Thanks man! I just make these for fun, so I would probably have a lot more subs if I was better about regular uploads.

Thank you!

If you have a first gen, check out Archive Garage. They make drop in leaf pack/shock relocation setups that are super cool. Best first gen suspension out there short of cutting everything off.

@@JustDiesels I have a 2nd gen and a 1970 W200

So you got these rear springs and had to put bags on it to tow your 5th wheel? I ask cause I'm looking at this kit but wondered how they'd do with 5th wheel weight on it. Thanks!!

@@jamesvaldez4093 Yeah mine is 03 6 sp sport hd with short bed crew. Didn't have stabilizer bar on rear. Springs were super squisy up top and swayed . Air bags fixed it.

​@@swampratt36Awesome. Thank you!!!

Yeah those work! On 2nd gens the whole cradle/bag situation gets a little funky, since all bag kits for these trucks are made to work around the stock blocks that get removed. With some clever off menu tricks you can make it work, but I find the Timbren spacers to be a lot cheaper and easier. My good buddy had the Firestone bag/ daystar cradle setup on his 2nd gen with these leaf packs and it works killer.

OK great! I have Airlift bags on my truck but have been wondering if there was a way to improve ride quality when loaded or towing then I saw this video!

Yeah it’s a HUGE improvement! And these are factory and came with the truck. That’s the easiest way to score some!

Thanks man! This truck is a 24v 99 2nd gen.

Since the add a pack maintains the base springs, there's no increase in travel and no major improvement in small bump compliance. You do improve ride on big dips or hits, but it's nowhere near what's possible with the full pack. I personally think the add a pack isn't worth it compared to just keeping the stock rear springs.

@JustDiesels I appreciate that, I tow over 10k pretty often and I already have bags and cradles but my enclosed trailer can be pretty tongue heavy and I would rather not overload the air springs when I fully load up everything. Although I did find that 37s do a pretty good job at bump compliance with the 2.5 kings as it sits

Their leaf pack fits both 2500/3500 SRW and DRW trucks.

Lol

To be perfectly honest your issues are all install related. The brake proportioning valve linkage must be removed, as well as the rear sway bar. Additionally, it sounds like you may not be running the proper rear shocks either, so all of those things are working together to hurt your ride and limit articulation. Essentially you’ve taken an A1 Wagyu steak, cooked it in the microwave, and then complained that it sucked. Proper installation and parts mix is key to actually making a product like this work. I don’t mean to be accusatory, but that’s the cold hard facts of the situation.

@@JustDiesels So obviously you are correct on the install part. I did have the sway bar disconnected but I did not for the valve because the instructions didn’t say anything because they were not for my truck. They were a general use instructions which showed 3rd gens. But regardless nobody on the website or who I’ve talked to said you need to remove parts for it to work. I don’t want to remove my valve and I don’t want to remove my sway bar for hauling purposes. I don’t have the shocks you have but I do have the performance package so it does have res- shocks from CJC so they are for the springs, and I don’t believe again the sway bar makes it ride rough. If I was rock crawling or something I’d remove it but I just want a comfortable ride down the road and those springs did absolutely nothing, and I could remove the sway bar and I’d say it would ride just as bad but sway a lot more. So again I do have all the parts that “work as a team” front and rear mind you, front sway bar and all but the rear still rides like a wagon. However I do appreciate the response, it is nice to get some knowledge from someone that knows a little more than I do with carli

What tire pressure are you running and what’s your wheel tire combo? These leaf packs are way softer than stock, so the only way they can ride like stock is if something else is holding you back. The sway bar doesn’t help but it might be a tire pressure issue too.

Why run a sway bar on the rear?

Interesting! Maybe I'll save my money and not bother with these. I have a heavy flatbed with boxes on mine and sometimes have a slide-in camper as well. I have a feeling these are tuned for driving around unloaded.

Thanks man!

You might be thinking of a different truck, since I got this one in Havasu. Az is the land of clean grandpa rigs though!