British TA Reserves Get Sent To Afghanistan

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8 жыл бұрын

Into The Breach: Thousands of people combine normal jobs with training for the Territorial Army. But what was once just a supporting force is now 30% of the over-stretched British Army's deployment, even to the frontline.
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Colour Sergeant Neil Redpath joined the TA when he was living on a miniscule grant at college. "It was to get extra money basically." The pay - one solider earns 27,000 GBP a year - can make all the difference to struggling families in the depressed north-east of England. Many of the soldiers weigh up the pressures of providing for a young family with dangers of active service. "In civilian life I drive a truck and how many people get killed on the roads?", reasons one. Yet Darren Longstaff's partner was shaken when he called to tell them he had been shot. As troops withdraw from Afghanistan, this report looks at the personal experiences of part-time soldiers who found themselves at the heart of the battle.
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@johnnydiamondsmusic1673
@johnnydiamondsmusic1673 4 жыл бұрын
I did 14 Years in T/A. It takes a high degree of motivation to hold down a full time job and family life. Then pack up your gear and go off on a Friday night till Sunday evening. After a hard weekend of little sleep then go into work Monday morning. Most of us did one or 2 weekends like that every month, plus 2 weeks camp and courses as well. Best times for me was attachment to regular units. As a T/A Cpl sometimes in command of regular troops.
@rickyray2794
@rickyray2794 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious, did the regular troops ever treat you in a negative way or was it always pretty cool between everybody?
@johnnydiamondsmusic1673
@johnnydiamondsmusic1673 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickyray2794 some used to look down on us. I did an attachment to a regular unit and had a great time. We used to have regular Permanent staff attached to us and they all changed their perception of us after serving in a reserve unit. When I was attached to the regulars as a Cpl I was in charge of regular troops no problem there was nothing I hadn’t been trained for.
@rickyray2794
@rickyray2794 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnydiamondsmusic1673 Sounds like you've had an interesting life, thanks for sharing!
@fatty3383
@fatty3383 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed my TA days in the 90s. I came out when my eldest son was born it was to much commitment between work and family life and there wasn't really much flexibility in jobs then either. My old unit is all shut down now and an shop fitting depot I think. Your definitely right it does take a lot of motivation to do a week's work then away Friday night.
@iftakharhossainnayeem8549
@iftakharhossainnayeem8549 8 ай бұрын
help me for join. i am from bangladesh
@jayant54singh
@jayant54singh 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Britishers for introducing TA to India, I'll soon be joining Indian Territorial Army.
@JustAnOrdinarySimmer
@JustAnOrdinarySimmer 2 жыл бұрын
Great, as already said, go deal with those scammers! oh and don't shoot your squad mates in the back if you get a bit depressed!!
@VarinderSingh-vn1pp
@VarinderSingh-vn1pp 6 ай бұрын
U joined it ?
@MrPinhead66
@MrPinhead66 5 жыл бұрын
the uk deployed over 330,000 ta personnel at the start of ww2 when war was declared these troops turned up for a normal we trainging at best they did not come home for 6 years at worse some did not come home at all. all those who complain about ta training should remember the majority of said training is done by ex regulars in units and fulltime regulars at depots.
@itstime6495
@itstime6495 3 жыл бұрын
Its no longer TA (unless your university OTC cadets) Reserve forces are reservists.
@ABritInThePhilippines
@ABritInThePhilippines 7 жыл бұрын
Watching this video makes me proud to be British, i think the job these guys do for our country is fantastic, so well done to all of you.. Our TA members get just as much quality training as our regular army does.. Nice upload, thanks for the share... Carl
@ajgYT09
@ajgYT09 6 жыл бұрын
Carl The Brit in The Philippines They don't. Nowhere near as much training as regulars do.
@bakersmileyface
@bakersmileyface 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry but no. Reservists really are severely under-trained compared to regulars. To the point that a reservist is more likely to be badly injured or killed than a regular soldier is it seems. Considering how long reservists are out there for and how long regulars are out there for, it kind of shows you a huge difference.
@32ewing
@32ewing 2 жыл бұрын
proud of what bombing hospitals killing innocent kids women men wasting trillions on war while there homelessness and foodbanks austerity while the MPs get £80k a year and royal billionaire tax dodger peadophiles get 70 million a year while you go get killed stfu 🐑
@skeletonkey6733
@skeletonkey6733 3 жыл бұрын
In 2020 the Reservist & TA have proven themselves key assets over the years in filling the voids that come from the modern-day demands in ever-changing commitments of our armed forces world wide whilst maintaining the high standards required to best fulfill missions on deployment and maybe a subject you should cover again as lots happening in Mali, Sudan, Kenya etc
@WheelieMacBin
@WheelieMacBin 5 жыл бұрын
MR UVA appears to be on a mission. God forbid you are ever injured by an IED in theatre and taken for treatment and met by a Reserve surgeon. I guess you would prefer to bleed out waiting for a regular to arrive from the UK? The modern army cannot function without the Reserve, and this film did stress the fact that the Reserve held a pool of specialists.
@bakersmileyface
@bakersmileyface 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody is saying that we don't want reserves. Hats off to them, they're doing something. But we don't think that reserves have earned the right to call themselves soldiers. We don't think it was a good idea to have them essentially replace the roles of regulars that were laid off. We don't think they're capable enough to be there. They are seriously under-trained compared to regulars. That puts their own lives and the lives of everyone else at risk. Compared to that the government sacked of (I think it was something like 30,000 troops? Might be wrong. Been a long time) thousands of regular soldiers. Some of the deadliest soldiers in the world. It's putting people's lives at risk, it's seriously reducing the already declining military power of the UK and it's a national defence risk. And for what? To save money. To be able to pay a nice bonus to our lovely politicians. So don't misunderstand why people hate on reservists. It's not to the point that we'd reject help from one if we're injured. It's just we hate how irritating they are and wish they would just fuck off. They really are toy soldiers.
@henry8239
@henry8239 4 жыл бұрын
@@bakersmileyface Sound like a pussy. Bet youre a private and wont ever get promotion
@mikesummers6880
@mikesummers6880 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the regulars who are commenting about the TA are just jealous and haven't a clue because they don't know anything about the TA yes they are some shit and then again there is some very good soldiers in the TA too. I was in the TA for 15 yrs and I couldn't give a shit what a regular thought of me but the times I was on exercise in Germany with some of the regulars they were absolutely shit and lazy but not all of them . Just remember there were a lot of TAs out in the gulf 1 and 2 and Afghan who didn't make home alive and a lot were also maimed by IEDs and didn't whinge about who's more professional just remember the TA brings in more experience from civvi street that you regulars don't know.
@abdulrahman31350
@abdulrahman31350 2 жыл бұрын
@@bakersmileyface a lot of TA soldiers are fitter then regulars. Regulars after basic training get idle. Also regulars get paid to for their PT sessions. TA have to take care of their own training needs on their spare time.
@MrPinhead66
@MrPinhead66 Жыл бұрын
all surgeons are fully qualified dr's and surgeons
@kamansinghhd3491
@kamansinghhd3491 6 жыл бұрын
I think TA Is brilliant because it gets everyday civilians into the reality of army life ps I might join
@coreywilliams1454
@coreywilliams1454 6 жыл бұрын
"Wont get an army id" Chatting absolute shit, Geneva convention requires every member of the military, regardless of part or full time to have a military id issued to them
@coreywilliams1454
@coreywilliams1454 6 жыл бұрын
Well they are wrong, they are given it on completion of Phase 2.
@BloodHeresy
@BloodHeresy 6 жыл бұрын
And what about the TA medical? Will they get the same respect from you as they are pulling you out the shit?
@ajgYT09
@ajgYT09 6 жыл бұрын
SGT UVA Soooo what happened in your life to poison you against the Army Reserve? You meet/work with some poor ones? Physically speaking. I gave TA a go in 2008 for 2 years. I did get a MOD90 card saying British Army on it. They do that since the "One Army: Regular and Territorial" ad campaigns from 2005.
@mattl1762
@mattl1762 5 жыл бұрын
You know what, the disrespect in this conversation is shocking. You should be ashamed. I doubt the bodybags are so discriminatory!
@redpillrevelation5978
@redpillrevelation5978 3 жыл бұрын
Its now called the reserves...I'm attached to a regular unit and I'm a full time reservis...
@zxkmh818
@zxkmh818 3 жыл бұрын
Not too sound ignorant how do you be a full time reservist ?
@redpillrevelation5978
@redpillrevelation5978 3 жыл бұрын
@@zxkmh818 full time roles but paid part time...I joined at 35 to old to join regulars, but attach to a regular unit just paid less...for me it's about the experience not the pay.
@stemartin6671
@stemartin6671 3 жыл бұрын
@@redpillrevelation5978 what role did you choose bud I’m 35 and applying as we speak
@redpillrevelation5978
@redpillrevelation5978 3 жыл бұрын
@@stemartin6671 rifles regiment
@stemartin6671
@stemartin6671 3 жыл бұрын
@@redpillrevelation5978 how did you find it physically bud? Also have you gone on a deployment yet or are you not looking for that?
@johncrosley1
@johncrosley1 2 жыл бұрын
The original idea of the TA was to take over homeland duties while the regulars went off to fight. Due to defence cutbacks over the years that all changed.Two weeks exercising a year is not enough. In Germany in the sixties they were a joke. They didn’t know what they were doing and spent the fortnight pissing it up and having a good time. In recent years active service was a real possibility. Talk about doing it on the cheap.
@sushant3196
@sushant3196 7 жыл бұрын
Full respect for every soldier of all countries. A soldier who fights for honour and sacrifice deserves respect. However, I'm a little surprised that the British give so much importance to monetary part of it.
@davetherave28
@davetherave28 7 жыл бұрын
Truth be told, The monetary part is often sold by the media.. Why would anyone do it ? Money. No, Not quite. Yes money plays a part (we all need it to pay the bills), But what often goes unsaid is the tradition, The part in history, The man standing next to you. Queen & Country (& all therein). If you rationalise that one day your time will come, Why not for a heartfelt cause. The army does equal opportunity as well, But there is risk. You sign up to that, You understand that balance. After the army, PMCs are an option, There is more money to be made- But the Army fosters a good moral standing and it's our duty to be of our word and keep up those standards.
@32ewing
@32ewing 2 жыл бұрын
imagine wanting to eat have somewhere to fucking sleep 🤦🏻‍♂️
@micahritchie9179
@micahritchie9179 2 жыл бұрын
My dad whet to Iraq with the ta
@gchqjtrig6492
@gchqjtrig6492 5 жыл бұрын
Lot of porkers in that route march, especially the major. The PSIs need to get a grip on fitness..
@johnhumphries9514
@johnhumphries9514 3 жыл бұрын
This was years ago in the TA , it is now the Army reserves! They have to do the exact fitness tests as regulars now! And just because you are over weight does not mean you are unfit! I know a few overweight guys could tab and run the ass off anyone
@bakersmileyface
@bakersmileyface 4 жыл бұрын
So they get rid of thousands of some of the best trained soldiers in the world and increase the number of materialistically trained reserves. To save what? To save money? What about lives? Reservists are more likely to be injured or killed when mobilised than a regular is during the same time frame. The reduction of a regular army is going to reduce our fighting capability against other, much larger, nations. We are a small country, we've always made up for that by quality over quantity. And our army is already falling behind on technology. Sure reserves are a good idea and I respect the people that go to do it. But they're nowhere near capable enough to be sent out in lieu of the soldiers that were laid off. It was a shitty decision.
@maxbodymass6288
@maxbodymass6288 2 жыл бұрын
And the proof of your theory is??? Oh I will wait.............
@bakersmileyface
@bakersmileyface 2 жыл бұрын
​@@maxbodymass6288 I posted a reply with the links in, but it got removed. Sorry, I guess I can't give you proof unless you managed to click on it before it got removed. Still, you can find information on the number of deaths of both active and reserve personnel on the government website in a document. The total number and ratio of active and reserve soldiers on both the govt website and the army wiki. And you can find the number of troops in each deployment on the army website.
@hunterr5542
@hunterr5542 2 жыл бұрын
@@bakersmileyface reservist soldiers train alongside regulars and complete training like full timers by ex deployed veterans and active personnel, I get what you are saying but they wouldn’t be deployed if their superiors thought they couldn’t do the job, I’m joining the reserves (infantry) and I’m doing my training like a full time soldier like anyone else, I’ll do the same amount of training and get the same experience as someone who may be joining as a full time soldier, so in regards to you saying they aren’t as capable is nonsense
@vibsking21
@vibsking21 6 жыл бұрын
I'm in the ta lol it's for kids yes I'm ex reg
@samyoung3706
@samyoung3706 6 жыл бұрын
John Dark what's the discipline like? Do you get beasted as much as regular army training?
@tobeywing
@tobeywing 5 жыл бұрын
Having been in the regular army doesn't mean that you were or are an effective or a bad soldier. If you have experience and skills that can enhance the training of your Army Reserve unit then you should use them to good effect.
@dee46569
@dee46569 5 жыл бұрын
The reseraves get the same treatment as the regulars prob not the same level of commitment but its still a wing of the army so respect to them
@monsieurboks
@monsieurboks 3 жыл бұрын
@@samyoung3706 Yes, for exactly 2 weeks of your career. The rest of the time, not really.
@beaucorr2561
@beaucorr2561 8 жыл бұрын
Watching this video made me ashamed to be British!! The likes of this glorified Dad's Army will not make one iota of a difference in Afghanistan or anywhere else for that matter. I could see that the kind of people being interviewed was in the main poor and uneducated. They come from an area of high unemployment and this situation has been prevalent for many generations. I really think they should focus on the political situation at home and not go off to far off lands to fight for a system that oppresses them. And if any fighting is required I suggest they train their sights on their real enemies which will be found at home.......
@baronvonwinkle1470
@baronvonwinkle1470 6 жыл бұрын
Your opinion Is deluded and It Is you who appears uneducated from your comment, now fuck off...there's a good chap
@kamansinghhd3491
@kamansinghhd3491 6 жыл бұрын
Bro people join the TA to explore the world and culture
@wadojutsu1
@wadojutsu1 5 жыл бұрын
Fuck off you bell end. Tell us all about your service?
@HELWINTER333
@HELWINTER333 5 жыл бұрын
Shut up snowflake
@marklloyd4087
@marklloyd4087 4 жыл бұрын
@MR UVA little boy
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