Not only do I understand Batman and his interpretations better now, but I’ve learned a lot about archetypes and how they apply to my own writing and my own characters. Thank you as always for these amazing videos!
@Trickpants6 жыл бұрын
Hey! Random question, but I'm curious - what do you write? Any particular genres?
@codylakin2886 жыл бұрын
Thanks for asking! I tend to write in any genre that fits the kind of story I want to be telling, whether it’s literary, horror, fantasy, sci-fi, drama, and so on, sometimes mixing several together. It’s hard to describe! But I’m a published writer (with a small but good publisher) and you can read the description or sample of my second book here, if you’re curious. It’s a thriller with elements of fantasy and the supernatural, though I tend to call it “philosophical fantasy,” or “visionary fiction” apparently works as well. For me the most important is what story the story is telling, if that makes sense-what deeper meanings or philosophies or truths lie at the heart. The plot is the gravy on top ;) www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075297D9F Are you a writer?
@javan69825 жыл бұрын
Check out Professor Geek channel.
@javan69825 жыл бұрын
You need to check out Professor Geek channel
@yt-sh4 жыл бұрын
Checkout the anatomy of story by John Truby Its a book which either Nolan uses or is based on for Batman 1 & 2
@jaylawrence86736 жыл бұрын
I'm whatever Gotham needs me to be English translation: I'm whatever the writer wants me to be
@dinha10ok6 жыл бұрын
I would say "I'm whatever the story needs me to be." Batman is a very flexible character.
@jp38136 жыл бұрын
That first sentence isn't English?
@210rebelboy5 жыл бұрын
"I'm a fictional character you could probably do anything with. They've given me lantern rings, combined me with wolverine, given me all the knowledge in the multiverse, turned me into evil versions of myself. They've made me a vampire, an actual fucking bat. They sent me through time and I was a caveman and a pirate, etc. Ive starred as the lead of three Lego movies. Literally just think of any idea, doesn't matter how bad or simple, and just make me the main character. Put me on a cooking show."
@Player-re9mo5 жыл бұрын
@@210rebelboy I'd really want to see batman on a cooking show
@MuthaFukinRick5 жыл бұрын
@@Player-re9mo Announcer: Tonight in Batman's Kitchen! Batman yells: Aquaman, get the *beep* over here! Batman: Did you make these scallops? Aquaman: Yeah Batman: Can you talk to them? They're so bloody raw they should still be alive enough for you to *beep*-ing talk to them! Aquaman begins to weep. Batman: Who decided to put Aquaman on scallops, eh? WHO?! Batman throws plate of scallops across kitchen. Batman: Penguin. Scallops. Now. Penguin waddles past a weeping Aquaman. Laughs in Penguin.
@HxH2011DRA6 жыл бұрын
"I'm whatever Gotham needs me to be" Legendary line
@FreyaEinde6 жыл бұрын
The Hunter x Hunter 2011 Dickriding Association Batman we need you at the bake sale!
@HxH2011DRA6 жыл бұрын
FreyaEinde He'd do it too XD
@LeonardBillsMcGoatPryor6 жыл бұрын
To sum up what this two-part video essay is saying, in my opinion, the kind of hero Batman is really depends on how he's portrayed and on who's writing him. While most modern DC fans recognize him as a dark and gritty hero, there's still the underlying fact that his characterization has changed throughout the years since his first appearance 79 years ago.
@RonaldCorbin146 жыл бұрын
Byronic Heroes are my second favorite types of heroes (after idealistic, but naive classic anti-heroes). They're so driven and inspiring, but also insufferable and vexing. They're the epitome of someone you love to watch but would hate to know. By the way, if you know any other good videos or books analyzing Byronic heroes I would love to know.
@tessacarstairs59982 жыл бұрын
Sasuke Uchiha from Naruto!
@savvas_tsigou5 жыл бұрын
Isn't The Mask of Zorro the most underrated movie ever? The visuals, the cast, the score, the swordfights.... IT'S AMAZING!
@boiledelephant5 жыл бұрын
Neil Gaiman's short comic Whatever Happened To The Caped Crusader? is about exactly this quality of Batman, that he's different things to different people as times change, and that he's as much a folk myth as an actual person. Gaiman takes it to the next level, imagining the creative cycle of rewrites as an actual metaphysical event in the DC universe that sees Batman endlessly reborn in a cycle of eternal return, forever being Batman, forever dying in endless ways for the city. (It's fucking lit, I highly recommend reading it.)
@Pilusmagnus6 жыл бұрын
I said in the previous episode that Kylo Ren was a great romantic hero, but actually he would fit more with your description of the Byronic hero. He embodies that raw strength of nature (in this case, of the Force) that rises against the corrupt virtue of the Jedi, but he also wants to quench an eternal self-destructive thirst for power. The strength of his character comes from that he is animated by contradictory drives. He is megalomaniac, but he hates himself. He wants to bring order to the Galaxy, but also to destroy everything.
@BenjaminWhitley6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you've never seen Star Wars, because Kylo Ren is the villain and the Jedi are the heroes.
@amberdent6516 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's what Pilusmagnus is saying. Kylo Ren is framed as the villain in Star Wars because Star Wars isn't a Romantic story and it sure isn't the story of an anti-hero. However, in Romantic stories (and by proxy Byronic ones), Kylo Ren would be the one framed as the protagonist. He has the attributes of a Byronic hero even if Star Wars specifically doesn't frame him that way. And that might be the overall point of characterizing Kylo Ren in this way. Some people could be fooled into thinking that Byronic heroes are good or right or having a point, but in the end they are usually still in the wrong and usually more interested in themselves.
@Pilusmagnus6 жыл бұрын
I don't care if he's not technically the hero. He's the driving force of the new trilogy, and one of the characters who takes the most important decisions. He might not be the hero, but he is the co-protagonist, along with Rey. It's not that clear in The Force Awakens, but becomes undeniable in The Last Jedi.
@valerioboldreghini42394 жыл бұрын
Kylo Ren is trash, a flat forgettable character without any charisma
@sarasamaletdin45746 жыл бұрын
I doupt Mr Darcy is based on Byron since the book was written in 1797 even if it was published in 1813. And Mr Darcy is Byronic hero mostly before you actually see his inner character.
@sparksbet6 жыл бұрын
Yeah based on this definition of a Byronic hero, Darcy doesn't really fit, he doesn't really exhibit most of the character traits associated with a Byronic hero -- those that he appears to hold earlier in the novel (such as his unfair, self-centered treatment of Wickham) are largely proven to be errors on the part of Lizzie's judgment of his character. He's certainly got the typical Byronic aesthetic, but the description here doesn't really fit him. Heathcliffe from Wuthering Heights was a much better example of a Byronic hero, and I'm surprised he didn't bring up Frankenstein and His Monster, both of whom are certainly Byronic heroes by this definition.
@wen17466 жыл бұрын
Sara Samaletdin yep, i was thinking that exactly. darcy is more of a convoluted nerd, at best. bad at talking, and predjudiced, yes. but hardly byronic i think.
@FreyaEinde6 жыл бұрын
I blame adaptation distillation Darcy is supposed to be more an honorable fop but times change and dark and handsome is what gets the ladies going in this era. Hence why you get dark and brooding Darcy .
@sarasamaletdin45746 жыл бұрын
FreyaEinde, the 2005 version has issued but the 1995 was pretty perfect. And people who have red the book like Darcy because he is a caring awkward guy once you get to know him.
@JaneHeir5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Jane Austen had heavily revised P&P and sent it to the publisher by 1812, the same year Byron became an international celebrity with Childe Harold's Pilgrimage--the first instance of the Byronic hero. I wouldn't even call Darcy a Byronic hero before we get to know him more. He has only a few of the surface characteristics. He's certainly not a rebel or an outsider or an engaging personality. Byronic heroes are dangerously personable, reeling people in, male and female (like Evgeny Onegin, Byron's Don Juan, Lermontov's Pechorin, etc.). The only surface attraction Darcy has is his money. The Bronte sisters on the other hand...yeah, 100% Byronic.
@Zombiesnyder136 жыл бұрын
Now do with LOGAN
@lukeskywalkerthe2nd7736 жыл бұрын
Kyle Campbell That would be awesome! :)
@TheGeorgeD136 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to explore how Hugh Jackman's run as Wolverine has evolved over time with the films he was in.
@chrisroberts64776 жыл бұрын
Yea but the real Wolverine not that lameass Fox trash.
@spinakker146 жыл бұрын
Chris Roberts you mean the comic book Wolverine Peter Holmes made fun of, the guy who just blindly charges into everything?
@Zombiesnyder136 жыл бұрын
Chris Roberts How about his last movie, LOGAN?
@user-hh4xs7ml7s6 жыл бұрын
Shit this came out faster then I expected
@lukeskywalkerthe2nd7736 жыл бұрын
1 Ikr
@kissmyasthma31556 жыл бұрын
I know right, when I saw this video I shit myself faster than expected 😂😂
@MachineFuckingHate6 жыл бұрын
I personally think you should've take a look at some other stories about Batman, not just The Dark Knight Returns. Like Denny O'Neil's 70's run. Which influenced Nolan's movies just as much as Miller's work.
@thelittlepasty83606 жыл бұрын
EgocentricHead that version is more of the romantic hero
@MachineFuckingHate6 жыл бұрын
The Little Pasty, Denny O'Neil's Batman was also a "romantic hero".
@thelittlepasty83606 жыл бұрын
EgocentricHead that’s what I said
@rmsgrey6 жыл бұрын
DKR pretty much stakes out one extreme of Batman interpretation - much like Adam West is another extreme. It makes reasonable sense to focus on a handful of extreme interpretations rather than trying to fill in every nuance of interpretation in between...
@Junebug_online6 жыл бұрын
I agree. Nolan and Miller's work are undeniably great, but SO overdone. Not enough talk about Batman's true comic greats
@k1tkat-kate6 жыл бұрын
7:47 well I sure wasn't expecting to get hit with the nostalgia of Disney's Robin hood while watching a video about batman, but here we are! Ps I love that song
@thomasgrindol91246 жыл бұрын
Odd suggestion but how about a video on how to make a great title.
@lukeskywalkerthe2nd7736 жыл бұрын
I love how Batman is a bit of every kind of Hero! That is pretty cool! Amazing video Just Write! :)
@samdawson82976 жыл бұрын
Batman is able to become all these different hero types because he's such a well put together hero
@michaelcoffey19914 жыл бұрын
Least you cover the Batman the animated series which animated or non animated we here feel is the best take on Batman in it's entirety.
@cyberperson536 жыл бұрын
Mr. Darcy's more a romantic hero, I'd say. He's a bit withdrawn, but he's not really psychologically tormented in the way that Rochester or Heathcliff (or Batman) are, and his key characteristic turns out to be his integrity.
@stephenh.83366 жыл бұрын
7:46 Whistle song from the animated Robin Hood film. Perfect for talking about folk heroes.
@ShinbrigTV6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode. One of the reason why I love Batman so much is because you can play with his mythos with just about everything. He can do horror in comics, neo-noir, comedy with the Adam West stuff and so on.
@WritingGeekNL6 жыл бұрын
I use a lot of 'enhanced interegation' in my TellTale playthrough of Batman, hehe.
@wyldshot6666 жыл бұрын
THIS GREAT!!! A FEW YEARS AGO, I GOT INTO THE PSYCHOLOGICAL ASPECT OF HEROS AND VILLIANS. THIS JUST ADDS TO MY INTEREST AND PROSPECTIVES. I HAVE LEARN A LOT TODAY. THANKS!
@onboardmanx74616 жыл бұрын
4:58 lol that's what civil war did with cap and iron man
@njstuckey6 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it's hard to say which was the established and which was supposed to be byronic. Cap is technically going against the "establishment" (i.e. the globalist progressive UN), but the values he represents (America's staunch individualism and the right of individual self-determination even to the perceived or real detriment of the majority) are more in line with what we would usually call traditional or established values (at least, in America). Whereas Iron Man is the reverse; he represents the "establishment" of the UN/govt but his values of global harmony would typically be seen as anti-traditional in America. It was a pretty clever continuation of the themes started in Winter Soldier and I think it's why I love the last two Captain America movies. They do a good job of showing that globalism vs. individualism is not a black and white struggle, there are good reasons for both. And I love that they have kept Captain America true to the American ideals of the 1940's, even if he doesn't like what modern America has done with those values.
@TheLastArkham6 жыл бұрын
That part about Batman year100 is actually very interesting. In the JLA comic "Golden Perfect", when Wonder Woman breaks the lasso of truth, and reality starts to distort, batman becomes like a horrific shadow with only gleaming red eyes, cause that is what most people believe him to be.
@adamsaleh19875 жыл бұрын
I didn't want this video to end! Terrific!
@dogestranding50476 жыл бұрын
I like that last part. Since he's a symbol and rarely seen by the people, he can be depicted in so many ways. It makes me wonder if the stories, shows, movies, and comics about him are supposed to be actual depictions of him or just the stories about him- depicting him as all sorts of things. Or maybe they're all real but take place in alternate universes. There's another character who's similar in terms of ability to him who is also a legend and a symbol: Big Boss from Metal Gear. He's legendary in terms of his abilities and accomplishments and his name is adopted by a few people.
@RetepAdam5 жыл бұрын
I love that you used Cary Elwes there.
@brainrunnethout5 жыл бұрын
I loved hearing Whistle Stop in this.
@zarquondam5 жыл бұрын
Jane Austen wrote the first draft of "Pride and Prejudice" in 1797, and the second draft in 1812. Byron did not become famous until 1812, with the publication of the first installment of "Childe Harold." Since the first draft of "Pride and Prejudice" is lost, we don't know how extensive the revisions were, but the likelihood that Byron was a major influence on the character of Darcy seems a bit slim. Also, while Darcy is arrogant and brooding and misunderstood, he is also scrupulously moral, and even a bit of a prig; he's the upholder of traditional virtue against the scoundrel Wickham. All this seems rather un-Byronic.
@cinematastic18144 жыл бұрын
These videos of urs are amazing and really capture what kind of hero Batman is.
@XellossBoi6 жыл бұрын
Oh I'm so happy to see part 2 posted already! The first half was really excellent. Thank you!
@Oxtocoatl135 жыл бұрын
I couldn't help but smile when the whistle tune of Disney's Robin Hood began playing in the background.
@spinakker146 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I loved these two videos. Not only because you used literary analysis, but also because of how well you put everything together. Now I have proof why I think Batman is the most interesting superhero On a sidenote, are you interested in examining other superheroes too?
@Nkanyiso_K6 жыл бұрын
That was so good I can't believe we got part 2 so quickly. I remember *_Sage Rants_* your 3 part Epic breaking down The Last Airbender adaptation was brilliant but I'm glad you changed the channel to be more explicitly educational
@BatmanKnightfan5 жыл бұрын
“SWEAR TO ME!!!”
@tomsteer34856 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these videos, they were incredibly insightful. One of my own main protagonists took Batman as one his inspirations, channelling the trope back into a modernised pulp antihero context. I’m going to be watching these videos several times because they helped me understand my character immensely.
@barrettdecutler89795 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video. Great writing, awesome editing (with lots of little Easter eggs), and a lot of quality information presented in a succinct and clear way. This is the kind of thing KZfaq was made for. Who would have thought that we could get moral philosophy and literary analysis in talking about some picture books wherein a depressed man dresses up in bat pajamas and beats up strangers?
@abecallard4426 жыл бұрын
for 300k subs, you have incredibly good production and editing
@ComicBookSyndicate4 жыл бұрын
This is my new favourite channel.
@harsyakiarraathallah22225 ай бұрын
Batman to me is, an Epic Hero: cause he is Inspiring and Destine or Curse or Choose an Unending Mission of his own, a Tragic Hero: cause he has the Flaw of being too Humane and Morally Devoted, a Romantic Hero: cause he Rebels against the Norms to be a Symbol, a Byronic Hero: cause he is so Selfish at he's own Believe, an Anti-Hero: cause he work in he's own Way and Question the World he's Living in, a Folk Hero: cause he is like a Fairytale, a Myth, and a Legend. In Short he is One of the Many GOAT of Fiction.
@farhankhan18665 жыл бұрын
Love how Snape is a Byronic Hero
@ginsan81984 жыл бұрын
It's actually a good education video. A lot of useful information about character wrtiting. Thanks!
@MutantsInDisguise4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos. I love Batman, but your two-part videos have helped me understand him better.
@sandsmd98196 жыл бұрын
Your videos are helpful and knowledgeable for writers including me.
@nanajiloh6 жыл бұрын
The first time around I wasn't looking at the screen and I swear I heard "He's a bionic hero" and I was super confused.
@robchuk41366 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I'd love to see a series of this archetype psychology on Batman's different villains.
@Beevenhouse6 жыл бұрын
Wuthering Heights is one of my favorite novels. And I'm a middle age book nerd, so I've read tons of books. This one actually fascinates me. I usually consider that, in order for anyone to enjoy a piece of fiction, you have to genuinely care about at least one of the characters. In Wuthering Heights, I don't care whether any of the characters live or die. And yet, I absolutely love it. Just for that. Emily Brontë is by far my favorite Brontë sister.
@yusufshaikh24806 жыл бұрын
Miller's Batman is close to Rorschach in watchmen
@RicardoWilliams2 жыл бұрын
You should do a Part 3 of this with the depiction of the new Batman.
@robertdennys89946 жыл бұрын
A well-thought out and well-informed piece, with great clip usage.
@PatrickCrosman6 жыл бұрын
Positively incredible. One of the best Batman discussions I have seen. Thank you.
@GunnarClovis6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic set of videos! Really engaging content, really interesting topic, great structure, good sound mixing, good narration, good video editing, just really fantastic
@aurorasartorialis70926 жыл бұрын
Highwaymen - the original vigilantes. We forget, because they’re coöpted by pirates, which end up taking on quite different connotations.
@irrevenant36 жыл бұрын
That's really interesting. Perhaps one reason that Batman is such a popular character is that he lends himself to being the hero to so many different types of story. We can fondly remember the ones we like, and dismiss the others as aberrations...
@AlliWalker6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Darcy isn't Byronic. Rochester and Healthcliff, most definitely, but not Darcy.
@Whokilledbob6 жыл бұрын
This is probably my favorite videos of yours. Nice work!
@enzmondo6 жыл бұрын
The most glaring and intentional showing of the folk hero is during the ending of Batman Arkham Knight where he was already saying goodbye to the people he cares about. He knew he needed to end it all because he felt he was the reason his team mates (or anyone who sides with him-take Poison Ivy for example) keep getting into life and death situations. And for that reason, he didn’t want to be Batman anymore. And having shown himself to the world, the further preempted his decision to end his tenure as Batman. Batman without the mask is useless. The only problem with the ending of Arkham Knight was how he knew Gotham was already good having no Batman. There wasn’t an example of how crime fell or why people stood up to themselves to criminals or why they all decided they didn’t need a Batman. For some reason there was a sudden drop of corruption because Jim Gordon was leading the polls in his campaign as mayor. What further weakened Bruce’s decision was when they didn’t show the father of the mugged family stand up for them. One of Bruce’s greatest regrets was that neither him nor his father stood up to the mugger. And even in cooperation, the guy shot them. Again, there was no showcase of a boost of heroism inside the citizens of Gotham when Batman left. This could’ve been what Bruce said about Gotham needing something worse than Batman to scare off cowardly criminals. A better way of ending the epilogue scene in Arkham Knight having the father of the family stand up to the muggers and then have a vision of a bat flying towards them.
@kannakamui23346 жыл бұрын
These were good videos and it was very eye opening. It's true Batman can be any hero arch type depending on the iteration. This also taught be a lot about all the different categories for hero arch types.
@GuiRuiz6 жыл бұрын
Great video, man! I really like how deep your search goes, all the way back to Aristotle's Poetics to Frye. But I think I would have liked more to see why Batman is depicted one way or another in each of these versions. You hinted at it at the very end, but I would really dig to see a more deep explanation of why a specific version of the character is more fit (or not) to a certain time and place. But anyway! Keep the good work, really appreciate your videos ;)
@PabloGRocks6 жыл бұрын
Love this analyzation of heroes. I just wish he'd do a video on each individual type. That would be awesome
@Dante3436 жыл бұрын
Great to see Part 2! KZfaq didn't show it in my recommendations, hence the delay in watching. Better late than never though :D
@whitherwhence6 жыл бұрын
I love the art for the thumbnails. Who makes it?
@frankegordon3266 жыл бұрын
Frank miller drew it for tdkr
@SpicyMilk5 жыл бұрын
He just runs movie frames through an art filter. Lots of programs for that online.
@davomar115 жыл бұрын
This two-part video was AWESOME! You should come teach at my university
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache6 жыл бұрын
The one we deserve, something something, not the one we need, something something...
@towerfilmscanada8676 жыл бұрын
Batman as a Byronic Hero. What a fantastic and intriguing analysis.
@PK-MegaLolCaT6 жыл бұрын
That was great! your analysis of batman is very interesting.
@danielbach18316 жыл бұрын
Really great video! Great writing and neat analysis!
@rafaelc.c.4 жыл бұрын
7:46 Beautiful Robin Hood music.
@Shiva_Codes6 жыл бұрын
Excellent finale to the writing of Batman....
@patdiener38106 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Well done!!
@thestarkknightreturns5 жыл бұрын
Frank Miller's Batman is my favourite version, aside from the classic Batman. He is a massive powerhouse of age-old grit and vengeful rage, complemented by a blatant need to go over the top in his violent methods to compensate for his crippling aging - so that he suffers no pity from his younger, more capable enemies, while restoring the long-lost authority he succesfully implemented back when he was fear itself. The perfect hero for the middle-aged man: someone who has WAY passed the prime of his life, was left behind and outlasted everything he loved and stood for. But someone who has preserved his conservative worldview on morality and right and wrong, and still has a beast roaring inside him to get back out, willing to impose one last hurrah over all the wrongdoers - by extreme force and until death, if necessary.
@darkcowl6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I would love to see another part describing your interpretation of batman's psyche. A great comic book to reference would be Batman: Ego. Thank you!
@IDidntSetAHandle6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic two parter. Thank you!
@treetheory84656 жыл бұрын
this was again. a great video a great series of what i think are some of your best videos
@G-Blockster6 жыл бұрын
This is truly one of the more fascinating characters of all fiction. I believe in part because The Batman is the man's real character, while Bruce Wayne (the gentrified playboy) his his alter-ego.
@Tacom4ster6 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool, though I would have clarify the "classical antihero" with the protagonist failings are less moral, but focus more on vulnerability, like teenage Spidey, the closest to do for Batman was Keaton version who was more socially. awkward
@christiancrusader93746 жыл бұрын
Can you do this with superman? I realize he would be more classical hero, but i think there's more to him then people realize.
@guyr36186 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@TheLastArkham6 жыл бұрын
couldnt agree more. Its hard for people to care for superman cause they are stuck with the image of a almost god superhero with too many powers, but when you analize him more in comics like All-Star Superman, or Superman for all Seasons, or Superman Earth One, he can be truly fascinating
@christiancrusader93746 жыл бұрын
TheLastArkham i also like superman vs the elite. Even superman for the animals let us get a look into his head.
@dantothex136 жыл бұрын
I like that the, "I'm whatever Gotham needs me to be." Had to have subtitles! haha
@acrowbar23946 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a similar sort of dissection like this of Superman. He doesn't get the same attention as Batman sometimes and we haven't seen a decently done modern version in cinema in the same way Batman was done by Nolan. They tried to "Nolanize" Superman in a way without understand how Nolan did it with Batman, nor understanding Superman as a character outside of a Randian sort of deconstruction of the character. Justice League made him likable again but it felt stilted probably because of how different he was acting from how he did in the previous two movies. I'm not sure. I think I like the Smallville version of Clark most but I can't quite explain why. He just feels like the most relatable version of the character, probably because he isn't at his peak potential until the end of the series (and cuz apparently Kryptonite is literally anywhere and everywhere in some form).
@steveconnolly95856 жыл бұрын
The Dark Knight trilogy are my favorite movies of all time, and I remember back around 2008 a friend told me to read the Frank Miller graphic novel. I remember thinking I couldn't care less, find it less interesting, or less memorable, but when the movies came out I watched them on a loop. Am I alone in this respect? Anyone else?
@BenjaminWhitley6 жыл бұрын
Since there was also animated adapations of Miller's The Dark Knight Returns, it's not entirely clear what you mean, but I assume you're saying you loved the Nolan trilogy but couldn't get into Miller's DKR. DKR was extremely influential, but it's not a good entry into comics and graphic novels. Your friend should have recommended Frank Miller's Batman: Year One. It's a hell of a lot easier to get into, has much nicer art, and is the primary influence on Batman Begins. And the influence of Returns isn't really felt until Rises.
@xdevantx58705 жыл бұрын
Batman is not a hero, he is a vigilante. He is not interested in justice, only vengeance. Trying to fit him into a hero role will not work because he is not one. He seeks only to punish criminals; doing whatever it takes to satisfy his revenge against the concept of crime. He will not kill the criminal because he is at war with the action of the crime, not the person doing it. Once the crime (current or potential future crime) has be stopped the conflict is over. Killing the person just means that crime has won again.
@boythatis12 жыл бұрын
Great series!
@sethdavis37726 жыл бұрын
Great video man! Very well done!
@gabrielfraga17426 жыл бұрын
Amazing couple of videos, man!
@iKhanKing6 жыл бұрын
I think what’s interesting about Batman is that the public understanding of how Batman “should be” is all of these mixed together. To me Batman is Byronic in the sense that he no longer seeks happiness as Bruce Wayne. He’s tragic in how his unwillingness to move on from his parents combined with his unwillingness to kill lead to an unending war that saps his spirit. He’s classic in his clear sense of morality.
@rmsgrey6 жыл бұрын
Except when he does seek happiness - all the times he's been linked with Selina Kyle, for example. Or the 90s Batman movies with their recurring theme of Bruce Wayne trying to find Miss Right, only for her to disappear by the next movie. And in Dark Knight Rises, he even walks away from Gotham and the role as Batman to live as Bruce Wayne... Even when he's not actively seeking fulfillment as Bruce Wayne, it's a recurring theme that he needs to balance his two sides - Batman and Bruce - rather than letting the Bat take over.
@iKhanKing6 жыл бұрын
That's fair. It does seem that the balance is a central conflict of the character.
@rmsgrey6 жыл бұрын
It's not helped by his guest and/or ensemble appearances in non-Batman stories, where, with very few exceptions, he's consistently Batman rather than Bruce Wayne.
@MentalStillness6 жыл бұрын
In reality he's a psychopath and he would definitely be a Killer in real life. A real person dealing with trauma the way Bruce does would go insane and if he did fight crime he would be a full time killer.
@zdoriksandorik6 жыл бұрын
Amazing videos! thank you so much, this is very interesting) Brought back all my memories from literature classes in school) if they were taught this way - explaining the character instead of like, retelling the plot of the story, i'm sure they would've been more interesting)
@hamzaal-qwaizi44364 жыл бұрын
Can you do part 2 , I’ve been waiting a while, me and the others,come on man.
@RemusNeo6 жыл бұрын
He's Batman!
@ethanrummel76386 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant, I think that Batman is the best fictional character ever and this is probably the best explanation of why he might be just that
@rachelm90466 жыл бұрын
amazing video as usual!
@banzay1236 жыл бұрын
brilliant video as usual. i wish you a successful career in the film industry!
@ZBoy-rc8zf6 жыл бұрын
Lelouch is a great example of a Bryonic Hero & 4:13-5:03 explains suzuka as a character
@AcolytesOfHorror6 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to see a follow up to this where you dive into what it is about Batman that has proven so malleable over the years.
@androssteague6 жыл бұрын
Hey Just Write! Can you make a video essay on what kind of villain is joker and explain the different types of villains?
@nont184114 жыл бұрын
5:42 Walt is not an antihero. He’s a straight-up villain.
@tricaurelie5 жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@ethansexton25906 жыл бұрын
Well played.
@nicholaswolff72046 жыл бұрын
Byron! Yes!
@dumliz5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm shocked that you left out Dorian Gray as an example of a byron esce hero and the scarlet pimpernel similarities should definitely be discussed! Maybe in a video of its own?
@virusguy56116 жыл бұрын
Welp this was definitely worth waiting for. Oddly enough, I feel like you ended it in a way that could make a third part..