Wonderful Chris, lucky you!! Haha, I guess I got a bit carried away with my homework then. . . I just went off the manual Provided by Just Flight. It’s certainly lovely to see the F3 simulated in such detail; I would love to see one in MSFS, or better yet DCS. All the best! : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations I imagine that the ground crew would go through a lot of the checks before the pilot got to the plane IRL.

@@Vigulfr ahh yes, the ground crew, sadly always absent in most flight sims, but (imho) essential to give that real life experience. It woudl have been nice to seee GC marshalling the aircraft into the slot / HAS pan.

Likewise! I think it’d be number one on my list of aircraft I’d like to see in DCS. Sadly it seems anything British, post-WWII, doesn’t garner much interest from developers (and I believe it’s still hard to get all of the required documentation for most aircraft). I guess the Brits / MOD worry that someone might still want to copy some 60+ year old technology haha). I guess we are getting the Eurofighter, but I’m not toooo fussed about that personally. . . I think the tornado will be good fun in MSFS, but yeah, it really needs to be in DCS! My pleasure on the vid! Im sure it will get its chance around the Mach Loop one day ; )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah British military secrecy is a bit insane with stuff being classified for way longer then it really needs to be. I remember reading something about how parts of the Lightning are still classified (mainly its ancient radar I thnk) and that's getting on a bit now! Other countries operated the Tonka though and it'd likely be a lot easier to access say German technical manuals and such. Kinda like how the Eurofighter in development for DCS is based on a Tranche 1 German version as it's probably easier to get blood out of a stone than it is to get any detailed technical info out of the MOD (that and I think the lead dev on the Eurofighter project is a former German air force pilot)

Haha, yes, we must have read the same info - I heard exactly the same thing about the Lightnings radar. Quite amusing really! The Lightning is another jet I would love to try in DCS (though I’m not sure I’d actually want one in the sim, as I think you’d run out of things to do in it rather quickly). I see there’s a Vulcan mod coming out as well, that could be good fun! Well, fingers crossed maybe one day we’ll get the Tonka. I was just watching some stuff on the DCS Eurofighter - I’m warming to the idea. Would be good fun to try and upstage a few of those yank fighters for a change! ; ) Cheers!

Hey, if your still here, there is a Tornado IDS in the making in dcs :)

Thanks very much Dave, glad you enjoyed it! I haven't had a chance to fly the F3 myself for some time now. Have Just Flight addressed the issues with drag etc? Alas, I'm not sure I will be able to follow up any further with the aircraft, at least for the time being. I have quite a backlog of content on the channel and work has ramped up back to normal capacity again (not to mention some big life events around the corner). Sorry about that. I do hope you continue to enjoy the F3 though. Thanks again and all the best! : )

Eh no way! The man, the myth, the legend that is.......

Thanks Andy! By my estimation, the best way to enjoy a bit of virtual Tornado flying ; ) Glad you enjoyed it! All the best : )

Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed it. Haha, well you can thank everyone’s favourite virus for that. Work is verrry quiet at the moment, so I basically run the channel like a full time job (in terms of the hours I put in etc). I’m also trying to build up a catalogue of content that has yet to be released, such that I have a bit of a “buffer” moving forwards. This video for example was finished a couple of weeks ago - but I’ve only just released it now, due to other content being more topical at the time (+ some silly KZfaq copyright issues, but that’s another story. . .). So in short, yes, I’m getting my full 8 hours a night. No worries haha! ; ) Thanks very much once again, all the best : )

The F3 is a lovely effort from Just Flight (bar just a few peculiarities that still need cleaning up); but P3D is starting to feel / show its age now. I’m hoping that one day I’ll be able to show you her in a “different” sim! ; ) Cheers, all the best!

Thanks very much! Really glad you ended it : )

Haha, it will get its turn at some point, but as I’ve already run one Tornado, I think there will be a few others in the queue ahead of it ; ) The L-1011 came with the addon. You can request a tanker from the sims menu bar and voila! Refuelling is crude in terms of how it’s modelled, but it works. Cheers! All the best : )

Thanks very much Kevin, glad you enjoyed it! If I recall correctly: The scenery was Orbx True Earth Great Britain and RAF Valley was the UK2000 version of the airfield. Weather was Active Sky and I was also using a handful of other addons including Accufeel and EZCA. I hope that helps a little? All the best! : )

Great job! I have similar add on's, although I use Photo scenery..I have been flying the Just Flight Gr1 for some time, it's pretty hard to handle but very satisfying. The HuD is hard to read still but not sure what else can be done to make it clearer..

Thanks, my pleasure! Thanks for the info: I gather the fuel feed issues were fixed up (I think I have flown the aircraft since then)? It's a shame to hear that the aircraft still gives quite an FPS hit, but I suppose with it being fairly complex, there is only so much Just Flight can do on that front. Not being able to cancel the attention getter would certainly get rather annoying. Hopefully the product gets another update some time soon then. . . Cheers, all the best! : )

Hey, Pedro. Good to see you again. I still have your videos from 6 years ago. Are you planning on producing any more?

Thanks very much Pedro! It’s a good question / point you raise actually. Not being a review, I didn’t think to check the FPS and I didn’t notice any impact on smoothness at the time; but actually the aircraft is very FPS intensive. Compared with the default F-35 (under the exact same conditions), I found the F3 was costing me around 40FPS! So it is a very framerate hungry aircraft (and probably similar to the GR1 by the sounds of it). Probably not the news you wanted to hear, but I hope it’s useful info at any rate. Cheers, all the best : )

@@Tag21-ScheduleGuy Hi mate! I got a bit fed up that fsrecorder didn’t work with p3d, and the alternative solution didn’t have the functionality I needed. Also my job has become rather all consuming. I miss making videos though. I use a 2k monitor now so would need to buy an updated capture card which is another consideration. Hope you are well too!

@@pedrodowd Pedro, you should get back into video creation as you have a talent for it. I still push out about one per month, but I am also now creating military airbase scenery for MSFS and posting to Flightsim.to under the name Tag21. I do RAAF bases as I now live in Australia.

It is indeed. Yeah, happy to share. Email me at intotheblueinbox@gmail.com and I’ll get a copy of my profile over to you when I can : ) All the best

Hi Stewie, I use ActiveSky for the weather engine. For the textures it’s just default. I have enhanced atmospherics turned on, but volumetric clouds turned off (an option now available in V5.2). I find the volumetric clouds are nothing special in P3D and have quite a big hit on the frame rate - so I leave them off (I actually think the 2D sprites in P3D look quite good also). Hope that helps! : )

Hi SP, Thanks very much, I’m really glad you enjoyed the flight! I’m by no means an expert when it comes to the F3 (though I’d love to be haha), but to answer your questions to the best of my abilities (and the best of my recollection, as this flight was quite some time ago now): From memory, the Tornado has selections for HDG / CRS, as well as an autothrottle with the ability to set a target speed. The vertical mode of the autopilot, was an ALT HLD mode only. ALT HLD needs to be selected at the desired altitude and I don’t believe there is any compensation / rounding - the AP will hold whatever altitude the aircraft was at, when the ALT HLD mode is engaged. Speed can be pre-selected and the autothrottle will adjust accordingly. Regarding external stores, that’s rather outside my scope of knowledge; most pictures online would seem to confirm your assertion, though there does seem to be a couple of pics with an F3 in the configuration depicted by the Just Flight addon. Presumably, the config depicted by Just Flight is a potential, though little used setup on the F3. . . Many thanks again! I hope the above clarified things a little. All the best : )

The F3 had flare dispensers on the engine doors aft of the fuselage missile launchers. During Op Telic the F3 flew with a towed radar decoy unit, which in this video would be the LH outboard pylon and a Phimat chaff dispenser on the other outboard pylon. Regarding 1435 flt loadout, if i remember correctly 4 x AMRAAM, 2 x ASRAAM and the gun. There was never any outboard pylons fitted and I have never seen any weapons carried on the outboard positions on the F3 or GR Tornados. Outboard pylons had chaff and flare dispensers and ecm pods in my time with them.

Haha - well someone else mentioned that in actuality, the engines are quite quiet when heard from the cockpit (so maybe that needs adjusting by JF). I’ve no idea if that’s true or not - sadly never sat in the cockpit. I have been next to one on the ramp though and I can confirm it lived up to its name there! : D

@@IntotheBlueSimulations As a GC engineer who also flew back seat, the sounds from outside are dramatic but once the canopy is closed, it is altogether a different kettle of fish. You become much less aware of the immediacy of the forces and stresses that are involved normal operation. For me, the most obvious sounds inside were: Sounds of breathing (and throwing up lol) , RT and that blasted lyrebird. Engine noise,although present, had a minor impact,

Very interesting, thanks again Tony! Makes sense I guess, with most of the noisy bits being sat behind you. . . Was there a lot of air noise at high speed? Hahaha - I’m sure I’d have been making a right racket with the sick bag XD Cheers : )

Do you mean you purchased the GR1 David? (this is the P3D version of the F3 : ) Navigation worked fine for me (using the GPS). TACAN I think it’s the same issue as MSFS; ie the sim is the issue, as opposed to the aircraft (please correct me if I’m wrong though)? I haven’t had a chance to try TACAN in the F3, I’d imagine it’s a no-go though. Cheers!

Wouldn’t that be great Gerd! I suspect we’ll get the Tornado at some point, might have to be patient though (really hoping we’ll see JF’s Vulcan also!). . . Cheers, all the best : )

Thanks as always James! Haha, spelling looks fine to me. . . I’ve actually just finished recording a couple of Mach Loop runs that I know you will enjoy (not sure when I’ll be uploading them though) - P3D looking and running quite nicely now I think, with my new PC and having updated to V5.2. All the best! : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations cool man, will you do a run in a mig 21 it be cool, cheers all the best!

@@IntotheBlueSimulations how about a red arrow will you do that, nice one cheers!!;

Yep, I would certainly like to do a MiG-21! In fact, that was the original plan when I did the MiG-23. Unfortunately I couldn’t find a decent / reasonably priced option for the MiG-21 though at the time. I see there is a very nice MiG-21 for P3D now; it’s too pricey for just the one video, but I might get in touch with the developer and see if they can help out ; ) Cheers!

Planning on doing the Hawk as well, but might wait for the Just Flight version to come to MSFS for that one : ) Thanks for the suggestions!

Haha, well thanks man! Flight instructing is actually something I would love to get into one day, so you never know! . . ; ) All the best!

I’m certainly no expert (I’m okay with the probe in DCS, not so hot with the boom method though) but like most things, I think it’s just a question of practice. I think in *some* respects, it’s actually probably a little easier in reality; you have more visual cues in your peripheral vision, a better sense of depth and relative speed, as well as more granular control of the aircraft (when compared with the average sim controls / setup). Of course there are other aspects of the real-world that make it more difficult; atmospheric conditions, wake turbulence etc. I find its much harder to pull off in other sims vs DCS. I think many other sims lack the fidelity in their flight modelling to really make it work. It was tough going trying to hold station with the L1011 here for example. Agreed though; hats off to the ladies and gents that actually manage to do it! I would love to have a go myself, just to see if I could pull it off haha. Guess I’ll just have to make do with DCS though. . . ; ) Cheers! : )

Yes! I would love to see this bird in MSFS. As Just Flight are bringing their Hawk across, I expect the Tornado might get the same treatment at some point : ) Cheers James, all the best!

@@IntotheBlueSimulations and i would love to see it on Xbox too! just like DC Design is doing for their F15 and F14! thanks a lot man, all the best to you to, stay safe! :D

Absolutely! The more the merrier! : D

I have played GTA V, but only very briefly and many years ago + think I only tried one of the passenger jets. Overall I would say there isn’t too much to compare. Not to say one is “better” than the other, but an addon such as this has a lot more fidelity in terms of its flight modelling (as well as its systems etc). If I recall correctly, GTA whilst very smooth and pleasant to fly, was somewhat basic in terms of the more advanced parts of the flight model (it may be that things have come on a long way since I tried it though)? I think it would be the same as comparing GTA V driving, with IRacing, RFactor etc. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, but one does a much better job at recreating real-world characteristics of course. P3D is quite an old sim now though and starting to show its age. The F3 is a lovely offering from Just Flight, but the sim holds it back a little bit - P3D graphics aren’t great and it stutters a bit etc. If you want to get as close as possible (in a sim) to flying one of these types of aircraft, DCS would once again be the best way to go in my opinion. If you can fly them in GTA V, whilst the systems might take some time to get used to, I expect you’d most likely have the aptitude to fly them in any sim. Does that answer your question Matt, or was I just rambling haha? All the best : )

Thanks very much for the info, Ade! Live and learn. . . Much appreciated and all the best to you : )

Hi Jeffrey, The short answer is; a bit of study haha! I am a real pilot, though sadly on nothing nearly this exciting - obviously it helps give me a bit of baseline knowledge though. I’ve enjoyed flight simming for almost as long as I can remember, so I’m pretty used to sitting down with a manual and figuring a new aircraft out. Usually it’s really a case of learning the differences, as most aircraft have quite a bit in common. The F3 was actually one of the trickier aircraft I’ve had to learn to date though. For a video like this, typically it will take me about a day of reading + practice and I’ll have enough of a grip on the aircraft that I’m happy to record. Obviously very geeky to some, but I very much enjoy it! All the best! : )

Haha, maybe KZfaq thinks my videos simply aren’t worth it. Ah well, “better late than never” as they say. . . (no wonder it’s so hard to grow a KZfaq channel though haha). Yeah, the Tornado is awesome. The JF version could do with a couple of tweaks to the flight model, but overall it’s really nice. Hopefully we’ll see it in the “other sim” at some point ; ) All the best!

@@IntotheBlueSimulations Well, I'd like to see and fly it in MSFS2020. And I'm not sure what to do regarding the algorythm. After all my engagement and watchtime are really high...

Haha, nothing to be done I don’t think. If people with millions of subscribers fall foul of the algorithm, I don’t think little old me is going to have much interest from it. It’s amazing I get a single view whatsoever in that context! XD I guess I’ll try and remember to start posting new uploads on the Discord, that’ll at least give yourself and a few others a heads up : )

@@IntotheBlueSimulations I do have to say your channel is doing quite well, considering flight sims are quite the niche market. But yes I'd appreciate some announcements on Discord. That would definitely help out. Cheers!

Oh, is that so Artful? Is that from personal experience or something you read / heard? The closest I’ve ever gotten to one, was sadly only on the ramp - had no problem hearing it there though! XD Cheers, all the best : )

Haha! Luckily I think the RAF have highly trained personnel; rather than a wombat like me - sitting there reading his way through the checklist. We’d have been doomed otherwise XD Cheers, all the best! : )

Actually, we had/have a concept of QRA. All these pre-flight checks are already carried out (at least they were in my Tornado days, I see no reason why that is not still the case in the current AD aircaft) long before the scramble command is issued. Aircrew and groundcrew alike are jettisend into life by a God-awful klaxon and the jets can be airborne in a matter on minutes. (I am being very careful here not to give away anything that is not in the public domian or obvious)

Thanks very much for the info Tony - I had rather assumed that might actually be the case hehe. I had another F3 pilot comment that he has never carried out many of these checks; I presumed many of them were probably engineering functions. I did actually have the pleasure many years ago, of observing / helping the ground crew get one of these beasts turned around on the ground and it was definitely all a bit more expeditious. . . and noisy haha!! Must have a been an amazing aircraft to operate! Thanks very much once again. Much appreciated! All the best : )

Hi SD, Am I good at MSFS? Well, I’d like to think I’m alright haha. Certainly, the vast majority of my content is recorded in MSFS. No Tornado for the new sim yet, sadly, but it sounds like we should have a couple of options for the Tonka soon enough : ) Cheers, all the best!