1897 Zionist Congress - read - Palestine ID as the land they would occupy -127 years ago.

So Russian, Polish, German Jews migrated to Palestine And then they started oppressing native Palestinians there.

He is incredible. gur is the smartest commentator I have found on I/P matters. He does a weekly hour on a podcast called call me back with Dan senor. I listen to every one multiple times.

@@Readinganddifference Thanks for the tip!

@@Readinganddifference It is not I/P it is I/A or more accurately I/J. P was artificially invented in July 1964, for reversing the Goliath vs David image, part of the cold war.

@@ef2718 haha ok I get you. So, what do A or J stand for?

@@Readinganddifference Arabs, Jews.

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Nothing justifies stealing other people's land, nothing and nothing justifies blowing children up, starving people, apartheid or keep on expelling people off their land. You should have visited Gaza or the West Bank. Stop genocide Free Palestine

You are a jew.

Do Jews believe in Jesus?

127 years ago and 44 years before the holocaust - 1897 The Zionist Congress.

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The Christian attitude that jews not the roman are the cause of Jesus's death. Minorities everywhere have frequently been scape coated. Jews are given unpopular jobs and are unwelcome wherever they live for millenia whether Europe or the middle east. Pogroms vary in severity and number depending on where but the Islamic messianic vision includes the murder of all jews. Jews don't accept the majority religious attitudes. Basically they are hated for being Jews

Then you need to read my comments where I explain what happened in my country Romania while the Jewry was there at the beginning of the century. There are a lot of historians, articles, books, witnesses, documents in archives who talk about what Jews were actually doing.

@@Catalina-zu8xx can you link something? I don't see any other comment by you.

I do not know but I have heard others say it is because they crucified Jesus. Jesus is the son of God for billions of Christians. They broke their promise with God to prepare the world for Jesus’ coming so they are no longer the chosen people even though they still believe they are. Or perhaps jealously because they are successful business people. Maybe both combined.

they are very crafty at writing propaganda.

Haviv is made a mistake. The first leader to bring the Israelis back to independence in Israel was Prophet Moses AS, he was the first Zionist leader, some 3300 years ago. The second in importance was Ezra the scribe 538 BC.

"If you don't follow the law, you'll get into a fight."

Exactly, Haviv is wrong.. The first leader to bring the Israelis back to independence in Israel was Prophet Moses AS, he was the first Zionist leader, some 3300 years ago. The second (in importance) was Ezra the scribe 538 BC.

Genuine question - if the Israeli Jews are mostly Arab? Why do they speak of the “Arab” palestenians with so much distain. Why did Miko peled and other Israelis say that they grow up called palestenians “the Arabs of Israel” 🤔 it’s just interesting right, if ur Arab yourself why are you isolating a group amongst ur population as Arab Israelis…. Could it be this guy is talking nonsense and the truth is Israelis are not Arab at all and KNOW it. They’re all white Europeans

@@tjc4085 um, I guess id suggest you visit Israel. Or, less commitment, even watch an episode of Fauda. There's a hell of a lot of brown Jews. I mean this isn't an unknowable thing right? But if you just think the Israeli puppet masters are all white and kinda Bennetton ad-ed their way into this fantasy, I'd say that's, well, pretty bigoted. Which I'm sure isn't what you were going for, but sometimes we're the baddies.

​@@tjc4085 Eastern European Supremacy. Ashkenazi Jews get a pass for being incredibly racist because they weaponize the holocaust.

​@@tjc4085900,000 jews were expelled from the surrounding Arab nations from the 1940's through to the early 50s. That's why there are barely any jews in the surrounding Arab nations. Some of these jews came from African nations as well such as Ethiopia and are blacks. Moreover, the jews in Europe were never considered as indigenous to Europe. That's why there was so many discriminatory laws, pogroms, expulsions and finally the holocaust. So the jews in Europe decided it was time to return to their homeland that they were expelled from by the Romans. Perhaps you need to get off tik tok sound bites of nonsense and read history books.

Thank you for apposite post 👌

And yet Einstein was a Zionist, and raised money for the state of Israel.😊

Ha! Tell it to the Arabs!

@@shainazion4073 Any proof of that???? Or is it again Israeli propaganda!

And then when the Moslems decide they don't want the Jews around anymore? And did Einstein really believe that the Moslems would share power with the Jews? Do you believe the Moslems would have? Just curious - would you cite the source please for the Einstein quote?

«Einstein’s support of the Zionist movement and his interest in the Hebrew University were lifelong. He quarreled with Weizmann more than once; he was highly critical of the Hebrew University and, in particular, of its first president; he deplored the shortcomings of Zionist policy toward the Arabs; but he never abandoned his belief in the central principles of Zionism. If young people (or others) today, whether Jews or gentiles, who, like the young Einstein, abhor nationalism and sectarianism and seek social justice and believe in universal human values-if such people wish to know why he, a child of assimilated Bavarian Jews, supported the return of the Jews to Palestine, Zionism, and the Jewish state, not uncritically nor without the anguish which any decent and sensitive man cannot but feel about acts done in the name of his people which seem to him wrong or unwise, but, nevertheless steadily, to the end of his life-if they wish to understand this, then they should read his writings on the subject. With his customary lucidity and gift for penetrating to the central core of any issue, whether in science or in life, Einstein said what had to be said with simplicity and truth. Let me remind you of some of the things he said and did, and in particular of the path which led toward them.… www.nybooks.com/articles/1979/11/08/einstein-and-israel/

127 years ago 1897Zionist Congress -44years before ho lo cáustica - they ID Palestine for invasion.

It has to be stressed for people who do not live in the middle East, because most people don't know that Arab muslims kill other Arab muslims.

no justification to engage in genocide if Palestinian children & women. It is not a war.

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right and duty.

To that point, I would dare anyone who believes that Palestinians suffered 74 years of compassion from the Zionist state of Israel, to convert to Islam and go live in Gaza or Hebron for two weeks in a Palestinian house. Only in this way you will get to know this compassion first hand. Bless ❤

@@Catalina-zu8xx The old community of Jews that used to live in Gaza perished in Islamist riots of 1929, concurrent with dozens of other communities, the massacre in Hebron was documented, you can see the photos of that ISIS style massacre in archives of the NYT. Photos like the gut churning photos of the massacre of Oct. 7 only in black and white. *In 1929 the massacres were committed mostly by mobs. 1929 is 19 years before the reinstitution of Israel, 38 years before Israel got into Gaza strip, 37 years before the process of appropriating the title Palestinians by Arabs has even started.

You clearly learn from comic books.

@@khubza8999he is not a good historian?

@@charlesedwards5333 If I remember your name correctly I asked you on another video where you had seen Hativ speak about this, managed to find it myself, thanks for the tip, was well worth it.

Page 7 & 8 of the report mentions it.

Apparently that is too much to ask for. Appalling this blind slogan shouting going on.

Both sides: Arabs against Jews Muslims against Jews 21 Arab countries against Israel 56 Muslim countries against Israel Islam vs. Judaism Shia vs. Sunni Iran vs. Turkey vs. KSA vs. Egypt USSR/Russia vs. USA East vs. West Partial list of drivers of this conflict

MS St. Louis ship

And the Hadids who claim to be Palestinians - but they are Americans !!

The majority of Israelis are descendants of refugees who fled to Israel from Arab countries, you can right away understand they can not get passports of countries that expelled their ancestors.

I am so sorry.

The difference between the two is that Israel has >25% citizens that are not Jews while in Jordan, in Gaza and under the Palestinian authority there are no Jews and by law selling a property to a jew carries a death sentence. Every person in the world wants to live in peace, however, for some tribal societies peace is what one's tribe achieves by eliminating rival tribes.

Teach the children a bunch of BS? These guys are basically saying most of Israeli Jews are Arab and not European settlers 😂 do you know how funny that is. Just take a peak at Israelis.

And people are more ignorant than ever, unfortunately

@@lalalalalalalala709 Educated by 15 sec videos on social media.

I can confirm that the Romanian state had the same politics regarding Jews at the beginning of the century, despite The Nazi regime of Germany and the Horty regime of Hungary.

63BC Roman’s invaded Palestine - it is their ancestral land.

From the camel's mouth, before these leaders understood that flapping their lips might come to bite them in the behind in future.... "There is no such country as Palestine. Palestine is a Zionist invention"... 1937 Awni Bey Abdul Hadi "There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history, absolutely not.”...Prof. Philip K. Hitti, distinguished Arab historian, author of the authoritative book "The Arabs", testifying at the 1946 Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry. "Such a creature as Palestine does not exist at all...." Ahmad Shukeiri 1956 "The Palestinian people do not exist...". Zuheir Mohsen (31 March 1977 - interview: “Wij zijn alleen Palestijn om politieke reden,” James Dorsey, Trouw) “A state named ‘Palestine’ has never existed.”...Hafez al-Assad, Syrian President, at a conference in Amman in 1987 "Brothers, half the Palestinians are Egyptians, the other half are Arabs...." Palestinian Minister Fathi Hammad - In a speech broadcast on Egyptian Al-Helma TV on 23 March 2012 "Jordanians and Palestinians are one people living in two states" .... "Mahmoud Abbas" - 20 Oct 2016

Only if they will not betray and disobey Him by becoming hateful killer settlers in Israel.😅

And other peoples don't?

@@1234singer most Americans don’t.

Well , Maby Europeans do as well as ex refugees​@@Hakeem357

@@1234singer The majority of Israelis are descendants of refugees who fled to Israel from Arab countries, you can right away understand they can not get passports of countries that expelled their ancestors and define them as citizens of an enemy country.

But lets also not forget to mention Soros, Gates, Rothschild, Rochefeller, Epstein, Woody Allen, Scovel in the UK, that Hollywood pimp called Swine...or something similar, the warmonger in the US who died recently....and had dedicated his life to destroy other countries and to change regimes. Etc...

Read Avi Shlaim's memoir. The Farhud was not all from Muslim Iraqis...

THAT IS NOT TRUE. JEWS IN IRAQ WERE NOT WILLING TO MOVE TO ISRAEL FOR THEY WERE CONTENT BUT LITERALLY THE ZIONIST FORCED THEM. JEWS WERE ALWAYS SAFE IN THE MUSLIM WORLD.

There are lots of so called facts and then beliefs. Mostly I'm just saddened that they want oppression and slaughter over peace for all. Convincing self that all palestians Wang to wipe israel off the map. River to the sea means lots of things depending of what u believe. I don't personally like the chant cos it's to much a hot potatoe

The Naqba means "catastrophe" in Arabic. This word had nothing to do with the Arabs that fled the land because of the war they started. The Naqba (catastrophe) was that 5 Arab armies could not win against a ragtag group of Holocaust survivors all speaking different languages, with 1 gun for every three men. The Naqba (catastrophe) was that the Jews bought malarial swamps and rocky deserts and made these lands bloom, when the Arabs could not. What is called the Nakba today, didn't happen the way they pretend. *The Institute for Palestine Studies,* an Arab organization based in Beirut stated, *68% of Arabs left their villages without ever seeing a Jewish man with a gun or a soldier* Search, *_"How we really became refugees, 13 Palestinians tell their personal stories"_* Mamoud Abbas and 12 others from all over Israel, tell the truth about why and how they left the villages and houses and it wasn't because of the Jews!

The Indigenous people of the land are the Jews. The Jews are the descendants of the Israelites and Hebrews. All the diaspora Jewish communities still show 50% of ancient Canaanite DNA even after 2500 years of diaspora. The Jews speak the Only Canaanite language still in Use today. The Jews worship the Canaanite God YHWH and el. The Palestinians do not have an indigenous language, Arabic is not indigenous to Canaan. The Palestinians are 98% Muslim, the Islamic religion is not indigenous to Israel/Canaan. The God of the Palestinians is Allah, the Pagan Moon God of Arabia, not of Canaan.

Firstly, "nakba" actually originally referred to the Arab failure to destroy the state of Israel in 1947. You need to read the Arabic press of the time to understand this. Secondly, some 700,000 Jews were ethnically cleansed from Turkey (Smyrna was a flourishing Jewish community!), Morocco, Iraq, Syria, Iran.. and came to Israel. These Jews, it has been calculated, left behind land and property some four times the size of the newly created state of Israel. Thirdly, atrocities were committed by both sides. Fourthly, The Arab Palestinians got the lion's share at Partition - Greater Palestine (that is, Jordan, Lebanon, Southern Syria). Read the words of Zuheir Mohsen who admits this : "The Palestinian people does not exist … there is no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese", though Palestinian identity would be emphasised for political reasons. In a March 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw he stated that "between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese there are no differences. We are all part of one people, the Arab nation [...] Just for political reasons we carefully underwrite our Palestinian identity. Because it is of national interest for the Arabs to advocate the existence of Palestinians to balance Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons...

The Muslim brotherhood

Obviously, Israel created Hamas, we all know Islamists do not have free will, incapable of creating terror groups and are easy to manipulate, especially by Jews they hate so much.

The first leader to bring the Israelis back to independence in Israel was Prophet Moses AS, he was the first Zionist leader, some 3300 years ago. The second in importance was Ezra the Scriber 538 BC.

Envy and hatred. Other people couldn't be like Jews

Because of the Churches influence on the population! The Church taught hatred of the Jews Because they said the Jews killed their god, Jesus.

It all begins with the Christian hatred of Jews and the accusation that Jews killed God.

There was no 700,000 Arabs kicked out by anyone, the proof from Arabs show. *The Institute of Palestine Studies,* an Arab organization based in Beirut said, *68% of Arabs left their villages without seeing a Jewish man with a gun or a soldier.* Search, *_"How we really became refugees, 13 Palestinians tell their personal stories"_* Mamoud Abbas and 12 others tell the truth about how and why the Arabs fled their houses and villages, and it wasn't because of the Jews.

It’s my understanding that quite a few Palestinians have dual passports and use them. Maybe you can ask the Palestinians who you know about that to find out more. And your attempt at a gotcha wrapped in multiple versions of the same uneducated question, lacks the nuanced understanding of Jewish/middle eastern history to be able to cut into this topic any sharper than a butter knife. And it’s not respectful.

@@OffbeatsMusic ​​Thank you for replying, I’m assuming you’re educated and knowledgeable and that’s the best you can answer?!?! I feel you’re just twisting my questions were for honorable speakers who claimed to have dual passport, and for your reference I would ask the same if the claim was from a Palestinian. If you don't know the answer, I have no appetite to have further conversation with you. Peace.

Greater Palestine is Jordan, Lebanon and Southern Syria. So the Palestinians already have their country. Israel itself is intrinsically the heartland of the Jewish people. There is archeological evidence to prove this, dating thousands of years ago. The Jews reluctantly accepted the portion given to them, the Arab Palestinians did not, wanting all or nothing, and as a result, they have nothing.

@@TMF78The reply to your question was in the interview itself. About 60 plus percent of the Jewish population of Israel are Middle Eastern Jews, who had to flee their original countries. They became refugees. Their lands and possessions were taken. None of them have passports of Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Syria and so on. NONE. And no one ever champions their “right of return”, for some weird reason. It’s only the special Palestinian flowers that deserve such special right I guess? Like they deserve the right to be the only hereditary refugees in the world, too? Because the Jewish refugees of same time period didn’t get to pass the refugee status to their children for some very weird reason - only Palestinians get that right. Very very interesting, wouldn’t you say?

And, if you repeatedly start wars against Israel and lose, sorry, but you don't get to have a dual passport...

What a racist comment!!! God is for all people because God does not discriminate! 😢🙏

God punished Jews for their wicked ways and told them they should wander the Earth in order to wash their sins until He would allow them to settle. The true Jews who follow GOD's word are the ones who did not listen to $4T4N who told them it is ok to steal land and opress and kill innocent indigenous people of the Palestinian land. And this was explained by a very well known Rabbi in a recent interview on KZfaq.

"Most Zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe that he promised them Palestine" Ilan Pappe.

​@@lenacohen8913 The fact that they don't believe in divine does not change history or the fact that their ancestors believed. Ilan Pappe is playing with words.

And what of the ills of racism?

Which country has no racism. Which one? Israel is not perfect but its high time the Jewish people had their own country and they have had for thousands of years

@@makhorubhiyo4053why?

To me Israel 's Basic Law is based on ethnocracy, not true democracy.

​@@Johnnigstompbecause they do a damn better job of it than you would do over there