How To Set Your IDLE GAP! The Starting Point of You Carburettor Tune for Nitro Engines

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@bossbluff3577
@bossbluff3577 3 жыл бұрын
Quick tip: you can also use small sections of music wire (or aircraft style safety wire) in the appropriate diameter to measure the gap. A fairly common steel wire size: .020” = 0.5 mm You can usually find this in the model airplane (or train) section of your LHS.
@fencer39
@fencer39 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you are right !......but I will watch the full length version when I have a few days to spare. Good luck you are very entertaining.
@jamesathens8027
@jamesathens8027 3 жыл бұрын
the full vid is tuning gold you should watch it
@peterjemas7613
@peterjemas7613 11 ай бұрын
Great video! It's the clearest explanation of how the idle gap and LSN correlate that I've seen so far.
@ledgendary1735
@ledgendary1735 2 жыл бұрын
This video helped me get my Revo 3.3 just rippin! Stays at about 265 and just flys. Thank you so much, from Northern Michigan. The humidity is tricky.
@jonnis240
@jonnis240 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this information on idle screw 👌😁
@user-gg3gt9nc5c
@user-gg3gt9nc5c 4 ай бұрын
This will help set my nitro car up thanks, well explained 👍🏻
@samuelencinias2026
@samuelencinias2026 2 жыл бұрын
0 seconds ago Wow, everybody who’s not a nitro expert needs to watch your videos. I understood the basic operation of a car/truck carb but you break it down for the RC carbs perfectly. I could NOT get my Savage 4.6 tuned. After I watched a couple of your vids, Im up and running. Awesome job.
@dangarcia6940
@dangarcia6940 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your valuable knowledge.
@scalemodelconcepts7644
@scalemodelconcepts7644 2 жыл бұрын
great channel and video!
@MrSmartstots
@MrSmartstots Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, bought some feeler gauges yesterday, arrived today, ground down a bit but need to grind a bit more. Hopefully run my revo at the weekend if it’s not too cold
@briancarroll6245
@briancarroll6245 3 жыл бұрын
I use the tip of a cable tie, great video.
@NitroMike
@NitroMike 3 жыл бұрын
Great video series and video! It is much easier to share a video instead of explaining the entire thing over text messages every time
@broncobill3902
@broncobill3902 3 жыл бұрын
You know what works even better than chopped up feeler gauges……..solid core copper wire. Find the appropriate wire gauge size that matches the desired idle gap and use that. Much easier. 👍🏽
@IowaBudgetRCBashers
@IowaBudgetRCBashers Жыл бұрын
Thanks.. I appreciate it. Was adjusting the slide needle screw to try and adjust the idle🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@jeffwhite9392
@jeffwhite9392 Жыл бұрын
I use a number drill ( bit ) . The double idle also is a " thing " on most things carburetored ( especially motorcycles ) for which I'm now very grateful having just purchased a nitro . Thanks very much for that ; but now I'll have to watch the long version ...
@rccaraddict294
@rccaraddict294 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👏🏼
@DreamingAboutDreams
@DreamingAboutDreams 3 жыл бұрын
Damn this was good
@tomato1826
@tomato1826 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff
@jocaz
@jocaz 3 жыл бұрын
JQ, you are awesome ... and I still believe in you 😉 Small trailers to see the full movie ... it's Hollywood! Come on folks, watch the full video two or three times, and if that's not enough ... watch it again! ... and if you like, join us 🍻
@lonzerwalker6569
@lonzerwalker6569 3 жыл бұрын
What up Team,just like this world we exist in every body’s little world is king ! 😯... No what I mean is you’ve put in the WORK hence stayed in class instead of chaseing the ass (school was in) you payed ATTENTION.Maturity only blesses those that understand the relationship of VERTUE.Some people like bumping there head over and over and over again,but they think this is normal. I don’t think so,unless you like scrambled eggs for brains.Oh boy I could roll with this for a minute but I‘l’ll stop here. Hey J’ I like your STYLE your kinda like myself in way ,you give the key or IMPORTANT info up front but before your done you express it multiple times from different angles to attempt to crack the madula of the Pepe’s your dealing with.🤔... Don’t trip J’ a job is just like taking a nap,some are good or bad or ? Indifferent ? KEEP SCHOOLING EM’. (ABC’s). IT’s hard to knock ✊ a good person down.... You know the boss gave us all the tools ⚒️ to make things happen in life but he left it our choice to figure when and how to use them. Your going to be ALRIGHT and to heck with them if they can’t take a joke.🤷‍♂️. Stay up Team “God Bless ,and keep smiling”. “DW13”out.😎... GOOD JOB !!!
@joeleonard643
@joeleonard643 3 жыл бұрын
Great video JQ makes a lot of sense and one less thing to have to adjust to get a good tune, would the idle gap be the same on a .32 engine or slightly larger?
@maximuskodrrata2697
@maximuskodrrata2697 5 ай бұрын
Very good knowledge, thank you very much! For engine break in, is the first thing to pay attention to the idle gap setting too?
@CraigAndres
@CraigAndres 2 жыл бұрын
JQ brilliant info! Tried tuning my engine this way and so much easier knowing your idle gap. Engine tuning is much easier too understand since watching your videos. I will keep watching them and keep learning. Thank you again 👌💥
@nikolajc7617
@nikolajc7617 2 жыл бұрын
But you just cant use same idle gap for all engines, so what do you wanna do if you dont know it for your engine????????????????
@CraigAndres
@CraigAndres 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikolajc7617 Hi, you need to know idle gap for your specific engine! JQ gives you the idle gap for the o.s to set it perfectly. Since tuning my engine this way. I have gained power, run time and had no issues. 👍
@nikolajc7617
@nikolajc7617 2 жыл бұрын
@@CraigAndres Thats what i said.
@CraigAndres
@CraigAndres 2 жыл бұрын
The video is all about tuning o.s engines so if you own a o.s you got the idle gap, if you don't own a o.s then find the idle gap then you know. My Truggy is fast as heck and 10 minute pit stops is no problem.
@nikolajc7617
@nikolajc7617 2 жыл бұрын
@@CraigAndres lol, the title says nothing about OS engines. It was your words that made it sound like you didn't know to start with correct idle gap
@richardmclaughlin6220
@richardmclaughlin6220 2 ай бұрын
24awg is 0.51mm 25awg is .455 but hard to find might find in small motor windings but is probably coated
@ilovenythismuchilovenewyor5801
@ilovenythismuchilovenewyor5801 3 жыл бұрын
Looking 4ward to doing this to my flashpoint engine haven't even broken it in yet just need to dremmel the feeler gauge bits. No one makes ones for rc yet ??
@ct1762
@ct1762 3 жыл бұрын
so these little carbs don't have a dedicated (separate) idle circuit like a 2 stroke outboard or a 2 stroke jet ski motor i'm assuming since they are so tiny. interesting! any idea what the idle air gap should be for a dynamite .21 motor? the manual just says the idle air screw should be just in from flush on the needle body. why do you need to measure it if you can just tune it ... or will it make it too difficult to adjust when running?
@teamringo864
@teamringo864 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Joseph !!!!!! Now you just need a socal driver to rep JQ ....... like that guy Jonny Ringo LoL!!!!!
@leonardgerard2159
@leonardgerard2159 2 жыл бұрын
What about os 1/8 onroad engines, is the idle gap the same?
@Mastervenvy
@Mastervenvy Жыл бұрын
Does the 0.45/0.50/0.55 idle gap from your full video also apply to a 4.6 bigblock
@sebtarta
@sebtarta 3 жыл бұрын
i watched the full video already. Watching this again. intro song blew my ear drum out though
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
Fixed for future videos!
@keithbates8482
@keithbates8482 3 жыл бұрын
@@invisiblespeedrc So the more you lean out the lSN, the more you have to reduce the idle screw?
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
@@keithbates8482 yes, but you don't reduce the idle screw. You set it to a known idle gap. And then you adjust the LSN for the right idle RPM.
@keithbates8482
@keithbates8482 3 жыл бұрын
@@invisiblespeedrc Got you
@keithbates8482
@keithbates8482 3 жыл бұрын
@@invisiblespeedrc So once I set my idle, then I adjust the low speed for the idle
@andrewbounds8672
@andrewbounds8672 3 жыл бұрын
Can you help when I turn my idle screw it doesn’t move that much and when I break it cuts out hope you can help
@keithbates8482
@keithbates8482 3 жыл бұрын
Well I be damn, that was so simple 😯
@kennybowers7607
@kennybowers7607 7 ай бұрын
First thing to set in my opinion before even putting fuel in.
@andrewcasillas7501
@andrewcasillas7501 Жыл бұрын
Ok my 28.8 idle gap is supposed to be 0.6mm but I just check and I am way under could this effect the tune or is this one of those less is more lol.
@David-069
@David-069 2 жыл бұрын
Some people don’t even know what a tick over/idle screw is and they wonder why there nitro engine cuts out when they put on the brakes on.HEY YOU GUYS NEED TO GO WATCH JQ. cool vids man.
@petehamm7762
@petehamm7762 Жыл бұрын
Does everything here apply to gas rc engines as well?
@triipiix187
@triipiix187 2 жыл бұрын
My idle gap is 1mm but on the right I have another gap ? Any help please ? Hpi Rs4 evo 3
@Serialcrasher
@Serialcrasher 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you remove the Venturi to measure the idle gap ? Or you leave it in place in the carb’ ? Txs for your videos 👍
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 2 жыл бұрын
Remove
@avohrarocks
@avohrarocks 10 ай бұрын
Hi i have a challenge with my hpi mt2 with aG3 nitro engine. I have measured the gap and my idle gap is as per manual. High speed and low speed needle is flush with carb engine stars fine but as soon as i apply break or keep it on the ground it shuts off. What should I do? Please help
@rcbustanut2057
@rcbustanut2057 2 жыл бұрын
I have been trying to get hang of this. The manual for my Losi 8ight Buggy states that the idle gap is 1/16" to 3/16" (1.57mm to 4.78mm). That seems huge compared the 0.5mm to 0.7mm you mention lol. If the idle gap is also set too large, will that cause the car to start rolling on its own? Thanks again for these helpful videos 😎👍
@Erockspencer86
@Erockspencer86 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that would cause it to roll on its own. Also, it is worth noting that a failing clutch spring will also cause the car to walk on its own
@greenman407
@greenman407 3 жыл бұрын
When do you change your idle gap from 4.5 to 5.0 to 5.5 mm ? Perhaps when there is a change of weather ?
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
No not really. When the engine is old.
@HeliTeamOwl
@HeliTeamOwl 3 жыл бұрын
How did you measure the 0.5mm idle gap? Remove the venturi for measure? Or measure incl. the venturi?
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
Without venturi
@shavey77
@shavey77 3 жыл бұрын
Just a quick question. I have a hpi bullet and a hyper 7, both manufacturers state 1mm idle gap, are they being over generous? Would i get better results using 0.5mm gap as you suggest for the os carbs?
@gutzu265
@gutzu265 3 жыл бұрын
Try it and find out....
@abdullahq5925
@abdullahq5925 2 жыл бұрын
What is the idle gap for savage x 4.6 big block ?
@ZingZingNZ
@ZingZingNZ Жыл бұрын
Try around .7 as not a comp engine
@greenman407
@greenman407 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. Does the idle gap for a 21 size engine hold true for larger car engines like a 28 or a 32 or even a 38 ?
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know, don’t have any!
@wichitafc98
@wichitafc98 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question, there are some people ( on road racers) who want to know about the condition (has carbon on it) of the glow plug and how it effect the tune of the engine?
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
I think a damaged glow plug will make the engine run rich, so if you adjust the engine to run right, and then change to a new glow plug, the engine will run lean with the new glow plug.
@RBAERO
@RBAERO 3 жыл бұрын
Question. The idle gap doesn't change with altitude or weather conditions?
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
No
@b-luv339
@b-luv339 2 жыл бұрын
What if your running a carb insert? Do you set the gap without insert?
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 2 жыл бұрын
No, you do it like in the video
@aarontoler90
@aarontoler90 3 жыл бұрын
I’m new to nitro engines and I just bought a Losi 8ight t rtr model. In the owners manual it shows a huge idle gap. It’s the dynamite .28 engine and can you have a smaller idle gap than what the manual says to run. I’ve watched this video a bunch and I still don’t have an ear for the tuning so I’m not sure on what it is supposed to sound like at a good one stage idle. Thank you a bunch.
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
Please watch the full video. It shows it
@aarontoler90
@aarontoler90 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you jq sorry I didn’t look for more of your videos. I’m new to your channel as well thank you.
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
Please subscribe so you don’t miss stuff. You can probably run a 0.5 idle gap on that engine also
@midwestboss8808
@midwestboss8808 3 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story lean the fuck out of the high and low speed and set the gap to .5
@danielkmit4145
@danielkmit4145 3 жыл бұрын
You guys really do need to watch the whole video go back spend an hour and 20 minutes unless you already know what you’re doing
@brianlisella3924
@brianlisella3924 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know what the idle gap should be on a ke15sp koyosho engine? I just got this nitro and am new to this. I watched your video and tried to fine tune after the break in. After getting it close. Engine stalled. Wouldn’t start. I thought my tune was off , soooooo I messed with all the settings because it wouldn’t run. Ugh it was a unexpected bad glow plug. So now I’m nowhere near where I should be. There are no factory settings that I can find to get me close.
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
Start from rich side, you don't need factory settings. Set idle gap to 0.5 to start.
@brianlisella3924
@brianlisella3924 3 жыл бұрын
@@invisiblespeedrc thank you. I’ll give it a try.
@davidlp5956
@davidlp5956 3 жыл бұрын
Do you always set the idle gap with the carb restrictor removed?
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@davidlp5956
@davidlp5956 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video btw. Enjoying your book as well!
@JohnJones-vp1em
@JohnJones-vp1em 2 жыл бұрын
Just starting nitro bought a traxxas nitro. It's a pain n my ass. I need help
@Jon_Flys_RC
@Jon_Flys_RC 5 ай бұрын
Is the idle gap values in mm or inches? I have an os .30vg that I have never gotten a good idle on.
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 5 ай бұрын
mm
@Jon_Flys_RC
@Jon_Flys_RC 5 ай бұрын
@@invisiblespeedrc do you have any tips on tuning that engine? It’s always been difficult. It has a hanging idle like it won’t come off the pipe for 20-30 seconds when trying to get down to idle. At this point I think it needs a full carb reset.
@muchagrande1687
@muchagrande1687 3 жыл бұрын
Does the idle gap method also work for on road? For let's say an O.S. 2104?
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
Yes of course.
@muchagrande1687
@muchagrande1687 3 жыл бұрын
@@invisiblespeedrc Thanks, and just out of interest, what about others brands like novarossi?
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
They are all nitro engines. Of course it applies. The only difference is the best idle gap to run. And that can be found through iteration, as explained, and showed in the full version of the video.
@muchagrande1687
@muchagrande1687 3 жыл бұрын
@@invisiblespeedrc That last sentence answers my question. Sounds logical, but it's also good to have it clear that the 0.5mm does not necessarily translate directly to other engines.
@samweb1981
@samweb1981 Жыл бұрын
You set the idle gap with or with out the venturi attached?
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc Жыл бұрын
Without
@iheartnovemberful
@iheartnovemberful 3 ай бұрын
I wish i read this comment 2 days ago..lol i set it with venturi..lol i had hard time getting it to idle..lol
@iheartnovemberful
@iheartnovemberful 3 ай бұрын
Im using a 6.5 venturri my next question is after setting the gap.do i put back the venturi and tune from there?
@Glowrc
@Glowrc Жыл бұрын
Does it have to be done with engine running????
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc Жыл бұрын
Of course not. Did you watch the video?
@Glowrc
@Glowrc Жыл бұрын
@@invisiblespeedrc yeah I did but u have it separate from the engine 😅 and manual says only to do it with engine running
@damianfoster398
@damianfoster398 2 жыл бұрын
Use 8
@jamesmccabe8736
@jamesmccabe8736 2 жыл бұрын
But this is the starting point. I was watching the full feature and KZfaq distracted me. I'll go back after I watch this. Also wire gap gauge would avoid Dremel step.
@RcLEGIONClub
@RcLEGIONClub 2 жыл бұрын
works for any .21 engine?
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@RcLEGIONClub
@RcLEGIONClub 2 жыл бұрын
@@invisiblespeedrc Thanks for all the videos you make, personally they have helped me a lot!
@toddyrightonit
@toddyrightonit 4 ай бұрын
Big thing to remember here is if your servo throttle end point isn’t set correctly a lot of this is useless
@jakepaintin7215
@jakepaintin7215 2 жыл бұрын
Trx 3.3 stalls out on full throttle. Any suggestions?
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 2 жыл бұрын
Bad glowplug
@jakepaintin7215
@jakepaintin7215 2 жыл бұрын
@@invisiblespeedrc replaced it 2 times cause that's what I thought
@slicktmi
@slicktmi 5 ай бұрын
Traxxas is known for shitttyy nitro engines the carbs in them also Crack and make it impossible to tune
@blgaming6717
@blgaming6717 Жыл бұрын
What makes you think we all have dremmels at home to do this
@luigibellantoni6828
@luigibellantoni6828 Жыл бұрын
if you don't.....you shouldn't have a RC car....
@russellw5447
@russellw5447 Жыл бұрын
Use a file (a fine one).
@PhuongNguyen-fe9pm
@PhuongNguyen-fe9pm 2 жыл бұрын
the sound is not good I am quite disappointed
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 2 жыл бұрын
there is nothing wrong with it
@MahiKhan-zr2fd
@MahiKhan-zr2fd 3 ай бұрын
Hahahahaha I have the simplest way to tune any engine without any manual of nitro engine
@mauriciojaimes
@mauriciojaimes 10 ай бұрын
Get to the point
EASY WAY TO TUNE Your Nitro Engine - ANYONE Can Learn This Method
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