Even greater times if you are a customer and your firstname is Joshua 😊.

I think all three are going for slightly different things which makes it competitive. Right now I see hdzero being the lightest , dji being the best quality and walksnail being right in the middle.

Pre-cough was a great time to be a consumer regarding FPV. Now everything is 30% more expensive and then some.

How do you Manage the 5V input on your 3”? Surely you are using 2s or 3s?

If that walksnail VTX comes along will it work in my DJI googles or will the goggles need to have HDMI input?

@@SueMyChin No, hdmi in required

Ill be using this on a 3 inch. 75mm should be fine though.

Sounds like a good idea

Yes, I reckon many of us will be going down this route.

Do you know if that walksnail VTX will it work in my DJI v1 googles or will the goggles need to have HDMI input?

@@SueMyChin No it won't work on dji. Needs hdmi in.

@@SueMyChin I think you have to have an HDMI input for it to work.

I couldn't agree more. I actually took a year off because nothing really interesting was coming out. The new mobula7 brought me back from fixed wing stuff (not more fun necessarily but more fun to fly miles out and up and coast back). This is pretty cool.

This is the first thing I have seen that differentiates itself from DJI. I love DJI systems but I could see this going into two of my quads easily.

Yes, but they didn’t and they had good reasons not to. DJI went for BIG money, not to make that handful of FPV pilots happy.

@@nickvledder "handful". That's a big claim from a fanboy

Dji could care less, eat your food and you'll like it.

@@nickvledder that handful is most of the community

@Nick Vledder when dji will make an indoor micro fpv bundle, this sport will get sooo big, almost like when Metallica released their black crappy album

I did the same thing. I have my hx115lr, with a HDZero whoop vtx, love it.

curious about what size and kv you used on your build, would like to do a similar build and would like to see what others are using

@@where1024 for sure! I actually have a whole playlist on my channel about it, but essentially it is the HX115 running gemfan 3" props, FPV cycle 13mm 11500kv motors, the Darwin 15A AIO, and HDZ whoop lite. I did a tune with auto PID selection to run 1S or 2S on it with a motor output limit for the 2S tune. It can either be a smooth stealth flyer that can hardly be heard in a park...or a hardcore freestyle ripper. Just pick the pack voltage for what you want to do with it and send it! There are some considerations for things like the tall camera that I did on the build as well and covered in a video when I converted it from analog to HDZero.

@@BaconNinjaFPV gonna have to check those vids out

Love my hx115 lr too. I've got mine setup for long flight time. Got a 1300mah 1s near 9min flights

You mean in fpv fields of science and mechanics , or fpv exiled to cornfields ?

@@gregorydahl Definitely science and mechanics, albeit efficient flying over cornfields maybe its obvious consequence.

It does seriously look good.

@@creationlabsinc.189 it does look incredible, I was super interested in the hdzero but honestly the community kinda feels like a cult and I no longer see it as replacing analog like some would have you believe

@@kodabear3358 lmao! You said it best. A cultish feel for sure. It amazes me how serious a lot of hobbyist in fpv pick a side like it’s a political thing. I own all that’s out there to own in fpv as far as walksnail, hd zero, Dji. In all honesty I’m a visual person which is what drew me to fpv. I could care less about racing so hdzero just collects dust.

@@creationlabsinc.189 I seriously dont even forsee most racers switching over to hdzero unless they're sponsored it's just so expensive to repair compared to analog, its pretty much a product only elite racers will benefit from

@@Quad_Father yeah I questioned why they said it'd be a public beta for the goggles and then switched it to invite only and they kinda just gaslit me saying you wouldnt want to be a beta tester with all the requirements

HDZero can look better, but we are comparing the Whoop vTX bundle to the Aatar Mini bundle. You could buy the Whoop vTX separately, use a heavier camera, and then get a little better image quality at about the same weight, I suppose. That's just not an option I tested -- mostly because my HDZero whoop is ready to go and I don't want to gut it just to increase the weight and make it fly worse.

​@@JoshuaBardwell That's a good point! I'm running the whoop vtx with the Runcam HDZero Micro camera (on a 3" toothpick) and it looks amazing. I completely skipped the Nano Lite camera lol

@@JoshuaBardwell also this is a 4:3 sensor and you're showing footage in 16x9 which doesn't look as sharp

This fw looks great. If this fw was on the first release, fatsnail will hold a good reputation immediately

And same output

@@jmcjmc5587 the sneaky thing Bardwell left out of this dvr is the SRT track showing the lag vs time. He doesn't belive people feel lag spikes or at least that it doesn't matter to anyone

@@RyanQuellet Exact why not to put the SRT? I feel the lag and I have ask him if there's lag behind the barn but it don't respond me. If you look the video behind the barn HDZ is superior to WS with half the power.

@@jmcjmc5587 to be clear, I'm not saying hdzero is superior there - I'm pointing out that an important metric to people that fly and not just sight see is the lag and lag spikes. Hdzero is smooth as butter, others are not - Let's stop hiding this fact

Nah. Accept the facts, hdzero is just an improved analog. Even you have stability, that annoying rainbow flicks will knock you out while flying. And for WS, That's the compression of a variable system. DJI does that so this should not be new to us. It's pretty clear you have biases on a system that makes fpv community divided.

@@smoke2584 OK. So if HDZ is an improved analog then everything is an analog improved , even dji and ws. HDZ is not an analog pal/ntsc system. On DJI and WS you have not rainbow but you have super lag that make people crash.

I only think about what is fair to the product. I don't decide what to say based on how people will react.

@@JoshuaBardwell oh sure. i just meant "Some people are going to prefer hdzero and some people would prefer this." without revealing your personal preferences. That being said, would love to see your comparison of a better HDZero camera (I liked Digisight v3 so far..) against this camera. Also the random HDZero latency jitter in it's Vrx modules (I don't know why or when it happens, but i swear it happens on almost every 2nd battery for me!) vs. the latency spikes in this system.

@@saidinesh5 even hdzero have the latest cams. The image itself is not as good sa walksnail. Just accept the facts. It is still analog image with just crispier image. That's all hdzero does.

They are already upset😂

One way link so it's hard to correct missed packets. I wonder if it could do similar to what ELRS is doing now, sending multiple packets. Maybe you'd get half the resolution but more resilience?

You can just disable temperature protection and then standby mode is disabled.

@@JoshuaBardwell okay I’m sorry, wasn’t sure if you said that in the vid

Hey!! I have the 2s crux3. How hard was it to fit the WS whoop board? Also does the crux3 have a spare rx/tx pad I haven’t checked yet. I have a custom canopy not sure if that will work with it. I’m really only getting this for it so if it doesn’t work I’ll be PO lol

​@@DivisionRc Hi. It is a bit of a weird setup that I ended up with. You can definitely make it work, it just won't be ideal. Main issue in my case was the tiny bit of clearance between props and electronics. the VTX is larger than the AIO. So my AIO board is where it was before, mounted to the carbon. On top of that I have a TPU custom canopy for the camera and the antenna. The camera mipi cable and the antenna wire go around the side of the AIO, down to the vtx that's mounted below the carbon. It's roated 45degrees relative to the AIO ( so the aio is corner-forward, the vtx is flat-side-forward), and the screws go through the little openings in the arms of the frame, sort of under motor wires. Technically they aren't screwed into anything, they just fit really snuggly, and with nuts on top, they can't go anywhere. On the bottom of the VTX I have a TPU piece for protection. The good thing about the vtx being below the AIO and frame is that the ELRS ceramic antenna is not sandwitched between the boards, as it would be if the vtx was on top. The bad thing is I need to unscrew the vtx to get to the AIO's USB port (that is below the AIO in my case). So better make sure you have your configuration done right before you put it together. There are other ways to do it, but it would require moving the motors up, down or out , or slightly smaller props, and I didn't want to deal with that. It could also be mounted on top of the AIO on spacers to move the vtx board just above the prop line, but I didn't want the quad to end up this tall. So.. my solution is fairly compact, but inconvenient if you need to work on it. I hardly ever have to plug this thing in, so it works for me. And yeah, the crux should have a spare tx/rx. At least mine does, I'm not sure if the 2s version has the same board. The 5v pad couldn't provide enough power for the vtx, though, so I powered it off of vbat. You can't do that with 2s, so make sure you have a 5v pad that can provide the power or you'll have to squeeze a separate regulator somewhere. I can take some pictures of the setup if you need. Let me know.

Hdzero doesn't have this effect. But it's lower resolution overall.

@@JoshuaBardwell I guess my eyes treat things different then lol cuz what I see vs everyone else. Is not good lmao but that’s my own personal opinion.