Johnny, I want to thank you for your very informative video's, I was going to buy a hub drive e-bike for $1000 and decided to do some further research when I came across your channel and seen your hub motor vs. mid drive motor comparison, I then watched your video that said the perfect e-bike is probably already in your garage and decided to do a conversion on my full suspension mountain bike that I've had for 25 years, I picked up a bafang 750w mid drive with a 48v 13ah battery for $800 from a Vegas e-bike supplier and installed it myself in less than 2 hours, the very informative video's that you put out really helped me make my decision and have been enjoying my rides every day in a very mountainous terrain in AZ for the past 4+ months, Thank's again for the awesome information and video tutorials, God Bless and thanks to all of our Veterans in the USA.

Cool stuff Johnny, can't wait to see follow up videos of the cyclone motor in action!

Johnny NerdOut is the Will Prowse of electric bikes, really knowledgeable and really into it. I feel his energy.

Johnny just bought this kit on your website. Can’t wait to install it on my Northrock XC00 fat tire. Would love a Cyclone step by step install video in the future!

"not even close to street legal" That's a good thing.

Great video and good explanation of the motor. Reading through the comments here I think a lot of people are missing the point of what this thing really is. This is not your typical run around town dart through the city ebike setup. This is a serious power motor for people that want to take their bike on dirt trails hills lots of torque very aggressive. If you're looking to just cruise around the city a decent speeds I would stick to the Bafang setup. But, if you want a serious adrenaline machine, this is your huckleberry! Different motors for different riders! 😎

Awesome Johnny!! Thanks for another great video!!

very cool. can't wait to see you add it to one of those underpowered 4 wheelers!

Thanks Jonny way to go with the new Cyclone 3000W.

Can't wait to see what you put that monster onto. Gotta have Nerd out test to validate it.

Still haven't seen anything to compare to my mid-drive build with the CYC X1 Stealth. Quite a bit smaller and much more flexibility in mounting options. Comes with programmable 5 or 9 levels of pedal assist with a torque sensor. At the push of a button you can switch between road and race mode. You can program the road mode to be street legal in whatever country you are in and when off road switch to race mode. My gravel build comes in under 55lbs with a 52V/21Ah battery. 74kph on the flats in race mode with more speed available if I switch to a 72V battery to get 2,500 watts. I also added the Box Components Box 2 eBike drivetrain and I can climb anything. And we just built a couple of folding bikes with the same motor. It fits inside the small frame triangle like a glove vertically. Most people wouldn't even realize it was an electric build, depending on battery choice. We've got a 12.8Ah rear rack battery version and a 14Ah Super Shark top tube battery option. Bikes weigh in under 40lbs. Wish I could post a picture of them. Nicest looking folding bikes on the planet. Very stealthy.

Nice teaser!! Can't wait for part two!!

Get your new business unit properly insulated. It will save a fortune in AC costs. Love the new motor btw. 😎

I have the cyclone kit from a few years ago. I'm going to get the new controller and display. My question is I'd like to install it on an adult tricycle direct to the rear axle and want to know what size chainring you would recommend? Thanks 🙏

Do these have the less noisy nylon gear or the loud metal gear? Thinking of getting it.

Wow! This looks really interesting!!!

You are hilarious!😂 Except for us nerds that know what you have in your lap, most folks would see that is as a big mess of wires and a motor, and a a lcd screen. You are too funny. You are definitely a real nerd Johnny! Your enthusiasm is contagious!😁 Please don’t kill yourself. We all know that you are not going to fire your wife! She not the assistant, you should know…..shusssss ……you are the assistant! Hopefully you’ll figure it out sooner than I did!😂

Can you install that motor on a Aventon Aventure or would you advise another?

Recently bought a micargi Seattle stretched Fat Tire Bike was looking to put a 4-stroke motor but don't want the noise can you recommend a motor kit that I don't have to peddle much but will be strong fast and battery will last. I like the kit that you put on the mountain bike with the fat tires could you direct me to maybe purchasing that one thank you

Could you still pedal with the motors mounted?

Can I build a Scorpion X with a Bafang Mid-drive, Gates carbon belt and internal geared hub instead of a derailleur? Do you know where I can find a compatible frame? Better with a cyclone mid drive.

Me Likey too ! Can’t wait for the test⚡️🚲

Thanks man

I have a Bafang and after changing the settings it has 9 levels, not 3. That Cyclone looks beefy as but I reckon it would tear my Marlin 7 apart! lol. My Luna 750w 52v is plenty enough to get me up serious hills. That thing must be made for climbing Everest!

my ebike has a battery issue, needs to be un soldered and re soldered, do you have consultation for this issue?

The motor case is still too round. It needs to have mounting support with holes so the motor can be mounted under the down tube with two U bolts.

Ship to puerto rico?

is the physical motor any different than the old 3kw cyclone???? I know they know make longer more powerful versions of that motor

Righteous, would love to see a sound comparison. my bbs02 is pretty quiet

Johnny, I have the same LCD display on my e-bike. Do you have a video on how to use various settings on that display?

I love watching your videos I wish I could have you build me a bike

Is it possible to make mid drive motors faster than advertised if you gear it differently

Still no real torque sensor....:(

Hey Johnny my name is Jeremy and I have some questions for you as I'm a rook to this and was wondering what the best way to contact so I could ask a few questions on what I should buy wise

I know your other two assistants are canines...Helper dogs...Haha...Best of luck always.

Are these much more difficult to install than the BBSHD for example or same basic process?

were are you located I want to see if I can drop off my bike

All right Johnny I have a question about gearing a bbs02 for hill climbing. I want to run a 28 tooth lekkie front sprocket for maximum torque have you ever seen someone take apart a rear cassette and move the sixth largest gears out of a 9-speed into the position of the first gear through 6th less high speed more hill climb torque. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say

Where do we find this kit? Can I add it to my current cyclone? I have an orange county chopper bike I was planning to switch it to.

Four of those, one per wheel, four wheel steering, lithium iron phosphate, four to six gears per wheel. 12 kw. total…. “Inner city delivery.”

Sweet got last one! Yeeeesz

I want a cyclone so bad!!

I'd like to see it with a built in controller.

is that a ligo battery from grim?

Hi Johnny, is this Cyclone's 3kw New single chainwheel kit, foe $409?? Great show, btw! I'm just slowly getting into it. Was gonna buy an ebike till I saw your show. Thanks once more for saving me hips of money!!

Sweet! I looked into the Cyclone. At the time, without PAS, a double chain, harder installation for a noob & more noise I went with the BBSHD. At the time e-bikes were completely banned in NYC so stealth was important too and the Cyclone is many things but not stealthy;) The Cyclone is definitely an awesome motor but to me crosses out of e-bike territory and into e-moped or e-motorcycle territory. I'm glad I went with the BBSxx motors when I did but today it would be a harder choice.

Interesting info for sure! When it comes to smoothness / gradual ramp of the throttle (power output) do you think that's the result of a good quality throttle, or is it controlled more by the controller? I've had a Cyclone for about 5yrs as well, and still struggle to get a smooth / gradual output on the power delivery.

How much weight does this add to the bike?

I emailed the guys at Lunacycle and was told they may not be continuing with the Cyclone 3000. No explanation as to why. I'd be interested to know if anyone knows what's behind that.

Ah... there's the shop ;)

whats the name of the speedometer and where do you get it, yes I bought one

*_LOOKS LIKE ITS THE SAME AS THE CYC X1 1500WATTS 36V TO 72V MOTOR, ITS COMES WITH EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE DISPLAY PANEL_*

Sorry to go back to bafang. Google what bracket size is a cannondale trail 7. Answer- BSA, 73mm, threaded, sealed cartridge. With this be an straight forward easy install? Please let me know. Thanks for all your knowledge. Bike list at $700

Is it wrong to want to put this on a BMX bike?

What about powering a catrike? Too much?

This guy is offering me a pre built cyclone 3000watt ebike build with custom two speed casset 72v 17ah panosonic sells one a specialized rock hopper for 1800 should I buy?

Thats cool and great explanation of the ebike motor, but there is a reason regular ebikes are more expensive. You really need a stronger frame, better suspension, and hydraulic brakes for that kind of power. Its not safe to install a motor like that for a regular bike.

WOW!!

I want to see this on a BMX. XD

Think you'll match it with a transmission or go direct??

Where can I buy this?

"Put this thing on a Velomobile and you could go like 40 mph" ... Lol, a velo will do 40mph with a 250w motor. You can do highway speed with a 750w. Not that I would want to that with bike level components mind you.

Is it torque sensing?

Johnny build me one

interesting 🤓

Changes everything? Sounds like a whole lot of overkill for an EBike.

Oh great. I just ordered a bafang yesterday... just kidding.

How much grunt does this motor have compared to the BBSHD? How reliable? How heavy? These are the questions.

Where does it line up cost wise vs bafang?

wanna talk to johnny look him up. friendly and sincere with a wealth of information.

ok so a new Cyclone Kit ! , where is the link to it so i can click + see + read + and maybe replace my current kit ....? FYI for those on the fence about getting a kit to electrify their ride . IMHO Hub kit are as automatic transmission cars Gas+Brake the car drives you ; Mid Drive Kit you will be able to use a bike as it was designed to that means shifting thrue the range of speeds and truly "Drive Your Bike" . Why is there no automatic motorcycle (almost none ) those are for passengers not drivers , drivers what to control and enjoy controlling the vehicle . Cheers ride safe & OUT OF CARS BLIND SPOT THEY CAN KILL YOU with a powerful e-bike you can move fast OUT of them and stay alive ;-D

Wouldn't this destroy any ebike drive train?

im crying in my stupid ass country where 250w is max :/ btw i got a 2000w on my "velomobile" and its lethal fast.

I don’t want street legal. Screw that.

A game changer? Ebikes need cast rear wheels and motorcycle chains or belts. The two weakest parts on a bicycle are the wheels and drivetrain. To use a bicycle wheel and a bicycle drivetrain for an ebike with more than 100 watts of power is a nightmare of problems and danger. These mid-drives are 750 to 1000 watts, you need heavy gage spokes twice as thick as what you have or a cast wheel and a motorcycle belt or chain. I destroy conventional bikes simply riding them, spokes break, chains and gears wear out, tires wear out, cables wear out. To put this in automobile language: who would buy a car that at 3000 miles you will have to replace 6 tires, the driveshaft, the differential, and all the wheels? And you would have had 10 flat tires by then unless you invested in tires that cost $700.00 each. Bicycles are weak, don't make high power Ebikes out of them. I am waiting for a 150-watt Motor with 5 levels of boost so I can run with just 25-50 watts. IF you want more power buy a motorcycle, it will be much safer, much cheaper, pollute less, and last much, much, MUCH longer. Ebikes today are disposable items, I have a friend from church with $3000.00 invested in an Ebike but is sitting in his garage as a brick, dead with the manufacturer out of business and no way to get a new battery. I told him he will have to buy a spot welder and build his own battery, he looked at me like I was crazy. Ebikes are not ready for consumers yet at a price or quality or value, or safety level we deserve.

Too big bulky and heavy.

30 seconds worth of content made 5 minutes

Junk display that still doesn't convey enough info. Give me a full color display with watts and remaining battery voltage. Bikes are not at all like motorcycles. They are very human top heavy. There's a reason pro cyclists have broken collar bone scars. These are freakishly talented bike handlers. They are riding with other freaks of nature on closed courses and lucky to push 30mph part of the time. If they can't handle sustained speeds above 20, the average Joe has no business pushing those bounds. It's not like all that extra power is needed to power out of a hairpin on a mtb trail and you already know how negatively all that extra weight impacts handling. So, it is a heavy, lower quality, poor handling, battery eater that is noisey....but it's powerful!