WORST SEAT ON ITALY'S NEW ITA AIRWAYS!

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Josh Cahill

Josh Cahill

Жыл бұрын

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This is a comprehensive Flight Review of ITA Airways.
Class: Business
Route: Rome (FCO) to Delhi (DEL)
Plane: Airbus A330-200
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@ska3806
@ska3806 Жыл бұрын
„Cabin looks a bit dated“ - looks still a decade newer than Lufthansa’s 😂
@TronLegacy7
@TronLegacy7 Жыл бұрын
Being a barista, I immediately knew they would get confused when you ask them for a latte. If they didn't clarify, you would have just been given a glass of milk lol
@rahilmalhotra001
@rahilmalhotra001 Жыл бұрын
Oh nice I didnt know latte meant milk in Italian.
@fulvia1454
@fulvia1454 Жыл бұрын
They gave him caffè latte. But they might have given a cappuccino as well, if I'm not mistaken; they should be pretty much the same thing. Am I right?
@TronLegacy7
@TronLegacy7 Жыл бұрын
@@fulvia1454 so cappuccino has more foam which gives the feeling that it is stronger than a latte since there is less milk to dilute the coffee with. By default a milk coffee would be a cafe latte but I normally ask my customers what they would prefer
@enricogg
@enricogg Жыл бұрын
@@fulvia1454 Latte: literally milk Cappuccino: frothy milk with espresso Caffe latte: literally milk and espresso (in this case the milk is not frothy, just warm) Caffe macchiato: Espresso with a few teaspoons of milk Latte macchiato: A glass of milk with less of shot of espresso Macchiato: means nothing. Well.. it literally means "stained" but it doesn't give the barista enough information, so they will probably ask you "Caffe macchiato o Latte macchiato?" gotta have a fucking degree to drink coffee in Italy 🤣🤣
@patriciafuchs5970
@patriciafuchs5970 Жыл бұрын
Too funny. Cafe Latte! The lounge looks greats! Pizza for breakfast, yum. Sorry your seat is so crummy. Nice amenities kit. Your food looked great! Oh no, stinky loo!
@crboxyt
@crboxyt Жыл бұрын
As an Italian I like my flag carrier, but what has to be specified is that ITA is recovering from bankruptcy and has little to no budget, these seats are from Alitalia and are one of the reasons of the company's trouble, to test the actual experience you would have to fly on the new A350 or A220. But a thing that I'm very happy about is that ITA's crew is one of the friendliest and most well trained in the world (including pilots). In December I'm going to fly on ITA's flagships in a flight (PMO->FCO) A220 and final leg (FCO->SFO) A350, I'll update this comment when I'll finally get to try ITA's business class and not Alitalia's
@crboxyt
@crboxyt 11 ай бұрын
@karate163 avrò esagerato con ashamed ma per il prezzo che paghi io la ritengo una delle business migliori al mondo ma le sedie dei vecchi A330 non neo le ritengo inaccettabili
@dariomattiello2869
@dariomattiello2869 Жыл бұрын
The jig on "latte, macchiato, caffelatte, espresso" was fantastic. You have been very unlucky to be seated in 5J which substantially an aisle seat and is very close to one of the J class galley. Only rows 2 and 4 should be chosen on this plane. Moreover, as far as I can remember, your specific seat is the crew rest seat (for pilot) for longer flights and it is not sold, f. example, on GRU or MIA routes. These 330s do not have crew bunks. Look at the curtain the runs around your seat that explains all. As you said, the hard product is quite old on A330-200, though not so old as some Asian airlines (777 Thai, f. ex). Waiting for the 330-NEO this year to see the improvements. Seems to me all your ground experience from check-in to some sort of "VIP treatment" on the lounge, to boarding process was absolutely friendly, warm and flawless. Departure was on-time, as you mention. On board, by your words: "beautiful amenity kit", "really quality food", "proactive crew". Your food review though seems a little "slim", since ITA offers 4 course menu which is considered among the best in the world (Alitalia won many times "best food onboard" awards) and you give the idea that only one course was served. Very unlucky also with your loo-review just after the previous "shitty" visitor. We will be anxiously waiting for the arrival of your country (DE) giant airline to see how things changes for the better (ironic)......
@ivanmaggini
@ivanmaggini Жыл бұрын
I flew on board the ex Alitalia A320s and the new A220s, the hard product on the ex Alitalia planes was terrible but on the planes it was amazing, I hope that the 32Ns we’ll be good
@jasongarufi8187
@jasongarufi8187 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Josh, I hope you get to fly ITA on a new non ex Alitalia plane and do other review and see if there are and differences with seat layout and seat comfort.
@chrigu70
@chrigu70 6 ай бұрын
As an aircraft engineer , sporadicly working for ITA i have to say that their aircrafts are painted in the most beautiful blue i have ever seen (Azure-blue). I wish my car had this paint job...
@r12004rewy
@r12004rewy Жыл бұрын
Lounge looked amazing as did all the staff from the check in agent to the cabin crew, unlucky seat choice though and that dated cabin didn't add to the enjoyment of the flight, but the basics are there and I hope will improve with newer and refurbished fleet.
@mgonch
@mgonch Жыл бұрын
Great review Josh! I am curious to see how ITA develops in the long term as well! From what I understand, the 330s are to be replaced eventually with -neos, and they are to take deliveries of the 321neo’s with proper business class, intending to use them on flights to Africa and the Middle East. Besides, an interesting flight to review in Italy would be Silver Air - a small regional airline operating Let L410s from Milan and Florence to Elba, which is pretty unique!
@straxwb
@straxwb Жыл бұрын
Yes, ITA is due to receive some A330-900 to replace the "old" 332s, one is already being painted so it's coming! More 359s are coming, 4 or 5 iirc, already received three A320neo and there are 321neo LR in future plans!
@tvfd-thevirtualflightdispa978
@tvfd-thevirtualflightdispa978 Жыл бұрын
First, a disclaimer. I am an ex-AZ manager, who ran AZ in SFO. What I can tell you is that ITA is still in transition. They are working on getting the A359 into their fleet and this aircraft will be their long haul workhorse. The shorter flights will be operated by the 332. The hard product on the 359 is competitive, but not industry leading. Combined with the soft product, it is as good as any other J class in Europe and in some ways far better. Eventually the hard product on the 332 will get swapped out… When ET put money into AZ, the product improved dramatically. When I was there, we focused on making the experience as personal as possible in both Y and J, but in J because we had a smaller cabin, we could focus more and those that flew from SFO had a consistently great experience. What I saw was a lot of that personal “Italian touch”. However, be mindful that there are three things that are sacred to Italians: Food, wine and coffee. If you understand that, you will have a fantastic time in Italy. It’s good to see that this extends to ITA. I am generally disappointed with the slow return of the full J experience, but ITA had focused on this and they get that on long haul, the soft product matters. Once they get hard product sorted, they will have a very competitive J product. LH may change that…but for now…ITA is very underrated…
@FRANK-py1kb
@FRANK-py1kb 10 ай бұрын
Vero
@LofoDub54
@LofoDub54 Жыл бұрын
Back in the days you had Alitalia but also ATI on national routes. It was ok or miserable, depending on the flight, routes, days, wind...just kidding. After the Alitalia crash in 1990 (Zurich on short final), things even went worse since many people felt unsafe flying Alitalia. But now, there is a new airline, newer planes, a highly motivated crew and a nation that stands behind the new product. I wish them all the best since it is now time for Italy to be a 100% back in the sky.
@claudiogh6560
@claudiogh6560 Жыл бұрын
Oh my God, I remember all those flights on Alitalia planes where I had to seat 5J 😂 you’re absolutely right, that’s a very unlucky seat! And I don’t know why but every time I had to sit there, I swear it seemed also that the seat was tougher than the others… I gotta say, though, that new ITA Airways A350 planes have a GREAT BUSINESS CLASS! I’ve already flown with them almost 10 flights on A350 and I honestly tell you it is one of the most comfortable business class of the industry, I have great sleeps on those seats! And I totally agree on the crew, they usually are very friendly and pleasant crew, more enjoyable that many others. Maybe it’s also the Italian culture 😂 And about the lounge I think it’s a bit too small but I totally agree on the food, next time try pasta and desserts, they are AMAZING! In a few months they are opening a new lounge in FCO and I really can’t wait to see if they also improved the interiors! Thanks for your video, it was very enjoyable! 😛
@danielc45
@danielc45 Жыл бұрын
Where are ITA flying the new A350? I don't see them on their website.
@effkay3691
@effkay3691 Жыл бұрын
Don’t complain. I just flew 14 hours on United. Polaris seat was great but the food was frozen tv standard at best. Don’t get me started on breakfast. Appalling. I’ve had much much better food on Qantas domestic from Kalgoorlie to Perth and I am not exaggerating. ITA food looked lovely.
@that-plane-guy
@that-plane-guy Жыл бұрын
Great review Josh! I flew ITA and it was very nice and the crew was really nice.
@rommelflores2618
@rommelflores2618 Жыл бұрын
Instant subscriber! Loving these.
@sebinamuwanga
@sebinamuwanga Жыл бұрын
Nice review. I love listening to the Italiano accent. Now that you have given the number one food and lounge rating to Rome, you should also rate the inflight meals and tell us which has been your best experience.
@fulvia1454
@fulvia1454 Жыл бұрын
As for desserts, I'm pretty sure he would say the cheesecake on SAA. I'm craving for it 🍰
@clairedobson2240
@clairedobson2240 Жыл бұрын
Great review Josh. Like your balanced reviews. The staff in the lounge at Rome came across very well
@mazz2001
@mazz2001 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Thank you for being honest 👍
@maitreyabhattacharya
@maitreyabhattacharya Жыл бұрын
The best channel just made the first proper ITA Airways review.
@RobinsVoyage
@RobinsVoyage Жыл бұрын
Great review. And your sense of humour was in great form.
@loribarber4526
@loribarber4526 Жыл бұрын
Great vid as always!
@waynecaffey4992
@waynecaffey4992 Жыл бұрын
The light can be turned off, but crew must know it's a separate "zone" on the computer that they use. 5J is a crew rest seat (can tell by fact there's a curtain that can go around seat). They must select that additional zone to turn it off
@PureDhan
@PureDhan Жыл бұрын
Hey man! Love the aviation videos!
@christopherwayoftravel8435
@christopherwayoftravel8435 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Keep them coming mate, 👍
@TheSumo1955
@TheSumo1955 Жыл бұрын
Hi Josh what do you use to book your flights, do you just go straight to the airline or do you use a search engine, thank in advance
@samschnh534
@samschnh534 Жыл бұрын
Wow ferragamo amenity kit !!!!! That’s the nicest amenity kit I’ve seen. Idk why airlines still have curtains has a separated, it’s so freaking loud in the crew kitchen
@woutergijs5246
@woutergijs5246 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this honest review Josh.
@ojosef4608
@ojosef4608 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Hope to try the lounge very soon.
@mickboakes7023
@mickboakes7023 Жыл бұрын
Just love watching you wing your way around the world. Stay safe. All the best. Mick🇬🇧
@franklinloo2160
@franklinloo2160 11 ай бұрын
Nice review as always. 💕
@jordannelson4898
@jordannelson4898 Жыл бұрын
That seat also looks like a crew rest seat or non revenue passenger seat, with the curtain that can be pulled around the seat
@adeyemiwilliamson2823
@adeyemiwilliamson2823 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johngriffiths4973
@johngriffiths4973 Жыл бұрын
Alitalia used to be a very mixed affair. They had great flights once upon a time in the Med region on sleek MD 80's but then began running their domestic routes with ATR's, resulting in bumpy flights, frequent delays and a few crashes. Nowadays Ryanair has a near monopoly on all domestic and short haul routes to/from Italy, so ITA won't become a player in that sector. With this hard product I guess it will be tough to keep up in the revenue making longhaul too, except on such routes like this one where the direct competition is represented by Air India.
@Jxster9279
@Jxster9279 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful keep it up !!
@belugast
@belugast Жыл бұрын
Great video, I am sure the new A350 is a joy to ride.👍 You reminded me of my visit to Milan a few years ago, I asked for a coffee with milk omg then the great debate began, Italy loves their coffee and you need to know your stuff or expect a lesson! 🤣
@misan461
@misan461 Жыл бұрын
Bravo Josh for becoming teetotal on board. Never worked for me on flights. Mine was dizziness. Now I don't drink at all. People think it odd but I feel better after the flight.
@zurbscu
@zurbscu 5 ай бұрын
We flew this plane in 2016 from MXP to AUH, we had under Alitalia the best lounge experience ever and a wonderful flight with an excellent crew. Will never forget it!
@zurbscu
@zurbscu 5 ай бұрын
We normally not getting headache with some glasses of wines, but after having a bottle of Ferrari Brut in the lounge by the Ferrari sommelier, they want to give us also some more of the bubbles and some reds. We insisted also that we had enough alcohol, but they opened a bottle of a very good Primitivo. We had that much, we could not drink any more in the Etihad lounge and on the plane again to JNB 🙂
@straxwb
@straxwb Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately ITA still has a lot of ex-Alitalia planes that just received a new livery but nothing new on the inside. Many new planes are coming, 24 only this year iirc, and in due time the 332s will be replaced by 339s and by more 359s
@tiziostanco
@tiziostanco Жыл бұрын
Ciao Josh! I suggest you another Italian hint! Cappuccino or caffelatte or latte macchiato should be drinked only for breakfast and never after 11 AM! Caffè macchiato is ok for every hour of the day. But NEVER drink those stuff before (or after or with) a pizza! Have a great day!
@gunston999
@gunston999 Жыл бұрын
It’s always been Latte e Caffe for decades from the days of my great great grandfather..then Starbucks comes along takes an Italian concept and started changing things including dropping the word Caffe from Latte e Caffe.
@limaim26
@limaim26 Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. I traveled with ITA last year MIA to FCO and I also traveled in the A330-200 with the ITA livery. The plane was really dated inside and everything was Alitalia. The service from the crew was awful.
@egarcia2153
@egarcia2153 Жыл бұрын
Was just here a week ago. The dark haired barista gave me attitude for ordering a latte after breakfast haha
@etswaconnor7
@etswaconnor7 11 ай бұрын
Amazing vid like always
@santiagorivasb
@santiagorivasb Жыл бұрын
The ground staff seemed great
@camf7522
@camf7522 Жыл бұрын
Did you ask to use the curtain that wraps around the seat when it is used for crew rest?
@Karan91948
@Karan91948 Жыл бұрын
your vids are really very entertaining 🤩🤩 keep it up
@naomimorse6455
@naomimorse6455 Жыл бұрын
Josh great reviews ! is the ITA lounge food better then Emirates?
@michaelsemira8434
@michaelsemira8434 Жыл бұрын
did you get a headache after the wine ? great review as always
@josellegomez7931
@josellegomez7931 Жыл бұрын
I do miss the previous livery ! nice video as always
@josellegomez7931
@josellegomez7931 Жыл бұрын
dont have telegram thanks though love your vids
@matyhrac1856
@matyhrac1856 Жыл бұрын
Hi i have question did you ever fly with ČSA or Smartwings? If yes, how was it?
@johnmichaelireland
@johnmichaelireland Жыл бұрын
Great Video as usual. You looked so rested and relaxed. And the food,,, well, Italians and food.... Will you please review Aer Lingus soon?? Please!!!!!!
@coda1970
@coda1970 Жыл бұрын
Josh, next time try Seat Guru, a very useful app to see seat quality in each flight. It will avoid to be booked on the "bad seat" in Business Class. And yes..."Latte" means milk in Italian as you mention.
@GoodMusicManiac999
@GoodMusicManiac999 Жыл бұрын
As an Italian, I felt the pain when you asked for the latte!
@IgboTIFOSI
@IgboTIFOSI Жыл бұрын
Enjoying this as usual. Still a bit puzzled, heard you say new plans/new role so are you giving up youtube?
@frankpoulsen8416
@frankpoulsen8416 Жыл бұрын
That is so funny when you said "whoever was last in here took a massive SHIT. Hahahahahahahaa. I have been laughing for 10 minutes.
@nitahandorf1547
@nitahandorf1547 Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Josh, Looking forward to watch more of your 2023 airlines evaluations, survey, comments and more. Enjoyed them immensely. Few days ago I flew first-class Alaska Airlines from San Francisco to Austin, TX. The sets smells.
@davidbalcon8726
@davidbalcon8726 Жыл бұрын
Seat is almost as bad as LX’s exposed aisle seats…and LX’s are the most uncomfortable business seat I’ve ever flown!
@filippofonseca
@filippofonseca Жыл бұрын
“Latte” is the direct translation for “Milk” in Italian. That was prob the reason for the confusion. :)
@zurbscu
@zurbscu 5 ай бұрын
Yes the lounge food is for us still the best we ever had!
@mwolfgr01
@mwolfgr01 Жыл бұрын
An updated interior to their airplanes could do this airline wonders.
@ameerali.ouarda
@ameerali.ouarda Жыл бұрын
I had one of the best coffees as well in Italy, but was the British Airways lounge in Milan.
@SlavaUkraini85
@SlavaUkraini85 Жыл бұрын
Same here for me: longhaul and booze doesn’t work out anymore for me
@physh
@physh Жыл бұрын
So, that curtain track on the ceiling seems to hint that it could be a crew rest seat...
@kawangkwok5262
@kawangkwok5262 Жыл бұрын
Josh, I have the idea, you can take a series of videos of worst seat(s) in different business class/ first class in different airlines...
@dianeschroeder3980
@dianeschroeder3980 Жыл бұрын
As always, great review Josh. I was not aware that ITA was the former Alitalia❤️✈️
@rais1953
@rais1953 Жыл бұрын
It isn't exactly. ITA took over the routes and the hardware of the former Alitalia but it's a new company.
@Canleaf08
@Canleaf08 Жыл бұрын
The MilleMiglia programme was not part of the restructuring though.
@straxwb
@straxwb Жыл бұрын
It is not. It's a new company ran by different people and with a different business plan, that was created in 2021 using ex-Alitalia assets that are now starting to be replaced. But I get why everyone tends to still associate it with Alitalia
@crossemily
@crossemily Жыл бұрын
Hard product is obviously important but people make the journey so ITA looks great to me (and of course love Italian food and wine 😂)
@Matti_us_Alpe
@Matti_us_Alpe 4 ай бұрын
We should also appreciate one of the few airports (Leonardo) where for the security check we do not have to unpack anything!
@pcallou
@pcallou Жыл бұрын
Hello Josh.. great reviews.. quick question. Your seat choice is mostly to the right of aircraft.. any specific pros to share? Ty
@JoshCahill
@JoshCahill Жыл бұрын
To be honest that’s just a habit - no advantage really!
@brucemiller5356
@brucemiller5356 Жыл бұрын
sorry about the winej-induced headaches. you might try napoxium sodium (sp?) i find it very effective. also, i have mentioned this before, dear josh, you can do better on your food reviews. i do not think i am the only one who is interested, e.g. the cold plate. what was on it. terrific about the lounge. i gather they have a separate one for first class?? that seems wasteful to me, but then i am pretty grounded these days, in more ways than one. hugz.
@ioanniskomitas6196
@ioanniskomitas6196 Жыл бұрын
You need to try the extra Sengen Aegean lounge in ATH. My favourite in terns of food (although have not tried the ITA lounges).
@Y_Not1
@Y_Not1 Жыл бұрын
Hi Josh, that's one of the best lounge experiences I have ever seen.
@ShelterCats
@ShelterCats Жыл бұрын
Note to self: don’t watch Josh’s loo reviews while eating.
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx Жыл бұрын
Now in SMELLYVISION!
@adriennestark5198
@adriennestark5198 8 ай бұрын
It would be great if you could review the plain economy class as well.
@davidsage124
@davidsage124 8 ай бұрын
Got me with the Cafe latte!
@stanleovart
@stanleovart Жыл бұрын
Good to try that and point on problems. Good trip 👌 I flew AIitalia once via Rome to Buenos Aires and it was just fine. No specific memories
@MrKevreg
@MrKevreg Жыл бұрын
You've sold me on the lounge experience!!!
@tahagaming3993
@tahagaming3993 Жыл бұрын
Can you do Air Arabia review (from Sharjah to Amman)
@TheRareVideosXL
@TheRareVideosXL Жыл бұрын
ITA Airways does have potential to be a good airline and I hope that does happen. Fantastic video as always. Keep it up.
@walterthorne4819
@walterthorne4819 11 ай бұрын
Suggest keep shoes on until at altitude safe flying
@TravelogsIndia
@TravelogsIndia Жыл бұрын
We can take the amenity kit home right?
@kikechiriboga2481
@kikechiriboga2481 Жыл бұрын
I would have said café au lait but Italians don’t like French too much. So it was appropriate a latte.
@brian402
@brian402 15 күн бұрын
That lady that checked you in, was awesome / great company attitude, friendly and helpful., pity about ITA Airways though that's gotta suck. Great flight review as always there Josh 10/10 rating👍✈
@stevendurick9441
@stevendurick9441 Жыл бұрын
Isn't really relevant to the passenger experience but I absolutely love the ITA livery. Very easy on the eyes
@eliaskardous4224
@eliaskardous4224 Жыл бұрын
That lounge was so dark!! It appeared there was zero sun light😮
@JMsoo
@JMsoo Жыл бұрын
Hey Josh normally Lufthansa should purchase 40% first and than go 100% later if the Airline works. ITA should get into the LH Group.
@davidwebb4904
@davidwebb4904 Жыл бұрын
Heres an idea. Do the loo review right after take off.. 😂😂😂
@rais1953
@rais1953 Жыл бұрын
This loo review was honest. If the cabin crew had been alert they would have done the necessary deodorising. They didn't.
@danielezini9577
@danielezini9577 Жыл бұрын
So much latte before the flight and then a smelly lou. It definitely makes sense!
@mmdaisylover64
@mmdaisylover64 Жыл бұрын
Do you do any touring while your in other countries ?
@chr04
@chr04 Жыл бұрын
No one knows better the coffee than the Greeks. Freddo espresso and freddo cappuccino
@Marie.s.
@Marie.s. Жыл бұрын
Salvatore Ferragamo amenity kit is a big plus
@CharlesDegraftJohnson
@CharlesDegraftJohnson Жыл бұрын
Italian food served in Italy tastes amazing ! I have never had bad food in Italy
@fluffyfour
@fluffyfour Жыл бұрын
Many years ago I travelled Alitalia. I asked for a meal without rice (allergy). This was translated into a Vegetarian meal, despite the fact I never asked for that and am not a veggie. This 'meal' when it arrived turned out to be 3 slim triangles of sliced cheese, and NOTHING else. Never flew them again.
@Italycountryball2006
@Italycountryball2006 Жыл бұрын
please do one with the a350
@triplexdread
@triplexdread Жыл бұрын
Ahhh yes Latte is just milk in Italy. Be careful what you ask for lol
@i.m.ar.8290
@i.m.ar.8290 Жыл бұрын
How are you not scared? ive seen many of your videos, and i always wonder how do you do ? im so scared of planes, flying... i hate turbulences and feel like crying the whole time, its exhausting.. so please, if anyone can give me advices or anything, i take it...
@paulturner2911
@paulturner2911 Жыл бұрын
Can't argue with their livery though, one of the best (if not the best) liveries on the planet imo.
@DanielJacksonMusic
@DanielJacksonMusic 9 ай бұрын
Some ITA Airways planes I think are still in the Alitalia livery still so they are basically still recovering from Alitalias fall
@BobTravellin
@BobTravellin Жыл бұрын
Best Loo Review in history, Josh - outstanding! ;-))
@mustafakaya5423
@mustafakaya5423 Жыл бұрын
Love how when you entered the plane you caught the guy with no mask and phone in the hand😂
@abynv
@abynv Жыл бұрын
All A330s with different airlines I have flown I always found seats to be very small. I think it's a Airbus A330 problem rather than being a airline problem.
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