Wolvie also calls his uniform "fighting togs". This was especially before Cassandra Nova outed Xavier, the X-Men and the true nature of the school to the public. He understood that to operate effectively as Wolverine he needed a uniform that concealed his public identity. The X-Men like many of the other Marvel Superheroes had costumes/uniforms that were either made of special substances specifically for battle (unstable molecules, Kevlar-like lining, insulation, etc.)

Tom Hardy would be great as Wolverine.

truth is costumes are hell expensive, and most actors cant maneuver through the tight costumes like the cosplay models do. thats why it takes Marvel and DC movies to come out at such late intervals as they make budget for the costumes which are authentic and easily maneuverable

Akhdar Fauad Khan Poor excuse for FOX.

Wow. Really cool.

When James Marsden said "You couldn't feel Less like a Superhero" when wearing those suits my heart kinda sank. Yeah these costumes are super important even if they're silly. At least within the decade were gonna see the MCU versions of the Characters, costumes and all

@@NiohArcadia I mean when he saying was saying that line about "You couldn't feel Less like a Superhero", He was talking about the Black suits they were wearing for the live action films, not the iconic costumes that you see in the comics and shows. He doesn't mean the iconic comic book costumes are "Silly" at all nor should you think that, he just thinks the movie costumes are restrictive. Your heart shouldn't feel "kinda sank" because he just meant the films ones.

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Also explains why they modified them for sequels to allow for more flexibility

That's exactly the same thought that I had at that moment in the film and when we see cap in that outfit for the first time I cheered and then thought to myself "God, if only Marvel had the rights to the X-men..."

Cap already had justification for wearing his costume because of the standalone movie he got in 2011 that set that up. X-Men movies didn't start with individual movies setting up them wearing their iconic costumes.

+FlawedCoil82 QFT

+FlawedCoil82 I have that book, and it's rad! The cool thing about Jim Lee's designs is that you get a sense of epicness, and gravitas from them. Especially those huge splash pages he draws, with all of the characters together. You get a sense of scale, and might I add, individuality for each character. They look strong, and confident. Same thing can be said for Alex Ross's artwork. Especially Kingdom Come.

That just made me think of the Fleer trading card Jim Lee poster designs. I really wish I had saved some of those, god knows where they are now.

FlawedCoil82 My God, the Jim Lee desings are a mess, I prefer the Whedon era uniforms; more suttle.

The Wheddon costumes were boring to me. I have always hated Cyclops' skullcap as it makes him look like a robot (Robocop) and Wolverine's tiny mask "ears" made him look fatter and much less threatening. I have found all the costumes(after the Jim Lee designs) to be boring and highly forgettable. It makes me so frustrated that the X-Men are still cursed to this very day with never-ending changing costumes that will never be remembered or regarded as "iconic" in 5 years.

substandardlysubpar honestly I believe hes not creative enough

Because Singer doesn't respect the lore of X-Men or comics in general. Raimi on the other hand respects comics and loves Spider-Man.

Because Singer Is a Narcissist Who Should have NEVER Touched a Marvel Property!!! #UGH

Doc Ock didn't wear spandex and Norman Osborn didn't have a mask that moved with his face and elf clothing

But it still somehow felt faithful to the comics, with the matching color palette(doc ock's green trench coat ), which shows a differing view on literally how the costume should aid the character, and less on whether or not it would work.

While the portrayal of Cyclops and Iceman in particular are dreadful, my biggest problem with the X-Men movies is that they are all (outside of First Class) basically Wolverine movies. From the start it's been about Wolverine's journey and he is the only character with any semblance of development.

Christopher Thomas it's so weird to see wolverine be the main character all the time when it's scott who's actually the leader lol. if they had actually set scott up right (with his background etc) then people probably would have sympathised with him at the very least.

Indeed they have, yet it is arguably a matter that should be reviewed in context of the super hero-market in 2000; the latter Superman movies and other weak attempts, such as "Steel" in (1997), and in the same year certainly the renowned "Batman & Robin" had famously all but killed the idea of super hero movies in the public mind in the late 90ths. The sign there might still be a stage for it came in the form of "Blade" (1998), which did well but did not turn popular perspective. The lesson that reasonably could be drawn, for any producer and creator who found super heroes interesting to make a movie of still, was that 'stay the hell away' from anything that may be associated to the 'camp' elements of "Batman & Robin" and thier kin (Nuclear Man, Mr Freeze and Batman nipples, anyone?). Go for a darker and so called 'realistic' apperance and tone, and the public may be reintroduced. And it did draw the crowd, not only the fans, whether of that reason or not, the gamble did seem to pay off. That said, already with Spiderman (2002) it was made clear the general public was open to 'fantastic' source material, yet the success with the X-Men presumably cemented the misconception these films required it's new 'dark' style. Likely not helped by Singer not being a fan prior to making the films, hehe.

Suicide Squad is another more recent example of how not to do it. Most characters are as brown as the rest of the movie.

The comics don't seem to be respecting the material now either-Iceman just got the 'we made him gay cos we don't know what to do with him' similar to what happened with Lightning LAd-it was a lazy stunt, as Iceman has always been shown as a ladies man. Now it's like 'oh, he only did that to hide who he was'...like, whut? For 40 years? Really? Singer was the most frustrating-he went to do Superman Returns with absolutely no concept of who Superman is or was-and not knowing that Superman continuity had changed in the almost 30 years since the Reeve film had debuted. HE then brought the same 'X-men sensibilities' to that film-with a muddy brown look to the film, and a Superman costume he was almost embarassed to make, hence the smaller logo. His other projects have been--well, fail. Especially the Tom Cruise Nazi film, which garnered more attention for the Germans hating Scientology than it did for the film itsself. And then he goes and makes X-men Apocalypse, and messes that up too. Like, he just seems like he has no clue. Like he strikes it lucky or something.

is dat design came from the comic... the colour scheme is magneto-ish but wth with dat horn attached at the front his helm

+Uno Roeslan the helmet it accurate and the colors but the suit looks rediculous

UncommonSituations Ye rite, horns do exist in comical features... To be honest, i nvr read any x-men comics... I just enjoyed 80s spiderman memes(the rude spiderman not the spoderman)

the gloss on the helmet was weird, the colors too saturated imo. it just reminded me of hard candy instead of a cool helmet

Yeah. Great.

+Charles Baker Much love

+kaptainkristian fuck your a smart lad, you could of made this video weeks prior to the final trailer yet you waited until there was attention on the net regarding this subject. I'm learning!

+kaptainkristian feels so clean and crisp, please dont stop making videos

+kaptainkristian Keep it loopy, man

+kaptainkristian Although I agree with you, you can't completely use Deadpool as a counter-example because that movie also changed character costumes as much as Singer did. Sure, they got Deadpool right, but Negasonic Teenage Warhead looks nothing like she does in the comics, neither does Ajax, Colossus and Bob's costumes colors are completely muted.

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Wow this is crazy, 5 years later in x men 97' cyclops says 'what would you prefer black leather'

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X-Men Apocalypse, First Class and to a lesser extent Days of Future Past, has a more faithful look in the movies. Deadpool Colossus seems to be a mix of the X-Men trilogy costume and the classic Colossus look

Micheal Mah'moud I liked the first class outfits

you mean black rubber ?

Exactly, it doesn't get more "campy" than Captain Americas costume and the MCU has done a great job keeping it faithful to the comics while making it look bad ass on screen (except for the first Avengers maybe).

***** Yeah that was a bit weird. Thor's looked odd in that one too.

So where's Hawkeye's classic costume from the comics in the MCU?

In the trash, where it belongs lol.

Okay, there are some exceptions. I don't know why they haven't adapted his costume from Fraction and Aja's series at least.

+Roman Fox Except they do. And the fact that Deadpool had a lot of one liners in it wasn't the sole reason why it worked.

Roman Fox The new ones do look off. That's addressed in this video. So we are in fact in agreement. But if the costumes WERE done right (black doesn't automatically equal to realistic...wtf?!) it would work. Like that rogue cosplay you saw and don't tell me you didn't like that cuz that would be complete bs. We suspend our disbelief regardless, its superheroes ffs. Batman is a bad example because he's inherently a realistic hero. Not the same case with the Marvel heroes for example. And don't tell me that didn't work because the numbers alone would be against you.

+Roman Fox You get it, it's what I use to do when designing/redesigning superhero/villains, and what Young Justice went by "Tactical but Practical", they need not look like they're the character in colors and design, but also not look too ridiculous when in them, and look like you could actually fight crime in them, as in free movement/protection.

My problem with TDK Batman's costumes is that design wise, it's fine but a bit over designed, but the big problem was the logo, it gets lost in it, but the ideas behind it are great, able to move his neck, and better freedom movement. They employed some of it in BvS, but that has a few aesthetic problems, like the puffiness, but it's in the right direction

Oh...oh... I've never liked those, It worked for the early days, but after 80s, it looks sooooo dumb

"BUT ZACK SNYDER IS A VISIONARY." "I did this for this particular scene in WATCHMEN because it was cool" - *Zack Snyder*

+Brandon Dozier eat shit

keep your temper tantrums offline, you freak

Its not often that I see random mental breakdowns online.

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Because it tells us all we need to know about Singer.

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AkuTenshiiZero Singer is pretentious and up his own ass, and because of that, he looks down on comics because he sees them as only for kids. It’s ironic that he told the cast to not read the comics in order to not have flat characters, but that’s exactly what the movies ended up with.

The answer is pretty simple: Batman and Robin Things were really negative about superheroes when Batman and Robin came out, and people forgot how saturated the genre had been back then to make it worse. The Phantom Steel Judge Dredd Power Rangers (ok power rangers was cool to children but not to adults back then) Spawn Then of course, Spider-Man comes out. And everything changed - except for X-Men.

I do wanna see spideys chunky back spider more often tho! That spider is cute!

+Jason Punda You are spot on, because MARVEL understands its characters and show that to the audience so that they know the character beyond the costumes. DC, thanks to "visionary" director/leader Zack Snyder, is stuck in the outdated mentality that "superhero costumes are too silly for a movie". Zack Synder literally said that he thinks costumes are too silly for characters to have long dramatic conversations in, even though *THE DARK KNIGHT*, Daredevil Season 2, Captain America: Winter Soldier, and plenty of other examples contradict and disprove this. Some directors and execs just need to get over themselves for once and try to see the source material beyond the surface (not that Zack Snyder has that ability if you know what I mean).

they are slowly getting there though i mean they got batman costume right all they really need is make the colors more bright instead of the boring grey so heroes like supes can pop out more.

It's easy for us fanboys to sit here and claim that it's okay to get silly and not tone down the source material. But that's because we live in this day and age where superhero movies are the dominant entertainment facet and had time to take steps to this level of acceptance. But back when the original X-Men movies were coming out, you couldn't take the general audience for granted. You had to sell them the idea in an acceptable way. Nowadays nobody bothers with it and superheroes get their costumes without a rhyme or reason.

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The first? Uh, remember Batman back in 1989? Definitely worked.

+todesziege Batman and Robin killed the genre after that though, so I think they were going for something new?

burntvirtue yes but then after Superman 3 and 4, and Super girl flopped, I think they wanted to go in a new direction, and only recently started going for those type of costumes again. I think people where afraid to be associated with more of those bad movies than anything else. I guess I should say "...have only recently proven to work again." That's just my theory though.

Batman and Superman both had comic-accurate costumes in the 80's and 90's and no one complained (ok, Bat Nipple was a step too far!). And it's not like we actually have comic accurate costumes, we just have realistic-ish outfits that more closely adhere to the comics.

Because for some reason people think color is a bad thing and should be avoided. I wonder what they would say if all movies were in black and white.

even if they did look goofy, couldnt the movie universe be a setting that it made sense in.

Superman's outfit is actually pretty ok. The blue is dark but Superman has worn dark blue outfits before. The real problem with his outfit is the lack of the big red trunks. They were what livened the outfit up and made it... Perky. Wonder Woman's outfit is darker than usual but still not bad. The real issue is, as you pointed out, the filters that the film makers apply to the films. It turns a slightly muted color scheme into something very drab.

Even one of the darkest and grittiest film adaptations of a comic ever (Sin City) was primarily in black and white yet it knew when a splash of color is effective. I'm thinking of the Yellow Bastard specifically.

Danny Malzahn "bland colors" Do you even know what that word means?

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Agreed

+Mateo David Gutierrez Gonzalez And for those of us who are over the age of 12, what the hell is an "outro" and why is it "crispy af"? Curse you Internet slang! You will forever be my bane!

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A very valid point, and I would agree if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of the X-Men in the films don't act like their comic book counter parts. Each character lacks vital qualities that make their comic book versions so appealing. Take Storm for example, who is suppose to be the big sister, a matriarchal figure of the group who is proud of who she is with a very strong will that often surprises Cyclops and Professor X. However, in the film, she always seems to be on the verge of breaking, or ashamed of what she is.

+Minh P I think that is true to a degree. There are some characters that are in the spirit of the comics, such wolverine, professor X, magneto and deadpool (of course), but these are the most popular ones, while the others aren't given focus and different altogether. And I think that's the X-men movie franchise's biggest problem as a whole, it focuses far to much on the most popular characters which leaves some characters and plot underdeveloped in a good chunk of the film's minus a few exceptions.

Worrrrd. They come up as unimaginative film makers, hopefully they can pass the baton to a Director who can really hold up to these great series.

Singer sucks as a superhero type director. let's move on from him

I disagree, he does nothing spectacular for the series except for not messing it up TOO bad

Katniss' hunger games armor actually looks amazing on her and her movies!

+DarthChrisDK Exactly what I was thinking.

+MentalReach Don't worry; a lot of us tend to take certain elements of a particular medium for granted.

+MentalReach I always though that it was because of the tendency from the 90ths ...or older times that where all colourfull ..you noticed that now days everything looks dark and depressive ? since like the 2000 th ...everything is portraited as dark and misterious that fucking movement fucking sucks ..go shove the darkness in your ass .

+Clips Jack Yep. It was response to how Batman & Robin pretty much ruined the Superhero movie genre for quite a few years. Alot of directors were afraid to go colorful because they thought it'd remind people of that movie in particular, or it'd come off as cheesy. 1999/2000 is where the boom started again. You had movies like Blade which was really successful, featured a dark and mysterious protagonist, wearing a Black Leather trench coat,and black para military gear. Then you had the Matrix which was pretty much ruling the world at the time, so alot of movies tried to emulate that. Hence the first Xmen movie with their outfits. You wanna know something really funny and ironic. You know the Fantastic Four movie that came out last year, that bombed really hard? Take a look at the cinematography, and the outfits. Look at the promo posters. It looks like it's trying to be year 2000 comic book movie, in 2015. Seriously, go take a look, it'll blow your mind!

***** Well, Midnight's Edge in their Fatn4stic review did call the movie as seeming as though it was serviceable in 2005 rather than 2015. Anyway, why would they try to make and market a movie that looked and felt so outdated? Did they just think that people would see it out of nostalgia or that it was "dark and gritty"?

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BCz the truth, no matter how well edited this video is, is that if they had done spandex and color i would not have worked back then. It's only bcz of what ppl like Singer & Favreau and Snyder hv done to bring Superhero films to the fore front that we can now consider bright colors. They have made these films incredibly popular Let's not forget to give credit where credit is due

Superman in the 1978 made the equivalent of a billion dollars in today's money and that outfit is pitch perfect for the comics.

***** *In 1978*

Right? And it's not like you need to make it look exactly like the comics. The Marvel Movies, were able to keep the look and color schemes of the original suits while still making them work in the real world by adding just a little bit of detail.

@@lupewalkerx So? That proves it works.

the costumes should have color. X-men first class and Negasonic Teenage Warhead are examples of how to wear the yellow and black/blue without it being spandex, and looking good while doing it. the material of the costume can change, but the color schemes are a part of the characters, not just the costumes.

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Not t all. Just look up some fan designs and manips. Doing it right is key. THey are playing with 100 million dollar. Be creative.

It's all about creativity. Color is just as vital of to the design as the costume itself. This is off topic, but when NEON GENESIS EVANGELION gets adapted, I want those plug suits and giant robots/cyborgs (EVAs) to be in their colors, not just plastered in black like what FOX has been forcing upon X-Men for years (I get that they had to in the early 2000s, but come on, we can be much more creative than that now). The colors help characterize them: the redhead's red one shows off her temper and passion, while the blue-haired one's white suit emphasizes how empty she is in terms of being human. And also, the pilots need to be 14 years old as characters, not changed into high school students to pander to audiences' comfort zone because making them older, especially Shinji Ikari, would be missing the point of what Hideaki Anno was trying to accomplish with NGE; NGE is dark and involves child pilots with emotional issues, and 14 year-olds are much more vulnerable than high school students (especially if forced to pilot a giant robot).

I think what Deadpool (specifically negasonic teenage warhead) did right is that they experimented with hues and saturation. You see wolverine in the comics and the yellow in his suit is basically the same yellow that would be in a crayola box with no variation, same with the blue and the occasional red belt. But Warhead's costume used a yellow that was still light in tint, but very desaturated. It looked appropriate for both film and comics. Like Rogue; if they gave her a suit that had a yellow that was almost white, a dull, kinda olive green, both of those would mesh well with a brown over coat and the whole design would look good. I think the main problem is that the designers don't experiment much. When singer says "and we did try" all I hear is "we tried to apply the EXACT colors onto the designs we made".

Wolverine's had more that just the yellow costume, they could easily bring his original brown one to life.

I think there's wiggle room. First Class had yellow and blue suits, they weren't spandex, but the colors were there. there's a difference between comic accurate and comic faithful costume representation. comic accurate is page to screen identical costumes, which don't always work. comic faithful costumes, take the spirit of the original design, take what works and what is crucial for the characters, and bring it over, ditching what may not work in live action. Cap and Iron man are in their original color schemes, but they are wearing costumes with designs that differ from their comic counterparts. the material or the physical design are different. hell, Spiderman has almost always been in actual spandex in his films, brightly colored spandex, and it's worked. saying it won't work and just leaving it at that is a lame excuse to be lazy. especially with the X-men. they have some of the most unique costumes in all comics, and the movies should embrace them, and adapt faithful versions of the suits to the films. they don't need to be identical to the costumes on the page, but they have to capture the spirit of the characters actually.

+Mailus I think Prof X is the Nick Fury of X-men and Cyclops is the Captain 'murica of it!

Gábor Csernák interesting way to look at it.

+Gábor Csernák Or...Nick Fury is the Prof X and Cap is the Cyclops of the Avengers??? They didn't start this recent trend with the Avengers until waaaaay after the X-Men did it. Almost seems like they copied their blueprint of success? Plus they added Wolverine to the Avengers... BOOM!!! LOL!

Glad to see you on another X-Men video, sir. Once again you echo my sentiments exactly. Cyclops has never been properly used in the movies. Neither has Storm for that matter.

trealsteve You know how i am for this, i get a lot of heat for it, but i just have to say something! And yes, so far Cyclops and Storm have been treated like "look what they can do! flashy powers!!! whooooh!" and completely dodge any form of character development for them. Like we'd care to see these 2 actors playing Scott and Ororo recreate the fight over the leadership of the X-Men like they did a few times back in the day, the first of those fights, Storm won. These kids, the director and the studio behind it, don't have it in them. But Jennifer Lawrence aint playing either of them, so Singer and FOX dont give a damn :P. I truly hope the last wolverine movie is a closing chapter to the entire franchise up to date. I´m even willing to give fox the benefit of the doubt, if they at least do that, a full reset without carrying anything from the previous movies (apocalypse included), only Deadpool.

Avengers and the rest of the MCu say otherwise.

***** Because they're stupid.

diesel828 I prefer stupid over bland and uninteresting ones.

+Aram Sarkisian Deadpool showed that the yellow/blue suit works on film... It's the one Negasonic Teenage Warhead wears and it's great, and it's even a bit plain compared to some of the awesome suits the other X-Men wear...