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JVC NZ8 vs Sony XW7000es! 2022 Projector Shootout

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Shane Lee

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Shane compares the JVC NZ8 against the Sony XW7000es projector.
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@justchilling4491
@justchilling4491 Жыл бұрын
Imagine having Robert as your dad how cool would that be
@keepingupwiththejones2933
@keepingupwiththejones2933 Жыл бұрын
I hear he is looking to adopt a 40 year old ish AV nerd😭😅
@junior-OG
@junior-OG Жыл бұрын
@@keepingupwiththejones2933 lol
@craigosterberg5045
@craigosterberg5045 Жыл бұрын
Looks like Sony better
@peat381low8
@peat381low8 11 ай бұрын
Both are a win. So many dark scenes in today's shows and movies. But people always remember the bright highlights. Dolby vision on my iPad Pro and even on my 55 inch TCL always blows me away. So I'd have to go with the Sony.
@jebo4jc
@jebo4jc Жыл бұрын
Man these high end projectors give me the upgrade itch for my Epson 5400
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
FYI: Just called a local audio / video specialty dealer who told me that a recent Sony WX 6000es projector, while it functions well, is quite noisy. So noisy, the dealer will need to build a custom baffle box for it. The owner is quite disappointed but will keep the projector. In Canada, now that Sony has done away with its “regional reps”, there is virtually no service from Sony whatsoever even for the purchasers who now have to call Sony themselves! The exact opposite is the current case in Canada for JVC who respond immediately to any issues regarding their projectors.
@robertpiil4032
@robertpiil4032 Жыл бұрын
We have the opposite in Australia. JVC services are very poor. However still going to take a chance and have ordered the nz8. Love ❤️ those JVC blacks. Soo wish the blacks were as good as the previous eshift models. 😞
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
@@robertpiil4032 All the best with your JVC purchase. A bit too big for my bookshelf application, but I will visit our local dealer in January and properly scope things out. If Sony would just issue a firmware update, all would be good. An X5000 is $7500 ($6000USD) right now which would easily meet my needs. Oh well, I am resigned to see what Sony announces at 2023 CES in Las VEGAS in early January, if anything. Thanks for the note! All the best. I think you will be quite pleased given everything I have seen on-line in realtime from two major shootouts in the U.S, that were narrowcast. Seems JVC with its 2.0 firmware update really dialled-in its tone-mapping algorithm quite nicely!
@tullebob1683
@tullebob1683 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! Which projector is best for 3D do you think? I have the nz8 and am super impressed with the 3d on it. Watching Dune in 3D with the back levels of the nz8 when run through madvr is a dream ❤
@therealshanelee
@therealshanelee Жыл бұрын
Sony has better 3D.
@Novilicious
@Novilicious Жыл бұрын
I’m going with a TCL 100 for the living room. Projectors are amazing for a darker room…unfortunately not an option for me…so I’m all about bigger TVs.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M Жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm the only person who watches movies/shows and plays games in a pitch black room. I cannot stand having lights on in a room. I want complete immersion.
@Novilicious
@Novilicious Жыл бұрын
@@PSYCHOV3N0M lol, me too. I got windows everywhere tho
@valueelectronics9390
@valueelectronics9390 Жыл бұрын
UST projectors are designed to perform very well in multi purpose room with ambient light. We demonstrate them in our very bright showroom with very excellent picture quality. 3D also looks stunning on the large screen as does all sports and all streaming and Blu-ray discs. Prices for premium UST projectors is very reasonable and you can enjoy 80" - 150" screen sizes. If you are in the NY area please stop by to see our UST projection systems or call us to discuss the best UST for your application and room.
@Novilicious
@Novilicious Жыл бұрын
@@valueelectronics9390 good point!
@valueelectronics9390
@valueelectronics9390 Жыл бұрын
@@Novilicious Thank you and please visit us or call me if you want to discuss the best UST projection system for your room.
@lhl2500
@lhl2500 Жыл бұрын
In Europe (or at least in Denmark) the Sony 7000es is cheaper than the JVC NZ8. By about 1500 usd. Have been looking for a comparison between these two models, but every body is comparing the 7000es with the NZ9, which in European prices, is ridiculous. I'm leaning towards the JVC. Dark scenes are more prevalent in my movie taste.
@rihardp.4091
@rihardp.4091 Ай бұрын
@@lhl2500 ,Me too,böack level performance is like holy Grail for projectors so many years.Jvc took one picture Parameter what is most important to them and deside to be to best in specific black level Performance.They offer 3d suport like Bonus.Its hard to choose Sony over Jvc.
@ucupas
@ucupas Жыл бұрын
Hi Shane, what screen size and screen gain are you using to review the Sony 7000es projector?
@we8463
@we8463 Жыл бұрын
Shane, I find interesting that a lot of your videos are like commercials for Value Electronics Also I wonder old is Robert, 75-80 years he is probably one the very few people of his era who lived technology!
@therealshanelee
@therealshanelee Жыл бұрын
Am I talking about how great the store is or am I talking about how great the product is?
@jf9905
@jf9905 Жыл бұрын
@@therealshaneleeGaming Shane. lag input. am I doing the right thing going for about 100 inch ust lazer projector for gaming? best input lag is 20 at 1080 play and 30 at 4k for i think the awol..... I have a gaming pc so would ideal like to play 4k, but can you get a decent input lag with a 4k ust? or should i just go for 77 C2?
@scottwallace1
@scottwallace1 Жыл бұрын
Whomever told you to turn Dynamic HDR Enhancer to High? You can go ahead and forever disregard their advice. The High setting introduces insane amounts of noise and imparts an artificiality to the image. Even middle can be rough with some content (but is ok with much content). The Low setting is a nice way to add a little punch without any subjective negative impact.
@rihardp.4091
@rihardp.4091 Ай бұрын
I will buy jvc.Tnx.
@MrLianGuan
@MrLianGuan Ай бұрын
Got a deal at 9.5K for 7000es. Should I take it??
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
According to Sony the noise level from the projector should be 26db as posted on the Sony official website. The dealer measured 36db and unfortunately in a frequency range where the human ear is sensitive.
@EverythingHomeTheater
@EverythingHomeTheater Жыл бұрын
I really wish for the ultra short throw projector shootout that value Electronics could squeeze in a Formovie Theater since it won the last shootout.
@therealshanelee
@therealshanelee Жыл бұрын
None were available.
@codeless64
@codeless64 Жыл бұрын
The reason Formovie didn't enter the competition is because they are actually going to count brightness as a Parameter. The other shootout was setup by the only distributor of Formovie in the country and if he actually had the Judges count brightness, hence LASER TV, he couldn't go around claiming his projector won the showdown.
@we8463
@we8463 Жыл бұрын
Probably because they don’t sell it
@15.emanuelshaju24
@15.emanuelshaju24 Жыл бұрын
Sir does optical zooming in these projectors reduce image quality
@edub2694
@edub2694 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Was hoping to see more side by sides though. Hopefully the live stream you do isn’t as bad of quality as the other ones from the beginning of this year. You could barely make out the image on those.
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
Shane and ROBERT: I have been eagerly awaiting this shootout and hope to be able to attend in real time. If I have a question (if per chance I can’t attend in real time) it would be this, which I have made Phil Jones aware of, assuming he saw my comment in Projector Reviews on the same topic: “As a result of the MWAVE shootout last spring, it was determined by a Sony projector team engineer , who was providing commentary during the shootout, that the Sony 5000, 6000, 7000 were in need of a Base-black tone-mapping firmware update. He said: Base-black is not something the end-user can repair through various settings. It has to be done with a firmware update.” So after the MWAVE shootout, did Sony Corp. acknowledge this deficiency and if they did, what is going to be done about it? Ready to buy, BUT I am sitting on my cash until I get a proper answer: Not going to buy an expensive Sony laser projector that has been declared “with deficient black-tone-mapping vs JVC” - right out of the box!!!!
@percybedford6266
@percybedford6266 Жыл бұрын
@marvinabugov4579 I would like to know the answer to this question as well.
@therealshanelee
@therealshanelee Жыл бұрын
There's a larger issue than blacks which is mentioned in this video. Seems nobody either noticed or cares 🤷🏻‍♂️
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
@@therealshanelee Can you give us a hint in a word or two?
@therealshanelee
@therealshanelee Жыл бұрын
@@marvinabugov4579 there's several words about it in the video 🤷🏻‍♂️
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
Went over the video again: you talked about colour volume, black levels and colour gradation. Of the three, colour gradation would seem that you focused on most. Right?
@kevenkohler761
@kevenkohler761 Жыл бұрын
Hey Shane, I just bought a Mad VR Envy Extreme for my Sony XW 6000 projector. The Envy Extreme should make the picture on my 6000 a lot better right?
@therealshanelee
@therealshanelee Жыл бұрын
Nice. Yes it'll make it better. Or you can return both and get an NZ9 😉
@kevenkohler761
@kevenkohler761 Жыл бұрын
I just got my Mad VR but I bought my Sony 6000 from Value Electronics in August. I’m past the point of returning the projector
@therealshanelee
@therealshanelee Жыл бұрын
@@kevenkohler761 you’d still be waiting for an NZ9 anyways. Where’d did you get the Madvr from?
@kevenkohler761
@kevenkohler761 Жыл бұрын
I got it from Crescendo AAV. That’s my local dealer in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I just received it a few days ago.
@markmes5890
@markmes5890 Жыл бұрын
I have the NZ8 and having it in BT2020 wide (filter applied) I find this reduces light level far too much for my liking. The image would have looked much brighter and just as good to my eyes without it. Would have been interesting to see the image at mid laser without that applied
@cmnhl1329
@cmnhl1329 Жыл бұрын
Try upping the contrast levels to 10. Did the trick with my older JVC RS620.
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
Will the JVC projectors be using the latest - firmware update - just recently issued.
@therealshanelee
@therealshanelee Жыл бұрын
Yes
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
@@therealshanelee Great! (Hopefully, an answer to my base-black firmware question too.) As for Sony colour gradation, I see that issue too on my 2018 / 285es. Really surprised that Sony would still have this issue on their top-tier projector? REALLY? Sony provides a better use case for my media room application, but if Sony is to continue to be so arrogant - I will find a solution to make a JVC projector - work instead, if I am forced to - which seems to be where this is leading me. FYI for reference: Stop The FOMO’s coverage at MWAVE as per his shootout commentary on that day.
@skyfiblue
@skyfiblue Жыл бұрын
Great job guys! So for those outside the US, the XW7000 would be the better buy over the NZ8 if the price is similar?
@bhavyajain2427
@bhavyajain2427 Жыл бұрын
Bro the price difference is massive, sony is 80% more expensive than JVC, u can even get NZ9 for less than sony
@larsv6144
@larsv6144 Жыл бұрын
@@bhavyajain2427 bro, read carefully. Outside the US. In Europe you can get the XW7000 for 13,5K and the NZ8 for 15,5K. However, I just ordered the NZ8 as the HDR and black levels are better, and I like the more natural/less over processed picture.
@firmbutton6485
@firmbutton6485 Ай бұрын
@@larsv6144 where can I get it that price mate? I see the nz8 is available for 11800euros
@Trojan0304
@Trojan0304 Жыл бұрын
Happy with my JVC nx7 from 2019, firmware updates twice at no cost gives me a happy camper in my bat cave 120” screen
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
Shane: BTW: Take a look at Phil Jones very recent Sony 5000es review on his Projector Reviews channel. I fully respect Phil’s very prodigious technical acumen but I’m not sure he is entirely as “objective” as he should be? Not sure but crossed my mind?
@spizzy7996
@spizzy7996 Жыл бұрын
Shane are you using the latest firmware for the JVC that enables the new features?
@luigideangelis5688
@luigideangelis5688 Жыл бұрын
I have an X9 i witnessed a z9 demo and, sincerely, i was a little disappointed, in my hopinion the laser is not better than the traditional lamp in terms of pure video quality.
@3483maverick
@3483maverick Жыл бұрын
Laser has a less contrast ratio. My old JVC RS 540 has 130,000 to 1. The JVC NZ8 has 80,000. Of course, the NZ8 is much brighter and has native 4k. I want to upgrade to native 4k, but it's pricy.
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@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Жыл бұрын
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@DIGGERS881
@DIGGERS881 Жыл бұрын
Is the nz8 a huge upgrade over your nx7? Thanks!
@therealshanelee
@therealshanelee Жыл бұрын
Little better.
@con6164
@con6164 11 ай бұрын
Diminishing returns @@therealshanelee
@myhomeaudio8751
@myhomeaudio8751 Жыл бұрын
Looks like jvc is more value for money
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
Well, how much more money have you got? The anty starts at about $2000 more for the JVC NP5 (lamp based) vs the Sony 5000es. The difference is that JVC has already issued a firmware update to correct its projector deficiencies whereas Sony is currently resting on its laurels. If Sony has any engineering pride of production at all, they should fix and issue the firmware update for all their laser projectors . . . and all will be good! Base black is the issue . . . everything else I saw in the MWAVE shootout was fine overall for the Sony.
@robertpiil4032
@robertpiil4032 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately a firmware update will not fix poor black level. Simple as that.
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
@@robertpiil4032 At MWAVE a Sony projector team engineer said that only a firmware update could fix an issue like “base-black” and could not be fixed via end-user settings. I choise to take him at HIS words: not mine. 🤣🥳
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
@@robertpiil4032 Regardless anyway. Whatever the problem is that causes poor black levels as compared to JVC laser projectors, let Sony just fix it BEFORE I replace my current 285es with an x5000! I just don’t want to get stuck with a known deficiency before I put my money on the table for my next Sony projector. 🤣🥳
@JamesWilliams-gf8gm
@JamesWilliams-gf8gm Жыл бұрын
The Sony is the only option for gaming. The jvc is way too slow.
@Eurica76
@Eurica76 Жыл бұрын
I really would've liked to see the Formovie added to the list of UST......I'm sure someone would've let you guy's hold one.
@codeless64
@codeless64 Жыл бұрын
The reason Formovie didn't enter the competition is because they are actually going to count brightness as a Parameter. The other shootout was setup by the only distributor of Formovie in the country and if he actually had the Judges count brightness, hence LASER TV, he couldn't go around claiming his projector won the showdown.
@Eurica76
@Eurica76 Жыл бұрын
@@codeless64 Brightness is just one part not the whole shootout.
@jerroldsimbulan728
@jerroldsimbulan728 Жыл бұрын
The new jvc firmware with the new quantizer set to auto wide with mid laser should compete very well with a madvr envy with less hassle across all sources
@robertpiil4032
@robertpiil4032 Жыл бұрын
Haha 😂. The JVC DTM will never beat the madVR. It is very good, don’t get me wrong, you have to see the madVR to be able to make a comment like that. 😊
@jerroldsimbulan728
@jerroldsimbulan728 Жыл бұрын
@@robertpiil4032 I have madvr htpc and calibrated nz8.. The madvr is marginally better at dtm, if that lol The envy has other nice things going for it like non linear stretch / black bar detection and other video processing goodies But the new jvc dtm is very, very close to madvr dtm.. Prob indistinguishable unless side by side
@robertpiil4032
@robertpiil4032 Жыл бұрын
Fair enough I haven’t seen yet to make any further comments. I was comparing with my old NX7 dtm. Maybe Shane comments are valid should have saved the money on madVR and bought the nz9 😂
@jerroldsimbulan728
@jerroldsimbulan728 Жыл бұрын
@@robertpiil4032 madvr envy would be worth it if you need the extra image processing or have low res video The new jvc is very good value wise vs Sony when you factor in needing madvr for the later to be competitive Would save the money on the madvr and use it on speakers or a panamorph or something Anyways sorry ya.. The new jvc dtm is quite good in practice.. Maybe not if analyzed very minutely.. For me I don't feel I'm missing much when using shield instead of htpc
@kevenkohler761
@kevenkohler761 Жыл бұрын
The Mad Vr unit is way better than Mad Vr on the computer. I have the Sony XW 6000 with the Envy Extreme and a friend has the NZ9. My Sony with the Envy looks better than his NZ9. He even said that he wishes that he could have bought my setup instead.
@sdubvt
@sdubvt Жыл бұрын
Took 5 minutes to get to the actual content
@patrickmartin4482
@patrickmartin4482 Жыл бұрын
Who cares ? The sony will have 50% less contrast in 12 month :)
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
. . . are you just joking or are you referring to some technical issue of some sort?
@scotttild
@scotttild Жыл бұрын
Old issues with a different technology. These don’t use the same boards or bulbs as the old models did
@marvinabugov4579
@marvinabugov4579 Жыл бұрын
@@scotttild Well according to the hype for Sony / JVC,what you get is what it stays at as the light does not diminish as bulbs do. Anyway, not my bailiwick to discuss with any kind of certainty.
@patrickmartin4482
@patrickmartin4482 Жыл бұрын
@@scotttild or is no bulb and no board issue .. time will tell
@Dav3
@Dav3 Жыл бұрын
Buddy, that is not a face that is needed in 8k
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