on the Lakers during a time when Bryant was still developing as a player and as a man.

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@WealthbuilderzTV 4 жыл бұрын

Kobe is going to be missed for a very very very very loooooooong time.

@stackierobinson5408 4 жыл бұрын

Forever

@BigWilt2000 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah for sure. no offensive to other sports greats and ones who will pass on someday (not wishing any on nobody) but Kob's death will never recover with anybody. His hit the hardest

@livelifels2726 4 жыл бұрын

Wealthbuilderz TV times infinity 😢😢😢

@AHMAD-2324 4 жыл бұрын

In other words forever...

@deiondiamond3841 3 жыл бұрын

Always

@ronbonora7872 3 жыл бұрын

Kobe knew his basketball history that is for certain. He stated that Wilt Chamberlain was the GOAT and he is right as the 72 records that Wilt still holds proves it! Rest in Peace Kobe!

@Elonmuskit 2 жыл бұрын

Facts wilt is the greatest big man in NBA history

@tomguglielmo9805 Жыл бұрын

@@Elonmuskit considering he was a PG for roughly 8 years I'd say he was BEYOND the "big man" role. Just saying 😌

@ksager123 3 ай бұрын

Nah

@DesmondDaddy 4 жыл бұрын

John Sally....this dude. He is one of my favs, he always got the best stories about the NBA, from the inside. And he knows every damn body!

@kam0073 4 жыл бұрын

I love seeing how much John Sally Loved Kobe. I can watch these clips over and over.

@qb6570 4 жыл бұрын

The wildest thing about this ENTIRE interview is that John Salley has a barber.🤔

@jknumber5138 4 жыл бұрын

Tommy from Martin had a barber

@Taneleius4 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao beard hair fam

@booshine187 4 жыл бұрын

Q B dead

@exemusic4125 4 жыл бұрын

On everything been pondering this shit for like 3days🤔

@jazzcabbage1776 4 жыл бұрын

Lol he has a beard tho

@JusBlackTV 4 жыл бұрын

He was talking about scoring total. The guy was heckling his scoring and he was saying wilt had 100 he had 81 and Mike had 69

@JusBlackTV 4 жыл бұрын

@@russotv9867 I know but that's what Kobe was referencing

@gmsyahawashi0012 4 жыл бұрын

@@JusBlackTV you reaching wit no proof.

@jtremaine23 4 жыл бұрын

It's funny...because the scoring total is what I thought about when he said the names in that order. It makes sense.

@XMAN4708 4 жыл бұрын

Jus'Black TV David Thompson scored 73 points April 9th 1978

@samtavakoli6682 4 жыл бұрын

Didn't David Robinson score 70?

@ErikKislikChessSuccess 4 жыл бұрын

RIP Kobe Bryant, the Black Mamba and a top 5 all-time NBA player. I still can't believe he's gone. Such an unthinkable tragedy.

@OddOneOut99 4 жыл бұрын

I got love for both, two of the best to ever do it everyone has their own opinion... RIP to all who lost their lives in that crash

@TheOnlyRodgers 4 жыл бұрын

I thought John Salley pulled some drawls out of his pocket like Tommy did in the court room on Martin.

@MrAlwaysonit100 4 жыл бұрын

😂🤣😂💀💀💀

@carreery 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@upgradeyourmindset3265 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@GBullockNC 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao!!! Oh shit

@chistability5405 4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@presidentfly9235 4 жыл бұрын

Jerry west ain’t better than Kobe.

@mexia23 4 жыл бұрын

No way no how respect his moves as a GM and a player hell no lol

@carloszaragoza619 4 жыл бұрын

President Fly unless you’re 70 years old you can’t make that statement, cuz Jerry West from 60-74

@presidentfly9235 4 жыл бұрын

Carlitos there’s film. And John salley ain’t 70.

@beattheodds6219 4 жыл бұрын

Not even fucking close . vlad need to stfu

@beattheodds6219 4 жыл бұрын

@The R. No he wasnt dumb bitch

@thetruth144 4 жыл бұрын

I still think KOBE IS THE REAL BEAST. He was so focused and truly loved the game. Stayed away from clubbing and bars etc. He was a good guy. So sad he had to leave us.. will be missed for life.

@tyronegreen2020 4 жыл бұрын

Super Cool Salley..Awesome interview...

@IfYouKnowYouKnow. 4 жыл бұрын

I like these John Salley clips.

@youtubescroller350 3 жыл бұрын

this is a great interview

@tonbryant403 4 жыл бұрын

John Salley And Kobe Bryant takin ova for the ‘99 and 2000 ❗️😂

@lanos7500 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@brishawn8571 4 жыл бұрын

@Neil Hood 🤣🤣. Automatically, i started singing that song in my head after resding his comment

@tonbryant403 4 жыл бұрын

Neil Hood 😂😭😭😭

@donj4396 4 жыл бұрын

Alright then Juve

@jimmyrawlings3343 4 жыл бұрын

Always love to hear John Sally stores there real .

@nukiepie 4 жыл бұрын

I was a huge NBA fan during the Kobe Shaq era. You know why i feel this death more than any other famous person other than Eddie? This was during one of the best peroids of my childhood growing up and also some of the worst moments where i suffered a shit load of bullying but NBA gave me happiness during that time and Kobe was at the forefront of it during that threepeat. Then over the years as i've got older Kobe was at the forefront of it all again winning championships when he was written off and his quotes and lifestyle advise and advise on how to conquer your day are all invaluable. There is a reason he died so young - just look at all his quotes, and interviews and how everybody takes note of every little word he says. He was on par with Tupac and Biggie - his words, life and memories will live for eternity.

@spencerwhitsett9350 4 жыл бұрын

Factz

@1990758 4 жыл бұрын

So basically you feel nothing for those other people on that helicopter what about those people on 9/11 there were mothers and daughters sitting next to each others there were fathers and daughters sitting next to each other you don't care about them

@1990758 4 жыл бұрын

@Mash_ da_Gas you still haven't given me anything he wrote what wrote a book everybody wrote a book I'm not surprised that you only see Kobe Bryant on that helicopter is the state of this generation. Just remember most of these celebrities if there's not a camera around they wouldn't give a fuck about you or me for that matter look what Kobe Bryant live at look where the Mamba Academy was at

@robrivera6067 4 жыл бұрын

@@1990758 and your probably a shitty person too. Who knows its all perspective

@stressedout80 4 жыл бұрын

Rob Rivera you stole my name

@stebbiej 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glade hes giving wilt respect. Ppl always leave him out

@spinningorb 4 жыл бұрын

If we aren't talking about rings, Wilt is CLEARLY the GOAT. But the NBA - because one player can effect a game so much - is about rings. Note: Jordan isn't in my Top 3 of the GOATS.

@fatboyRAY24 4 жыл бұрын

Well i mean look who wilt was playing against....

@abihamal7874 4 жыл бұрын

fatboyRAY24 not his fault he was born a freak in that time period 🤷🏽

@jazzcabbage1776 4 жыл бұрын

Yea it's the rings.. but you can't sit there and say rings don't matter cuz they definitely do. The motive for every great in the NBA is to WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS. Stats matter too but winning a chip is the ultimate goal. If you don't do that at the rate of the other greats, it matters alot. Only Bron fans think stats matter waaay more than rings which is not true.

@abihamal7874 4 жыл бұрын

spinningorb Jordan isn’t top3 ? 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣🤣🤣 Bruh u either old asf or too young to be watching nba

@petloversph1786 3 жыл бұрын

I am crying while watching this video i dont know why man!

@ericksmart5563 4 жыл бұрын

Good to see John Sally after all these years.

@sunnyv5718 25 күн бұрын

When John was describing how he got in shape all I could hear was the Rocky theme in my head with John running around LA.

@kristinLB 4 жыл бұрын

I love this man.

@gulftoad 4 жыл бұрын

I enjoy Salley' stories.

@38snubnose 4 жыл бұрын

I Love spider salley he just talks entertaining shit. Very Little Facts.

@d.felixphoto2260 4 жыл бұрын

Definitely a party conversationalist. You stop and talk to him have a good talk and by the time you look at your watch it's a good time to leave out. Lol.

@jerryharper2967 4 жыл бұрын

Well said

@Realigndadjmusic 4 жыл бұрын

Superb

@clemondbrown 4 жыл бұрын

Man, where were all the Kobe questions before the tragedy? I love hearing other players.talk about my guy.

@AfricaGeo 4 жыл бұрын

RIP Mr.Bryant

@pavlovsworld9122 4 жыл бұрын

It's time... He's the One Let the debate rest. #KOBE #MAMBA His Life (all of it) His Tragedy (Gigi and the helicopter) ALL OF IT RISES WITH HIM IMMORTAL Make him the greatest. All the scars The good the bad. The story of becoming and being GREAT He did not let the worst define him. #KOBE Put him above everyone.

@Shakazulu0 4 жыл бұрын

Salley is a great storyteller.

@Jean_Pierre_Wehry 4 жыл бұрын

John Salley is great. He was awesome in Bad Boys 1 and 2, among his great basketball career. RIP Kobe Bryant.

@jayleslie9197 4 жыл бұрын

It’s at 8 likes Let it stay that way Rip Kobe ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾🤚🏾

@lilsamreactions507 4 жыл бұрын

Jay Leslie umma like urs instead

@jayleslie9197 4 жыл бұрын

Lil Sam I salute you 🤛🏾

@Daveisnowhere. 4 жыл бұрын

greatest athlete of all time. kobe!

@tamambe 4 жыл бұрын

This guy won 4 championships with 3 different Teams! Respect!!

@evpopstar2873 4 жыл бұрын

I think he's talking about how he's one of only 3 players to average 35 points or more in a season, the other 2 being Wilt and Jordan (and now James Harden). Then he says "that's a short list" because only 3 people had ever done that and he's one of them.

@tielerbeaver3048 4 жыл бұрын

Ev Popstar he was, they completely took this out of context. in another interview kobe said mj goat kobes top 5 the only big man was bill russel

@azFlash89 3 жыл бұрын

Man I miss kobe 💔 legends never die tho 💯

@FlyHy89 4 жыл бұрын

Did yall see how serious kobe face got once the ball got inbound #RIPKOBE

@hoodreviews9520 4 жыл бұрын

Off topic but I’m just realizing 25 years later that John Salley was in the movie Bad Boys because he was a member of the Pistons Bad Boys.🤯🤯🤯

@carlbrazier2554 4 жыл бұрын

Keon Leonard because if this comment me to 😭😭

@mangospineapples 2 жыл бұрын

Kobe forever .

@itsdjeazybaby7097 4 жыл бұрын

I miss you Kobe 💔💔💔😢😢😢😢

@flyfish5013 4 жыл бұрын

RIP Kobe!!

@modmav5594 3 жыл бұрын

Salley sounds like a great teammate

@YoBroMan 4 жыл бұрын

Losing Kobe so young, will make him immortal and the most celebrated NBA player in history.

@billkittleman9631 4 жыл бұрын

There is no ONE singular GOAT in the game of basketball .. too many outstanding players across too many different eras to simply annoint one player with that title

@NinthOfFebruary 4 жыл бұрын

John Salley interviews are top 5

@nbagoats4819 3 жыл бұрын

I have always called Wilt Chamberlain the best basketball player ever.

@churchservice2700 4 жыл бұрын

I don't think people truly understand how much information Salley chooses to hide from public camera. He's been around so many iconic actors, musicians, and athletes from the 80s. Sometimes it's not always a good thing whenever he smile constantly. I'm sure he has many dark and embarrassing stories of prominent stars from his era.

@Raywehoopin 4 жыл бұрын

Soooo tight 😂Lakers Jersey..- John Salley

@doointhedoo 4 жыл бұрын

Is it me or does it look like John is almost in tears? I think he's still feeling the tragedy.

@cashholiday8911 4 жыл бұрын

Jordan the goat for sure

@cedrictrotter1140 4 жыл бұрын

Jordan was the baddest ball player on the planet.

@doctoranderson2009 4 жыл бұрын

Wrong

@doctoranderson2009 4 жыл бұрын

@@cedrictrotter1140 yeah in the 90s

@jayregal6478 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing, John has a BARBER!

@nieshapatterson2902 4 жыл бұрын

No one beats Wilt one on one. Playground- top 50 ever hoop tournament. Wilt wins.

@nieshapatterson2902 4 жыл бұрын

@The R. neither ran track or high jumped. Wilt bigger and stronger than Shaq. Hakeem would try a fade away, Wilt would take the ball out of air 🤣😂 I'm not a casual. I played for Dunbar. I went to school with AI and Victor page. I have 3 Jr and high school mvps. What's your basketball background. NBA 2k 😒

@MrJ120 4 жыл бұрын

@@nieshapatterson2902 Why he couldn't do that to Bill Russell then?

@nieshapatterson2902 4 жыл бұрын

@The R. blah blah blah you have no basketball credianials 😢

@nieshapatterson2902 4 жыл бұрын

@Mr. Marshall What's your basketball resume like? You triggered by a screen name 🤣😂 reacting as if I'm a female who has no right to talk basketball. Old man Wilt towered over Shaq. Research before spewing out B.S. for the sake of arguing. Wilt the only 7 footer who dunked from free throw line. Kobe would drill shaq about not staying in shape 😔 like Shaq had a jumper. Like Shaq could shoot freethrows. Shaq didn't even have a hook shot mr buster. Dismiss you and your moma. No one invited you.

@dequincyalexander9976 4 жыл бұрын

I think Shaq does

@celestematthews3266 4 жыл бұрын

My PRAYERS are with Kobe BRYANT,daughter and all seven victims as well.

@eddieg.robinson1068 3 жыл бұрын

Jerry West was like a cross between stockton & Steph. The "Logo". Top 5 do to importance to the league.

@dskinner8757 3 жыл бұрын

John Sally got the juiciest / dripiest eyes in the game lol 😂

@mrpearson1230 4 жыл бұрын

"He left Jerry West out?" 🙄😒😔 Salley never ceases to amaze me 🤦🏾‍♂️

@johnnyboy7256 4 жыл бұрын

He does that to get attention . That’s why I don’t believe anything he says.but he is still a nice guy.

@sonson1873 4 жыл бұрын

He was saying that cus Kobe look up to Jerry West...Jerry West around Kobe most of his young career

@mrelove72 4 жыл бұрын

Kobe put Jerry west on his personal Mount Rushmore in an interview. That's where Salley is coming from.

@1990758 4 жыл бұрын

It's going to talk like Max Kellerman I'm talking about the Modern Age or what's the other one that use oh that was before my time

@shawnkeith2414 Жыл бұрын

I 💯AGREE

@LoyalGanGLuke 4 жыл бұрын

Kobe the fuckin goat!! I said it my whole life. Rip king #big goaty!!! And for those saying Kobe was playing bout that list well u don't know Kobe

@sh0tym370 3 жыл бұрын

He is hilarious!!

@RARA64HUNNID 4 жыл бұрын

if you held your eyes closed, & listened to a 19yr old kobe, he had the same exact vocal tone & speech pattern as a 30yr old m.j.

@jimhendericks 4 жыл бұрын

King Of LA

@alb6804 4 жыл бұрын

Love it!!! Haha

@kudabeen 4 жыл бұрын

Always held Wilt as that dude...Probably the philly in Kobe where he saw how they try to shrink the giant of the game...

@kashataylor6430 4 жыл бұрын

You should always think highly of yourself.

@demariophelps4728 2 жыл бұрын

thats a strong 3

@sergiogarcia5593 4 жыл бұрын

Man, Kobe at 21 gave the Spurs 33-7-7 on 53% FG and swept them. Not only that, but he attacked the basket at will and dominated in that paint with the Twin Towers there.

@traslenpatterson3478 4 жыл бұрын

I think Kobe was referring to their highest point total, which would make sense if you're talking about Wilt 100 points, Kobe's 81 points and Jordan's 69 points.

@fligodemusbablinka 2 жыл бұрын

Can't be because u got the admirals 71

@victorc8804 4 жыл бұрын

20 years out of nba since retirement john salley still got $guap$ still not broke thanks to investments and hard work

@kraybrother8768 4 жыл бұрын

That nigga broke watch the other Vlad interview where shaq gave him 50k Iand didnt want it back

@tubenachos 4 жыл бұрын

Salley and Charlie Murphy would get along very well.

@bluebankrollarmy4384 4 жыл бұрын

ITS CHILD'S PLAY!!! CHILD'S PLAY!!!!!!!!!!

@rhythemandpoetry 4 жыл бұрын

Piston blue handkerchief.. I see you sal

@hoodratpat5228 4 жыл бұрын

Yo I could’ve sworn Salley told Vlad this before about hitting up Phil and going the Lakers

@swygfryryrfghuf8908 4 жыл бұрын

VLAD A STONER

@journalism101 4 жыл бұрын

It don't matter how to jersey feels as long as the check is right. Isiah Thomas is from Chicago and he dreamed of playing for the Chicago Bulls and grew up hating the Detroit Pistons but he was drafted by them and played for them his whole career. If he was caught up in his feelings there would be no Bad Boys Pistons.

@Nemataylor 4 жыл бұрын

Og goes to the barbershop and gets a fresh bald head lol

@chadsoandso 4 жыл бұрын

I love Kobe bro lol

@heff434 4 жыл бұрын

That's kind of a "in the heat of the moment" list. We don't even know if he even meant in that particular order. He could've meant they all shared the top spot. But I guess anything for views, right?

@xxxs8309 4 жыл бұрын

Wilt was an athletic freak

@charleswilliams6758 4 жыл бұрын

@The R. In any era Wilt would dominate. How many NBA players now could high jump 6'8" run a sub 2 minute 800 meters , throw the shot, and bench press over 400 pounds well into his 40's.? Just because you may have not see him play don't downplay his exploits. And he still owns half of the NBA record book nearly 50 years after his retirement.

@onesonofjacob 4 жыл бұрын

@The R. that ain't got SHIT to do with the fact that he looked like a fucking beast physically back in the day.

@juicyjfan 4 жыл бұрын

@The R. He was a freak in any era are you dumb? Arnold Schwarzenegger is on record saying Wilt could pick him up with one hand with ease. Arnold was 260lbs in his prime. Wilt also had a 42" vertical in his prime.

@tyronejames4187 4 жыл бұрын

I see it as Kobe as being up there with MJ and Wilt. I didn't see as he saying he's better than MJ. Just that him and the other two are the best. But that's me. I could be wrong

@1990758 4 жыл бұрын

With the without Rings Wilt Chamberlain is the best basketball player of all time does it matter how many games he played doesn't matter how long ago it was. He could have came straight out of junior high school and played in the NBA

@lapx1 4 жыл бұрын

@@1990758 Most players were not as skilled back then. Competition much more improved today. Com'on, i could beat bob cousey. The worst players today would beat any team back then. Different time. Players are faster stronger and way more skilled. It's called evolution.

@1990758 4 жыл бұрын

@TheRealist 811 and rings can be a result being on the right team at the right time or jumping from Team to team

@John6-40 4 жыл бұрын

@@lapx1 Evolution supposedly takes "millions" of years bro. Not 50. 😂😂😂 In truth, players made a giant leap when scouting improved. When the game expanded and more people started playing high school ball. More players to choose from = better talent. Not to mention the training and medicals are worlds better. Everything got better. It wasn't evolution.

@anthonyholley2796 4 жыл бұрын

John Salley ,was never really a good basketball player however he plays a very important historical role in the history of basketball. Anytime you played with the original Detroit Bad Boys, Michael Jordan the Bulls and Kobe Bryant the Lakers , you are legendary.

@NOMKWEST 4 жыл бұрын

Kobe right for real

@judahmourneth3211 4 жыл бұрын

NOMKWEST Kobe is not even a top 10 player

@NOMKWEST 4 жыл бұрын

Judah Mourneth smh 🤦🏽‍♂️🤣😂🤣

@judahmourneth3211 4 жыл бұрын

NOMKWEST hey have to keep it real

@NOMKWEST 4 жыл бұрын

Judah Mourneth who is your ten better than Kobe??

@judahmourneth3211 4 жыл бұрын

NOMKWEST mj, Bill, Kareem magic, bird, wilt, lebron Duncan Shaq Hakeem 11th Kobe

@victormaitland5331 4 жыл бұрын

After the Super Bowl 🏟 Footage 🏈🐐📟📡

@TroyStaines 4 жыл бұрын

How does this dude interviewing sound like a young Phil Jackson haha

@74daddi 4 жыл бұрын

we all love kobe and to whomever wants to trip about salley inquiring about jerry west, kobe respected jerrys game my man was all about that defense and tough as fuck and he also had a shot and could ball, im not saying hes top 5 but people shouldnt think hes trash jerry west could ball

@taahirthegreat 4 жыл бұрын

That’s the list of the most points in a game.

@SeanRosati 4 жыл бұрын

Taahir Abdur-Rahim nah it’s not. Elgin has had many 70 point games.

@carlosdupree4033 2 жыл бұрын

I "saw" them both....KOBE by a mile!!!

4 жыл бұрын

This tragedy don't change shit about Kobes place. Hes been top 3 for me for me since 2011

@tykeenelson9266 4 жыл бұрын

Did he say he was talkin to his barber?

@JG-xt6eu 4 жыл бұрын

Kobe must've thought no one was recording that. When the ESPN documentary abt the Bulls drop in the summer everyone's going to come back to their senses.

@fresh2def23231 4 жыл бұрын

Facts

@conorohara5481 4 жыл бұрын

Kobe was and remains Jordan's equal on the court. It's not hard for Jordan to admit, why is it so sensitive for you?

@JG-xt6eu 4 жыл бұрын

@@conorohara5481 We men talking sports, you bringing up feelings?? Stay focused. Kobe is equal to M.J how? Less rings despite playing with a superior teammate, or that his WHOLE style is based off M.J and he still couldn't get half as many MVP's or Defensive Player of the Year award. It's 2020, you should be seeing clearer.

@conorohara5481 4 жыл бұрын

You must not play basketball,@@JG-xt6eu. Media popularity contests mean nothing. Kobe elevated Jordan's skill-set. There is a reason why most players agree with me and would probably think you are dumb, as I do.

@conorohara5481 4 жыл бұрын

@@TurtlEfrmdaManor I don't give a fuck about what Paul Pierce or Kendrick Perkins have to say about anything.

@BigYARK 4 жыл бұрын

Kareem, Bi11, Wilt, and MJ can all be considered the GOAT

@drizzejohnson5767 4 жыл бұрын

KAreem(longevity),Wilt(stats), & Jordan(career & 2way). I will say MJ, he was best player on all 6 championship teams, but you can argue Kareem or Wilt.

@bboywolf 4 жыл бұрын

False, you need winning to be considered the best. 3 winners with stats and achievements, mike the ultimate individual and team player in terms of success/stats, russell the ultimate winner dripping in leadership, and kareem success at every level of his life and the awards

@doctoranderson2009 4 жыл бұрын

Disagree

@MrJamberee 4 жыл бұрын

Lebron belongs on any top 5 list. He’s an ass, but he is a top 5 ass.

@ErnieIsleysabeast 4 жыл бұрын

@@MrJamberee no hes not top five hrs not better than bird

@MF-Rell 4 жыл бұрын

I think he was talking about How many points scored in a game.

@jknumber5138 4 жыл бұрын

David had 71. Jordan's not 3rd

@MrHelp-yd4kn 4 жыл бұрын

"Interesting" tshirt on Salley

@John6-40 4 жыл бұрын

What is it? To my uneducated eye, it looks like a buddhist monk?

@selfishstockton6123 4 жыл бұрын

How long did Vlad have that list in the tuck? That’s obviously an old clip

@4betbluff 4 жыл бұрын

Everyone gets this wrong. Kobe was listing from 3rd to 1st. 3. Wilt 2. Me (Kobe) 1. Mike MJ was Kobe's idol.

@AllAboutTKK 4 жыл бұрын

John Bollinger bingo.

@therumbleinthejunglee 4 жыл бұрын

No he wasn't LMAO

@joeheasley8046 4 жыл бұрын

I understand John respecting jerry west but if you’re gonna go with a guy from back then guard wise that is still as good and would flourish in today’s nba that would be Pistol pete. Far better than west. Avg 44 in college. 68 in an nba game without 3s. He’s the real deal nobody can dribble or pass like him without palming it these current guys and score. Complete player. As far as Kobe John played with and against Kobe and Jordan so he’d no better than any of us biased fans