It did, I would say there were tournaments up to like 2010 that were softer than this but harder than what it is today. I did TKD back in 98-99 and I do like TKD but they went softer than Karate did. Karate really didn't get super weak till 2011ish plus. In Japan, and Brazil they still do it hard. Doubt you'll find many places in America or Europe that goes that hard though, maybe the Netherlands/Dutch. Since they love Kickboxing. Mikes Gym, go hard will doing Kickboxing Training.

Kyokushin still goes hard I believe

@@OtakuKota in the Netherlands there are hardly any karate fights, and TKD is kata tournaments only. But yea, Kickboxing and MMA are hot here. If you ask people if the know Canelo or Mayweather, they won’t know what you are talking about. The only known names of boxers here are Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson.

Kyokushin always go hard

Kyokushin still like this tho.. If you search full contact karate you'll see pretty much same..

Back when the world was good, before I was born

Yeah the music just makes it all the more epic and drives home that 80s vibe

Im high af and just vibing

When men were men

Don't forget the epic mustaches

More retrowave actually.

This completely rocks

The 90's was the high point of western civilization.

I was scrolling through for a Cobra Kai reference. This video plays into that mantra of 1980's being a time of more manly prowress and people getting softer nowadays.

This is exactly what he meant. I wish there was a sensei like him in real life, I would become his student in a hearbeat

Old school Karate, before mcdojos ruined it for everyone.

@@dylanplumley280there are

I felt that line so much when he said it. We might be getting a bit older and slower, but we learned real Karate and not whatever the McDojo's teach these days.

Totally agree

This is kyokushin. They still have tournaments like this

Tho is an offshoot of Kyokushin. By this point Kyokushin Knockdown tournaments didn’t allow any kind of grabs in general - makes for an odd situation where two fighters literally lean on each other as they fight in close quarters. Not unlike two thugs fighting chest to chest to prove they’re all hard and everything but not quite the same either.

Make bruce lee scary

Snore fest is to you because it is a game of timing, speed and moment... Not everyone can get intelligent and tactical sports like WKF karate. Maybe if you read the rules and the criteria for a point, you'll get it... MAYBE. Ofc it has its downsides - light contact to the head, a lot of sneaking, the game is too dependent on the judges. But full contact to the head will make almost every fight finish early because of the criteria for acquiring a point.

In fact, these are enshin karatekas, enshin is a school derived from kiokushinkai, that studies extensively the evasive and counterattack footwork, like the ashihara school.

@@Lasombrosidad interesting

@@Lasombrosidad but even ROUNDER (footwork). Also Ashihara, from the schools I've visited, LOVES elbows. Enshin also tends to have less ukeru but that might just be all of kyokushin these days

Back when men were men and women were glad of it. Today...we are worried about peoples personal pronouns...we are raising a generation of sissies. God help us if there is another world war

This! It's unfortunate everyone is all in on the whole UFC thing, but most of those guys are not martial artists. Fighters? Sure, but their technique is nothing like what's on display here. Closest we get is Wonderboy.

Pat Smith won one of these tournaments also fought in the ufc and k1.

Pat participated in the tournament in 1989

you mean pat smith the child molester?

@@joshuabrant3487 Sabaki challenge.

Kickboxing is really not a single fighting style. You can be a Muay Thai fighter and participate in a kickboxing match.

Which is this music ❤

Regan took away mental health institutes and made many homeless people.

Enshin ryu is my jam.

@@christopherjones7023 there's an enshin place here where I live at the community center. If I didn't already spend my time doing MMA I'd consider doing it! Love my mma class and the family I got there, but definitely miss traditional karate after studying it for 12 years.

I do both ashihara and kyokushin karate, and basically while you don't have gloves on it would be very "violent" to have such tournament rules as permissible punches to the face. It would be almost real street fight :D But there are some categories in big tournaments they call them "full contact", allowing face punches but with gloves and helmet on as in Kudo.

@@PapaBeastyy yeah I hear ya. The one place in my town that used to teach it is gone now and has been for years sadly. I think I officially trained for something like 4 years in Enshin-ryu and since then trained at home off and on for like 20+. But man do I miss it. Godspeed and OSU!

@@PapaBeastyy Check out Kyokushin Shinken Shobu. It's Kyokushin with gloves and punches to the head. I don't like the Karate Combat ruleset. They don't allow lowkicks and hooks even thogh those are legitimate Karate techniques.

He is a Taekwondo black belt.

Tiger kick Sagat

@@Kzany42 no he is also karate lmao.Karate has also axe kick.

That’s some street fighter move you press red then yellow + ↩️

@Abinanta Maheswara Taekwondo has knee strikes kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jpx0aqd8yprLcmg.html

What kind of "martial arts" ?? There's real martial arts and there's McDojo specials full of pansies

@@NJ-fi8or dawg what

Cool

In today’s era very unlikely to get into fist fights on the streets. I realized I rather just learn the art.

Right on

I dunno if a flying knee to the face is needed. Crazy stuff.

@@justinhogue9861 Then don't do it. That's what I'm saying. You're singing yourself up for martial arts, so either properly learn how to put someone six feet under, or do something else. But dumbing it down is just disrecpectful to the tradition in my eyes.

Hate to disappoint you, but no tradition until really recent includes full-contact sparrings. Or any sparrings for that matter. “True” old martial arts were all about conditioning of your limbs and katas. All training. Putting somebody six feet under is more or of a boxing/MMA thing.

@@user-zj4zz4un5z Uh, wrong actually. But I don't feel like disproving people on the internet today. Just make some research yourself. Cleary, you're just uneducated and want to disagree with a fact, because it doesn't align with your believes. But whatever. Don't care.

You miss the point hard.

Osu!

Makes sense

Mas Oyama was forced to make this stupid rule, i do Kyokushin with true full contact, we've been champions in more than 15 open tournaments with true full contact rules in 20 years (the only rules were no groin hits, only MMA gloves were allowed and only 18+ purple to black belts were allowed)

@Spectre Owl He did want to used gloves and at the time MMA gloves were not available. Bare knuckles to face cause bleeding, skinning of the knuckles… which is messy, potential infectious etc. Thus, bare knuckles and no face shot it is.

@@user-sq3oy4gk8b Didn’t even know Kyokushin have purple belt. What IKO are you under?

I wonder what the winner got at the end just a trophy?

​@@chriswiggins4842 for real man, trophy's don't pay any bills... These guys can rotate their hips around their giant balls pretty effortlessly and I'm impressed.

warriors???? warriors are people who fight for a good cause to defend their ideals or country or family. Punching and wacking eachother in the head is pretty cool to watchbut no bravery there or anything noble or valuable.

@@JustMe-vz3wd I'm afraid you don't understand the heart of martial arts.

Your name is fkn hilariousn 😂😂

Heck yeah! The 1980s went hard with the awesomeness.

Karate minoru

like WMAC Masters

*I* was the one who did a sportsman

They don't what?

😂

He don't a English

@@MicBain81 because he is busy killing chi. ldren He don't have time to study..

Did they get exposed by the UFC in the 90s?

what u call badass is the normality of 80 . I bet some say too much rules or control. anyway nerfing promoted wimps and karens.

@@KeyserSoze23 A lot of styles have their strength and weakness, it all depends on the fighter, to me the most effective karate style Kyokushin.

@@KeyserSoze23 By that logic boxing also got exposed at ufc 1

@@KeyserSoze23 Lots of UFC fighters have Karate background, like GSP, and Anderson Silva

theres even an mma offshoot from this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g5txqaaUsd3FeoU.html

You haven't seen Premier full contact Karate? Search for it. They are starting to have full contact combat because of UFC. Lot of people are badmouthing karate these days simply they haven't seen the real karate. Imagine if you can kick your opponent's groin. Muay Thai becomes a joke. LOL

Yeah, the expeditious efficiency of striking is lost to these new overly grappling oriented arts and competitions.

@@barriolimbas Not really. Striking and kicking dominate grappling in almost all women divisions in UFC. Judo which is more about throwing than grappling dominates BJJ. Just look at Shevchenko. She is all striking, kicking and throwing. You haven't seen many Russians in UFC that why you believe grappling dominates the MMA sport. Watch some Russian MMA. They are not scared of BJJ at all.

@@trumplostlol3007Look at how these strike and at how they strike mostly at MMA. Bottom line is striking had lost emphasis in favor of grappling, though recently even in MMA one can see the better strikers getting an upper hand easier.

Do you think those guys are tougher than the little sissy boys in their 20's and 30's today?

@@joereidy5732 actually ur probably a sissy saying that xD

Pretty much. Everyone was rich and the music was awesome

@@kevinnorris6157 It heavily depends on the location, actually) My apologies for the long comment in response to one phrase, but we have such an interesting contrast of memories.... For example, the 90s in my Russia - the famous time of hunger, poverty, mass drug addiction and lawlessness. The bosses did not pay wages for six months, sneering at the workers that they would not find another job anyway. Instead of money, people dragged self-made furniture from factories to barter things for food with their neighbors. Dozens of narcomaniacs and alcoholics were lying everywhere right in snowdrifts and in front of house entrances, dying in back alleys and attacking passers-by in the streets. The police (then still "the militia") could simply kidnap a man at the behest of local crooks and beat him in the basement. Entire departments were blackmailed or bribed by criminals - or turned into armed gangs of their own. In the general chaos, police officers also went months without being paid. Guns were sometimes not taken away from those dismissed, orders contradicted each other and got lost along the way. And the oligarchs who were able to rise on the back of this horror - they could simply drive into a restaurant in a limousine and shoot the customers for fun. The next day, TV was already praising them as new parliamentarians, and their accusers disappeared. "Nineties" is a swear word here, politicians remind about them in contrast, to show that now we live quite well) And you remember that everyone was rich.... But there are small reasons for nostalgia. Free-thinking, no one controlled daring musicians and comedians... So music was awesome, too) And drunken orgies everywhere. People reveled in sex after the end of decades of mandatory ideology and strict morality. Everyone tried to emulate the famous American nightlife and European hedonism from movies and racy travel stories... Especially universities were a horny mess. But other than that - no, no more 90s, please)

for usa history only. For Europe the best time was the 19th century, of course at that time usa was still an ex convict frontier land without civilized manners except in major cities.

fuck ya...movies...shows...cartoons ..music .man we had it alllll

@@ericastier1646 you watch too many movies.

It wouldn't compete with karate combat and kyokushin tournaments.

@@IlyuuJrry34 U definitely smoking sum if you think this does not compete with what you're saying.

Nowadays not many would go through the vigorous training it demands.

@@IlyuuJrry34 karate combat does not have the look and feel and spirit of what you saw in this clip its waterd down

This is a derived style from kyokushin. Stop hard drugs!@@IlyuuJrry34

Yes I liked the Gameboy too

@@moonsdonut5188 modern hardware and software are obviously better than gameboys, but honestly the games were a lot more divers and creative than modernage crap. all the AAA titles look and play the same

They bring themselves down with heavy injuries and lasting repercussions. Are they more handicapped before or after the fight?

They're the best!!!! AROOUND!!!

@@panorama4526 😏

"You gotta block that"

Music Straplocked "Laser or bomb"

There is no “this era”, Kyokushin Karate was and still the same from its creation.

That's incredibly stupid.

Me too. I noticed it, i tried to use it. Now i have the guide

Thank you brother !!!

how would you compare this to muy-thai we have today? I do BJJ and i see some of the takedowns in this video and they look brutal as fuck. BJJ is legendary for its shitty takedowns, its basically just a little better than aikido. "first do this, then do that". If it takes more than 2 or 3 big movements its usually bullshit. There is a reason many just start on the ground, and its because the takedowns suck I hate it when my gym teaches these kind of low percentage stuff. They think they have to teach a new takedown or move every fucking week instead on focusing on single leg, double legs, back take or high rate submissions. That's it. Get good at a set of moves that are high percentage rather than 50 that you suck at.

It's cool, but I think Kudo is more entertaining and complete...

Kudo are independent now, they are no longer karate branch

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g5txqaaUsd3FeoU.html this was an mma karate style back in the 80s

it all seems fun and games until someone loses an eye

​@@ltmandarYou sound like an overprotective mum.

@@Tokmurok thats a first :)

@@ltmandar So what? Did those fighters need your sympathy? Don't think so high of yourself, they knew what they get them into and your opinion means nothing.

Hahahaha kyokushin guys are going to hate you for this! The style of the fights are all upto the rules of the game and the scoring..

​@@sardalamit hah, I'm training kyokushin myself and I've seen way too many fights that were looking exactly the same. And yeah, the most ''boring'' (in terms of repetition) fights I had a chance to see were coming from kyokushin players who were specifically trained for tournaments, so rules and everything definitely mean something.

@@morpyna7593 hats off to you for Kyokushin.

Каратеки сами убили карате, выдавая пояса всем подряд.

with no thigh kicks lol (they did exclusively to mess up with full contact karate practicioners, the "differentiate from kickboxing" is just an excuse)

Karate combat sucks its so corny

​@@nvanguy6868no.

Well, I did Karate for a couple of years then attended a kickboxing class and sparred with a guy who had been doing it a couple of months and had my ass handed to me. I discovered I knew nothing about timing, distance, recoil and quickly learnt karate blocks don't work. Never went back to Karate.

@@photronsardarkling2064 what style of Karate did you practice? Did your school have Kumite with points or full-contact Karate? When you say „karate-blocks don’t work“ which blocking techniques do you mean? If you’re referring to age-uke (jodan-uke) or Soto-uke (chudan-uke), then yes, they don’t work in a real fight, but they’re not really meant to. In a real gibt, nobody throws a single punch and then blocks singularly. The traditional ways of blocking are just there to learn the form. I regular spar with MMA-guys, and my modernised version of Karate somewhat holds up against these guys. But not Kata or Kihon, they are meant for training, not for actual free fighting.

@@a.rheser8181 Shotokan, very traditional and in truth, the sparring gave you a false sense of security but was of little value. Virtually no blocks in karate or any combat sport work because by the time you've seen the move it's already too late. You are far better off from behind good defensive positions where strikes to you land on strategically placed arms legs etc, you see this more in boxing and good kick boxers/Thai fighters but not so much in MMA because they are looking to take you to the canvas. Anyway, this is all academic for me because I'm now in my 60s and don't do combat sports anymore. 😁

@@photronsardarkling2064 im really confused by what you say because I see plenty of boxers and MMA fighters using blocks regularly, especially from high guard and long guard. do you mean the weird dramatic movie karate type blocks that dont cover up anything?

@@photronsardarkling2064 Lyoto Michida. main style-Shotokan. MMA world champion using a lot of Shotokan techniques. Don't forget- fighting also depends on ACTUAL Talent, not just style. Maybe you just weren't very good? Did you even earn Shodan Rank?

What do you love about them?

@@joereidy5732 They are actually fighting duh. Kinda a stupid question if u ask me.

@@lanky6429 But, I didn't ask you did I Sparky? NOPE!

@@joereidy5732 Did I ask you to make that comment? NOPE!!!! Not that hard to make that comment LMAO.

@@joereidy5732 Someone might as well point out you're low iq with that stupid question it's only fair 🤷

Ciertamente

Karate is dedication, so you were only going after medals and belts. You did right by stoping!

@@hichemgymart6615 It sounds like he quit because he wanted to practice a legitimate martial art

There's a cool clip by Jesse Einkamp about the difference between Motobu Choki and Gichin Funakoshi. Shotokan was a social thing, popular and good for young and old. Choki taught people to harm and tested his karate on passing strangers in the red-light district of town.