Chris Stuckmann reviews the trailer for Joker: Folie à Deux, starring Joaquin Phoenix, Lady Gaga, Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener. Directed by Todd Phillips.
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@hamoluv732 ай бұрын
Folie a Duex is a psychiatric condition where two individuals become psychotic around each other but if they are separate they actually improve mentally. Tells you a lot about the relationship dynamic in this film
@greggibson332 ай бұрын
Wow, Joaquin playing another psychotic weirdo? He's really stretching his acting talents. 😆
@hamoluv732 ай бұрын
@@greggibson33 literally the medical definition of a toxic relationship 🤡😂
@greggibson332 ай бұрын
@@hamoluv73 You didnt get the subtext (naturally). Joaquin has played a psychotic weirdo for at least 6 films in a row. Yawn.
@hamoluv732 ай бұрын
@@greggibson33 ??? I did get it…was just adding to your comment, bro. Chill 😂
@greggibson332 ай бұрын
@@hamoluv73 Sorry, dude. Guess i was the one who didn't get it. 😅
@ronaldeliascorderocalles2 ай бұрын
All the people saying that this movie changes a lot from the comics, probably never saw the first one.
@graffiti.7772 ай бұрын
I wonder if this movie will be like Sweeney Todd
@DravenG962 ай бұрын
People seem to forget that it’s an “Elseworld” story
@Softshallow2 ай бұрын
You get me. 😂
@EmperorDxD2 ай бұрын
Both changed the comics its not eveb joker
@TToanTran2 ай бұрын
Who cares what people think
@finaltouchstudio_2 ай бұрын
As a Color Grader, I can't help but admire how beautiful the color palettes are in this trailer
@mickeymoose25832 ай бұрын
As a regular guy, same
@LousySob2 ай бұрын
That's a thing?
@finaltouchstudio_2 ай бұрын
@@LousySob yeah! People think it’s just the editor but it’s a Colorist. Jill Bogdanowicz is the woman who color graded the first one and she works for Company3 - the best color grading company in the world
@FireJach2 ай бұрын
@@finaltouchstudio_ Yea, I'm tired of that gray "filter" where many movies are so bland. Grading is really important to make a movie attractive, I noticed in the american cinema history grading has its time flow.
@cooliostarstache54742 ай бұрын
As a racist, same
@adiddy9112 ай бұрын
Whoever’s idea it was to do the lipstick scene needs a raise 🗣️🔥
@vicho_85082 ай бұрын
copy paste
@jeffcunningham03892 ай бұрын
So todd Phillips
@adiddy9112 ай бұрын
@@vicho_8508 mad?
@vicho_85082 ай бұрын
@@adiddy911 yeah a lil bit, try writing something original
@meciocio2 ай бұрын
@@adiddy911try something original bro
@derekthedullard2 ай бұрын
They should've called this movie Joker 2: Ha Ha Land
@dtanobo2 ай бұрын
I've seen this joke on every single joker 2 related video now lmao
@ic3berg3392 ай бұрын
@@dtanobobut joker 2 sounds nice
@py166672 ай бұрын
Nice copy/paste job of a joke that’s months old
@ArthurKnight18992 ай бұрын
A Scar is Born
@user-hc9qv9yb9m2 ай бұрын
And Joker 3 Ha, ha, ha
@joakim32132 ай бұрын
When I saw Gaga cast as Harley, I thought to myself, "That is damn perfect casting." So much so that such a long time has passed now, that I have forgotten whether she was my dream castings even before that or not. Underrated actress. I think she is like a Scarjo type, but can go even darker and more insane in her performances. Can play the broken characters perfectly.
@trollmastermike528452 ай бұрын
I've never seen a movie with her in it that I liked. Personally, I don't go out to watch anything with her in it.
@joakim32132 ай бұрын
Might be an acquired taste. I liked a couple of her songs from the 2000s, and loved her songs in "A Star Is Born", along with her performance in it also. Thought she was really good in American Horror story too, though, I didn't love the episode. I think Joker 2 will be a turning point for her in the public eye, as an actress.
@TravisMcGee1512 ай бұрын
Never can live up to the first one.
@trollmastermike528452 ай бұрын
@@joakim3213 I heard a rumor she may kill or Phoenix may get killed and she will become the new joker. Hopefully it's not true
@joakim32132 ай бұрын
I don't think so personally. Sounds like some sort of hate campaign against her or female characters. I haven't seen it, so I can't confirm. The thing about the Joker is that he has garnered this sigma male audience that usually has problems with women, so it's difficult to trust any negative rumours spread about her and her character. It's a classic that people think the woman will overpower the man in the movie, and end up being the lead because "feminism". I think it's going to be an equal story.
@Jonathan_Collins2 ай бұрын
One thing I love about how Todd Phillips directed these movies is how each shot can be it's own screensaver. Cinematography is top notch.
@Paphatten2 ай бұрын
Shout out to Lawrence Sher as well, Todd can't have done all those beautiful setups himself.
@ultimatesunrise2 ай бұрын
Stolen comment, just saying 😂
@greggibson332 ай бұрын
I also like how he stole exact scenes from better movies and wasn't sued for copyright infringement.... now that's talent.
@dicekolev53602 ай бұрын
The director directs, the cinematographer (The DP) is the person who actually shoots a movie 🤠
@ColinHortonMovieReviews2 ай бұрын
That last shot where Arthur is smiling through Harley’s lipstick through the mirror at the end of the trailer is superb, I really hope this movie gets nominated for Best Cinematography
@etaylor80282 ай бұрын
That scene was so cringe. About as edgy as a "my chemical romance" music video.
@howiespancakeshack2 ай бұрын
@@etaylor8028 hahaha!
@MrRobertGillan2 ай бұрын
@@etaylor8028Just because you found it cringe doesn’t mean everyone else has to too
@howiespancakeshack2 ай бұрын
@@MrRobertGillan ❤️
@dicekolev53602 ай бұрын
Dude, this is a trailer, calm down 😅
@henrikwolter56242 ай бұрын
I hope the musical parts will be like Joker and Harleys own thing, like how these two freaking psychos experience love. While they burn the whole world down in utterly chaos. But from their point of view, they are just in love and have these nice moments.. setting shit on fire 🔥❤️😂
@BasketCase-rr7tx2 ай бұрын
It would make sense if the singing was all in Harley’s head. If it’s just a straight up musical that would be bizzare.
@theunknownuser96092 ай бұрын
Thats exactly what it is. The trailers shows it with them all dressed up in fancy clothes dancing on a rooftop under the moonlight and then quickly changing to reality with them in their normal clothes dancing in the middle of the street with a building on fire behind them
@lickenhuntsman53382 ай бұрын
Joker 2019 is more adult themed than The Dark Knight trilogy and MCU (except Punisher, Daredevil) Hopefully part 2 continues the legacy
@fabolousjada5070Ай бұрын
You need help buddy
@oyski2 ай бұрын
Lipstick scene is 🔥
@etaylor80282 ай бұрын
Was it though? I cringed so hard. The trailer would be so much better if they just cut out all the "drawing a smile with lipstick" shots. This movie could easily veer into "two cringey emo teenagers who think they are edgy"
@joetaylor10432 ай бұрын
@@etaylor8028ur strange
@Cold-Blooded-Jay2 ай бұрын
@@etaylor8028 No, it definitely was fire.
@delix7872 ай бұрын
Facts! 🤭
@sebastianorozco11142 ай бұрын
@@etaylor8028you’re trying too hard to be different
@agahnim01962 ай бұрын
I really wish they kept Harley being his psychiatrist rather than a fellow inmate. I feel like Harley's fall into madness, from a psychiatrist with a morbid fascination for her psychotic patient to a flat out psychopath in her own right, would have been so much more interesting in the context of this dark and brutal take on the villainous duo.
@pinkmenace24522 ай бұрын
yeah i guess we will see what they do with this
@Jonathan_Collins2 ай бұрын
Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga, the duo I never knew I needed the most. They're going to give the best chemistry duo of the year! 🙌
@etaylor80282 ай бұрын
I thought they had fabulous chemistry, but more of a friend chemistry. Like brother and sister. I didn't feel any romantic chemistry.
@Untoldanimations2 ай бұрын
the vegan and the meatdress lady
@jennikifm22 ай бұрын
I can’t wait to see this sequel!! ^^ Also I’m thinking about the song “Bad Romance” Joker and Harley in a bad romance XD
@ConnerNielsen62 ай бұрын
“It’s totally its own original vision” It also looks a lot like New York, New York: a 1970s musical that blended the grit of then-contemporary New Hollywood with 1950s artifice… about a volatile relationship between Robert De Niro and Liza Minnelli… that was a Martin Scorsese movie… that was his follow-up to Taxi Driver. Movie looks pretty cool!
@gitgoodpainting61352 ай бұрын
Given that folie a deux essentially means shared madness, it might not just be his delusion, but also hers too. Which, seems fitting, wouldn't you say?
@samuellee2572 ай бұрын
The last shot on the glass with the lipstick smile is pure genius!
@TheSt1ngRay2 ай бұрын
That last shot is my overall pick for artistic view for the next couple of years...
@yemns2 ай бұрын
phoenix and mental illness are a match made in heaven
@RSG_TheMonster2 ай бұрын
Arthur is Afraid!
@MrRobertGillan2 ай бұрын
And he nails it every damn time
@greggibson332 ай бұрын
@@MrRobertGillan That's because he isn't acting. 😵💫
@barnacleboi25952 ай бұрын
Well, his brother River Phoenix who died of a drug overdose helps with that, I can imagine. He had so much potential as a very popular up and coming actor like 20+ years ago. Too bad he went the exact way as Heath Ledger and Phillip Seymour Hoffman. So much talent. So much potential. There are a lot of side effects for talent, and that is having a bit of crazy in you.
@emilyau80232 ай бұрын
He was raised in a cult. He is comfortable being mental characters for that reason I think.
@Pupeyes2 ай бұрын
Bjork played a blind woman who kills a cop to save her son in Dancer in the Dark. It was a musical but it was mostly a movie with musical numbers. Anytime something hard was happening around her, she would retreat into her head and deal with her emotions with a musical number. One of her songs in that musical was nominated for an Oscar, which was when she wore the iconic swan dress that’s actually pretty cool but she was, of course, ridiculed for it back then.
@Mio2482 ай бұрын
I remember seeing that movie! I was about 19 years old and it came on HBO/Starz or something and I kept watching it like 3 times. It was so sad, but good.
@Pupeyes2 ай бұрын
@@Mio248 I think is still the saddest ending I’ve seen in a movie. That last song before the hatch opens 😭
@Mio2482 ай бұрын
@@Pupeyes Yeah, it was. I like the railroad song and the end credits one too.
@Pupeyes2 ай бұрын
@@Mio248 I’ve Seen it All, that’s the song that was nominated. It’s about her being content with having lost her sight because she feels like she’s seen enough beauty and horror.
@gpeddino2 ай бұрын
That’s the first thing I remembered when I saw this trailer.
@15Candles2 ай бұрын
The first Joker movie was one of the most unique movies I've seen in any comic book movie ever, I hope this sequel lives up to the hype. As a huge musical geek myself and a lover for many Broadway shows, I'm giving this sequel a chance. Didn't know a sequel was necessarily needed but after seeing this teaser, I'm so intrigued! You have my attention 🤗
@LokiturnedmeintoaFrog2 ай бұрын
Yeah, kind of reminded me of TAXI DRIVER....
@pfaloa2 ай бұрын
@@LokiturnedmeintoaFrog who cares
@DarkoFitCoach2 ай бұрын
@@pfaloapeople who know movies care. U on the other hand are clueless
@SayMyName3162 ай бұрын
@@DarkoFitCoachit was heavily inspired but presented in a different manner it’s not a big deal if it’s done right stop bashing a movie simply it takes inspiration from another film every film is inspired from each other in way or the other smh
@DarkoFitCoach2 ай бұрын
@@SayMyName316 insiprated is bit different then majorly copied. But i liked joker so all good there. But if u out it side to side with taxi driver its 90% the same
@kevinlove69742 ай бұрын
Lipstick scene is very genius 🃏
@Saul2582 ай бұрын
Shelby Oaks????? Where is the update video
@tommyg92832 ай бұрын
it looks incredible. So happy seeing gagas talent shineee!!!
@re11o2 ай бұрын
It might just be another Masterpiece
@810Metalheart2 ай бұрын
Agree 👍
@thehound13592 ай бұрын
These two could easily win best actor and actress with how talented they are.
@Gift_Salama2 ай бұрын
More of these please!
@jessiewood86762 ай бұрын
Chris doing a reaction for a trailer is my new favorite thing.
@andrewiversen83512 ай бұрын
Love this idea for a video. Excited to see more of these!!
@PepeTheFren2 ай бұрын
Brendan Gleeson! Dfck?! Thank you, I did not even noticed him. 👀
@ProfessorKenneth2 ай бұрын
The wedding clip we can see Gary as Arthur's best mate 👍🏻😄 it's cool that brought Gary back for a min or so. The teaser we saw first of Arthur in the rain, laughing/crying, I bet that's the ending. I bet he's crying/laughing because he's all alone again, because Harley dies and he's back at arkham. It's the first thing I said to me self. This trailer gave me the chills😅 I can't wait to see this. Another masterpiece right here 👍🏻
@anubhavroy23092 ай бұрын
There is no art without inspiration. The first part is definitely inspired from older movies but it's unique in its own way.
@brodyschum2 ай бұрын
Star Wars took the sci-fi/serial style of Flash Gordon and some inspiration from great directors like Kurosawa to create something audiences had not yet seen. Joker took the gritty, psycho-drama cynicism of 70s cinema and inspiration from Scorsese to create Joker. For Empire Strikes Back, something even more different had to be done, something darker with more at stake, and while there’s plenty of Harley Quinn/Joker material out there, here’s to hoping that Todd Phillips can make his Empire Strikes Back. This trailer certainly indicates just how different it may be, and I’m on board.
@DReppin20092 ай бұрын
It's giving an escape from Arkham vibe. They'll have the escape juxtaposed with all the stuff happening in his/her mind, so that it'll be happening in both realms. Those will be the real world implications.
@obmarte38032 ай бұрын
It will be in both Harley and Flecks mind. Folie a deux is a shared psychosis by definition.
@brucelau20232 ай бұрын
The color palettes and everything just totally WOW I was really blown away from this truly But the lipstick scene , man bravo
@barbarjinks81702 ай бұрын
Remember, GAGA’s character is the music therapist. Musical sequences will likely take place in HER mind.
@paradisecity0406able2 ай бұрын
I think Stuckmann pronounced the title correctly on the first try
@thealjohnsonshow21882 ай бұрын
*"The world is a stage, and all the men and women are players..."*
@Magweshi2 ай бұрын
In the first film, we (the viewers) didn't notice Arthur's viewpoint much like his neighbor. This time around, Arthur will get into his imagination and will notice a visitor, Harley 💞
@Kingsta20002 ай бұрын
Harley Quinn " Let's put a smile on that face"
@RepentantSinner862 ай бұрын
The trailer moved me. It enthralled me. It just did stuff no other trailer has ever done. I'm 100% sure this movie will be worthy of being watched on the big screen. God bless y'all
@mystikrebel10892 ай бұрын
Lipstick glass scene was amazing
@jackhackett802 ай бұрын
"Taxi Driver or King of Comedy". That was being said a lot about the film back then but no one was really mentioning the probable inspiration of Death Wish. The train scene has many similarities.
@greggibson332 ай бұрын
Yep. Phillips moto is "Steal, Steal, Steal."
@knightfallprotocol2 ай бұрын
i never actually realized that whenever you see a screenshot of an upcoming movie over and over again in so many thumbnails, by the time you see it in the movie it has no impact on you.
@sarahshere7892 ай бұрын
love your trailer reviews!!
@jayk42022 ай бұрын
Please do more trailer reviews Mr.Stuckmann.
@Artofcarissa2 ай бұрын
I was initially hesitant when I heard this was gonna be a musical, but the trailer gives off a really interesting vibe. If the musical parts are just in Arthur’s head that could be an interesting way to handle it in the movie. I’m guessing there will be a bunch of homages to sing in in the rain and old 1950’s broadway musicals
@thomaswayne18522 ай бұрын
They grabbed me with the song. Hooked me with the vibes. And sold me with that smile. I’m buying a ticket.
@HeadHeldProductions2 ай бұрын
Which "best scenes" in trailers that aren't in the final movie are you referring to? I'm curious!
@lydia16342 ай бұрын
It makes me wonder if Harley will be the one controlling Joker, like a flipped version of previous iterations
@chadwcmichael2 ай бұрын
This looks like Chicago crossed with One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, and I’m here for it.
@Jonathanest90s2 ай бұрын
I’m surprised we didn’t get a Watchmen sequel (outside of the show). But this did and I’m hyped.
@the_33rd2 ай бұрын
When is the trailer dropping for your film? If i was an investor I’d be pretty annoyed that after 2 years not a single frame had been shown…
@rosssapp69902 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved the first one and this trailer looks great! The cinematography looks even better than the first one.
@jeremyirons73672 ай бұрын
Love each other? Joker has never once given any f*cks about Harley.
@m.r48412 ай бұрын
This is a different version of
@Movieandgamefan1002 ай бұрын
He doesn't care about anyone or anything other than his own goals.
@MannySandoval162 ай бұрын
Spoiler: That’s exactly what it is. The “musical sequences” are playing inside Arthurs mind. Then he snaps back to the present aka reality. Movie continues then again we go inside Arthurs mind for another “musical sequence”. It’s a back and forth thing all throughout the movie.
@justafidemyself2 ай бұрын
This Joker is not anything like the comics and is the character in name only. That being said these are some of the best comic book movies ever.
@martinturon47992 ай бұрын
You say this one seems wholly original in comparison to the first, to me it feels like it just takes heavy inspiration from other films - first vibes I got was "Lovers on The Bridge" (Leos Carax) and "One From The Heart" (Coppola) ...
@Nanobit842 ай бұрын
This movie is gonna be awesome. We get to see how crazy these two will be both physical and mentally and I can’t wait
@MrRomanweb2 ай бұрын
To me, the only way a sequel could work to that of that first film is if it was completely different in scope and tone. A psychological musical? Yeah, that's it...this might be brilliant! Can't wait.
@KrimsonKracker2 ай бұрын
"A large portion may be in Arthur's mind"... Great, LOVED Beau is Afraid! 😎
@dereks8602 ай бұрын
This makes me want to go rewatch the first Joker. I have only seen it once in theaters & I think once on its home release.
@mkdemigodzillawarrior2 ай бұрын
One thing that I kind of wish they done was make an original song for the film from what I have heard from the choice of songs they’re using for the film. I mean, you got Lady Gaga as one of the main characters, so it really feels like they could have asked her to do one for the film.
@Kylehoot2 ай бұрын
I dont watch full movies constantly like that but I do watch scenes over and over again. I watched joker 3 times in theatre's and then another 6 times over the course of a few months. I love it that much and I still do after not watching it for a year
@rcw86822 ай бұрын
I watch a movie at the cinema and then I watch Chris's review. This is my routine. I like it.
@seseval2 ай бұрын
Yes trailer reactions ❤
@JezzaBondiBeach2 ай бұрын
Todd Phillips you GENIUS !!!
@mechasentai2 ай бұрын
I liked the first movie but I was in the minority of people who thought "it's good but not super great." I'll give it a chance. I love going to the theater but I'll be honest its not really looking amazing or anything.
@ThisIsMyFullName2 ай бұрын
I don't like musicals, but I don't mind movies having songs in them. Wonka (2023) is a great example of using music as a way to convey emotion and move the story forward. I hope Joker: Folie à Deux will do the same.
@Evan-nx9ng2 ай бұрын
Chris grew up with Joker
@AirDwindler4022 ай бұрын
Ok troll
@Evan-nx9ng2 ай бұрын
@@AirDwindler402So that's it, huh? We're some kind of troll?
@graffiti.7772 ай бұрын
@@AirDwindler402it's true tho
@Justaddblood12 ай бұрын
Chris, I could watch you talk about anything you're passionate about. Don't worry, I will always be here to watch.
@ZeroEscape20742 ай бұрын
I imagine, this movie will end up being a therapy session where Harley is talking to arthur, BUT Arthur took harley on a trip using his words and stories, that's where all the musical scene comes from, then at the end of the movie, we revert back to the doctor patient scene, arthur say something like, "Do you understand me now?", Harley smiles, movie end
@cwnhaernjqw2 ай бұрын
Chris, where is Shelby Oaks?
@TheBoxingCannabyte2 ай бұрын
It’s been unfortunately a while since I’ve visited your channel Chris but I’m very curious what happened with your movie and where I can view it
@ninetails20522 ай бұрын
That shirt is awesome man
@riccarrasquilla3792 ай бұрын
thanks for the video
@WhatShallEyeDo4U2 ай бұрын
I'm going to theorize that she is NOT crazy... And that this is all an experimental treatment that Arthur does NOT know about.
@jbogacz2 ай бұрын
Another gorgeous film and looks to be every bit as good as the first. This, along with Gladiator 2, are my most anticipated movies of 2024 with both first entries being on my favorite of all time list.
@chrisbiggs54152 ай бұрын
Liking your movie trailer reviews, Chris. I really enjoyed the first Joker movie. Not big on musicals but I’ll make an exception for the sequel. The cinematography does look amazing. Hoping this movie is just as menacing as the first.
@Riverman632 ай бұрын
If the first was inspired by Taxi Driver and the King Of Comedy, this sequel could be inspired by The Singing Detective. A story of a man trapped by illness in a hospital bed imagining he is part of a musical as a means of escape from his predicament....
@Rendezman5622 ай бұрын
the singing and dancing will 100% be all in their minds, brace yourselves for that!!!
@Kondwani_simwanza2 ай бұрын
Damn. I am getting goosebumps just watching the trailer.
@GoatLuffy_972 ай бұрын
Holy Musical Batman! I think they might pull it off.
@Nokard2 ай бұрын
Is it a full musical? Or some kind of hybrid, I loved the first movie but if it is a musical that's a pass for me.
@gqd19752 ай бұрын
I am a huge comic book fan and loved everything about this trailer.
@mr_unsuccessful2 ай бұрын
I’m ready to get back to the theater!!!!
@kitano02 ай бұрын
I've seen it speculated that the musical numbers will be used in the manner of "Moulin Rouge". I'm getting some serious "Pennies From Heaven" (Steve Martin) vibes myself.
@dalejail2 ай бұрын
@chrisstuckmann ive been following you channel since past year, I love your takes on films and your personality but I notice you mostly review popular and generally films which get wide release, I know you love the theatre experience, but id love to see you review more riskier under the radar indie or experimental films! : )
@jovan99892 ай бұрын
He stopped doing it for years. It's a safe paycheck.
@pedroesteves30182 ай бұрын
super curious for this one
@ArtofLunatik2 ай бұрын
trailer looks like a piece of art.
@13Doses2 ай бұрын
Where do you get your T shirts from Chris?
@franciscomoreno80572 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video,. ....!!!
@rhysalexander1822 ай бұрын
After watching this and Jeremy Jahns’ video, I’m very much looking forward to all the different attempts to pronounce the title of this movie!
@DeathFORcameO2 ай бұрын
I hope the film will be good. If not, well I still appreciate the risk they took to create something different with these known characters and story.
@sirprise1242 ай бұрын
@ChrisStuckmann I rarely comment but I want to know how to buy the shirt you're wearing in the video!
@jesse10082 ай бұрын
Very excited for this movie and its musical elements !! Chris I’m sure you get asked a thousand times but how the hell do we see your first film you directed ?!!!
@gentleninja49122 ай бұрын
I don't think there was a need for a sequel. The 1st one was so well done and what I took away after reading all the reviews from the 1st one, is that Phoenix Joker is the person who inspired the actual Joker. Especially because Batman is still only a kid. Hence why I don't think there was a need for a sequel..... But anyway I'll still watch it
@greenphoenix172 ай бұрын
Brendan Gleeson though! F**king yes!
@eclipses31312 ай бұрын
I would honestly love to see a musical but in a more comic book setting. Like fully accurate characters and just wacky situations and cool actions scenes
@richardwhite2921Ай бұрын
Let’s not forget that Joker won an additional Oscar for its score and Hildur is coming back for this. I can’t wait to hear her music with Lady Gaga singing it. You know there’s gonna be some epic cello music to go with her voice. Perhaps an Oscar for Song is on the horizon
@mtoboekid11mouse882 ай бұрын
As someone who's never seen taxi driver or the other movie that the first Joker was referencing, and as someone who generally likes comic book movies but doesn't have a super long history with them, I loved the first Joker movie. It broke my heart and I thought it had a lot of really important things to say. I know people get upset because in the comics he's supposed to be evil and chaotic for no reason, with no tragedy about him, but this was a much more interesting character to me and much more engaging story - I don't think you can tell much of a story from that comic book Joker's perspective, because that character never changes or grows. There's no arc there. It'd be just watching a very evil guy do insane evil things for two hours - and that's not really a story, thats the set up for a gore fest horror movie. Whatever the criticism levelled at it, i thought the first movie was an excellent tragedy. The outcome is inevitable from the start, but you're still hoping something will change. I cared about Arthur and that made it so much more awful when he still becomes someone who can only be called a villain. I loved that, even though it was emotionally devastating lol. I feel sure this second one will do likewise, so I'm very on board!