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Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy, Haden and TJ Houshmandzadeh react to Justin Herbert's contact extension with the Los Angeles Chargers. The crew discuss what would a successful season be for Justin Herbert?
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@SpeakOnFS1
@SpeakOnFS1 11 ай бұрын
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@davidtorresalcazar1633
@davidtorresalcazar1633 11 ай бұрын
Respectably Justin herbert has beat the chiefs back to back in arrowhead in week 17 2020 and in 2021 week 2
@mexico1395
@mexico1395 11 ай бұрын
@@davidtorresalcazar1633y. Y guy guy y iiuih I I I
@tamdango
@tamdango 11 ай бұрын
When Jalen Hurts got paid, everyone said he needed to win a Super Bowl to justify his paycheck but now that Justin Herbert got paid, he only has to win a playoff game to be deemed successful? Make that make sense.
@jeanfourcade
@jeanfourcade 11 ай бұрын
It's pure media nonsense and favoritism. Now, 2 things: 1 - for some reason Jalen's meteoric rise seems to displease many talking heads. The guy is not "liked". He's the phenom of the 2022 season (along with the otherworldly Mahomes and Miracle Purdy), but his name is barely been mentioned ever. 2 - Jalen does not need, nor does Herbert for that matter, to "justify" anything. Their employers (the owners) showed us all how worthy those QBs are to them. Owners don't "bet" on future results on the field. They invest in a QB knowing already what their global ROI will be on all fronts (TV and content rights, commercial exposure, jerseys, hot dogs...). It's all accounted for already. Peace, Tam.
@drewmole3713
@drewmole3713 11 ай бұрын
It’s only 1 difference.
@dogonit7412
@dogonit7412 11 ай бұрын
If you want to define a successful season as ONLY winning the Super Bowl ... you are setting yourself up for failure. 31 teams don't win a Super Bowl in any given year. All failures? Really?
@mccannesanford
@mccannesanford 11 ай бұрын
I’m a diehard Herbert fan, I don’t think jalen needs to win a Super Bowl same with Lamar, they just need to stay healthy and produce in the realm of their best seasons. Same with Herbert.
@peteywheatstraw7670
@peteywheatstraw7670 11 ай бұрын
@@mccannesanford Sad part is that Lamar got paid big money, even in the face of his declining stats. Staying healthy is starting to become an issue for him also.
@tharealg.2728
@tharealg.2728 11 ай бұрын
Look how easy they gave him his money...no controversies and he has achieved far less than Lamar
@lord-marroking1315
@lord-marroking1315 11 ай бұрын
Different organization, it has nothing to do with Lamar Jackson. Let me guess it’s because LJ is black? 🤦‍♂️
@RetroNBA42
@RetroNBA42 11 ай бұрын
Lol you don’t pay people for accomplishments you pay them for how good they will be moving future. And Herbert will undoubtedly be better than LamaRB.
@madman1840
@madman1840 11 ай бұрын
​@@RetroNBA42yeah said that about goff and wentz too and look where they are now.
@saynomoremedia7463
@saynomoremedia7463 11 ай бұрын
@@RetroNBA42mvp? Playoff win?
@carlgilmore-murry5789
@carlgilmore-murry5789 11 ай бұрын
@@madman1840 Goff ain’t no scrub.. he did lead a team to the SB
@joshuamullins3882
@joshuamullins3882 11 ай бұрын
That jaguars comeback on the defense though.
@caper087
@caper087 11 ай бұрын
He was up by 27… his defense let him down.. offense did there job
@raptoryoppey7277
@raptoryoppey7277 11 ай бұрын
To me it’s on everybody u can’t just blame that on one thing or person to have a meltdown like that it’s on everybody
@Christian-xr7hc
@Christian-xr7hc 11 ай бұрын
@@caper087really? what exactly did that offense do in the second half? absolutely nothing. don’t just blame the defense. Herbert is to blame also
@bt3913
@bt3913 11 ай бұрын
@@Christian-xr7hc how exactly? The defense forces 4 turnovers in the first half, which Herbert turned into a 27-0 lead. Then the defense completely collapsed in the 2nd half and gave up 31 points, along with the Chargers kicker missing the dagger FG… if you watched the game, you’d know Herbert wasn’t the problem
@Christian-xr7hc
@Christian-xr7hc 11 ай бұрын
@@bt3913 oh, he wasn’t? i watched Herbert fail to score any points in the second half. but sure, it’s solely on the defense. Mahomes has been exceeding expectations with middle of the pack defenses for years and continues to get it done one way or another. there’s levels and Herbert isn’t there… YET. i think he’s a good/great QB but you have to get something done to be considered top 5 in the league
@brianwilson3627
@brianwilson3627 11 ай бұрын
He's like phillip rivers all over again.
@bluebluntz
@bluebluntz 11 ай бұрын
Shady loves to throw shade on Prescott in any QB conversation. This segment was about Herbert, not Dak. That’s is textbook haterism.
@chrisalvarado3601
@chrisalvarado3601 11 ай бұрын
Seriously!!
@marcusaurelius5149
@marcusaurelius5149 11 ай бұрын
He should. Dak notoriously throws interceptions and loses games.
@freddygaulman5493
@freddygaulman5493 11 ай бұрын
@@marcusaurelius5149so if he's so bad then why do they put bigger expectations on him than the top guys. Funny how Allen, lamar, Herbert etc can lose season after season and it's no big deal but Dak loses and they want to spend an entire hour talking about him
@marcusaurelius5149
@marcusaurelius5149 11 ай бұрын
@@freddygaulman5493 If you make more excuses maybe Dak will date you.
@aem870
@aem870 Ай бұрын
They call him Shady for a reason.
@So_Oneal
@So_Oneal 11 ай бұрын
Daniel Jones and Justin Herbert the golden boys who both got their money with no resistance at all despite the lack of success....
@MBDR99
@MBDR99 11 ай бұрын
success is a team thing if you think the chargers arent winning games because of herbert then youre either a hater or dont know that football is a TEAM sport
@Nonono27489
@Nonono27489 11 ай бұрын
They white
@josephheenan1695
@josephheenan1695 11 ай бұрын
@@Nonono27489has nothing to do with it
@josephheenan1695
@josephheenan1695 11 ай бұрын
FACT: NO qb has put up more points in their first 3 season than Justin Herbert. Another fact is that no defense has allowed more points in a 3 year span EVER than the chargers defense over the last 3 years, but yeah, say you don’t know ball
@horrorchannel4561
@horrorchannel4561 11 ай бұрын
Clearly you’ve never watched a chargers game. You can argue Herbert is the most skilled quarterback in the league. It all comes down to the whole team not just one person.
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 11 ай бұрын
Joy: Deshaun Watson has to win a Super Bowl Also Joy: Justin Herbert has to win a playoff game
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 11 ай бұрын
Has Watson won a playoff game? Are we not allowed to have individual expectations?
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 11 ай бұрын
"Waah, Denver is expected to return to the Finals, but all Charlotte has to do is make the Play-In tournament" No, you're right - fire CHA coach if they don't make the Finals...
@ocampbell1954
@ocampbell1954 11 ай бұрын
​​@@darrengordon-hillThis is the first time Watson actually has a real team. Mf had Hopkins and that's it. Chargers have elite receivers and a run game.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 11 ай бұрын
@@ocampbell1954 ...and (I'm hearing) injuries and a lack of depth...
@QuanBerry
@QuanBerry 11 ай бұрын
These people on are not consistent and bias smh
@niggaiaintgay8948
@niggaiaintgay8948 11 ай бұрын
The injury to michael davis changed that game man
@SD2o9
@SD2o9 11 ай бұрын
And trey
@Shiba_Inu_Des
@Shiba_Inu_Des 11 ай бұрын
No Acho in this video! Great, I'll watch/like.
@iali00
@iali00 11 ай бұрын
Shady earned his name. Always throwing shade at Dak. Must’ve taken his girl or something.
@soma27
@soma27 11 ай бұрын
“Jalen hurts has been to a Super Bowl”. Yeah, imagine if Herbert only had to score more than 7 points every game to get to the Super Bowl. Pretty sure he could do that no problem. Talking about what he did in the second half and not talking about how he drove 60 yards for an easy fg to change the game, and his kicker misses it. He has lead his team to more points in a qbs first 3 seasons ever. His defense has given up more points than any team in a qbs first 3 seasons ever.
@daveczarnik6017
@daveczarnik6017 11 ай бұрын
Say it again. That chargers defense was literally awful last year
@Shiba_Inu_Des
@Shiba_Inu_Des 11 ай бұрын
yep....@@daveczarnik6017
@bernardocoelho6069
@bernardocoelho6069 11 ай бұрын
People are jumping on the Jelen Hurts band wagon too soon ... lets wait just one more season and then say he is what we think he might be
@CHEFFszn
@CHEFFszn 11 ай бұрын
@@bernardocoelho6069there is no bandwagon jalens a dog he has mamba mentality and I trust him fully
@Ususbensksuan
@Ususbensksuan 11 ай бұрын
Eagles game against the lions, packers, and chiefs refute the entire first half of your argument lmaooooooooo
@yaboi9191
@yaboi9191 11 ай бұрын
Definitely crazy how they do the running quarterbacks or quarterbacks with the ability to run because he definitely got his money and a lot of it way easier
@RUTHLESSambition5
@RUTHLESSambition5 11 ай бұрын
It's wyte owners dealing with black men. What do you expect from those people. Jerry Jones is a Kla nsman
@chetjablonski1993
@chetjablonski1993 11 ай бұрын
Mahomes & Allen got theirs the easiest and they can both do it all. Perspective, timing and the market; it’s really convoluted
@darrenkaminski2483
@darrenkaminski2483 11 ай бұрын
Less risk of injury. He missed one play because of injuries.
@gbmbg114
@gbmbg114 11 ай бұрын
Hey, I’m no Herbert fan (overhyped, treated with kid gloves, needs to win more), but Kyler got paid way early, Hurts was an easy contract to reset the market.. Josh got the check pretty easily.. and to be fair, Lamar didn’t have an agent to shield him from the PR push against him from an already stingy organization.. and then still reset the market.. to me, Herbert should have a higher bar set for him than “win a playoff game”.. but the money makes total sense
@joseponce6332
@joseponce6332 11 ай бұрын
everybody always says he had a down year last year & how he’s not top 5 but no one ever mentions why he had a down year 😂😂
@joeyzze
@joeyzze 11 ай бұрын
Playing with broken ribs and a torn labrum will do that lol
@princecheck11
@princecheck11 11 ай бұрын
doesnt matter why bc nobody mentions for lamar or these other qbs
@drb5003
@drb5003 11 ай бұрын
Like people said Lamar got his contract from Hurts, Herbert got his contract from LAMAR... 😂😂😂😂😂
@TheInterestedObserver
@TheInterestedObserver 11 ай бұрын
If he went to Sn Francisco he could have won it all multiple times
@northwestkidmarc
@northwestkidmarc 11 ай бұрын
Bro i been saying this since herbert was drafted ik they needed a qb like him after what they had years ago with rivers fr ik herbert would be a great fit for la fr everyone kept saying they would draft tua but ik herbert is a better fit and it definitely paid off 👏👏👏👏😁😁💯😁💯💯💯🙏👋 proud of la and herbert herbert is definitely special for la glad they finally have their franchise guy
@aidankotsch1568
@aidankotsch1568 11 ай бұрын
I think people forget that in that playoff game herbert DID drive his team down the field and set up a chip shot field goal of like 38 yards that the kicker missed, giving the jags the final possession down only 2 instead of 5. If that kick goes in we apparently all have a very different opinion of herbert, which makes no sense
@jeanfourcade
@jeanfourcade 11 ай бұрын
Excellent point Aidan. But remember: football and football talk shows are all about mass entertaiment and simplistic narratives, certainly not enlightenment ! Peace, man.
@suv3534
@suv3534 11 ай бұрын
We can literally do this for multiple QBs in the past why should Herbert only get a pass? The reality is when his defense stopped getting him short fields he couldn’t produce more than 3 points
@dallassavage7128
@dallassavage7128 11 ай бұрын
​@@suv3534thats because they didn't make adjustments. Herbert gets hate because defense is a problem. My issue with Herbert is he took a big deal instead of a slightly better one to get help on that side of the ball.
@82TheGrouch
@82TheGrouch 11 ай бұрын
Or that the starting RB had 31 yards for THE GAME with a 4 TD lead.
@aidankotsch1568
@aidankotsch1568 11 ай бұрын
@@suv3534 Ok but if trevor lawrence's kicker would have missed the field goal with no time left would that have made his second half performance any less extraordinary? I believe it isn't a QBs fault when they put their team in a position to win and the rest of the team can't execute. Herbert played a solid clean playoff game with no run support or O line blocking. He wasn't extraordinary in the second half cause the OC decided dink and dunk offense and 2.6 YPC was good enough to finish the game.
@Wrigside_Playa
@Wrigside_Playa 11 ай бұрын
TJ one of my favorite wide outs back in the day
@troysmith6190
@troysmith6190 11 ай бұрын
I find it really suspect how lamar, and dak had to fight to get paid and how they got criticized by media for being greedy even know both of them had done a solid job by the time their contacts were up but Herbert "deserves" his new contract even know he hasn't done half of what they had already have done 🤔
@boston18sfs
@boston18sfs 11 ай бұрын
Or it's just a better run organization that planned ahead
@realmtreader6566
@realmtreader6566 11 ай бұрын
different organizations. Should be crying about how Baltimore handled it
@KTF0
@KTF0 11 ай бұрын
If they waited later it would cost them more money.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 11 ай бұрын
​@@boston18sfsNah, "racism"
@mfranklin5732
@mfranklin5732 11 ай бұрын
As a black Lions' fan, it's not racism. Hurts got his money quickly. I get being hesitant on Dak, I like him but he's super limited as a qb. I hate how they did LJ and I don't think it was because he's black. I think how the media trashes his throwing ability when he's won far more than Dak, Herbert, Allen, Cousins, etc. With LESS talent around him is kind of discriminatory. Like look at the Pressure that the media puts on him him versus Allen and Herbert. They talk about injuries to the chargers like LJ didn't go a whole year with 3rd string players when hard the team had acl and Achilles injuries.
@madman1840
@madman1840 11 ай бұрын
Dak got critized for getting paid 160 million with alot more post season success than herbert. Time to critize other players for doing less while getting paid more.
@iMaybeRight
@iMaybeRight 11 ай бұрын
complexion for the protection
@gbmbg114
@gbmbg114 11 ай бұрын
Just to keep it fair, everyone criticized the cowboys for NOT paying Dak.. he had a gruesome injury and still got paid.. he got criticized for not living up to the contract..
@madman1840
@madman1840 11 ай бұрын
​​@@gbmbg114he had 2 12 wins seasons and won a playoff game......herbert got 260 million(100 million more than dak) and got priase for losing a playoff game than dak did for winning one.
@madman1840
@madman1840 11 ай бұрын
​@@gbmbg114dak isn't a top 5 QB but he is a good QB that gets more criticism than guys who have never done anything.
@realmtreader6566
@realmtreader6566 11 ай бұрын
STAY MAD
@xxngel5979
@xxngel5979 11 ай бұрын
When yall gonna realize that it’s not just the Quarterbacks that play the game but the defense too chargers have had terrible defenses over the pass 3 years of Herbert’s career so far yet it’s his talent that still gets people to keep the chargers relevant. Kudos to Herbert, well deserved !
@fr3akzilla769
@fr3akzilla769 11 ай бұрын
Chargers have had top3 defensive rosters every year. Terrible coaching and a lot of injuries always takes away from them, but the coaching can be controlled. Still, Herbert ain't winning anything and has no accolades to earns such a deal. Chargers don't care about winning, they want to put up a show and earn those dollars.
@bardwell84
@bardwell84 11 ай бұрын
3 pts in the 2nd half of a 30 pts game and lost... thats not all defensive there lol
@alexmeneses92
@alexmeneses92 11 ай бұрын
@@fr3akzilla769you’re full of it lol
@xxngel5979
@xxngel5979 11 ай бұрын
@@bardwell84 you're comparing one game to an entire 3 year career. you should watch games and understand how infuriating it was to watch Joe Lombardi use busted offense.
@xxngel5979
@xxngel5979 11 ай бұрын
@@fr3akzilla769 you clearly don't know what you're talking about buddy😭
@ptrendres
@ptrendres 11 ай бұрын
It's so crazy that a woman who has Never ever put a set of pads on and got her clocked cleaned is telling people how and what to do in a team game with a cap .
@abdeenabdul7803
@abdeenabdul7803 11 ай бұрын
Have you not seen what herbert did against raiders lol that was crazy
@rgalvan619
@rgalvan619 11 ай бұрын
they dsiacknoledge all of his great work and male it seem he dont have that "performance or moments" 4:18
@raptoryoppey7277
@raptoryoppey7277 11 ай бұрын
@@rgalvan619he has the moments but then his defense gives it up everyone would’ve remembers that 3rd and like 18 this year vs the cheifs in week 11 and made a big 50 yard throw and scored a td defense gets a stop that’s a big moment Mike Williams in week 18 vs the raiders catches that pass in OT that’s another moment week 15 vs cheifs in 2021 he leads a big drive to give them the lead then the defense cant stop the cheifs in regulation and in OT
@raptoryoppey7277
@raptoryoppey7277 11 ай бұрын
@@rgalvan619the difference with hurts and burrow is their defense steps up and makes plays in 2021 vs the raiders in the playoffs they get an int at the goaline to win in Tennessee they get an int to give burrow a short field to lead a game winning drive vs the cheifs they hold the cheifs to 3 points in the 2nd half and in OT got a int to give Burrow once again a short field to lead a game winning drive
@raptoryoppey7277
@raptoryoppey7277 11 ай бұрын
@@rgalvan619lol they don’t realize this is a team game lol if bengals don’t get that int in the wild card in 2021 and lose then nobody is talking about anything if the bengals don’t get that goaline fumble vs the ravens in the playoffs last year and they lose nobody saying anything
@CaseyAZ
@CaseyAZ 11 ай бұрын
This channel hates Herbert bro
@lancehandy7487
@lancehandy7487 11 ай бұрын
That's a pretty low bar win a play off game & I'm shocked at these guys cause Lamar & others don't get that pass from them. 🤔
@leroy1012
@leroy1012 11 ай бұрын
By others U gotta mean black quarterbacks It’s alright to say it
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 11 ай бұрын
LAMAR HAS WON A PLAYOFF GAME!! Why are YOU LOWERING the bar FOR HIM (by suggesting his bar be SOMETHING HE'S ALREADY DONE????) MEANWHILE, Herbert HASN'T won a playoff game... so his bar is appropriate!!! START by winning ONE Playoff game, before we expect you to win 3 (aka a Superbowl)!!! WALK BEFORE YOU CAN RUN!!! CLEARLY the bar ISN'T "just make Playoffs" - gonna assume he's done THAT!!! BARS: *Make the Playoffs *Win a playoff game *Make the Conference Championship *Make the Superbowl *Win the Superbowl . AT LEAST 5 different "levels of expectation"!!!
@mccannesanford
@mccannesanford 11 ай бұрын
Shady said Herbert needs a signature moment like jalen had in the Super Bowl. Well Herbert didn’t have a run game at all, he had more second half yards in the 27-0 comeback loss than hurts had in the second half of the Super Bowl. Chargers need fix the run D and need a rb who can run the clock out
@bobbymcdonald6121
@bobbymcdonald6121 11 ай бұрын
Always making Excuses for Herbert Allen Burrow. Stop the madness.
@mccannesanford
@mccannesanford 11 ай бұрын
@@bobbymcdonald6121 Allen has no excuses, insane team, great defense, incredible winter months home field advantage. He’s just very careless with the ball in the red zone
@mccannesanford
@mccannesanford 11 ай бұрын
@@bobbymcdonald6121 burrow like Tua, throws a 5 yard out and their recievers speed past everyone and the media is like “WHAT A PLAY BY BURROW(TUA)”
@krisnaneruda186
@krisnaneruda186 11 ай бұрын
He’s no different than Lions Matt Stafford to me…
@jeanfourcade
@jeanfourcade 11 ай бұрын
Or Cousins to me
@krisnaneruda186
@krisnaneruda186 11 ай бұрын
@@jeanfourcade production wise but only reason I didn’t say Kirk is because honestly he doesn’t have all of the talent/physical gifts like Herbert and Stafford . I think he’s actually overachieving every year based on his actual talent vs production.
@jeanfourcade
@jeanfourcade 11 ай бұрын
@@krisnaneruda186 You're right, Cousins is probably the QB who achieves the most with the least personal skills ! Thanks for your input, Kris, peace to you.
@lancehandy7487
@lancehandy7487 11 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting for the day the owners take less 🤔
@bradmontgomery4404
@bradmontgomery4404 11 ай бұрын
Shady take was stupid.. bro Herbert hadn’t had no Moments???? 😂😂 silly child
@kingtrel3717
@kingtrel3717 11 ай бұрын
Of course Herbert get a pass 😅
@marcusaurelius5149
@marcusaurelius5149 11 ай бұрын
black fragility
@zein9227
@zein9227 11 ай бұрын
Chargers have elite talent in all key positions, especially on defense and at WR and RB but the clock is ticking. Now that he got paid, he has to deliver.
@joemolina4351
@joemolina4351 11 ай бұрын
he has delivered. he’s had a historically bad defense and coaching staff. he had the worst OC in football last year. and still balled out. Herbert is the reason the chargers are even winning games. without herbert, the chargers would maybe win 5 games
@stephensullivan1011
@stephensullivan1011 11 ай бұрын
Nah time for the coaches to coach. Herbert has delivered plenty.
@iali00
@iali00 11 ай бұрын
Got the right complexion. Lamar got dragged through the mud. Had an MVP and took his team to the playoffs every year he played. Racisms alive and well. Nobody is covering that in the media.
@damianpresha9833
@damianpresha9833 11 ай бұрын
A SuperBowl head coach and elite defense can't leave that out. His expectations should be higher plus his numbers trash I don't get the outrage.
@chetjablonski1993
@chetjablonski1993 11 ай бұрын
One had an agent while the other did not. We don’t know what went on behind closed doors. And this is bunk, look how effortless Hurts, Wilson & Mahomes got their bags $$$. It’s all relative. I thinking you’re reading into this too much and being paranoid. Good luck this year though!
@iali00
@iali00 11 ай бұрын
@@chetjablonski1993 Dak had an agent but had the same thing. They still talk about all the money he got from the Cowboys but forgetting he had to play on a franchise tag. He also had more accomplishments than Herbert.
@iali00
@iali00 11 ай бұрын
@@damianpresha9833 that Super Bowl head coach and defense were headed for a losing season when Lama took over. It’s obvious there’s a double standard but keep denying it if that’s what you like to do.
@damianpresha9833
@damianpresha9833 11 ай бұрын
@@iali00 There's no double standard they gave him the keys changed the offense. Made him a star had a top 3 defense his first three years. He didn't produce a SuperBowl run even though he was A league MVP. He underperformed throwing the ball when they needed it the most. Yall need to face the reality he has not lived up to the expectations made by people like you who make excuses every step of the way. I call it right down the middle. Fact is he about to make all this money yet There's no pressure for the Ravens to win the SuperBowl yet Joe Flacco had to get paid before he got paid. Lamar got it handed to him not to say he didn't deserve the money. However Ravens fans don't care if he win a SuperBowl as long he got paid. Keep crying about racism Joe Flacco gets crapped on all the time everything fair.
@Ramiz112
@Ramiz112 11 ай бұрын
This is a real question; What quarterback has ever overcome horrible coaching and a dysfunctional franchise and made consistent deep playoff runs?
@whitewhale9012
@whitewhale9012 11 ай бұрын
Who cares? He's choosing to stay in that situation.
@darrengordon5197
@darrengordon5197 11 ай бұрын
With all this money it’s time to win a playoff game!!!
@stephensullivan1011
@stephensullivan1011 11 ай бұрын
Time for the coaches to coach
@f3rnandoll
@f3rnandoll 11 ай бұрын
Jalen Hurts had one good season. One. Not to mention he plays in the NFC. Did we ignore Herbert’s first two seasons where he solidified himself as a Top-5 and forget that he played the entire season with fractured rib cartilage and a torn labrum on his non-throwing shoulder towards the end of the season. And still put up numbers? Need I mentioned the Chargers defense?
@CastroJr92
@CastroJr92 11 ай бұрын
Hurts was 2nd Team All Pro. 2nd in MVP voting. Balled out in the SB. Coulda easily won MVP and been 1st Team All Pro had he not been injured and a bounce here or there and he's a SB Champ and SB MVP on top of it. He's accomplished more in less time than Herbert. Herbert has to not just win a playoff game but make a deep run. Conference Championship at least.
@TruthLC
@TruthLC 11 ай бұрын
@Stephennatoli While I agree with this, at the same time OP's right about Hurts only having one dominant season
@WeylandLabs
@WeylandLabs 11 ай бұрын
Its 42 million per year not 52 million, the new contract negates his rookie contract and its a total of 7 years. DYOR
@heberhernandez2879
@heberhernandez2879 11 ай бұрын
I feel like there are times Herbert outperforms mahomes against each other. But mahomes doing mahomes-like things outshines Herbert stats. And defense letting chiefs win. I still think even if Herbert does beat mahomes multiple times not winning division will still be his next negative criticism. I mean coach plays a big role. Who would you have Reid or Staley. Reid been proven 20+ years
@raptoryoppey7277
@raptoryoppey7277 11 ай бұрын
Agreed herbert has played equally as well as mahomes in almost every single matchup difference is cheifs somehow always end up with the ball last lol and our defense can’t stop a nosebleed Herbert woulda have 3 wins against mahomes if his defense stopped the cheifs in the last 2 mins
@heberhernandez2879
@heberhernandez2879 11 ай бұрын
@@raptoryoppey7277 it’s also hard to beat someone that is in your division because teams draft to beat division opponents
@suv3534
@suv3534 11 ай бұрын
The only time Herbert outplayed Mahomes was week 3 2021 every other game Mahomes outplayed him
@mikecutz6387
@mikecutz6387 11 ай бұрын
plz keep joe haden on this show & more often...
@snorris
@snorris 11 ай бұрын
HE NEEDS TO BE AN MVP CANDIDATE AND WIN A PLAYOFF GAME NOW. LAMAR JACKSON ENERGY
@billymakale1338
@billymakale1338 11 ай бұрын
I like this new dude. He's chill. Please don't bring acho back
@Ausin204
@Ausin204 11 ай бұрын
I really admire you
@fr3akzilla769
@fr3akzilla769 11 ай бұрын
Couldn't ask for a better Herbert contract as a Chiefs fan 😂
@NickMendez2321
@NickMendez2321 11 ай бұрын
I mean it doesn’t exactly benefit the chiefs in any way.. why would you be happy a division rival locked down one of the best QB prospects the world has ever seen through there first 3 seasons? Don’t play yourself. Everybody knows Herbert isn’t the problem with the chargers
@paulmitchell6755
@paulmitchell6755 11 ай бұрын
Congratulations Mr Herbert!
@Ramiz112
@Ramiz112 11 ай бұрын
Shady got that CTE coming on today.
@prakdescott8667
@prakdescott8667 11 ай бұрын
I’ve got nothing against Herbert, he’s good no question. I’ve just never seen a player crowned so much before accomplishing. I know I sound stupid, but I really feel if Herbert was 6’1 not 6’6, everyone would scrutinize and trash him.
@SofyeatBasketball
@SofyeatBasketball 11 ай бұрын
Lmao I thought they were talking about Aaron Rodgers with the big check means big responsibility
@freetoplay169
@freetoplay169 11 ай бұрын
These people would rather you score 1 TD per qtr vs score 30 points a game...
@jrsands
@jrsands 11 ай бұрын
The OC Joe Lombardi failed in that game.
@mashedpotato982
@mashedpotato982 11 ай бұрын
His receivers have to stay healthy though. Also, Brady didn't sign the highest contract in NFL until 2011.
@mikecutz6387
@mikecutz6387 11 ай бұрын
this panel is the best... slick and acho are cool but THIS CREW!!
@1501SMillard
@1501SMillard 11 ай бұрын
Its not the players responsibility to manage the teams salary cap.
@17thNO
@17thNO 11 ай бұрын
TJ and Shady were two of the best to do it.
@martinsleight321
@martinsleight321 11 ай бұрын
I love how the offence blasts the Jaguars up 27, yet it's the offense's fault for the loss? C'mon man. The other team has a defense too. Chargers defense lost them a won game, blaming that on the guy that orchestrated a 27 point lead is absurd. 'Oh he could've got 3 more points' he can't even do that, he's not on the punt team! They could've let him down too! If I was on the defense that night, I would be apologizing to the offense, not just Herbert.
@suv3534
@suv3534 11 ай бұрын
The defense is the only reason they had a 27-0 lead giving them short field after short field stop acting like the offense was driving down the field
@martinsleight321
@martinsleight321 11 ай бұрын
@@suv3534 I didn't say they were - I said they did enough. 27 points 'Should' win games, if your defense is upto standard, but they couldn't get off the field.
@EAGLESNETWORK
@EAGLESNETWORK 11 ай бұрын
Bro they payin QBs 554.4 million dollars basically all of they salaries combined is that come on now RBs don’t deserve AT least 13 a year
@princecheck11
@princecheck11 11 ай бұрын
crazy how matt ryan got majority of the blame for the superbowl lost but we trynna let justin herbert off the hook who supposed to be a transcendent thrower of the football
@robertgray320
@robertgray320 11 ай бұрын
Herbert is highly overrated, I've said this a while back.............the man hasn't accomplished anything. I think he's a good player, but hasn't accomplished anything to warrant such a contract. He reminds me of Matt Ryan who was good but could never be the man in big moments and he was overrated as well.
@warrengavin4502
@warrengavin4502 11 ай бұрын
The jags defense let up 3 points in the second half and your mad at the chargers defense? Chargers couldn't score without Trevor throwing pics 😂
@ACJando
@ACJando 11 ай бұрын
Look at Joy all happy her man got paid! 😂😂
@thenewguy667
@thenewguy667 11 ай бұрын
Mahomes 1st 3 years as a starter 114 tds and 23 picks . Herbert 94 tds and 35 picks .
@deppsterdeppe725
@deppsterdeppe725 11 ай бұрын
Guess what...The analysts,fans,everybody were all saying the very same criticisms and trash about Peyton Manning early in his career. All stats no wins etc Peyton did NOT win a playoff game till 2013 his 5th year. And we all know about that great story. Herbert will make his mark BIG this year.
@javongreen734
@javongreen734 11 ай бұрын
Caleb contact is going to be 400 million lmao
@user-su8nr5lp9o
@user-su8nr5lp9o 11 ай бұрын
Win or loose it’s a win win
@asmrbaby9619
@asmrbaby9619 11 ай бұрын
Can we start a petition to get joy Taylor off tv she’s terrible And had very little football knowledge
@bifrost_1824
@bifrost_1824 11 ай бұрын
I think the chargers offense doesn’t get some of the blame they deserve with the playoff loss to the jags. If the offense can’t score any points unless the defense and special team forces a turnover and give the offense short field position imo they can’t be off the hook.
@doobiemarz5385
@doobiemarz5385 11 ай бұрын
Cap…. The defense forced multiple turnovers and scored. Dude trippin
@nolimitcrane3937
@nolimitcrane3937 11 ай бұрын
Only in the first half second half they all just crumbled
@Christian-xr7hc
@Christian-xr7hc 11 ай бұрын
@@nolimitcrane3937and Herbert didn’t do anything in the second half. so he’s to blame also
@kaidencowart4412
@kaidencowart4412 11 ай бұрын
No problem getting his money i think it's ownership.
@thekyleblue8318
@thekyleblue8318 11 ай бұрын
Wait but they won't pay the running back? 🤷🏾‍♂️
@Yaaaa6379
@Yaaaa6379 11 ай бұрын
All the Lamar Jackson cryers. If he had an arm like Herbert, the ravens wouldn’t have hesitated
@mikecutz6387
@mikecutz6387 11 ай бұрын
i like joe haden on the show!! go gators!
@BratatoChip
@BratatoChip 11 ай бұрын
LMAO already can here the joy and Acho hate coming
@goldteethpoohproductions2707
@goldteethpoohproductions2707 11 ай бұрын
As a chargers fan THEY'RE RIGHT POINT BLANK PERIOD. He needs to win a playoff or more but..... HE STILL SHOULD BE TOP 5 QB (MY OPINION) MAHOMES BURROWS HERBERT ALLEN HURTS (MY OPINION)
@Cali2FRESH1
@Cali2FRESH1 11 ай бұрын
Chargers last year did what they could with what they had. Leading in injuries . Plus Herbert rib injury in game two, we fans thought the season was over. Chargers stay healthy and bolts up ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
@_unclecharles_
@_unclecharles_ 11 ай бұрын
lets be real the only reason Herbert got this money is because the Chargers wanted to get out in front of it before it was gonna cost them way more had Herbert had a good year and they won playoff games this year.
@abdeenabdul7803
@abdeenabdul7803 11 ай бұрын
Nah Ive seen Herbert do crazy things and have huge moments,just that is coach is cap 🧢
@eliasnicholson
@eliasnicholson 11 ай бұрын
What huge moments? His playoff game? Or are you talking about his regular season warmups and
@richardgeorginis2328
@richardgeorginis2328 11 ай бұрын
I've tried to watch this show, it's just bad. First Things First is WAY better.
@rorroreyes1739
@rorroreyes1739 11 ай бұрын
Bolt up Herbie glad you got your bag
@NoGamesHere5
@NoGamesHere5 11 ай бұрын
Not half as good as Lamar or Jalen hurts but you see how they coughed that bread up. TRASH
@tyrelljefferson7718
@tyrelljefferson7718 11 ай бұрын
Its nuts he hasnt won a play off game and got his money! And he got every excuse they refused to give lamar!
@brandonsprickman372
@brandonsprickman372 11 ай бұрын
been waiting for this video. btfu
@Wraith3100
@Wraith3100 11 ай бұрын
Others have done more and had to scratch for theirs. Typical
@OustandingTv
@OustandingTv 11 ай бұрын
Keep tj on permanently
@kamryncole7738
@kamryncole7738 11 ай бұрын
Mccoy tried to go at dak.... SMH them wins talk
@Oxilus_B
@Oxilus_B 11 ай бұрын
This is how you know TJ is a Herbert fanboy. How can you and sit there and blame the defense for that playoff loss when the chargers defense forced 4 turnovers putting the chargers in great field position. Why don't you mention Herbert only having ONE passing TD the whole game on 45 passing attempts but lets continue to deflect and blame the OC and HC 😂
@christopherjudd8996
@christopherjudd8996 11 ай бұрын
When it was Deshaun Watson they said for that money he has to win the Superbowl now Watson is 7th highest paid with this new deal and Justin Herbert is the highest paid and all they're saying is win a playoff game? It's not slanted though, Not at all. This is the stuff sports analyst claim they don't do, They say we aren't slanted against any team it's all fair and unbiased. Anyone really believe that now after hearing this when just a short while back the discussion was Deshaun Watson because I certainly remember it very well.
@Shawnkula11b
@Shawnkula11b 11 ай бұрын
Does anyone actually look at burrows stats in the playoffs ? Allen has way better playoff stats again with less talent but he ride his defense to a SB now he’s the second best ?
@MikeRobNxtBestArtist
@MikeRobNxtBestArtist 11 ай бұрын
How does one have 262 million to give over 5 years. Smh. All these homeless people out here. Give hime 200 million and save the 62 for helping our people in America find a way to be great
@DonovonCampbell
@DonovonCampbell 11 ай бұрын
More defining moments have you seen his highlights….. orrrrrr Swear they don’t do there research
@hitmanl520
@hitmanl520 11 ай бұрын
I hate it that they use stats like that to make it seem like he was so amazing. Most in the first 3 years ever! He play two seasons of 17 games. The seasons are longer than ever before. He lost at home to Jimmy G. He barely made playoffs, and I don’t want to hear the injury excuses. Great qbs make other players better. He chokes and in no way should be getting that much money. They talk about all those failed 4th downs from two seasons ago… maybe they wouldn’t have to go for it so much if the kid could move the chains
@realmtreader6566
@realmtreader6566 11 ай бұрын
cry cry cry
@eliasnicholson
@eliasnicholson 11 ай бұрын
As a Chiefs fan I love seeing overhyped Justin Herbert break the bank. So the only crying will be the fans when he misses the playoffs next year 😂
@allpraisestoyah5033
@allpraisestoyah5033 11 ай бұрын
@@eliasnicholsondo people even go go chargers game? I know opponents show up in LA for those games
@hitmanl520
@hitmanl520 11 ай бұрын
@@realmtreader6566 lose lose lose…. Again
@devinpayton7475
@devinpayton7475 11 ай бұрын
I like this crew better than acho
@ThatJerkDude
@ThatJerkDude 11 ай бұрын
Show so much better with out Ocho
@Briana-a13
@Briana-a13 11 ай бұрын
Shady really never knows the names of any player… like how 😂
@CoC_Lord
@CoC_Lord 11 ай бұрын
Let’s cut him some slack, he’s been hit in the head just a few times lol
@blizz1004
@blizz1004 11 ай бұрын
Defense for 4 Turnovers. Speaking as a true WR. Smh. Blame the defense 🤬
@MBDR99
@MBDR99 11 ай бұрын
and what happened in the second half? that defense let them score every drive lmao people like you swear herberts the only dude on the field
@blizz1004
@blizz1004 11 ай бұрын
@@MBDR99 offense cannot maintain a drive. Do u know football. U pass the ball and its complete what happens. The clock stop. Four 3 and outs with nor running the ball smh. So the defense is force back on the field smh . So I guess u blame the falcons defense in the Superbowl when they lost to the PATS. SMH
@hdrogers2909
@hdrogers2909 11 ай бұрын
I guess stats dont matter to Joy. His numbers have declined his first 3 years. Albeit one of the best first 3 years for a QB stats wise......the stats were off the charts in year one. Drop in year two. And year 3 was his worst. So, sorry Joy, he has not got better every year. In this instance.....you got the bag to be on this show, now you need to perform like it.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 11 ай бұрын
Stats lie. You call it "decline"... but didn't mention WINS. For all I know, year 1 is "garbage time stats when trailing", while year 3 is "efficient playoff team".. Throw 2TDs and lose 17-14... Throw 1TD and win 7-0... Which is the better game? Sure, in one game he "threw more TDs"... but maybe he had more yards in the win... there's so much left unmentioned...
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 11 ай бұрын
Like, what if you get better teammates, so don't have as much individual pressure to score, as your team improves? NBA: 30ppg 20 win KD or 27ppg FMVP KD?
@raptoryoppey7277
@raptoryoppey7277 11 ай бұрын
What are u taking about year 2 was his best year by far so his stats didn’t decline and year 3 if u maybe watched the games his ribs were cracked all year he dealt with his Lt and RT in and out of the lineup same with his 2 best wrs and play calling was horrible and one of the worst run games in the league and a defense allowing 24 plus points a game
@relaxgaming8872
@relaxgaming8872 11 ай бұрын
If your getting over 250 m. Russell wilson had 5 wins he needs to get 7 wins. That’s successful season. Anyone with 250m needs to at least get 5 wins no need to hit playoff. Russell wilson is the standard for a 250m. Contract. 😂
@82TheGrouch
@82TheGrouch 11 ай бұрын
If HERBERT had the Bengals or Eagles defense he’d have playoff win. Burrow didn’t even score a TD in his first playoff win.
@billyclyde768
@billyclyde768 11 ай бұрын
Make up your mind Media Analysis if y'all going to criticize QB pay then, criticize across the board... why did y'all criticize Lamar Jackson again... 🤔 because he got hurt or held out games because he didn't have a deal with a average offensive line🤔 or he's not a pocket passer🤔... or he's not a typical QB.... Excuses,excuses,excuses or.... 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@CompDodgerGO
@CompDodgerGO 11 ай бұрын
Defense forced 4 turnovers stop blaming the defense if Herbert did 1 to 2 drives in the second half they win
@tlkert2782
@tlkert2782 11 ай бұрын
Pretty sure his 1st & 2nd year Herbert beat KC at Arrowhead both times. And the losses were at home in OT & or were close, down to seconds. But I agree, need more standout plays and that would be super regardless of being paid or not. Lol. PS THANK YOU for doing this w/o that manchild Emmanuel. Appreciated!
@suv3534
@suv3534 11 ай бұрын
Ain’t no way you using a game where the Chiefs benched their starters 🤣🤣
@ggtmnickk2222
@ggtmnickk2222 11 ай бұрын
Dak lives in shady’s head 😂
@SPLICER21PS3
@SPLICER21PS3 11 ай бұрын
I swear this show isn't analytic in the slightest. All they can see is W/L, in every take. Herbert has had magical moments every season, acting like he's a one-man team is a stupid.
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