Jonathan Pollard: Israel and American Perfidy

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Machon Shilo

Machon Shilo

5 ай бұрын

Discussion between former Prisoner of Zion Jonathan Pollard and Machon Shilo's Rabbi David Bar-Hayim
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@SkillandChillParenting
@SkillandChillParenting 5 ай бұрын
Israel has to be completely self sufficient and not rely on so called allies.
@wadedavies3924
@wadedavies3924 5 ай бұрын
Israel is the biggest welfare state in the world.
@polemeros
@polemeros 5 ай бұрын
Great idea. The US should cut off all the money it sends, immediately.
@cliftonmoberg288
@cliftonmoberg288 5 ай бұрын
I have been reading "The Hunting Horse" by Elliot Goldenberg (re: J. Pollard) but the revelations here in this interview are even more interesting and helpful to know.
@helenfromen6599
@helenfromen6599 5 ай бұрын
Pollard is brilliant
@Emet9791
@Emet9791 5 ай бұрын
A must read! To Eliminate the Opiate by Rabbi Marvin Antleman
@innocentodenigbo7284
@innocentodenigbo7284 5 ай бұрын
Very very interesting.
@sherylkruger3344
@sherylkruger3344 5 ай бұрын
Agree. Thank you
@ahavahyisrael
@ahavahyisrael 5 ай бұрын
What the Americans forced on Golda Meir in 1973 , to stand down and NOT preemptively strike Egypt, didn't the Americans do exactly the same thing on Oct 7th? The information about hamas' intentions was known. What is the benefit to the Americans if Israel does not strike preemptively?
@phillipgrey
@phillipgrey 5 ай бұрын
It’s all about appeasing the Arab nations and diminishing Israel little by little. One day America will fall hard and it will be of its insolent towards Israel.
@Tshipa
@Tshipa 5 ай бұрын
Nations have interests which often conflict with those of its "friends". US at times doesnt want problems with Araba world. Because the Arabs know US has huge influence over Israel, any Israeli action they dont like, they get angry with US for not reigning in Israel. The "AID" to Israel by America buys that influence
@paulstephen3257
@paulstephen3257 Ай бұрын
But it was actually netanyahu's decision not to strike preemptively. The Americans had nothing to do with holding the israelis back in gaza before and during october 7th.
@MsJASM007
@MsJASM007 5 ай бұрын
great podcast. i am actually working on my final project on WMB Nuclear-NPT and the middle east.
@samuelbenitez4885
@samuelbenitez4885 5 ай бұрын
I agree toally
@helenfromen6599
@helenfromen6599 5 ай бұрын
These two are brilliant
@mr.richardryan7506
@mr.richardryan7506 5 ай бұрын
Soon Israel will stand alone when America abandons her. But we are with Israel and will watch as she defeats her enemies. So stay strong Israel, God is watching over you.
@augen8819
@augen8819 4 ай бұрын
Where was jahweh during auscwitz
@user-lk3bc8bo3m
@user-lk3bc8bo3m 5 ай бұрын
Are Rabbi Bar-Hayim and/or Yonatan familiar with the fascinating book by John Loftus: The Secret War Against the Jews- and have insight to please share?
@charlenemathe4050
@charlenemathe4050 5 ай бұрын
An outstanding book!!
@phillipgrey
@phillipgrey 5 ай бұрын
It’s not so secret and I have that book.
@chandanachowdhury6152
@chandanachowdhury6152 5 ай бұрын
Extremely intriguing! Amazing , the intricacies that exist in the relationship between nations! But even a layman knows how dubious is the US! At least as an Indian i am sure Pakistani is my enemy!
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape 5 ай бұрын
I'm speculating to paraphrase you by saying you as a Hindu Indian know who the enemy is... You have a population in India that would disagree with you vehemently wouldn't they?
@amitcohen3034
@amitcohen3034 5 ай бұрын
The Don't was aimed to Israel.
@Shoshana-xh6hc
@Shoshana-xh6hc 5 ай бұрын
I just read this: Biden Appoints Former Palestinian UNRWA Official as Director of NSC Intelligence.
@Avocado740
@Avocado740 5 ай бұрын
He had also appointed a palestinian as US secretary of education. But the guy resigned in protest after Biden didnt demand a ceasefire from Israel.
@lunelleoliver2437
@lunelleoliver2437 5 ай бұрын
Scott Ritter ,who is without a shadow of a doubt the best military man alive and who has actually fought in multiple wars and definitely not a titttletale would actually agree with this individual...US,like in the Ukraine , is ,if not already losing interest. Fight this alone ,Israel ,you don't need the world .
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape 3 күн бұрын
I wasn't impressed the few times I saw him and he seemed down on Israel and up on Iran His point is that the US is not dependable?
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape 5 ай бұрын
The state department position was considered arabist To call it anti-semitic is less precise The boycott of armament sales or transfers predated at the establishment of the state and was prosecuted without Mercy throughout the world In all my years of trying to figure out the liberty, the Egyptian look alike boat had never been revealed, would be curious to know if the official report did reveal that. Anti-jewish behavior within the state department existed parallel and pre-existing to the time of Jonathan and he was in the navy, all these sub departments have their own parallel adherence of ideologies that avoid reality
@user-nt4ho4ny3l
@user-nt4ho4ny3l 5 ай бұрын
The Liberty has already been thoroughly reviewed. The ussr had spies in the cia, the philby gang, the liberty was spying on Israel and transmitting the information to the cia in Washington DC, the philby gang in the CIA was then transmitting the information to the ussr embassy in Egypt and the ussr embassy gave the information to Egypt. No more Liberty 💥,
@julianzukmann2110
@julianzukmann2110 5 ай бұрын
If this is some kind of attempted nonspecific, neutralizing rational-it doesn't matter a damn.
@charlenemathe4050
@charlenemathe4050 5 ай бұрын
I felt the same way-- despite reading widely on the USS Liberty incident, I never read of a similar Egyptian vessel in the area. Much is made of the American flag clearly displayed. Perhaps it was distrusted as a possible false flag. So much at stake at the time. Pollard should publish a book on his findings, as this incident alienates so many in comments I see-- especially veterans. I appreciate your opening two lines.
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape 5 ай бұрын
His writings would be devoured by me, listening to him talk he's a bit scattered but has so many gems of knowledge... Another insight I gained today was him explaining that he was nationless in his pursuit of transferring truth, this was his own ideology which in hindsight and even at the time has been proven true as nothing that he's promoted has ever been implemented. I'm 58 and having watched this go down in my lifetime and now 10/7, Jonathan's insights at this time are priceless and I'm enjoying the Torah studies with them too. I noticed that they never reply to anyone's comments and the comments here can certainly be spicy as you noted. Rabbi Dov Fischer has a series on Israeli history that is a deep dive and full of gems. I'm sure you listen to Caroline Glick. Israel update on Rumble is a good channel too
@shlamushaaretz5357
@shlamushaaretz5357 5 ай бұрын
Fascinating Jonathan. I have a question for you; do you think a Jew who harbors nationalistic sentiments for Israel has a place in a western Army, in the country he was raised in?
@jw9597
@jw9597 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@user-nt4ho4ny3l
@user-nt4ho4ny3l 5 ай бұрын
Do you think wasp americans like former pres. Bush and Reagan accepting knighthood from the queen of England lowers their level of american patriotism? Do you think islands off the coast of Argentina belong to England?😂
@user-nt4ho4ny3l
@user-nt4ho4ny3l 5 ай бұрын
The enemy claims they are against Israel because jews are communists while the enemy likes Soviet clients Egypt libya Syria iraq plo etc😂
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