Just Go Play Path of Exile | Quin Reacts

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Timestamps:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:13 Comparing with Path of Exile
00:02:25 Diablo 4 progression
00:03:24 Stash tabs and loot management
00:05:02 Lack of quick-drop function
00:06:01 Criticizing the skill tree system
00:06:35 Paragon system
00:07:16 Less content and convenience
00:07:28 Fun of early game
00:08:48 Mid-game and honeymoon phase end
00:09:10 Discussion on meta shift in games like World of Warcraft
00:09:43 Lack of significance and practical usage for certain game components
00:10:11 Praising Path of Exile currency system
00:12:17 Criticizing lack of player-driven economy and broken cooperation in Diablo 4
00:15:41 Questioning completion and polish of the game despite recent release
00:15:51 Issue of monetization and microtransactions
00:16:04 Repetitive dungeons and lack of map overlay
00:16:48 Repeated need to check map and resulting backtracking
00:16:57 Why not just play Path of Exile instead?
00:18:20 Hardcore and Path of Exile
00:19:12 Issues with Hardcore and Cheat Death
00:20:23 Comparing Diablo 4 and Path of Exile
00:23:50 Game becoming boring over time
00:24:31 Reason to buy Diablo 4
00:25:02 Recycled bosses and map progression
00:27:44 Level scaling and impact on power fantasy
00:28:29 Repetitive loot and customization
00:28:46 No stash capacity and tedious inventory management
00:29:34 Critiques of the video and comparison to Path of Exile
00:30:03 No reason to purchase the game now
00:30:34 Game should have been released later
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Пікірлер: 532
@konzen2005
@konzen2005 10 ай бұрын
Just read the patch note for D4 Season 1. - Fixed an issue where players are enjoying Diablo 4. - Adjusted the player base to play PoE more.
@dIggl3r
@dIggl3r 10 ай бұрын
I don't play D4, so I don't know if season 1 will be great or not. That being said I'm one of the many waiting to see if D4 will get more content and excellent seasons, to buy and actually get into D4, and I get the impression I'll have to wait at least another 3 months before jumping into it. (its a good thing I'm a hardcore POE player though)
@excaligaming2435
@excaligaming2435 10 ай бұрын
@@dIggl3r I mean, right now, even after inhaling copium all the way, there is nothing else to realize, that s1 will actually be absolute garbage tier and the game doesn't get any fixes, no matter small or big for completely arbitrary reasons.
@iamplay797
@iamplay797 10 ай бұрын
😂 funny but na poe is old news .perhaps poe2 will be good but i don't think so it will be made for streamers and no life gamers is my guess
@mattkaiser8984
@mattkaiser8984 10 ай бұрын
This retarded joke is on every comment section
@jiffsed1633
@jiffsed1633 10 ай бұрын
No real content being added, wow 7 gems so cool…. Game needs a few years
@lucasmartins2969
@lucasmartins2969 10 ай бұрын
Quins takes literally are "D4 doesn't suck, ok it kind of sucks, but they just need to change all these things that they are never gonna change, and it could be kind of good"
@piffi9431
@piffi9431 10 ай бұрын
His takes are generally shit, as are the majority of the mainstream content creators & streamers. It is entertaining to see how out of touch he is tho. As it is watching the majority of the other trogladytes.
@truuuupR
@truuuupR 10 ай бұрын
He intentionally seems to go against the opinion of the content he's watching. Almost like playing devils advocate but a more troll version of it.
@uhmmmFU
@uhmmmFU 10 ай бұрын
@@truuuupR Most streamers/content creators have Oppositional Defiant Disorder. Probably part of the reason they're streaming instead of doing a normal job where they have to listen to a boss. Quin has even said, "when someone tells me not to do something it just makes me do that thing."
@flipnshifty
@flipnshifty 10 ай бұрын
He should listen to himself. Its getting kindof emberrassing
@flipnshifty
@flipnshifty 10 ай бұрын
@@truuuupR he constantly contradicts himself 3 seconds later, maybe it's because of twitch chat but i think he doesnt give a fuck about what twitch chat says, if you can see the comments lol.
@LokirofRoriksted
@LokirofRoriksted 10 ай бұрын
if you search for contradiction in the oxford dictionary, right below "examples" you'll only see "quin69" written. Every single improvement to diablo4 or a simple sugestion like "allow offline mode/map overlay" and quin goes "LOOK AT THIS DOGSHIT! WHAT IS THIS GUY TALKIN ABOUT? NAH! YA THINK YA WANT THIS, BUT YA DONTA BRAH" meanwhile, he plays running on dead ends and dying to DCs
@DanielGonzalez-xo4vs
@DanielGonzalez-xo4vs 10 ай бұрын
You would figure the multi billion dollar company, who invented the genre, that charged over $70, with in-game currency, multiple battle pass system and some of the most expensive cosmetic packages from a AAA ARPG game would be closer to their competitors from the start line then what we are currently witnessing. I’m sure though after 4 seasons they may be closer to what other ARPGs were at years ago but this is sad that people think this is fine from a huge gaming and OG company…
@xhali2953
@xhali2953 10 ай бұрын
Imagine having blizzard's infinite money vault and brand recognition at your disposal and your $70+ end product is somehow worse than what some bald dude and a few of his best mates cooked up in their actual garage lol. and that's not even to compare modern poe to "new" d4 (as if blizzard deserves that excuse to begin with). I would legitimately rather play poe v1.0 over diablo 4 season 1
@Frittrich
@Frittrich 10 ай бұрын
None of the people at blizzard that invented the genre are still working there. Only the name is left
@DanielGonzalez-xo4vs
@DanielGonzalez-xo4vs 10 ай бұрын
@@Frittrich I understand your point. But the same can be said about Nintendo and I don’t see anyone out Mario’ing them.
@DanielGonzalez-xo4vs
@DanielGonzalez-xo4vs 10 ай бұрын
@@xhali2953 ouch POE 1.0. Same acts 3 times, no ascendancy, lag, drop frames, server issues… yeah that’s saying quite a lot lol.
@xhali2953
@xhali2953 10 ай бұрын
@@DanielGonzalez-xo4vs yeah, maps and skilltree carried pretty hard back then, it was still a better experience. did the gritty atmosphere and storytelling better than D4 too, although poe lore has gotten pretty silly since. I will concede that desync was an absolute cancer and made the game shit to deal with lol. fortunately our /oos macros are long since dead
@pdpMASTERP
@pdpMASTERP 10 ай бұрын
They will 100% sell stash tabs at some point. Might be a year or 2 down the road, but they 100% will
@flipnshifty
@flipnshifty 10 ай бұрын
Disgusting, I play one game all the time. And its Path of Exile.
@heqitao
@heqitao 10 ай бұрын
Sell stash tabs? It's a $70 game! You should start with triple the current amount, and then get more free per season.
@aeowinh
@aeowinh 10 ай бұрын
@@heqitao That will make sense, but sense don't make money so they won't do it.
@FocusFactor99
@FocusFactor99 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely and it isn't even debatable as it isn't technically "pay to win". It's intended this way.
@lautarotrefilio4773
@lautarotrefilio4773 10 ай бұрын
why not just make stash tabs buyable with gold by the way, this is the fault of the players, not the devs devs are just adapting to gamer brainrot
@PedroMartinez-mv4hx
@PedroMartinez-mv4hx 10 ай бұрын
It is surprising, how he can ramp up in the braindead takes
@Lobexx
@Lobexx 10 ай бұрын
He’s ramping
@getusome6776
@getusome6776 10 ай бұрын
quin copping so hard for d4
@rundown132
@rundown132 10 ай бұрын
lol and all the other d4 content creators
@cband8030
@cband8030 10 ай бұрын
👮‍♂️
@TravisH-nm9fy
@TravisH-nm9fy 10 ай бұрын
simping*
@uhmmmFU
@uhmmmFU 10 ай бұрын
Hoping the game stays popular long enough for them to do another mount-gift sub tie in LOL
@game_jinx
@game_jinx 10 ай бұрын
minute 8-9 was literally word salad vomit soup. sad
@garlara7244
@garlara7244 10 ай бұрын
''It is what it is'' and ''Just do not care'' are the worst takes, that a hardcore gamer can ever claim about a ''game'', that he continuously plays for lots of hours. Quin's philosophy is on some really, really rotten level, ngl. Well, modern gaming is modern gaming - it is what it is, I guess.
@IZZY404_
@IZZY404_ 10 ай бұрын
This title couldnt be more true now boys. See ya on the fields of Wraeclast brothers.
@Th3_n3rdtavrn
@Th3_n3rdtavrn 10 ай бұрын
Just hit level 10. The size of this skill tree is absolutely insane but I can already tell the build diversity is going to absolutely blow d4 out of the water.
@dirtydard4870
@dirtydard4870 10 ай бұрын
Quin not even listening to the video and just making up points to rebutt a strawman
@WatsonThePug69
@WatsonThePug69 10 ай бұрын
He’s cooked
@nviwraith5271
@nviwraith5271 10 ай бұрын
classic
@chrizzlybearlol
@chrizzlybearlol 10 ай бұрын
Why do you watch a person you hate?
@uhmmmFU
@uhmmmFU 10 ай бұрын
@@chrizzlybearlol Quin good d4 bad
@jiffsed1633
@jiffsed1633 10 ай бұрын
Diablo 4 is EA it’s terrible haha 😅
@antonego9581
@antonego9581 10 ай бұрын
The best thing about me buying diablo 4 was it led me to try path of exile and now im utterly addicted And quin, the reason you don't need a map overlay in d4 is because the dungeons layouts are copy paste dogshit
@meandtheboyz4796
@meandtheboyz4796 10 ай бұрын
Baseg
@ponytoast1231
@ponytoast1231 10 ай бұрын
They are also copy paste dog shit in PoE though. Once you played enough you just know the layout of all the maps anyway.
@1TotalJabroni
@1TotalJabroni 10 ай бұрын
​@@ponytoast1231sure, great point, if you ignore the context of the surrounding games. D4 is a puddle that might one day be a swimming pool. PoE is an ocean that will one day be a better, deeper ocean.
@1TotalJabroni
@1TotalJabroni 10 ай бұрын
Happy you found PoE. Great timing too, with Exilecon coming up and a ton of PoE2 content soon to be revealed.
@ponytoast1231
@ponytoast1231 10 ай бұрын
@@1TotalJabroni A comparison between poe and diablo4 is irrelevant in context. The point is that the overlay is truly kind of not needed, in both Diablo4 and PoE.
@denismdde8114
@denismdde8114 10 ай бұрын
After reading d4 patch notes - my first thought was just login into poe and do RF build to chill out.
@sebastianabk2705
@sebastianabk2705 10 ай бұрын
Been done with the league for 1 month now and I just read the d4 patch notes too and The first thing I wanted to do is hop on poe and do a build from scratch and I dont even play d4..
@kaspersnderskov3120
@kaspersnderskov3120 10 ай бұрын
@@sebastianabk2705 Yea I've been checking poe site regularly for any droplets of the next season info bits lately. Now even more reason to. Maybe i should try out Last Epoch, see how far the early access has gotten. Bound to be in a better shape than D4 >.
@ThisIsSparta300
@ThisIsSparta300 10 ай бұрын
What's an rf build in Poe?
@jordanwalker3617
@jordanwalker3617 10 ай бұрын
​@@ThisIsSparta300righteous fire, a skill that burns you and deals damage over time to you but creates an aura around you that burns anything else with fire damage over time that steps within the area.
@turbanheadless
@turbanheadless 8 ай бұрын
Make your own build. Pfft
@Ziutu01
@Ziutu01 10 ай бұрын
Classic Qiun... calling everybody Andy even though they are not Andy. Oh my! But guy in the review made few good points not gonna lie!
@flipnshifty
@flipnshifty 10 ай бұрын
I think he's just baiting people to comment about his contradicting takes, first he says PoE is a better game and 1 minute later he calls him a PoE Andy
@MaxCCNP
@MaxCCNP 10 ай бұрын
Conspiracy theory: D4 is sponsoring Quin to speak positive about D4, he is trying his best but he's failing. The game is that bad.
@flipnshifty
@flipnshifty 10 ай бұрын
I think he's just procastinating getting back to poe, cause he knows he won't be going back to d4 ever again. And i can understand he wants to play something else for a month or so if you've played poe for 10k hours. I just wouldnt play d4 myself.
@slimi_jimi
@slimi_jimi 10 ай бұрын
shh (lol)
@ericswanson411
@ericswanson411 10 ай бұрын
What gets me for D4 is the play-your-way crap Blizzard tried to sell. It's not play your way, it is play these skills, and you might have a good build. Their idea of balancing is convoluted. Nerf what everyone is playing into the gutter and leave everything else alone. How is that balancing? The map overlay is not needed. When I was a teen, Diablo 1 had been out for 6 years, and the maps were randomized. Well, I'll tell you if you play a game enough, you will memorize the maps in the game and not need an overlay map. I played Diablo so much that if I saw the villager at the entrance to the cathedral, I knew I was facing the Butcher and had a 30% chance for the Lochdonan quest and the Demon General that guarded the stairs to the thirteenth floor to spawn, and 20% chance to get the elixir quest as well as the hell forge quest. Inventory management has always been an issue in the Diablo series; after 27 years, they still don't get it.
@King-gh4jj
@King-gh4jj 10 ай бұрын
Whats your opinion on Actman review?
@malm1231
@malm1231 10 ай бұрын
health bar over my character would be nice but - I want to see the actual amount of health and mana I have... like THE NUMERICAL VALUES is that really asking too much jeez
@piotr7805
@piotr7805 10 ай бұрын
10000% Activision Shitzard is not going to miss a chance to sell you stash-tabs. How gullible can you be, to underestimate their greed and complete lack of interest in player experience.
@grimmjowthepantera
@grimmjowthepantera 10 ай бұрын
70-100 dollar for 0 content is cool !
@Koreryn
@Koreryn 10 ай бұрын
Play a new class for a new experience. This your first ARPG?
@ddGrandahl
@ddGrandahl 10 ай бұрын
​@@Koreryn playing the same shit campaign to grind some boring ass dungeon isn't new content. Is this YOUR first arpg?
@Koreryn
@Koreryn 10 ай бұрын
@ddGrandahl You get to skip the campaign after you beat it once. So not sure what you're talking about. Also if you don't find the gameplay loop fun then quit. I level in the PvP area. PvP is all the content I need. Go back to PoE.
@FirstBornConservative
@FirstBornConservative 10 ай бұрын
​@@ddGrandahlgameplay is clearly better with d4, you sound new to arpgs, or someone who got into poe late. Poe is basically just mapping, gut that and it's some solo arpgs. Diablo 4 is greater in size and scale. In 10 years d4 will have more content and more shit to do as well... It's baseline as an arpg is many folds past any other arpg. It just needs content, content that's on a 3 month cycle... So 4 major updates per year not many games outside of poe are capable.
@grimmjowthepantera
@grimmjowthepantera 10 ай бұрын
@@Koreryn perfect for you 0 IQ game for casual trash its ok . :)
@TheMirrorYouDeserve
@TheMirrorYouDeserve 10 ай бұрын
What does Quin think about Diablo 3 before seasons? he played it for a really long time though, wasn't it a good time?
@MyDeadAlbatross
@MyDeadAlbatross 10 ай бұрын
Okayge *plays superior game*
@tvlyt444
@tvlyt444 10 ай бұрын
Well, I heard that David Brevik and the Schaeffer brothers from Blizzard North (diablo2) are attending Exilecon ... that's a huge win for PoE 2 . Diablo 4 depends on what the investors do next, they got some revenue now. They could leave it as is, they could do minimal maintenance, or they could reinvest into D4 and give carte blanche to the devs for a couple of years (unlikely). The fact that they are hiring for all positions is not a good sign after release.
@Himbayo
@Himbayo 10 ай бұрын
Yep, Poe is a good game.
@alain4037
@alain4037 10 ай бұрын
I tried to make a second character but i have no stash space for any item. No filtering. I couldn't play it any further
@1TotalJabroni
@1TotalJabroni 10 ай бұрын
Don't worry, friend! Surely more stash space is on the way soon. Oh, nope, just checked, it isn't. 😮 Well, at least there will _surely_ be seperate storage for the new seasonal "caged heart" items, so it won't be any worse! Oh, no to that as well.. 😮 Well...well, they did a large balance pass, so AT LEAST now there will be some new builds to mess around and experiment on. Oh, all nerfs and zero meaningful changes to all the dogshit skills? 😢
@bwhere45
@bwhere45 10 ай бұрын
If you're using up every single available inventory slot on a single character you have a hoarding problem, not an inventory problem.
@0BlitZKieG0
@0BlitZKieG0 10 ай бұрын
​@@bwhere45 yes it could be but l like to have items for same class and new character but different builds and thats becomes a problem.
@bwhere45
@bwhere45 10 ай бұрын
@@0BlitZKieG0 which would make sense if respecing is this game wasn't ungodly to do. The inventory is shit, but you're making it so much harder on yourself for no reason.
@sipofsunkist9016
@sipofsunkist9016 10 ай бұрын
ya id say the orb currency system in PoE is fantastic! probably the biggest reason i play it. it scares me that poe2 will have gold. i hope that it is ONLY used for npc shops
@nicoinformatics
@nicoinformatics 9 ай бұрын
They added gold into the existing system, they're not changing how currencies work in POE2, but yeah, probably for just certain mechanic/trade.
@xLuye
@xLuye 9 ай бұрын
I believe it was confirmed that it's only for vendors. Though they are changing how chaos orbs work + removing scouring orbs in order to make rare drops more meaningful. The pitch for it was intriguing, but will see if it plays out as fun or not in the end :D
@Ghreyl
@Ghreyl 8 ай бұрын
IIRC gold was mostly as a uniform base currency. PoE doesn't really have a standard trading currency for vendors, and having that with the current items still being used for trading and crafting sounds good.
@pdpMASTERP
@pdpMASTERP 10 ай бұрын
Hate watching again... Kinda sad to see how much hate quin has in him these days..
@TwujStary69420
@TwujStary69420 10 ай бұрын
Guy started insulting his favourite game so he naturally got defensive
@flipnshifty
@flipnshifty 10 ай бұрын
I play one game all the time. And its Path of Exile. It's just incredibly interesting design, maybe by luck, or coincedence. But it's almost a perfect game imo.
@leakypipe86
@leakypipe86 10 ай бұрын
ok
@vinniv6806
@vinniv6806 10 ай бұрын
it's not
@vinniv6806
@vinniv6806 10 ай бұрын
and... who asked?
@Glace077
@Glace077 10 ай бұрын
All roads lead to rsi
@jerrytnu
@jerrytnu 10 ай бұрын
Good for you now F off
@ashvalkyriee
@ashvalkyriee 10 ай бұрын
HOLY he is jumping through an obscene amount of hoops to justify sinking months into a game that was dead on arrival kekw
@BeautifulPen
@BeautifulPen 10 ай бұрын
Holy this game makes PoE look so good
@gbisula11
@gbisula11 10 ай бұрын
Implying poe is bad...?
@FocusFactor99
@FocusFactor99 10 ай бұрын
​@@gbisula11 are we really going to pretend poe players haven't just been guinea pigs for poe2 for the last year+ of season content? It's been rough.
@jumper163
@jumper163 10 ай бұрын
This last year has been great, sanctum was the best league mechanic the have ever come up with imo
@Koreryn
@Koreryn 10 ай бұрын
PoE is optimized like shit though.
@BrokenxPvP
@BrokenxPvP 10 ай бұрын
POE has TRASH combat/gameplay loop tho. PoE has god tier end game systems and amount of content but the fundamental gameplay is terrible imo
@Castnicke
@Castnicke 10 ай бұрын
I get noob energy from quin
@petardinjo
@petardinjo 10 ай бұрын
FEEL THE WEIGHT
@Varadex1
@Varadex1 10 ай бұрын
"Inventory Tetris?" Yea Quin? You might actually be good at Tetris if all the pieces were the same size and shape like in D4.
@guydevilish5748
@guydevilish5748 10 ай бұрын
Boosting is great because my wife and i have a kid. When one of us is busy the other can play and still progress through the game with the other in tow.
@flipnshifty
@flipnshifty 10 ай бұрын
lol that twitch comment @ 24:53 "😆australian noises"
@viridius
@viridius 10 ай бұрын
I don’t need map overlay, but I’d like multiple waypoints.
@brentwood2356
@brentwood2356 10 ай бұрын
Stash tabs in D4 is horrendous, but you still gotta pay a substantial amount of money to acquire all the necessary tabs in POE - That ain't free at all buddy ol' pal
@Braxtonkai
@Braxtonkai 10 ай бұрын
20 bucks. Starter pack blood strike something, stash tabs and an mtx and 20 bucks worth of points to spend on others stuff, more than a fair deal
@1TotalJabroni
@1TotalJabroni 10 ай бұрын
It's true eventually you need to buy a lot of PoE stash tabs if you play a lot, but the thing is, you can probably play the game for dozens if not hundreds of hours before you need to make that decision. And yes, that is pay-to-win, but p2w is a spectrum, and there's a huge difference between paying for convenience, quality of life, and cosmetics, versus p2w for in-game power.
@DickerehikariDuck
@DickerehikariDuck 9 ай бұрын
@@1TotalJabroni to make the story short? POE stash tabs arent free :)
@daanstrik4293
@daanstrik4293 2 ай бұрын
I played POE for 1000 hours before I spent a single euro in it. Granted, thats because I was bad at the game (still am, but a little less). And it was rough at times. But getting 50-100 hours in without spending anything is fairly reasonable. And when you do, you can spend €20 for the essentials. Ooor you can spent what you did on diablo and get a ton of quality of life + cosmetics. The difference here is the barrier to entry. Even if the two games were exactly the same in quality (which they’re not. POE is far ahead at the moment. And it look like it will remain in that position for at least in the near future) POE is free to try. And the only thing diablo has to compensate is better graphics (which might even be a downside if you’ve got a shit PC). The big downside of F2P games where both Pay2Win mechanics (which POE firmly lacks due to its PVE nature) and Microtransactions. And well, Diablo isn’t lacking in microtransactions.
@mattwill879
@mattwill879 10 ай бұрын
"Inventory tetris is great." Agreed.
@ThEcLoStRoBiDi
@ThEcLoStRoBiDi 10 ай бұрын
Hi Quinton ❤ You lovely little Blizz fangirl.
@Beardymanlol
@Beardymanlol 10 ай бұрын
We know this was inevitable. It breaks my brain that the same people who can make all the good of this game, yet still not understand what will happen with nerfing CDR values
@kS-ic4rf
@kS-ic4rf 10 ай бұрын
I didn’t have fun lvls to lvl 64 out of pure spite
@trey.3d
@trey.3d 10 ай бұрын
If paragon is super simple, what is over complicated about it? It’s really easy to understand and super impactful to develop your late game playstyle. There are near limitless options on the way to maxing out all your stat points. I don’t see the argument you’re making
@justespelund
@justespelund 10 ай бұрын
I will never understand why people are against having an overlay map... Even if its in the game, you don't personally have to use it, because as you say, you don't think its needed. I see no negative here, many people want it, adding it would make those people happy. Many people don't think they need it, even if its in the game, they can just not use it. Where is the downside to adding it, unless I am missing something?
@bwhere45
@bwhere45 10 ай бұрын
There's a myriad of far more pressing issues that need to be addressed instead of what would be an almost lateral quality of life change for a minority of the playerbase. People aren't against the idea; they just don't care about the same things you do.
@justespelund
@justespelund 10 ай бұрын
@@bwhere45 Ohh yeah I totally agree that there are far more pressing issues, that doesn't mean you can't bring it up as a topic though? And one of the arguments people have against and overlay map is literally that people would use it all the time and not look at the art, which means its such a huge qol that you'd be at a disadvantage to not use it.
@bwhere45
@bwhere45 10 ай бұрын
@@justespelund for me right now, an overlay map would be like trying to get A/C in a car with no windows, roof, is driving on 4 spar tires, and is almost out of gas. Yes, A/C would be a great addition to have, but holy shit this car (D4) has so many other pressing issues.
@justespelund
@justespelund 10 ай бұрын
@@bwhere45 Again I agree, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be in the conversation though.. Other more pressing problems doesn't mean less important ones can't be brought up.
@7opher619
@7opher619 8 ай бұрын
@@justespelund See, I think the AC is actually too important as a component of a vehicle. It would have been apt to use something like the overhead light as the example. With that being said, if you think an overhead light should be a part of the conversation where you are talking about getting the car to a drivable state you are crazy. No sane person would even bring that up, and if they did EVERYONE would look at them like "WuT mAtE?".
@Luthair
@Luthair 10 ай бұрын
I spend about half my time in D4 staring at the minimap because there isn't an overlay.
@Skilez
@Skilez 10 ай бұрын
i agree, D4 should have cooked for another year but what would that accomplish? then it would have to directly compete against PoE2 and after the recent presentation of it i think we can all agree how that would have turned out for blizzard...
@sephrinx4958
@sephrinx4958 10 ай бұрын
I can't wait to play PoE :)
@Koreryn
@Koreryn 10 ай бұрын
Go play then. Game is boring until PoE2
@wellwhale
@wellwhale 10 ай бұрын
@@Korerynand d4 is boring untill season 30 or some shit
@Koreryn
@Koreryn 10 ай бұрын
@@wellwhale I'm having a blast in D4. All I do is PvP. That's all I need.
@legobuilder3578
@legobuilder3578 10 ай бұрын
@@Koreryn LMFAO imagine playing D4 for the pvp
@Koreryn
@Koreryn 10 ай бұрын
@@legobuilder3578 It's literally the best part of the game. Also the most fun.
@sheen423
@sheen423 10 ай бұрын
Quinn said something I agree with - variety! The reason we do not play POE all day - variety!
@meandtheboyz4796
@meandtheboyz4796 10 ай бұрын
I never watched him when he plays POE, never watched him when he plays D4. I know the content is basically chat making fun of quin, but still.
@1TotalJabroni
@1TotalJabroni 10 ай бұрын
​@@meandtheboyz4796watching Quin play PoE is honestly my favorite thing. Watching him brute force some dogshit build for hundreds of hours until it becomes impossibly tanky is genuinely entertaining to me, but I'm a massive PoE degenerate myself
@meandtheboyz4796
@meandtheboyz4796 10 ай бұрын
@@1TotalJabroni The problem is I don't play POE or D4. So all I see on screen is just a character spamming attacks (too fast for me to register) until he dies (which is also too fast for me to register).
@flipnshifty
@flipnshifty 10 ай бұрын
But I do play poe all day
@Xeit
@Xeit 10 ай бұрын
Grim Dawn, Last Epoh, even damn Lost Ark if you want (just quit Lost Ark after 30h bcs p2w grind). This games exist.
@GODLIKE2253
@GODLIKE2253 10 ай бұрын
pen island
@ayoCC
@ayoCC 10 ай бұрын
Is diablo 4 going to have a discount in like a year
@KnowThatIDontKnowYou
@KnowThatIDontKnowYou 10 ай бұрын
they’ll probably add it to gamepass first.
@StephenSchusterE
@StephenSchusterE 10 ай бұрын
You have to pay for Season Rewards so if they add stash tabs you are paying for them....
@rawrproductions5963
@rawrproductions5963 10 ай бұрын
its simple, Why you dont play PoE instead? the current league is basically in its death cycle so D4 has the novelty of recency bias
@D3Fanatic
@D3Fanatic 10 ай бұрын
I played through D4. Beat the game. Have to be honest, I think the story is the only thing going for it. Tried to do season one, but started playing Battlebit Remastered instead.
@devalonian
@devalonian 10 ай бұрын
How long are you going to simp for d4?
@Spacecoke
@Spacecoke 8 ай бұрын
The question is.. would you log into diablo 4 if you wasn't a streamer with an audience of people who want you to play diablo?
@magwes
@magwes 10 ай бұрын
... how much is he trading for in poe?
@chrisditmi7119
@chrisditmi7119 10 ай бұрын
cant wait for the next poe league !
@vandersexstifler
@vandersexstifler 10 ай бұрын
this Quin dude is the absolute KING of Copium
@emil4me
@emil4me 10 ай бұрын
Why is that dude even making a video about D4 when he can "go play POE" xD
@DickerehikariDuck
@DickerehikariDuck 9 ай бұрын
man-kid needs drama and validation on their lives so that they won't get depressed.
@istvanfabian881
@istvanfabian881 10 ай бұрын
tbf if "variety" is the only reason you play a game maybe its not that great
@Legionthecomrade
@Legionthecomrade 10 ай бұрын
It's always great seeing people new to Quandale here.
@heqitao
@heqitao 10 ай бұрын
Quin knows full well that PoE is a far better game. Far better. Just wait for his content at Exilecon. He won't sell his Blizzard cash cow down the river, but he will gush over the greatness that GGG brings compared to this D4 rubbish. Hell the lad spends far more time interacting with the PoE boys than he does with D4 fly by nighters.
@1TotalJabroni
@1TotalJabroni 10 ай бұрын
I don't think he's shilling man, he isn't afraid to shit on D4 itemization or these new patch notes. He just appears to want to live in this disassociative alternate reality where D4 isn't dogshit. He's arguing on behalf of D4 as if it's what he wants it to be some day. But 100% part of it is kind of an act, like he's trying to intentionally trigger PoE guys and once he plays PoE again he'll do the same for D4 guys, if there's any left in two weeks.
@johnlewis7715
@johnlewis7715 10 ай бұрын
I honestly hate the map overlay and the demonstration by Kripp for POE 2 didn’t look good to me. This is coming from someone who played D2 for 20 years with map overlay up the whole time while I’m doing runs. 😅
@pillagius
@pillagius 8 ай бұрын
While D4 was never some sort of "PoE killer" or whatever, it has waaaaay too many bad decisions made, starting with something as simple as the horse summon on 10 sec cooldown and the rest of the fucking game... Literally at every twist and turn there is at least one feature, the way the feature is implemented, or lack of feature that should've been there, that is confusing/uncomfortable at best and not just feels, or appears, IS malicious (like incidents with "accidentally" activating premium season pass) at worst. Take first season story progression for example: I would like to get through the story, but I can't - gotta do those "fun" activities! By the time I'm done with diving into dozen cellars, cleaning 5 toilets and doing other crap to unlock next piece of the story - I already don't give a fuck about it, I actually barely remember what the hell it was about and I'm just skipping dialogs and exposition, whatnot so I can be done with it faster and unlock whatever seasonal features I still have left.
@bjornbrunstorp6839
@bjornbrunstorp6839 10 ай бұрын
Quins brain has had to much copium.
@SYG_Aegis
@SYG_Aegis 10 ай бұрын
Biggest contrarian in the gaming industry, my lord Quin..
@MegaGawdZilla
@MegaGawdZilla 9 ай бұрын
Quin is actually a perfect example of how gaming got to the point that it did. He will sit and complain for hours about a game... that he is currently playing for hours. If you don't enjoy the current iteration and practices of a game or development studio then you have to show some restraint and self respect and stop playing the game. Remnant 2 came out recently and they did the very same thing Blizzard did, they sold you 4 day early access to the game for 10 extra dollars. Guess how we stop games from doing that? Is it A) buy the early access and complain about it on Twitter or B) show restraint and not pay extra money for a game that the developers are withholding from you in hopes they can squeeze a few extra bucks out of the player base. The Remnant 2 devs are also removing some content from the game so they can sell it to you over the next year, and they do it because people will gladly pay for it. Stop paying these companies to fuck you over and they will stop doing it. You can't just hope all devs will be like Baldur's Gate and do the moral thing out of the goodness of their heart. Then you'll end up with 100 little Blizzards running around selling us full priced games with additional paid microtransactions, battle passes, future DLC patches, and 3 day early access to their games. It WILL get worse. Devs are watching Blizzard and copying what they do.
@flisflip9738
@flisflip9738 10 ай бұрын
TRUEEEEE
@rustyking23able
@rustyking23able 10 ай бұрын
Still waiting for last epoch to pop off
@xhali2953
@xhali2953 10 ай бұрын
see you in 20 years
@rustyking23able
@rustyking23able 10 ай бұрын
@@xhali2953 true
@daanstrik4293
@daanstrik4293 2 ай бұрын
@@xhali2953It hasn’t been 20 years but it was a pretty grand game
@wtfwasthat16
@wtfwasthat16 10 ай бұрын
I think Quinn just wants to be great at a game
@Seydaschu
@Seydaschu 5 ай бұрын
Oh lawdy, that dislike ratio! ... ... Oops, I keep forgetting you need an add-on to see that.
@imbafury1070
@imbafury1070 10 ай бұрын
id prefer the map overlay
@7opher619
@7opher619 8 ай бұрын
How is no one talking about the actual problem with Diablo 4. The entire game design is predatory. Everything was designed to be tedious and take FOREVER just so you spend more time in the game just looking at your character and the ugly mounts. Therefore making it more likely for people to buy cosmetics. Here is a list of 'features' I can recall from launch that clearly were just intended to make it take longer: -The campaign was absolutely filled with whole zones where all you did was run to the next door with nothing to even kill on the way -Needing a mount to travel quickly and not getting one until right around the point where most people become annoyed with all the slow and tedious running -Having extremely spongey bosses while leveling, no matter how min maxed your leveling was -Town layouts that are very obviously designed to just be annoying if you want to do any kind of crafting -Extremely limited inventory space so you have to spend more time considering every item's possibilities before deciding what to keep and what to vendor -Timed world events that force players to need to be logged in at the right time -Having to run to dungeons over, and over, and over, and over... -Absolutely abysmal drop chances on build defining/enabling unique items and no way to even attempt to farm them (just gotta pray to RNGeezus) I am sure there are more. That is all I can remember off the top of my head right now. Anyway, I for one will never play Diablo 4 again, or another Blizzard game for that matter. As far as I am concerned Blizzard lost their heart and soul when they merged with Activision.
@BuzzaB77
@BuzzaB77 10 ай бұрын
Remember Bobby Kotek still heads this company. You don't think that man wants his 23million (yearly) ? Also Remember Immortal made 523 million and this game needs to justify it's existence to those same shareholders. they will sell stash tabs, and more.
@Rerpesentz
@Rerpesentz 10 ай бұрын
Are they acting like you can't get disconnected in Path of Exile Hardcore??? Man i missed that memo guys
@williamschubert4819
@williamschubert4819 10 ай бұрын
I think the point is if you do disconnect you are removed almost immediately so you don't die.
@glitchy8429
@glitchy8429 10 ай бұрын
People are so confused about mid game because it changed from eternal to season 1 with the nerfs. Eternal midgame started around 70, that’s when you started to plateau and it became a grind. Once they nerfed crit, midgame moved down to 45 because you end up in this ridiculous limbo between grinding tier 1 with slow progression or dying a whole bunch in tier 3 because there’s only one lvl 53 dungeon, but once your past that your practically at endgame grind because you start gettin sacred and ancestral… on top of that, you start to realize that the campaign to midgame 70 grind was literally the most fun part about the game. They should’ve just kept the same model as eternal and added more stuff to endgame. Instead, they took away everything fun, and added nothing to endgame accept these malignant sockets no one cares about. Give us back the 70 midgame and something like Kanai’s cube NOW, instead of 10 seasons later….
@hpmc7426
@hpmc7426 10 ай бұрын
By now you can pretty sure there will be no D5 in the future.
@magellan12300
@magellan12300 10 ай бұрын
IT IS not ok .THE game is in BETA . Wake up guys
@Codoxnz
@Codoxnz 10 ай бұрын
Login, dudes.
@steamavila1818
@steamavila1818 10 ай бұрын
I remember when the price of D4 was announced, I was like I'm not gonna pay $80 for a game WTF I'll just wait, some people were giving me shit for saying that, apparently I'm such a cheap bastard that I insulted a lot of people with that comment, now here I am eating popcorn reading some comments about some blizzard simps crying about the content of the game! do you know what blizzard needs to help them make the game better? more money for sure! lol
@user-bn5od3df5j
@user-bn5od3df5j 10 ай бұрын
is it just me or did anyone else got the feeling that the droprate of cinders is lower than before ? i needed 37 !! minutes on my 100 Barb to get the fucking 250 cinders , i played 8 events and killed every mobpack with 10 mobs or more on the way... man blizzard sucks
@liamsmythe209
@liamsmythe209 10 ай бұрын
wow
@BananaJDM
@BananaJDM 8 ай бұрын
Only way to make D4 fun is to remove cooldowns and add mana pots like D1/D2 And fix items add some cool sht
@JoeCroninSHOW
@JoeCroninSHOW 10 ай бұрын
PLAY D3 Season 28 if POE is too much people its great
@vividly94
@vividly94 10 ай бұрын
oh god dont talk about D3 its shit
@ServeMySoul777
@ServeMySoul777 10 ай бұрын
Had this guy ever heard of alt f4 in PoE? It’s basically the same thing except it takes a quick push of alt f4 to save your character from death. You could just not use the potion or hit alt f4 if you want an authentic hardcore experience. With that being said, currently PoE is the better game, but I think D4 could be better with time and the correct implementation of good systems and mechanics. Also, I hate the stats of D4. Wtf would they add stats like crowd control damage? Just give us easy to read and understand stats like extra fire damage. They should also make more homogenous legendaries and items. I get that having class specific ones are cool but at least half of not more of the items are locked to a class. Same for skins, maybe I want my Druid to look like a necromancer. There are lots to like about both games and I enjoy both. Can’t wait for PoE 2 to release. Until then I’ll see you in Sanctuary.
@daanstrik4293
@daanstrik4293 2 ай бұрын
While POE’s alt+F4 deserves a lot of criticism, its still a something that requires threat assement and reaction speed from the player. Barely escaping death with a quick Alt+F4 can be exciting
@jozefbania
@jozefbania 8 ай бұрын
The most fun is gambling ;) Hunter gatherer things are the second.
@Sifu369
@Sifu369 9 ай бұрын
Well I'm pretty disappointed in the coding for loot management in general. People are getting sick of gaming companies disrespecting someone's hard earned money! Gives us a fucking finished product!
@cckmanofsteel2393
@cckmanofsteel2393 10 ай бұрын
Quin happy every build is zdps
@kevinmcgraw7543
@kevinmcgraw7543 10 ай бұрын
Bit of a joke to blow off criticism by saying “oh the honeymoon phase is just over, people are just in their feels”. Idk man, its been the same criticism since release week. Same amount of negativity. There was never a honeymoon phase, much as I enjoy the positivity on this channel.
@Beardymanlol
@Beardymanlol 10 ай бұрын
"wunchyoureinworlteer4 thatsit"
@therealharshlycritical
@therealharshlycritical 10 ай бұрын
I will.
@tvlyt444
@tvlyt444 10 ай бұрын
I love how Zizaran was hating on the druid after having the boys boosting him to lvl 60 and then he played druid ungeared at lvl60 . He started crying about 'rogue felt great', 'druid was unplayable' . Great opinion Ziz, let me toss that opinion right in the bin now stfu plz. Imagine being a dev working for years on a game and then having to deal with that bullshit man. Community feedback is .... a joke sometimes.
@Willay_Strata
@Willay_Strata 9 ай бұрын
ActivisionBlizzard always pushes out stuff before it's ready.. phase 2 of wow classic needed to wait an extra month to come out and they pushed it out before the majority of the player base was ready..
@flipnshifty
@flipnshifty 10 ай бұрын
You think its completely fine to cost 70 dollars, but at the same time its not even an RPG because of the scaling, and everything else sucks too? Sounds about right.
@mykeCA82
@mykeCA82 10 ай бұрын
It is an RPG. aRPG to boot.
@yourvenparianen5390
@yourvenparianen5390 8 ай бұрын
Upper echelon makes an accurate precise and factual take on the deplorable state of d4 Quinn : huurrr durrr its not that bad....but kinda bad but hes an andy though 😂😂🤡
@Warsome
@Warsome 10 ай бұрын
before d4 came it out it was already dead lol
@jackwood1142
@jackwood1142 10 ай бұрын
hes farming hate for views he defo agress with everything
@flipnshifty
@flipnshifty 10 ай бұрын
i hope so
@DrathanKhan
@DrathanKhan 10 ай бұрын
Lol I like Quin for his bad takes. It's fun to listen.
@flipnshifty
@flipnshifty 10 ай бұрын
Glad he entertains one person with his stream
@MarkoLomovic
@MarkoLomovic 10 ай бұрын
Same, like when he pulled havoc as example of boosting. I cried laughing
@panda93247
@panda93247 10 ай бұрын
You can't keep giving Blizzard the "It is what it is" excuse. Paying $70 for an unpolished game is inherently immoral. Stop perpetuating this idea that it's okay to charge extortionate amounts of money for an unfinished product.
@the1tigglet
@the1tigglet 9 ай бұрын
Oh and I downloaded PoE and I absolutely will be buying and playing PoE2 playing the Druid and sharing everyday what it's like to do the Druid class properly to Blizzards Xitter and the Xitter accounts of the leads they put in charge of D4 who failed the community. Every. Single. Day.
@NikkiTheMadGod
@NikkiTheMadGod 8 ай бұрын
I have wonderful news for you. PoE2 won't need to be bought. It's free.
@XtraCrispy
@XtraCrispy 10 ай бұрын
100% agree, if you play POE D4 just trash
@jakemartin5553
@jakemartin5553 10 ай бұрын
Idt anybody is arguing that D4 is objectively better than PoE.. but I can almost guarantee 90% of the people who are "done with diablo" will be logging in tomorrow.
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