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PLO8 & BigO with GREG VAIL
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4 жыл бұрынPoker coach and split-pot specialist Greg Vail joins me for a conversation about Omaha Hi/Lo. He shares great insights for Hold'em players starting to learn PLO8 & BigO.
Find out more about Greg or look for his books on doublesuited.net/ and on Twitter at @GregVail85. Also, big thanks to Jarrad for joining the conversation and bringing some questions about starting fresh in PLO games! Find him on IG + Twitter at @JarradReynolds.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:43 Greg's story
06:53 The mathematical advantage in split-pot games
07:50 The #1 problem of NLH players
13:18 Why Holdem players should learn O8
18:08 What keeps more people from learning O8
27:06 Your NLH game will improve
31:00 Calculating your win rate
38:00 About Greg's books, SCOOP!
42:45 How to start playing
50:44 Jarrad joins us for some 1-on-1 coaching and advice
55:18 What NLH skills translate to PLO?
59:59 What Greg's most successful students do
1:03:15 Common mistakes and misplays that NLH players make in O8
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@JustChristyB 4 жыл бұрын
TIMESTAMPS in the description box above! Big thanks to Greg and Jarrad! I've started reading Greg's books and will share my experience afterwards. Check him out for yourself at doublesuited.net
@chezchezchezchez 2 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely fantastic. I’m a professional no limit player in Vegas (14 years). I’ve only dabbled in split pot games (The Orleans). This guy is inspiring me to get into it more!
@Daniel3NT 7 ай бұрын
BTW, that over the shoulder thing is illegal unless its postmortem
@wuppad 2 жыл бұрын
great video - thanks a lot!
@danschneier513 3 жыл бұрын
Really excellent interview here.
@KaiMak714 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for finally putting this up. Been waiting for this. I like how Greg laughs/snickers at his "edge". To know you are really, really great something -- that has to be an unbelievable feeling.
@JustChristyB 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@kellybailey1377 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video. I am learning and playing micro stakes PLO8 tournaments and sit-n-go's on ACR. Greg's first book was an eyeopener. I am on my second read through before moving on to the second book. I wish there was more PLO8 content out there.
@SGProductions87 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if Greg has changed his tune now on vaccination-to-play.
@vmcc222 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Christy this is a fantastic video. I am so glad I just discovered your channel! It was a bit of a surprise, too, to realize I know you and your husband. I remember playing Omaha with you at the oaks. I moved down here to the desert after my divorce last year. I play a fair amount of Big O, there is a 5-10 pot limit game at my local casino, Agua Caliente, but I prefer the 2-3 pot limit game at Oceans Eleven in Oceanside. Keep up the great work with the channel! Regards, Vince
@seqranger1 3 жыл бұрын
been getting into big o thanks to a private game.. realised quickly that the variance practically disappeared. Now i dont even want to play games that arent split pot. Shout out to my infantry brother greg! hope to meet you one day and buy you a beer. thanks for all the information its very kind of you.
@chadfriesen1858 Ай бұрын
Variance disappeared? The more cards you add the more you increase the variance.
@sfjeanfrancois 4 жыл бұрын
That was a very interesting conversation. Didn’t even feel like 90+ minutes. 👍🏻
@JustChristyB 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! We talked for over 2.5 hours and it was really hard to pare it down 😀
@sfjeanfrancois 4 жыл бұрын
Just Christy B probably the best insights on HiLo game I have heard.
@j.yahnke 3 жыл бұрын
Great interview. Big O is the game of the future. 💯. It's been great in Oregon for a long time.
@samuelesilverman 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the poker talk. Not so much the Covid great mongering which didn't age well. The sneeze guards were a nightmare!
@o8grinder 4 жыл бұрын
been waiting for this to come out! great job Christy! think everyone's missing the Christy B mix game tourneys!
@JustChristyB 4 жыл бұрын
Woohoo! Sorry it took so long. The days melt together but O8 is still the sh*t!
@revnecro1273 4 жыл бұрын
we don't want holdem players to learn the game...we want holdem players to continue to approach the game as they would holdem
@26bisket 4 жыл бұрын
What’s up rev
@JustChristyB 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! Yes, well some people will want to play "just for fun" and never try to develop their skill to a level of mastery. But I hear ya, Greg and other coaches will ultimately make the game more competitive. The benefit is that new people will continuously be introduced to the game.
@revnecro1273 4 жыл бұрын
@@26bisket who is this?
@EricSmyth4Christ Жыл бұрын
Make the ace “high only” and make the low 9 or better and I think it will have even more skill
@Daniel3NT 7 ай бұрын
Split pot PLO has one huge problem = bad players lose money too fast, the game is just too technical. My advice is to embrace the madness and play limit split pot games. Yes you will witness the biggest donkeys having occasional monster session but thats a feature not a bug, that will ensure that they are coming back.
@haypapa 3 жыл бұрын
does he have a channel?
@efs7308 10 ай бұрын
I loved the video until the guy in the cap came in and made it all about him.. before him I actually learned some stuff
@MadMann771 4 жыл бұрын
a few days ago i thought i lost youre card protector aka gem. But if found in a pocket, brought me luck so many times. Hope youre doing fine?! :-).
@JustChristyB 4 жыл бұрын
Aww glad you still have it! How are you? I am fortunate to be fine. Andre and I are getting ready to start a new KZfaq channel--we purchased an old RV and are going to renovate it! So, that's keeping us hopeful during covid.
@MadMann771 4 жыл бұрын
@@JustChristyB Sounds great with the RV. That´s kind of a challenge. :-) For myself i´m feeling fine and in germany we have really tough hygiene rules regarding the covid thing so it´s just a matter of time till its over we hope. And still playing poker hoping to get the big win. On Saturday i will fly to Portugal (Algarve) for holyday. Great food & swimming etc. :-)
@welovelibraries4556 3 жыл бұрын
Do a new video
@garygwinn4256 3 жыл бұрын
Split Pot poker is CHESS. When played with a REAL DECK, a win rate can be achieved in Split Pot that cannot be achieved in Hold-Em, because Split Pot is a concept that alot of Hold-em players Cannot Grasp. I am coming off of 24 wins in PLO-HL out of 25 sessions
@joeypham9237 2 жыл бұрын
Why is he kept on talking about holdem players playing big o
@brizzlex1919 2 жыл бұрын
Because no one really starts playing poker playing Big O. Everyone is coming from holdem.
@haypapa 3 жыл бұрын
sucks he mostly talks about live... also find it weird saying playing short is not good.. with fullring turns into bingo
@nickbowenfishing2885 3 жыл бұрын
Holdem is much more complicated then BIG 0
@brizzlex1919 2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤡
@EricSmyth4Christ Жыл бұрын
Lol
@andrewnicholas9079 4 жыл бұрын
1st!!!!
@JustChristyB 4 жыл бұрын
Well done, you even beat ME!
@andrewnicholas9079 4 жыл бұрын
@@JustChristyB I was actually thinking about you yesterday, wondering where's her next video at.. then boom here it is today. Thanks!
@JustChristyB 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewnicholas9079 Nice! You must have heard me through the ether "dammit, upload faster, dammit!" all day yesterday :)
@garygwinn5818 2 жыл бұрын
I know more about Big O than this guy. Ive played 28 sessions of Big O and only booked 1 loss, all my wins are a buy-in or better.
@EricSmyth4Christ Жыл бұрын
He said he wins %90 and 88bbs against weaker players
@garygwinn5818 Жыл бұрын
@@EricSmyth4Christ You mean 8.8 BBs per hour, right? Im not saying the guy isnt a good player. Im saying: Im better at the game and my Results prove it
@EricSmyth4Christ Жыл бұрын
@@garygwinn5818 he says in the video multiple times he makes 40-80 bb / 100 and anything less than that isn’t that impressive Big O is a mop
@EricSmyth4Christ Жыл бұрын
@@garygwinn5818 he also says the same thing in the video if you watch the whole thing 27/28
@EricSmyth4Christ Жыл бұрын
@@garygwinn5818 On another video he said he ended 2 guys careers playing heads up Big O online in a match format for high stakes They quit playing poker for life I could see heads up deep stacks being brutal
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