Heard a great quote once: "Men are mean to each other but dont really mean it. Women are nice to each other but dont really mean it."

Like my mom always say, "be careful around women." Best mom.

I'm an engineer. Once, while in the field, a female engineer did something so excruciatingly stupid that it almost got three guys killed. Since I was in command at the site I completely flipped out and read her the riot act just like I would read it to a man, expletives and all. She broke down, started crying, called me a bully and ran out of the room. The rest of the team, all males, gave me a standing ovation. The next day I fired her ass. She filed a discrimination complaint but HR just laughed at her.

If I wanted to destroy a society I think the present way we are doing things should do it.

Couldn't help but laugh when he said "women are more agreeable than men" and Camille is nodding her head in agreement.

Women don't care about your struggles, they hang out at the finish line and pick the winners.

Every woman I've worked with spend most of their time backstabbing any other woman in the group that's not present.

I worked as a bouncer for about 6 years. I can honestly say, that around 50 % of all the physical conflicts that I intervened in between males are instigated by women. It really is absurd.

Women don’t end conflict, they’ll just remind you they’re still mad about that statement from 5 years in a passively aggressive way...

Makes me feel better about turning my back on women and modern western society.

“When forced to answer the question, ‘When should a man marry?’ the wise man replied, ‘A young man not yet. An old man not at all.’ “ Sir Francis Bacon

Wish I knew this 20 years ago. I wasted years of my life trying to make women happy, especially at work, till I realised some of them simply never will be happy with anything men do at work, even when the mans actions are 100% correct.

Woman: "Yes! I keep my promises, unless of course...I change my mind."

'Women are more agreeable'??? I nursed for nearly 20 years, I tell you now that they'd eat each other if they could.

The issue is that men like fair game and competition, not quotas, lies and false accusations...

not the happiest day of my life, but pretty close : the day my ex divorced me....the peace and freedom just flows...I ignored some red flags before we got married, and this stupidity came back to bite me hard...... and our courts are anti husband all the way

Women create drama and conflict when things are dull. All my life, I've seen them fume and outrage endlessly over the tiniest, stupidest things.

"Mostly you're supposed to avoid it." Truth

“Reputation Demolition’. You nailed it Mr. Peterson. Women’s bullying is far more damaging and million times more vindictive than men’s bullying. While men’s bullying is more physical, women’s is psychological and emotional including passive aggressiveness.

Joshua from War Games answered our women question years ago. A STRANGE GAME. THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY

When men interact with men there is an additional layer of respect and caution because of the possibility of physical conflict. When women interact with men there is none of that.

1. "I'm an excellent housekeeper. Every time I get a divorce, I keep the house." 2. "There is nothing wrong with a woman encouraging a man’s advances, as long as they are in cash." 3. “I know nothing about sex, because I was always married.” 4. "I want a man who's kind and understanding. Is that too much to ask of a millionaire?" 5. "I never hated a man enough to give him his diamonds back." 6. "A man in love is incomplete until he has married. Then he's finished. " Zsa Zsa Gabor

A conflict with a woman: ignore the conflict, ignore the woman ... it's gonna be a waste of your valuable energy and time.

He's got it right. We men are now just avoiding the endless and un-winable conflict, i.e. MGTOW.

Peterson.....it's not that men don't know how to compete with women, we are not allowed too. The deck is deliberately stacked against us and our futures can be taken away from us in a heart beat by a single accusation. Collage and University Campuses are a dangerous place for men and men know it.

I bailed out and I have no intention of going back. A whole lot of men are MGTOW and the number of MGTOW is going to increase and increase all the while the feminazis and tradcons are left scratching their heads. #MGTOW

It's just not worth it. It's a lose-lose situation. At the end (divorce) you lose it all. It was a huge mistake thinking that I needed to have a wife, at all! I have peace of mind, now.

Listen feminists, men and women are not the same.

Hahah, men: "we'll have a fistfight and 10 minutes later we'll have a beer." So true.

As a man among men, if you want to contribute, you have to stick up for yourself. If you stick up for yourself and you're right, you earn respect. Many women don't do well in that situation.

So what you're saying Dr. Peterson is that men should be allowed to hit women so they could both have a beer after? - Probably Cathy Newman

I once accidentally bumped into a girl on a train while passing by and she called me a blind idiot. I was so relieved that day that she didn't call me a molester or something lol When I got off the train, I partied hard in celebration of escaping that situation which could possibly have become a tragedy for me.

Spot on. I served in the Navy and came to blows a few times with my shipmates. that night we would be best oppos and buy each other a drink. Women would fall out and not resolve it for the entire deployment. There were about 40 women in a 500 crew, and most of the issues in the lower decks came from them.

nearly every jobb I've had, I've had a woman for a supervisor. one or two were decent to work for, in the whole tho, in my experience, I was micromanaged and stabbed in the back time and again. if not from my female boss, then by female coworkers. not saying all women are bad, because they're not, but most women I've encountered in the workplace (again except a few) were terrible. they didn't know how to supervise, played favorites and poo-pooed creativity. I'm just ranting, I don't have any proposed solutions, but it's interesting to me. I work in a place with all other men, my boss is a man and it's RELAXED. no micromanaging. no backstabbing. no one talking to me about professionalism if I belch, no one nitpicking me if I breathe wrong. and ity NICE. Take that fir what it's worth

Dr. Camille Paglia is such a refreshing change from some of the other interviewers Jordan has had. She is a really great conversationalist, and listens well while adding to the conversation instead of just putting words in his mouth.

Frankly Scarlet, Men don't give a damn.

The problems between men and women arise primarily because we have different forms of communication. Men prefer to communicate OVERTLY. That is what we are respected for. Honesty, straight to the point, no beating around the bush, meaning what you say, saying what you mean. That is what earns men respect with other men. Women on the other hand, prefer to communicate COVERTLY. They are more obsessed with what feelings the communication entices, and what are the subtle messages and information bits that you are sending. They try to explore the "emotional aspects" of communication, instead of focusing on the message. Now when you have two forms of communication clashing, this causes a problem. Seeing as the western society is mostly fem-centric, all kinds of overt, masculine communication are seen as potential bullying, as Peterson says. Why? Because women want to attach an emotional connotation to your ACT of delivering the message, rather than the content of the message. Thus, if they feel threatened by your message, even if it is 100% accurate, factual, and truthful you get labeled as a bully. The society has adopted this schema, and that is why men are getting attacked by society. Further more, females expect that you are OVERT in your communication when you inform of your intentions, actions etc...HOWEVER they reserve their "right" to change their mind, to be unknowable, mysterious, with their words. The so called "female prerogative". They CAN hide their intentions, but if we as men do so, then we are thought of as less than men. Essentially, women hijack the male concepts of honor and honesty, to suit their own imperative. Think carefully how and what you communicate with women.

As a man, I was rejected by the system LONG ago, then I became a Metalhead, REJECTED college, went to Community College for welding, I am currently a machinist, looking to be a welder and listen to my music happily ever after.

Men aren’t bailing out, as such,...they're being driven out... to the detriment of everyone’s well being and happiness...no one wins.

Every time I meet a girl, I go thru a lifetime with them in my head and I cannot get away quick enough with most. 🤔

Men are dropping out for a lot of reasons. Peterson's boomer analysis doesn't factor in the amount of sex partners women 18-35 have before marriage, which is one of the biggest predictors of divorce. If marriage is too risky, men will just seek sex or masturbation. The sexual revolution has destroy the incentives for family formation, which was one of the spurs for men to compete with other men. Now the risks outweigh the rewards.

I love how smart people get excited when they get to talk with other smart people.

This reminds me of a argument I got into with so guys in a bar. They were going to try and kill me at one point, bottles and ash trays ready to bash my head in. We all got kick out of the bar and when where outside, we started to complain about the doormen and went to the next bar for a beer. It makes no sense, but that is just who we are.

I don't talk over anyone. "I like to let people talk who like to talk. Makes it easier to see how full of shit they really are." - - Jackie Chan

I'm one of those men. I dated a girl for a couple years and I supported her during our relationship when we found out she had cancer. She was seeing another guy behind my back, her new "best friend" of 2 months. I didn't find out until after we broke up and that she left me for another, different, guy, who turned out to be a best friend of a previous ex. I don't trust most women, and I will never subject myself to that bullshi+ ever again.

the only way to win is do not play at all.

Marriage is like a Tornado: "In the beginning there's a lot of blowing and sucking, Then you lose your house".

His daughter was the target of conspiratorial bullying where other girls spread false rumors on the internet to blacken her name. Yet these days we are supposed to believe all woman who scream sexual allegations online. How are we suppose to believe that these allegations are true when its common knowledge that woman smear the enemy's name on the internet as a form of bullying/revenge.

Very interesting topic and also very relatable. In college I found that I was looked down upon by women in some way or another as being psychologically and emotionally inferior. It's very uncomfortable

At the end when he speaks about "what the hell are you supposed to do?" in conflicts with women, it makes me think about relationships with women at my workplace... There are a couple real bitches that work there that get away with the nastiest behavior imaginable. A frequent comment from the men is that, "If she had a dick, she'd get punched in the face every day", or something along those lines. Men tend to be more respectful of eachother's identity and space for the simple reason that we can more easily compete with one another without coming across as bullies.

Finishing my third Duke degree right now (doctorate, master’s, bachelor’s). The Duke lacrosse case was my freshman year and I was told repeatedly that my voice didn’t matter because I’m white and male. I continued studying because there are still many excellent profs around, but I’m very apprehensive about devoting the rest of my life to academia. Peterson gives me hope.

Conan had it all figured out: "The best life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the Lamentations of the women!"

Jordan: "women are more agreeable than men" *woman nods head in agreement*

Women are agreeable when they are of equal and lower status, but when they are of higher status, there is contempt, especially if it is their man.

Reputation demolition. That is a brilliant observation. I’ve seen my mother employ those tactics. No way in hell I would EVER chose a woman like that.

Men and Women love each other in very different ways. Men love Women for who they are. Women love Men for what they can provide. The End.

Women are taught they can do what ever they want, men and taught they have to learn to cerb their natural instincts. As a result men find life simpler by bailing.

His entire interview with her was fantastic.

And what about male bonding, playing in a friendly game of basketball with people he doesn't even know! That is not combat. Have you ever walked into an office filled with woman that is combat!!!

Do your own thing. Don't put too much thoughts into the power dynamics between men and women. Of course there are negative people out there from both genders. Just be highly-selective with whom you spend your time and energy on and you'll do fine.

There isn't a woman alive who won't grow contemptuous of a man she can dominate - no matter how important it is to her to dominate him. Doesn't matter how she does it - with looks, money, position or sex - once she gets the upper hand it's only a matter of time before she despises him. If you know that up front, you're light years ahead...

Peterson reckons women have "a desire to avoid conflict." That will come as news to most men in a relationship with a woman.

Google disgraced itself when it fired James Damore for telling the truth. Damn them to hell for that. I hope Damore wins in court.

I wish JP would be honest about women and stop sucking up to them so much.

I love your channel. It's great. Nice little bits of positive information! Not too over bearing, or discouraging. Keep doing what you're doing!!! ;).

My favorite bumper sticker I saw years ago: " If Women ruled the world, there would be no more wars. There would be just a bunch of countries refusing to talk to one another. "

Three things to avoid at a young age in order from bad to worst 1. Alcohol 2.Drugs 3.Women So you can focus on life

By abandoning marriage, work and education men are acting rational. These institutions come with high risk but very low rewards so men are dropping out all together. Marriage has a 50% divorce rate with women initiating most of the divorces. Men however are still required to pay to maintain their lifestyle, pay for a house they don't live in and pay for children they can't see. THAT'S A BAD DEAL. These days most companies expect you to work hard long hours for low wages and little to no benefits. Plus they can cut your hours or dismiss you whenever the economy slows down or dismiss you and move overseas so they can maximize their profits. THAT'S A BAD DEAL. College these days requires taking on huge loans which you will not be able to get rid of for your entire life no matter how much you pay back. Plus as you graduate the jobs we were promised are no longer there. The only ones you can get are low paying or temporary gigs which have no benefits. THAT'S A BAD DEAL. So men are not stuck on some peter pan syndrome or failing to launch or whatever bullshit these clowns call it. Men are just recognizing these institutions are a bad deal and walking away.

" If you win you a bully, if you lose you are bloody pathetic" Jordan Peterson A strange game theory 😂

I disagree that men don't respect each other and that everything is a form of combat. He even says himself later in the video that even after a fight men can be friends again.

Women argue on an emotional level they want you emotionally wound up. When you’re calm and collected they can’t get you emotionally wound up therefore you win. That’s why they bring up stuff from as far back as birth any means necessary. When you don’t take the bait and stay logical you win every time

I think parents have a very vital part in this. If you grow up with a mother who’s a feminist let’s say. You will be told to treat women with way too much respect, so they basically just run over these beta men. Then those beta men just stay with a feminist, because that’s who he thinks women are. And is totally in a controlled relationship, the amount of times I’ve seen this happen in crazy

I think I first heard Karen Straughan say this: There is no socially acceptable way for a man to defend himself against a woman.

The clip immediately starts off with Peterson describing women as "scoring reliably higher than men" in several positive categories. But you can see he takes the trouble to avoid this kind of language in the reverse. He doesn't flat out say "men are better at conflict resolution than women"; instead he goes through soft mental gymnastics to try to describe this as some sort of lateral difference at best. With the caveat that the female approach is more complex while men are simpletons. This tendency to woman-worship is so pervasive and palpable. Two intellectuals discussing gender should acknowledge and discuss it, not practice and ignore it.

I'm a 53 y.o. man. I like JP. I confess, however, i have had little desire to fight with other men to get my point across or get to the top. A lot to process in a comment section.

Do not water down our masculinity men, even though we are perceived a bully, a manipulative women will take advantage of that perceived weakness..

Men are opting out because we are sick of the bullshit and no matter what we do and foe whom, we are wrong. Fuck it! I'll stay in my world and be right....and successful.

"Women are more agreeable than men" You clearly haven't met my wife. lol.

Just learn to have civilized arguments with everyone and organizations should never reward a bully.

The only way to win, is to not play the game.

"... and men are more interested in things." Yeah, see, that kinda stops as soon as the guy wants to place his huge speaker system in the living room or wants to move a cushion.

My mother hated the kind of women being described here but hell she was a war survivor went through 2 years of bombing between the ages of 12 to 14 was tough as nails didn't take shit from anyone. When she first came to America after WW2 she thought most of the women here were self-entitled snots who acted like royalty and that was in the 50's. She would've held today's western women in total contempt.

🤣 🤣 🤣! Spot On! Avoid conflict with women! How? Avoid women!

Time will correct the balance of nature soon enough.

There are two revolving doors in women's lives.. one is the HR department and the other door is between their legs.

The "bailing out" has a financial component, that may be more important. 1. College has become both expensive, and less useful. Why spend $100,000 on degree, when you can start a business instead? Universities were created after WW2 to supply companies with middle managers. The flattening of company organizations have reduced the need for middle managers. 2. The route to success is now being your own boss, having a technical skill, owning a company, being independent. A degree is not needed for any of that.

Two of the contemporary intellectuals I admire most having a conversation. Wonderful.

That's why MEN are supposed to be in charge!!! They can actually SOLVE issues.

Respect has to be earned intellectually. Men have to hold back their intellect in the workplace for fear of bullying so they are steering clear of communication with women, and now even in relationships men are fearful hence why many men are no longer entering relationships. Just like Jordan said men are choosing to "avoid it."

Marriage is too scary for men. We could lose everything we worked for, children, and owe for the rest of our lives. Until the court systems change things, it just isn't worth it.

The eagerness to conclude who wins in a Men vs. Women in the comment section is mind-blowing. And also suggestive of the maturity of the fans. There definitely is some truth in these statements but no body is caring enough to understand 'why' and daring enough to 'own' the fact that WE still need each other to run this world. . Simple tools you can use to widen your perspective - an objective look at history to understand, empathetic observation of present and faithful believe in the future to accept. . Those who understand will understand this.

Peterson's vocabulary is on another universe 💯🖤

Men and women evolved to occupy different social spaces, not the same one. We now have to operate in the same social space and, basically, it's a damn mess now

I love Jordan, but his view on male bailing out on academia seem to be a little off to me. To begin with, academia appears to be flooded with SJW's and feminists, who reject and ridicule anyone with opposing viewpoints. After all, people like James Demore and Jordan Himself, have become "famous" due to expression of opposing viewpoints, and the subsequent reactions by authoritative bodies. Secondly, there appears to be an anti-male rhetoric in academia and the public in general. For instance, where feminism in the past has brought awareness to female issues the males issues have had limited forum for discussion. In this day and age however, forms of covert misandry (male hatred), have become overt. Hence terms commonly used such as, patriarchy, toxic masculinity, and white male privilege. I wonder how academic bodies would react if the term "toxic femininity" was used, or an opinion against affirmative action was expressed in stem. For that matter are these organizations in the slightest bit aware on the effects on developing boys who have not thought of nor developed opinions. After all, they are constantly being told they are harmful (toxic masculinity), that they are oppressive (patriarchy etc.) and they need to change, while issues which they may have are ignored. This leads into my last point. The young male in this day and age is faced with a major challenge. To begin with a large number of boys have limited contact with positive male role models. Either as a result of a broken home, or the majority of school teachers being women. In addition, it is likely that at least some teachers have some form of misandry (covert or otherwise) after being educated through the above mentioned systems. Finally, none of these issues are addressed, these boys have no voice, and their concerns of which they remain unaware are swept under the carpet, as they are exposed to a media in which if they are to be acknowledged at all, it is to be as some sort of predator, oppressor, or buffoon, while the same media implies that female can do no wrong. All of this leads to negative affect, and dissociation from academia and society at large for boys and men. And if there is any form of bullying it appears to be mostly against the masculine. After all, males in university have been a declining minority for decades, yet the most common issue voiced is the lack of women in stem fields, not the lack of men over all, in a system claiming to promote equality, while condoning an anti-male rhetoric as mentioned above.

This is dead on right. I have been taught to avoid women whenever possible, because there is no way to get a point across without either being "confrontational" which is bad, or ignored. Well why should I ever bother talking to someone who is either going to dismiss me, or accuse me? There is nothing worse than being around a woman manager, and even other women employees will tell you this. It sucks.

Women want the rights of men, not the responsibility.

Upstaging women is the best method I’ve discovered. Does not resolve the problem completely but extremely effective.

Women are DEFINITELY not more agreeable. If a man does not OBEY this wife, she punishes him for YEARS over something minor.

Take this for what it's worth. My mother immigrated from Holland when she was 18 in 1946. By 25, she married my dad, and 'lead' him into opening several restaurants over the years. From there, they opened a real estate company and reached #1. Dad was the salesman, or what you would call front man. Very good looking, had the gift of the gab, but needed direction. Mom was in the background pushing him. Her 1 piece of advice that always stood out was "Chris, watch out for women today, they're all bitches." She knew it 40 years ago, having lived through WW2. I never forgot it and was lucky to marry that 1 in 100. she was the smartest person I've met in my life, and helped me open multiple retail locations across Canada with my own business.

I quit women and I choose me instead. No more dating. No more conversations. Nothing. It's a women's world and guess what? You can HAVE IT. I am fine living in a small little room with my pup working by myself making pennies. I choose this happiness over the reality chosen with you.